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The Greatest Talk of Jacque Fresco - The Venus Project

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    I want to thank all of you
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    for coming
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    and doing the work you're doing to inform other people.
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    I'm gonna say a lot of things that may bother some of you.
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    But please be patient.
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    I'm not your enemy.
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    I'm gonna tell you things that...
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    about you society you may or may not know.
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    I want to say first
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    that the language we speak
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    was designed hundreds of years ago.
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    And it's almost impossible
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    to talk to one another.
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    Although we think we talk to one another,
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    we really repeat in language
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    that's highly insufficient.
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    Whatever you say to other people, it goes in their heads
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    and comes out to fit their society.
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    You don't always communicate with people.
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    So the problem is -
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    can we develop a language
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    that has
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    consistent meaning?
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    Well, if you still don't understand me -
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    sometimes I might say "Have a nice weekend."
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    Why don't we say "Have a nice life"?
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    Why just a weekend?
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    Our language, again, is old.
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    Is it possible to devise a language
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    that's not subject to interpretation?
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    When you read the bible,
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    (if you do)
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    it says "Jesus meant this" (somebody says that).
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    "Oh, no. He meant that."
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    The third people says "You're both wrong. This is what he really meant."
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    So you have the Lutheran,
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    the seven days Adventist, the Catholic,
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    because it's subject
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    to interpretation.
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    The language of chemistry, mathematics,
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    science,
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    engineering
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    is not subject to interpretation.
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    When a chemist writes a formula,
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    no matter what country it goes to, they interpret it the same way.
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    I'm trying to tell you, it's possible
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    to develop a language
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    that's not subject to interpretation.
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    So, we really talk at each other,
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    rather than to one another.
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    That's a major problem, that's why lawyers exist.
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    They can take language,
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    mold it, reshape it.
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    But you can't do that.
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    Those of you who do want to know how to communicate,
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    there are books
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    such as "Science and sanity"
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    by Alfred Korzybski,
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    "Language in Thought and Action" by [Samuel Ichiye] Hayakawa,
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    "The Tyranny of Words"
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    by Stuart Chase.
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    You don't even know this, but the words you use
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    have no communication value.
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    Take junior grade school for example.
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    When a teacher says to a child "That's wrong"
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    that doesn't tell the child anything. Think about that.
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    "That's wrong". What does that tell you?
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    Nothing in particular.
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    And the teacher says "That's not what I told you". That doesn't tell the child anything.
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    So the most of our language is empty.
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    And there's another bullshit word. And that's "love".
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    Don't get mad at me. Hear me out.
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    Now, most of us don't like everything we've done in life.
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    I'm sure we don't.
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    We've made mistakes. We've made false judgements.
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    So, sometimes you like yourself.
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    Sometimes a little bit. Sometimes not at all.
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    So, love is a fluctuating thing.
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    Even if you marry somebody and love them,
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    you'll find sometimes you love them very much,
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    sometimes little less,
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    sometimes "How did I ever get in this situation?"
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    So, love is a fluctuating thing, not a fixed thing.
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    That's why we don't understand what's happening.
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    Sometimes a guy is conditioned by society
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    to like a girl of a particular configuration.
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    But he marries a girl of a different configuration. And he is always looking
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    at different configurations.
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    And you think "What the hell is the matter with this guy?"
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    Nothing is the matter with him. He was brought up that way.
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    There are not good or bad people.
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    There are no creative people or lazy people. All that is bullshit put out
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    by your country.
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    Now I gonna tell you a little bit about it.
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    If you were raised by the headhunters of the Amazon.
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    You'd be a headhunter.
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    And If I've said to you "Doesn't it bother you to have five shrunken heads?"
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    He'll say "Yes, my brother have twenty."
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    So... Is he nuts? No. That's normal to his culture.
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    If you were brought up in ancient Rome, assuming you were Christian.
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    The Romes believed in many different gods.
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    And you come up with one god, you must be nuts.
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    So they put you in an arena with a lot of hungry lions.
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    And they starve the lions for week to put on the good show.
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    Then they take the clothes off the Christians.
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    So the lions can tear on them easy.
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    The whole family would come Saturday and Sunday
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    to see Christians fed to lions.
