Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20
-
0:10 - 0:14I've come to talk to you about addiction,
the power of addiction, -
0:14 - 0:17but also addiction to power.
-
0:17 - 0:20As a medical doctor,
I work in Vancouver, Canada, -
0:20 - 0:23and I have worked with some very,
very addicted people. -
0:23 - 0:26People who use heroin,
they inject cocaine, -
0:26 - 0:32they drink alcohol, crystal meth
and every drug known to man. -
0:32 - 0:33And these people suffer.
-
0:33 - 0:38If the success of a doctor is to be
measured by how long his patients live, -
0:38 - 0:40then I am a failure
-
0:40 - 0:44because my patients die very young,
relatively speaking. -
0:44 - 0:48They die of HIV, they die of hepatitis C,
-
0:48 - 0:50they die of infections
of their heart valves, -
0:50 - 0:54they die of infections of their brains,
of their spines, -
0:54 - 0:56of their hearts,
of their bloodstream. -
0:56 - 1:02They die of suicide, of overdose,
of violence, of accidental deaths. -
1:02 - 1:06And if you look at them, you call to mind
-
1:06 - 1:10the words of the great Egyptian novelist,
Naguib Mahvouz, who wrote: -
1:10 - 1:15"Nothing records the effects of a sad life
as graphically as the human body." -
1:15 - 1:17Because these people lose everything.
-
1:17 - 1:20They lose their health,
they lose their beauty, -
1:20 - 1:24they lose their teeth,
they lose their wealth, -
1:24 - 1:26they lose human relationships
-
1:26 - 1:29and, in the end,
they often lose their lives. -
1:29 - 1:32And yet, nothing shakes them
from their addiction. -
1:32 - 1:35Nothing can force them
to give up their addiction. -
1:35 - 1:39The addictions are powerful
and the question is: why? -
1:39 - 1:41And as one of my patients said to me:
-
1:41 - 1:45"I'm not afraid of dying," he said,
"I'm more afraid of living." -
1:45 - 1:51And the question we have to ask is:
Why are people afraid of life? -
1:51 - 1:54And, if you want to understand addiction,
-
1:54 - 1:56you can't look at
what's wrong with the addiction; -
1:56 - 1:58you have to look at
what's right about it. -
1:58 - 2:01In other words, what's the person getting
from the addiction? -
2:01 - 2:04What are they getting
that otherwise they don't have? -
2:04 - 2:08What addicts get is relief from pain,
-
2:08 - 2:13what they get is a sense of peace,
a sense of control, -
2:13 - 2:16a sense of calmness,
very, very temporarily. -
2:16 - 2:20And the question is why are
these qualities missing from their lives, -
2:20 - 2:22what happened to them?
-
2:22 - 2:28If you look at drugs like heroin,
like morphine, like codeine, -
2:28 - 2:32if you look at cocaine,
if you look at alcohol, -
2:32 - 2:34these are all painkillers.
-
2:34 - 2:36In one way or another,
they all soothe pain. -
2:36 - 2:39And that's why
the real question in addiction -
2:39 - 2:43is not, "Why the addiction?,"
but, "Why the pain?" -
2:43 - 2:46Now, I just finished reading
the biography of Keith Richards, -
2:46 - 2:48the guitarist for the Rolling Stones
-
2:48 - 2:51and, as you probably know,
everybody is still surprised -
2:51 - 2:54that Richards is still alive today,
-
2:54 - 2:57because he was a heavy-duty
heroine addict for a long time. -
2:57 - 3:01And in his biography,
he writes that the addiction -
3:01 - 3:05was all about looking for oblivion,
looking for forgetting. -
3:05 - 3:08He said, "The contortions
that we go through -
3:08 - 3:12just not to be ourselves for a few hours."