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    .
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    And the kids would say "Daddy, can I come next week to see Christians fed to lions."
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    Dad says - "If you behave yourself."
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    Now... Are this people nuts? No. That's normal to that culture.
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    Just as we go to prize fights
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    and watch men punch the heads of other men.
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    All the things we do are stupid and far beyond civilization.
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    We are not civilized yet.
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    That's why you have prisons,
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    police, war
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    and all the problems you have. Unnecessary human suffering.
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    Because people don't understand yet.
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    There are schools to not educate people. They teach you to become a cog in a wheel
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    as Roxanne pointed out.
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    They teach them to become a carpenter,
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    an engineer, an architect.
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    All these are false fields.
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    They have to teach you
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    how to become a generalist.
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    How to understand the history of civilization
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    which is lacking in all our universities.
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    They will be shut down in the future
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    and people will be brought up to become generalists.
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    So they understand human behavior, they understand what makes a person,
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    what gives a person drive.
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    So all of us are brought up to believe there are different kinds of people,
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    which is a lie.
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    That the Japanese mind can't grasp technology.
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    That the Chinese can't understand certain things. And always get a dumb Polak
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    to clean out your cellar.
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    And a damn Italians are waps. They brought
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    the mafia to this country.
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    And all that hatred comes from
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    cheap labor. As rule when the first Irish came to this country.
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    They worked for the one half the amount Americans worked for.
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    "So let's get rid
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    of those damn Irishmen.
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    They are no good." They took their jobs away. That's why we've got mad at them.
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    And during the depression
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    if a factory put up a sign "Help wanted"
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    everybody lined up to get a job, hundreds of people.
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    And normal Americans - normal means fucked up -
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    normal Americans
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    would say "Let's get the god damn waps out of the line". "Let's get the god damn Filipinos out of the line".
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    Because they threaten our jobs.
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    That's why they do that. Racial hatred is tolerated
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    and brought about. But I want to tell you this -
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    If a normal American baby or Greek baby, or French baby
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    were brought up in Nazi Germany.
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    And all they see is "Heil Hilter! Deutschland über alles!" (Germany above all)
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    They become Nazis.
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    If you brought up in America - you become "Yes, sir. I'm an American and I proud of it."
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    Most Americans don't know
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    that George Washington, the first president,
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    had three hundred slaves.
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    Today he'd be arrested
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    as a nut.
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    And the most of the people... Harry Truman,
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    president Truman
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    was a hat salesman,
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    real jackass
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    in presidential position.
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    Now, who are these people in government? What is a politician?
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    I don't want you to take my word. I want you to walk over
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    to any politician you know
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    Or do not know. And ask them
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    "How can you grow food faster without exhausting the soil? and feed the hungry?"
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    "- I don't know."
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    "How can you make automobiles that don't hit in each other?"
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    "- I don't know."
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    "How can you make highways safer?" - "I don't know."
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    They don't know anything. Don't take my word for it. Ask them.
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    They really don't know a damn thing.
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    And I mean politicians all over the world.
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    All countries,
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    all are basically corrupt.
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    If you don't understand what I'm saying
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    Where do you think America got America from?
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    You think the Indians - "Come on over and enjoy yourself, take all the land you want."
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    No, we kill thousands of Indians.
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    We starved 50 million buffalo
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    to make it tough for the Indians.
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    And the Indians have fought back.
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    They really tried to take
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    some land back.
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    But the government decided that they want to get rid of those aggressive Indians.
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    That wouldn't
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    conform to what we wanted.
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    So they offered 10 bucks for every Indian you killed.
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    And the guy walked over and said - "I just killed 10 Indians."
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    The government says - "How do we know that?
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    Bring back a piece of the Indian."
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    So they started scalping.
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    Americans, not the Indians.
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    And we brought back 10 scalps to collect 10 bucks
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    for every Indian you killed.
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    Americans are no good, French are good, The Greeks are no good.
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    All nations are corrupt.
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    They say "The sun never sets on England."
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    Where do you think England got all that land from?
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    They took it
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    by killing thousands of people.
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    So, If you don't like the guy next door.
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    If you shoot him
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    and missed by one inch,
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    you're not a murderer.
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    But if your aim is a little better, you're a murderer.
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    If you hit the guy.
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    So, today they have guns,
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    machine guns with the laser beams,
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    When it's on you and you pull the trigger, bullets come out.
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    If it's a little off, no bullets come out.
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    The guns are getting smarter.
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    Soldiers are getting dumber.
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    And they are killing machines.
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    We would train soldiers
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    to be problem solvers, send them back to school.
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    How do you bridge
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    the difference between nations. How do you improve agriculture.
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    How do we fight hurricanes, heart disease. This is the real problem. Not killing. When you
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    kill people and bomb cities... Consider the abortionist.
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    Some people say "Jeez, it's terrible. They commit abortion, they take a life."
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    If these people were consistently educated,
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    when you have war you kill pregnant women,
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    children, everybody. Why don't they fight against war? Why just abortionist?
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    There is something dreadfully wrong with all our schools.
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    They have better equipment than ever (the universities).
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    The best.
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    And the war is getting worse.
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    The atom bombs considered nothing today
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    compared to the cobalt bomb.
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    They would kill many more people.
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    Each submarine (I'm talking about America, it's the only country I have information on)
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    has 300 hundred submarines.
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    According to the navy
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    each one
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    has more destructive power
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    than all the wars in history.
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    What can you accomplish with that?
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    Then they tell you other things.
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    They tell you things like be good, be kind.
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    How can you be kind or good? Suppose I have a factory
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    and I turn out things
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    ten times faster than your factory.
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    Same product.
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    If I share that with you, I'll lose the competitive edge.
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    If I have patents,
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    I deprive people all over the world from making things that make life better.
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    So how can you be decent?
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    So you go to church on Sunday and what do you do there?
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    You look at the clothes of other people.
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    Everybody dressed
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    to outpace the other person.
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    And so when they go to church, what do they do mostly - bother god.
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    "We need a new car. My wife needs a car. I'd like a home in the country.
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    And I like this, I like that."
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    And they say that god knows everything.
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    That's what they teach you in church.
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    God knows everything. He made every planet, every galaxy.
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    So when I went to church, I insulted
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    the minister by saying: "If god knows everything,
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    why did Jesus insult God?"
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    He said - "I don't remember Jesus insulting God".
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    Well, they crucified Jesus.
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    Just before they crucified him,
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    he looked up and said "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do."
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    And God said "Jeez, I didn't know that. Thanks."
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    You know, if he knows everything what is Jesus talking to him about?
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    What are you talking to him about? (if he knows everything)
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    "Aunt Manny is sick and she is suffering. Please ease the pain."
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    "Well, I didn't know about that Aunt Manny. O.k."
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    So, you see,
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    man makes God in his own image - Some jerk that get angry and says
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    "Noah, build yourself an ark.
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    I'm gonna
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    flood the whole area. I don't like the products I turned out."
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    He want to kill everybody.
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    So, Noah
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    is to build an ark.
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    If he took two kinds of every animal,
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    the ark would be about a mile long.
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    Who cleans the shit out of that boat?
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    The story is so ridiculous,
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    it not even sensible.
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    So when I... I read the bible instead of the comic strips.
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    Because there is nothing in it that makes sense.
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    God sits on the throne.
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    He makes a men and a women, puts them in a beautiful garden.
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    And then he has a snake,
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    that walks upright.
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    According to the bible, not me.
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    And the snake says "Eat of the fruit of knowledge"
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    And Eve did that.
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    And he kicked them both out and slammed at the gates shut.
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    All loving, all kind God.
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    The contradictions are so thick in the bible.
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    It's amazing that everybody doesn't see it.
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    Now, in the bible (if you're religious) it says "Thou shalt not kill".
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    It doesn't say "You can kill Wednesdays and Thursdays".
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    It says "Thou shalt not kill".
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    Than it says
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    "Love thy enemy". Meaning if a man strikes you, turn the other cheek.
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    And what happens in times of war?
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    What's the matter with these Christians?
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    Larry Kind once said
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    "What do you think of Christianity, Fresco?"
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    "This is a great idea, when are they putting it into practice?"
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    Frankly, I've never met a Christian.
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    That forgives
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    people.
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    That loves the enemy.