-
3:12 - 3:14And I understand that very well myself,
-
3:14 - 3:17because I know that discomfort with myself,
-
3:17 - 3:20I know that discomfort
being in my own skin, -
3:20 - 3:24I know that desire
to escape from my own mind. -
3:24 - 3:30The great British psychiatrist
R.D. Laing said -
3:30 - 3:33that there are three things
that people are afraid of. -
3:33 - 3:38They are afraid of death,
of other people and of their own minds. -
3:38 - 3:42For a long time in my life, I wanted
to distract myself from my own mind, -
3:42 - 3:44because I was afraid to be alone with it.
-
3:44 - 3:46And how would I distract myself?
-
3:46 - 3:51Well, I've never used drugs,
but I've distracted myself through work, -
3:51 - 3:54and throwing myself into activities.
-
3:54 - 3:57And I've distracted myself
through shopping; -
3:57 - 4:02in my case, for classical compact music,
classical compact discs. -
4:02 - 4:04But I've been a real addict that way.
-
4:04 - 4:07One week, I spent 8,000 dollars
on classical compact discs, -
4:07 - 4:08not because I wanted to,
-
4:08 - 4:12but because I couldn't help
going back to the store. -
4:12 - 4:15And as a medical doctor,
I used to deliver a lot of babies. -
4:15 - 4:17And once I left a woman
in labor in hospital -
4:17 - 4:22to get a classical piece of music.
-
4:22 - 4:26I still could have made it back
to the hospital on time, -
4:26 - 4:28but once in the store you can't leave,
-
4:28 - 4:33because there are these evil
classical music dealers in the aisles: -
4:33 - 4:37"Hey buddy, have you listened to
the latest Mozart symphony cycle?" -
4:37 - 4:38"You haven't? Well..."
-
4:38 - 4:40So I missed the delivery of that baby,
-
4:40 - 4:43and I came home and I lied
to my wife about it. -
4:43 - 4:47Like any addict, I would lie about it
and I would ignore my own children -
4:47 - 4:50because of my obsession
with work and with music. -
4:50 - 4:53So I know what that
escape from the self is like. -
4:53 - 4:55My definition of addiction
-
4:55 - 5:01is any behavior that gives you
temporary relief, temporary pleasure, -
5:01 - 5:05but in the long term causes harm,
has some negative consequences -
5:05 - 5:09and you can't give it up,
despite those negative consequences. -
5:09 - 5:12And from that perspective,
you can understand -
5:12 - 5:16that there are many, many addictions.
-
5:16 - 5:18Yes, there is the addiction to drugs,
-
5:18 - 5:21but there is also
the addiction to consumerism, -
5:21 - 5:26there is the addiction to sex,
to the internet, -
5:26 - 5:29to shopping, to food.
-
5:30 - 5:33The Buddhists have this idea
of the hungry ghosts. -
5:33 - 5:37The hungry ghosts are creatures
with large empty bellies -
5:37 - 5:40and small, scrawny necks
and tiny little mouths, -
5:40 - 5:42so they can never get enough,
-
5:42 - 5:44they can never fill
this emptiness on the inside. -
5:44 - 5:47And we are all hungry ghosts
in this society, -
5:47 - 5:48we all have this emptiness,
-
5:48 - 5:52and so many of us are trying to fill
that emptiness from the outside -
5:52 - 5:57and the addiction is all about trying
to fill that emptiness from the outside. -
5:58 - 6:03Now, if you want to ask the question
of why people are in pain, -
6:03 - 6:06you can't look at their genetics.
-
6:06 - 6:08You have to look at their lives.
-
6:08 - 6:12And in the case of my patients,
my highly addicted patients, -
6:12 - 6:14it's very clear why they are in pain.
-
6:14 - 6:17Because they have been abused
all of their lives, -
6:17 - 6:19they began life as abused children.
-
6:19 - 6:23All of the women I have worked with
over a 12-year period, hundreds of them, -
6:23 - 6:25they had all been
sexually abused as children. -
6:25 - 6:27And the men had been traumatized as well.
-
6:27 - 6:30The men had been
sexually abused, neglected, -
6:30 - 6:33physically abused, abandoned
-
6:33 - 6:36and emotionally hurt over and over again.
-
6:36 - 6:38And that's why the pain.