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    That turns the other cheek.
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    That has no locks on the door,
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    When a hungry person knocks, they bring them in and say
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    "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."
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    I never met a Christian.
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    Never found one everywhere I've traveled.
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    So, the point is,
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    all of us need security.
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    All people, all over the world need clean air,
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    clean water,
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    arable land
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    and a relevant education.
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    What is relevant education means?
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    to study agriculture,
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    nature, how we relate to nature,
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    how we relate to one another.
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    To give us the tools
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    to live in accordance with what we want.
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    Not what they want you to be.
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    They want you to be patriotic. That meant they want to control you.
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    Patriotism
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    (Einstein said) is a disease.
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    But he couldn't say that publicly.
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    When he came to this country,
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    he was a socialist (to America).
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    And they said "Don't talk socialism. They will ship your ass
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    back to Germany."
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    So he wouldn't talk about it.
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    Einstein... I once asked him whether he felt that
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    uh... social designed with the
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    social design would be prevalent for all people, useful.
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    He said, he was a socialist. He really didn't know the anatomy
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    of social design.
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    He said "You are interested in mathematics?"
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    I said "Yes, as a tool".
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    But he didn't really know the process of social design.
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    I asked communists "How will you prevent
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    corruption in the future?"
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    They said "Well, when that time comes," (This is at the Great Depression)
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    "That time comes, we'll work on it."
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    I asked them "How will house millions of people?"
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    "Well, ah, when that time comes, we'll work on that."
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    I said "Let's start a technical branch
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    of the communist party or the socialist party
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    or any party
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    to make live
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    secure for all people. So no one can become corrupt."
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    They said "You are deviating from the teachings of Marx. You'll have to leave."
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    I wasn't trying to deviate or disrupt communists.
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    I was trying to give them methods of solving problems.
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    So I joined (at that time, during the Depression),
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    I joined Technocracy.
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    Because they talked about using science in government.
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    But there were no black in the organisation.
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    And I said "How come there's no blacks?"
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    They said "Well, let them start their own section."
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    I said "What about orientals?"
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    They said "The oriental mind can't grasp technology."
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    Of course, as you know today,
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    they lead the world in robotics.
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    So, all our thoughts about different kinds of people are lies.
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    They are not real.
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    We have to understand that all people tend to love their kids.
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    All people want their kids to be better educated.
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    All people want to know about nutrition.
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    So, let's say the drug companies were really sincere.
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    And they found out that celery juice
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    lowers blood pressure.
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    You can't make any money selling celery juice, 'cause...
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    But you can get two bucks for every pill you sell.
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    So, there was a book written many years ago.
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    I also like to know how many people ever heard of it.
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    "A Hundred
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    Million Guinea Pigs."
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    How many of you have heard of that book?
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    It should have been in every library. It's not.
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    What did "A Hundred Million Guinea Pigs" talk about?
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    The lies put out by the drug companies.
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    And the people of America (it was a bestseller by the way in America,
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    years ago)
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    And they demanded that the government put in a Food and Drug
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    Administration
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    to check the claims
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    of the drug companies.
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    And they did. They got that in.
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    Now it's run by people of the drug companies.
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    Everything becomes corrupt.
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    Everything we touch.
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    So Oppenheimer
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    went to visit Harry Truman (president Harry Truman).
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    and said "Now that we have an atom bomb.
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    Why don't you demonstrate it about 30 miles out at sea?
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    So that Japanese can see it.
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    So you won't have to drop it over Japan.
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    Give them a change to surrender."
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    Harry Truman said "Get out of my office.
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    I never want to see you guys again."
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    And they dropped the atom bomb on Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
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    Because he was a jackass.
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    Most presidents are very stupid people.
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    They know nothing about ecology,
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    evolution of the society.
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    (Well, I have ever...) No politician has ever increased the agricultural yield,
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    made automobiles safer, airplanes safer. What the hell they're doing there?
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    How did they get the job?
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    There is something dreadfully wrong with education.
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    The people in Washington...
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    I can only talk about them. I believe all countries are similar.
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    The people in Washington should know more about human behavior,
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    the latest technologies.
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    They tell you - "If you want freedom, write your congressman."
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    Why do you have to write them?