-
6:38 - 6:42And there is something else here too:
the human brain. -
6:42 - 6:45The human brains itself,
as you've heard already, -
6:45 - 6:48develops an interaction
with the environment. -
6:48 - 6:50It's not just genetically programed.
-
6:50 - 6:53So the kind of environment
that a child has -
6:53 - 6:57will actually shape
the development of the brain. -
6:57 - 7:01Now, I can tell you about
two experiments with mice. -
7:01 - 7:04You take a little mouse
and you put food in its mouth -
7:04 - 7:07and he'll eat it and enjoy it
and swallow it, -
7:07 - 7:11but if you put the food down
a few inches away from his nose, -
7:11 - 7:13he will not move to eat it;
-
7:13 - 7:16he will actually starve to death
rather than eat. -
7:16 - 7:18Why?
-
7:18 - 7:22Because, genetically, they knocked out
the receptors for a chemical in the brain -
7:22 - 7:23called dopamine.
-
7:23 - 7:26Dopamine is the incentive
and motivation chemical. -
7:26 - 7:29Dopamine flows
whenever we are motivated, -
7:29 - 7:33excited, vital, vibrant,
curious about something, -
7:33 - 7:36when we are seeking food
or a sexual partner. -
7:36 - 7:38Without the dopamine,
we have no motivation. -
7:38 - 7:40Now what do you think the addict gets?
-
7:40 - 7:42When the addict shoots cocaine,
-
7:42 - 7:45when the addict shoots crystal meth
or almost any drug, -
7:45 - 7:47they get a hit of dopamine in their brain.
-
7:47 - 7:49And the question is,
-
7:49 - 7:52what happened to their brains
in the first place? -
7:52 - 7:56Because it's a myth
that drugs are addictive. -
7:56 - 7:58Drugs are not by themselves addictive,
-
7:58 - 8:01because most people who try most drugs
never become addicted. -
8:01 - 8:02So the question is,
-
8:02 - 8:05why are some people vulnerable
to being addicted? -
8:05 - 8:08Just like food is not addictive,
but to some people it is; -
8:08 - 8:11shopping is not addictive,
but to some people it is; -
8:11 - 8:14television is not addictive,
but to some people it is. -
8:14 - 8:17So the question is,
why this susceptibility? -
8:19 - 8:22There's another
little experiment with mice -
8:22 - 8:24where infant mice,
-
8:24 - 8:28if they are separated from their mothers
will not cry for their mothers. -
8:28 - 8:29Now what would that mean in the wild?
-
8:29 - 8:31It means that they would die,
-
8:31 - 8:34because only the mother protects
the child's life and nurtures the child. -
8:34 - 8:35And why?
-
8:35 - 8:38Because genetically
they knocked out the receptors, -
8:38 - 8:42the chemical binding sites in the brain,
for endorphins -
8:42 - 8:47and endorphins are indigenous
morphine-like substances; -
8:47 - 8:50endorphins are our own
natural painkillers. -
8:50 - 8:56What morphine or endorphins also do is
they make possible the experience of love; -
8:56 - 8:59they make possible the experience
of attachment to the parent -
8:59 - 9:02and the parents' attachment to the child.
-
9:02 - 9:05So these little mice without
endorphin receptors in their brains -
9:05 - 9:07will naturally not call for their mothers.
-
9:07 - 9:09In other words,
-
9:09 - 9:14the addiction to these drugs and
of course the heroine and the morphine, -
9:14 - 9:18what they do is they act
on the endorphin system; -
9:18 - 9:20that's why they work.
-
9:20 - 9:23And so, the question is,
-
9:23 - 9:27what happens to people that they need
these chemicals from the outside? -
9:27 - 9:30Well, what happens to them is,
when they are abused as children, -
9:30 - 9:33those circuits don't develop.
-
9:34 - 9:36When you don't have love
and connection in your life, -
9:36 - 9:38when you are very, very young,
-
9:38 - 9:42then those important brain circuits
just don't develop properly. -
9:42 - 9:46And under conditions of abuse,
things just don't develop properly -
9:46 - 9:52and their brains then
are susceptible when they do the drugs. -
9:52 - 9:54Now they feel normal,
now they feel pain relief, -
9:54 - 9:56now they feel love.
-
9:56 - 10:00And as one patient said to me:
"When I first did heroine," she said, -
10:00 - 10:05"it felt like a warm soft hug,
just like a mother hugging her baby." -
10:06 - 10:13Now, I've had that same emptiness,
not to the same degree as my patients. -
10:13 - 10:17What happened to me is that
I was born in Budapest, Hungary, -
10:17 - 10:19in 1944, to Jewish parents,
-
10:19 - 10:22just before the Germans occupied Hungary.
-
10:22 - 10:26And you know what happened
to the Jewish people in Eastern Europe. -
10:26 - 10:30And I was 2 months old
when the German army moved into Budapest. -
10:30 - 10:34And the day after they did,
my mother phoned the pediatrician -
10:34 - 10:35and she said,
-
10:35 - 10:39"Would you please come and see Gabor
because he is crying all the time." -
10:39 - 10:42And the pediatrician said,
"Of course, I will come to see him, -
10:42 - 10:46but I should tell you,
all of my Jewish babies are crying." -
10:46 - 10:47Now why?
-
10:47 - 10:51What do babies know about Hitler
or genocide or war? -
10:51 - 10:52Nothing.
-
10:52 - 10:56What we were picking up on
is the stresses and the terrors -
10:56 - 10:58and the depression of our mothers
-
10:58 - 11:03and that actually shapes
the child's brain. -
11:03 - 11:07And of course,
what happens then -
11:07 - 11:10is I get the message
that the world doesn't want me, -
11:10 - 11:13because if my mother is
not happy around me, -
11:13 - 11:15she must not want me.
-
11:15 - 11:18Why do I become a workaholic later?
-
11:18 - 11:21Because if they don't want me,
at least they are going to need me. -
11:21 - 11:25And I'll be an important doctor
and they are going to need me -
11:25 - 11:26and that way I can make up
-
11:26 - 11:29for the feeling of not being
wanted in the first place. -
11:29 - 11:31And what does that mean?
-
11:31 - 11:33It means that I am working all the time,
-
11:33 - 11:38and when I am not working,
I'm consumed by buying music. -
11:38 - 11:40What message do my kids get?
-
11:40 - 11:43My kids get the same message
that they are not wanted. -
11:43 - 11:47And this is how we pass it on,
we pass on the trauma, -
11:47 - 11:49and we pass on the suffering,
unconsciously, -
11:49 - 11:53from one generation to the next.
-
11:53 - 11:56So obviously, there are many,
many ways to fill this emptiness, -
11:56 - 11:59and for each person, there is a different
way of filling the emptiness, -
11:59 - 12:01but the emptiness always goes back
-
12:01 - 12:08to what we didn't get
when we were very small. -
12:08 - 12:11And then we look at the drug addict
and we say to the drug addict, -
12:11 - 12:14"How can you possibly do this to yourself?
-
12:14 - 12:17How can you possibly inject
this terrible substance into your body -
12:17 - 12:19that may kill you?"
-
12:19 - 12:21But look at what
we are doing to the earth. -
12:21 - 12:24We are injecting all kinds of things
into the atmosphere -
12:24 - 12:28and the oceans and the environment
-
12:28 - 12:30that is killing us,
that's killing the earth. -
12:30 - 12:33Now which addiction is greater?
-
12:33 - 12:36The addiction to oil? Or to consumerism?
-
12:36 - 12:38Which causes the greater harm?
-
12:38 - 12:40And yet we judge the drug addict
-
12:40 - 12:44because we actually see
that they are just like us -
12:44 - 12:45and we don't like that.