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    He should know
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    all those things.
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    When you fly on an airplane, you don't have to write the pilot.
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    Say, you've been flying at an angle for a half an hour. Straighten up.
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    They know their business.
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    The same for government. They should know everything about modern technology,
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    human behavior.
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    When you put a man in prison.
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    Say he stole a watch that costs
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    150 dollars.
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    And that's the fourth time he committed that crime.
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    So you put him in jail
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    for seven years.
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    That's a hell of a lot of watches you can give him.
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    Figure the costs of that.
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    Feeding him, medical care for seven years.
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    Let him have the watch.
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    It's much cheaper to give people the thing they need
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    than to kill them.
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    It's much cheaper. Think of man in jail for life.
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    Do you know how much that costs?
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    They worried about the fact that he tried to rob the jewelry store
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    of may be three or four hundred dollars.
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    It's always cheaper to feed people.
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    And when they go to jail, I can assure you,
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    they don't come out any better.
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    They call them correctional institute. They don't even know
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    how to correct people.
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    They are not people trained in that area.
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    Then you have a bunch of people they call psychologist.
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    I hope there is none here today.
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    And psychiatrist
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    that adjust you to this
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    fucked up culture.
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    How can you adjust people to this culture
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    if you're sane?
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    Do you understand what I mean?
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    So even psychologist
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    and psychiatrist
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    are part of the culture.
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    So is religion.
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    "Jesus needs money". Jesus doesn't need anything.
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    God doesn't need anything.
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    They also try to tell you that God so loved with the world,
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    that he gave his only begotten son.
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    According to the bible, it says
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    they crucified Christ,
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    he arose
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    and ascended into heaven.
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    Where is the sacrifice?
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    Think about it.
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    So, we don't think about what we've read. We just read
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    and we just yack.
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    And so, when we asked to vote for somebody, we vote for somebody
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    that fits the patters we've been brought up to accept.
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    Now during the question period please
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    don't be polite.
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    If I say anything you don't understand, say "I don't get it."
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    And If I fail to answer your question, say "You didn't answer my question."
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    Don't be polite.
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    So at the question period
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    we will examine some of the idea
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    and I want you to ask all kinds of naughty questions.
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    Don't accept the thing I say.
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    I don't want you to follow me.
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    I want you to listen to what I say. If it makes sense, do it.
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    If you like The Venus Project, when you leave here,
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    if you don't talk to other people about it,
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    nothing will happen.
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    So, if you like what we stand for, look, it's not perfect.
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    It's just a lot better than the society you live in.
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    And it will continue to get better.
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    There are no final frontiers. People think
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    I am a Utopian, I believe that you can make the best of all possible worlds.
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    I don't.
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    Even If I design a city that works,
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    that city will be a straitjacket to the kids of the future.
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    They will design their own cities.
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    If you make a statue of me and put it in the city
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    that holds people back.
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    In order to move forward you have to look at things, examine it, improve it, move on.
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    History is very poor.
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    You don't learn much from it.
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    If you study history
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    exclusively,
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    you won't come up with new ideas.
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    We want to move on. There is no such thing as utopia. Every city I design
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    would be the best I know up to now.
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    And as time goes on you learn more and the city changes.
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    Nothing can be frozen
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    and kept that way.
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    Everything keeps changing.
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    There are no final frontiers.
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    That's what the matter with heaven. It's fixed.
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    Everything is the same way. Consider this - if you went to heaven and you look down
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    to starving kid in Africa,
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    war on Earth. Would heaven be a peaceful place for you?
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    Absolutely not.
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    There were bands of angels that turned against God.
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    So he kicked them all out.
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    They call them fallen angels.
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    If he don't have a peace up there, how the hell you're going to have it down here?
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    You have to read your bible. You have to be ruthlessly
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    honest.
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    If you not honest, it won't work.
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    It says in the bible
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    "Judge not,
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    lest ye be judged."
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    That means "don't judge anybody." You don't know enough
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    about what made him that way.
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    That also says in the bible
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    "Therefore
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    but by the grace of God, go I". That's anybody you see in a wheelchair, blind. All of us,
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    that can happen to all of us.
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    They don't know what to do about it.
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    In 1927 I came up with a little idea,
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    which I got from bats.