-
12:45 - 12:49So we say, "You are different from us,
you are worse than we are." -
12:49 - 12:54(Applause)
-
12:56 - 13:01On the plane to São Paulo
and Rio de Janeiro, -
13:01 - 13:04I was reading the New York Times,
on June 9th, -
13:04 - 13:06and there was an article about Brazil
-
13:06 - 13:10and the article was about a man
called Nísio Gomes, -
13:10 - 13:14a leader of the Guarani people
in the Amazon, -
13:14 - 13:19who was killed last November
and you probably heard about him. -
13:19 - 13:22And he was killed because
he was protecting his people -
13:22 - 13:25from the big farmers and the companies
-
13:25 - 13:29that are taking over the rainforest
and destroying the rainforest -
13:29 - 13:32and that are destroying the habitat of
the native Indian people here in Brazil. -
13:32 - 13:36And I can tell you that coming from Canada
the same thing has happened over there. -
13:36 - 13:40And many of my patients are actually
First Nation's Indian people, -
13:40 - 13:44native Indian people in Canada,
and they are heavily addicted. -
13:44 - 13:47They make up a small percentage
of the population, -
13:47 - 13:50but they make up a large percentage
of the people in jail, -
13:50 - 13:52the people who are addicted,
-
13:52 - 13:54the people who are mentally ill,
-
13:54 - 13:56the people who commit suicide. Why?
-
13:56 - 13:58Because their lands were
taken away from them, -
13:58 - 14:03and because they were killed and abused
for generations and generations. -
14:03 - 14:04But the question I ask is,
-
14:04 - 14:07if you can understand the suffering
of these native people -
14:07 - 14:12and how that suffering makes them
seek relief from pain in their addictions, -
14:12 - 14:14what about the people
who are perpetrating it? -
14:14 - 14:16What are they addicted to?
-
14:16 - 14:18Well, they are addicted to power,
-
14:18 - 14:19they are addicted to wealth,
-
14:19 - 14:21they are addicted to acquisition.
-
14:21 - 14:23They want to make themselves bigger.
-
14:23 - 14:26And when I was trying to understand
the addiction to power, -
14:26 - 14:29I looked at some of the most
powerful people in history. -
14:29 - 14:34I looked at Alexander the Great,
I looked at Napoleon, I looked at Hitler, -
14:34 - 14:36I looked at Genghis Kahn,
I looked at Stalin. -
14:36 - 14:39It's very interesting
when you look at these people. -
14:39 - 14:42First of all, why did they need
power so much? -
14:42 - 14:44Interestingly enough,
-
14:44 - 14:46physically they were all
very small people, -
14:46 - 14:52my size or smaller; actually smaller.
-
14:52 - 14:56They came from outsiders,
-
14:56 - 14:59they were not part
of the major population. -
14:59 - 15:04Stalin was a Georgian, not a Russian;
Napoleon was a Corsican, not a Frenchman; -
15:06 - 15:13Alexander was a Macedonian, not a Greek;
and Hitler was an Austrian, not a German. -
15:14 - 15:16So a real sense of insecurity
and inferiority. -
15:16 - 15:20And they needed power
to feel okay in themselves, -
15:20 - 15:21to make themselves bigger,
-
15:21 - 15:25and in order to get that power,
they were quite willing to fight wars -
15:25 - 15:28and to kill a lot of people,
just to maintain that power. -
15:29 - 15:32I'm not saying that only small people
can be power-hungry -
15:32 - 15:35but it is interesting to look at
these examples, -
15:35 - 15:39because power, the addiction to power,
is always about the emptiness -
15:39 - 15:41that you try and fill from the outside.
-
15:41 - 15:45And Napoleon, even in exile
on the island of St. Helena, -
15:45 - 15:50after he lost his power,
he said, "I love power, I love power." -
15:50 - 15:53He couldn't think of himself
without power. -
15:53 - 15:57He had no sense of himself
without being powerful externally. -
15:57 - 16:01And that's very interesting
when you compare it to people -
16:01 - 16:03like the Buddha or Jesus,
-
16:03 - 16:06because if you look at the story
about Jesus and Buddha, -
16:06 - 16:09both of them were tempted by the devil
-
16:09 - 16:14and one of the things that the devil
offers them is power, earthly power, -
16:14 - 16:17and they both say no.
-
16:17 - 16:18Now why do they say no?