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    Bats can fly at night and not hit anything.
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    How do they do it? By sound.
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    So I made a little gadget that would fit over the person's ear
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    and generate sound waves.
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    So you can hear an open door even though you're blind.
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    You can hear an object in front of you by sound feedback.
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    So we can build
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    things in all cities so that blind don't need
    that white stick
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    or a dog or anything like that.
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    In a mean time
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    we'll work on artificial systems of vision.
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    I think that human being can solve any problem.
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    If you don't understand me (I am not upholding Germany this time.
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    Some people think I do.)
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    We formed the blockade to prevent the Germans from getting rubber.
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    But they had enough technicians
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    So they synthetic rubber, all the rubber from their airplanes
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    and everything
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    out of their own chemistry.
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    So... with technicians
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    not in charge.
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    Understand - I don't want to see science in charge of government...
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    or technicians.
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    What I want to see
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    is their assignment to problems such as
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    agriculture.
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    When you can grow food twice as fast on the soil,
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    you exhaust the soil.
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    So we want to know how to grow food faster without exhausting the soil.
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    The United States Army dumped 65 tons
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    of nerve gas
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    into the ocean off the coast of Miami
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    near the Golf Stream.
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    How can you love the country
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    if the army did that?
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    They don't know what they are doing.
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    "We want you to dump nerve gas." - "Yes, sir."
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    We don't want obedient people anymore.
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    We want you to understand what's happening.
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    We don't want to vote for a senator - some other jackass.
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    They are incompetent. All of them.
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    I want you to understand
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    everything that you have today
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    is your electric lights, your airplanes, your automobiles.
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    You have nothing to do with them.
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    You got them just being born in a country that has that technology.
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    You got it for nothing.
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    I don't think any of you here worked on the electric light
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    or radio,
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    or television, very few people.
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    You've got all them for nothing. Does it hurt you? Of course not.
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    They say - "Well, you don't want to give people things for nothing. Do you?"
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    This kid said that to me at Princeton University.
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    "Fresco, you want to give people things for nothing."
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    So I said - "Are you paying your way through college?"
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    He said - "No, my dad is." - I said - "Does that hurt you?"
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    This kid said to me he still doesn't believe
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    anybody ought to get things for nothing.
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    So I said to him "Well. As I understand your father is wealthy. If he dies,
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    you want that his money
    to go to the heart fund
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    and the cancer fund, but not to you 'cause you don't believe anybody ought to get anything
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    for nothing."
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    He said "Just a minute now!"
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    Everybody wants things for nothing. You've got the earth for nothing. You were born
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    here.
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    Beautiful scenery, clouds. You didn't make those things.
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    Does it hurt you? Of course not.
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    But if you're born in a polluted world
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    with smog in the air and automobile pollution,
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    you say - "I guess that's the way it is". It isn't that way!
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    It's because the people in charge in government
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    are totally incompetent.
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    So what you really want is a world free
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    of burden, pain, prisons, police, crime.
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    Can we do that?
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    The church has been trying to do that for year.
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    They don't know how.
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    They have no idea how to do it.
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    They say "Be kind. Be good". How do you do that?
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    So I wanted my children
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    (two of them)
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    to learn
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    how to read.
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    So I never taught them how to read.
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    I would open a book at night
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    and I read to them in bed.
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    I read to them about things kids are interested in.
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    This happened to be my son.
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    He was about four years old. I was reading about dinosaurs.
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    And I said - "When the two dinosaurs met... Aeeh [yawn]"
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    I said - "That's all for tonight." I close it.
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    He - "What happened when the dinosaurs met?"
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    I said - "Look, If you learn to read you can figure it out for yourself."
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    So I gave him a reason to want to read. Don't just teach them to read.
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    Teach them a reason for want to learn
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    mathematics.
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    Teachers teach you how to read. "The Dickie Dare and his sheep.
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    On the way he met a cow. "Moo moo", said the cow". What is that crap?
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    And then they have it in America (I don't know how much you have it here)
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    The Mickey Mouse Club.
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    Now, what the hell happens
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    if you condition kids to join The Mickey Mouse Club.
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    You make a bunch of Pinheads.