-
16:18 - 16:24They say no because they have
the power inside of themselves, -
16:24 - 16:26they don't need it from the outside.
-
16:26 - 16:29And they both say no
because they don't want to control people, -
16:29 - 16:30they want to teach people.
-
16:30 - 16:36They want to teach people by example
and by soft words, -
16:36 - 16:41and by wisdom, not through force;
so they refuse power. -
16:41 - 16:44And it's very interesting
what they say about that. -
16:46 - 16:53Jesus says that the power and the reality
is not outside of yourself but inside. -
16:53 - 16:57He says the Kingdom of God is within.
-
16:57 - 17:01And the Buddha, before he dies
and his monks are mourning and crying -
17:01 - 17:03and they are all upset,
-
17:03 - 17:06he says, "Don't mourn me,"
he says, "And don't worship me. -
17:06 - 17:13Find a lamp inside yourself, be a lamp
unto yourselves, find a light within." -
17:13 - 17:17And so as we look this difficult world
with the loss of the environment -
17:17 - 17:22and global warming
and the depredations in the oceans, -
17:22 - 17:25let's not look to the people in power
to change things, -
17:25 - 17:29because the people in power,
I'm afraid to say, are very often -
17:29 - 17:31some of the emptiest people in the world
-
17:31 - 17:33and they are not going to
change things for us. -
17:33 - 17:36We have to find that light
within ourselves, -
17:36 - 17:38we have to find the light
within communities -
17:38 - 17:42and within our own wisdom
and our own creativity. -
17:42 - 17:45We can't wait for the people in power
to make things better for us, -
17:45 - 17:49because they are never going to,
not unless we make them. -
17:53 - 17:58They say that human nature is competitive,
that human nature is aggressive, -
17:58 - 18:00that human nature is selfish.
-
18:00 - 18:04It's just the opposite;
human nature is actually cooperative, -
18:04 - 18:09human nature is actually generous,
human nature is actually community-minded. -
18:09 - 18:14What we see here at this conference
with people sharing information, -
18:14 - 18:17people receiving information,
people committed to the better world, -
18:17 - 18:19that's actually human nature.
-
18:19 - 18:21And what I am saying to you is,
-
18:21 - 18:24if you find that light within,
if you find your own nature, -
18:24 - 18:26then we will be kinder to ourselves
-
18:26 - 18:28and we will also be kinder to nature.
-
18:28 - 18:29Thank you.
-
18:29 - 18:32(Cheers) (Applause)
- Title:
- Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20
- Description:
-
This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
If the success of a doctor is measured by the longevity of his patients, the post-Nazi genocide Hungarian-born, Canadian psychiatrist Gabor Maté is a failure. As a specialist in terminal illnesses, chemical dependents, and HIV positive patients, Dr. Maté is a renowned author of books and columnist known for his knowledge about attention deficit disorder, stress, chronic illness and parental relations. His theme at TEDxRio+20 was addiction -- from drugs to power. From the lack of love to the desire to escape oneself, from susceptibility of the being to interior power, nothing escapes. And he risks a generic and generous prescription: "Find your nature and be nice to yourself."
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 18:47
Emi Kamiya commented on English subtitles for Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20 | ||
Leonardo Silva approved English subtitles for Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20 | ||
Leonardo Silva edited English subtitles for Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20 | ||
Leonardo Silva edited English subtitles for Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20 | ||
Leonardo Silva edited English subtitles for Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20 | ||
Peter Ščigulinský edited English subtitles for Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20 | ||
Peter Ščigulinský edited English subtitles for Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20 | ||
Peter Ščigulinský accepted English subtitles for Power of addiction and addiction to power | Gabor Maté | TEDxRio+20 |
Emi Kamiya
Typos
1:06 - 1:10
the words of the great Egyptian novelist,
Naguib Mahvouz, who wrote:
--> Mahfouz
6:42 - 6:45
The human brains itself,
as you've heard already,
--> brain (sing.)
14:34 - 14:36
I looked at Genghis Kahn,
I looked at Stalin.
--> Khan
Thanks!