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    Do you understand? Kids want to know everything. How the airplanes fly.
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    "Daddy, what make the light go on."
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    He - "I don't know that."
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    Daddy usually doesn't know anything. And congressmen know less.
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    So, I'm saying - Everything that you have is technical.
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    Think about it.
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    If we took away technology. If you shut down boulder dam.
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    Tomorrow
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    all the food in all the refrigerator
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    from LA to San Francisco
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    would fail.
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    All the food would rot away.
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    Everything that you have is technology.
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    If you shut down the power projects, men would have to pull cars and boats.
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    They did it on the Volga River. They had to pull freighters.
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    Men (slaves) were whipped to do that.
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    Slavery
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    was normal in the old days.
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    And kings felt that they were put here to rule over people.
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    People in my position like to think
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    that they are here to try to make the world a better place. Divine wisdom
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    guides them.
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    Look... Divine wisdom doesn't guide anybody.
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    When Christians were fed to lions, they prayed like hell.
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    The Jews in concentration camp prayed
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    and they were burned.
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    In Salem, Massachusetts,
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    if a woman spoke up and she didn't quite agree with everything,
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    she was burned alive as a witch.
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    Now, here is what you didn't know.
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    I'm talking about United States.
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    Women, hundreds of them were burned alive.
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    Because they thought about things...
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    just a little different.
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    But, then what you didn't know is for every witch you found you inherited
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    their bank account and their land.
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    So, it's a good job looking for witches in the old days.
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    The more you can find, the more money you got... and free.
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    So, here you have a world
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    that is sicker than shit.
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    And what I say I mean it, I mean that the world you live in
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    is consisted of the stupid people
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    including the military.
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    The Pentagon and Washington think
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    that they are there to defend the country.
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    Whatever a man can think of, some other buddy can think of a way around that.
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    You can't secure yourself.
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    You think that you go to an airport, you put your luggage down,
    they x-ray it
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    and you're alright.
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    I can design clothing
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    that gives off nerve gas.
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    There are other ways around anything. I personally could think.
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    I wouldn't do that of course.
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    I wouldn't work on weapons.
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    When I was drafted in the army the first thing they've said
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    "Can you make a bomb, Fresco, that goes sideways instead of up?"
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    I've said - "I have no idea how to do that."
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    It says - "cast ye your pearls before swine"
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    People are not educated yet.
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    They should not have
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    weapons of mass destruction.
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    They don't know how to use it.
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    They should have technology that enhances all humans’ life.
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    This is what religion tries to do.
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    I would say that The Venus Project is the nearest thing to the brotherhood
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    of humanity.
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    So I want to try to tell you a little more about people.
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    If you were raised in the Nazi Germany as a baby.
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    If you never saw anything else
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    as the "Heil Hitler".
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    If you're raised in France
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    "La Tour Eiffel".
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    Your facial expression, everything.
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    If you're raised in the South of America,
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    you speak with a southern accent.
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    If I say "Stop speaking with it". You can't.
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    And you say ??"Well, I'm gon' get me a nigga and I'm gon' kick his ass"??
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    Is that you speaking?
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    Or is that picked from your environment?
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    If you take a normal boy
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    and bring him up with six
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    or ten very effeminate women.
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    Women speak differently than men.
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    They move their hands a lot.
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    And facial expression is different. More like I'm moving now.
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    So, If you were just brought up with...
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    A boy would move just like a woman.
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    If you brought up in Italy, you say "Come on, eat! Thes a gooda food."
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    See, because even that is reflection.
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    If you brought up in Germany again it's "Deutschland über alles."
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    If you brought up in
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    any other country,
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    you might say you know where the person was brought up
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    from by the way they speak.
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    "How are you, Mike?"
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    You know now that guy comes from Australia.
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    "How are you, Mike?"
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    Well, you'd speak that way, your facial expressions would be that way.
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    And you use words like individuality.
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    There's no such thing.
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    Everybody reflects their culture.
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    If you lived in France ten years,
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    you moved to Germany, lived there 10 years, you'll speak with the German-French accent.
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    Not a thing you can do about it.
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    So we reflect our culture.
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    All of us.
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    So when they say "Think for yourself". You can't.
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    'Cause you think as an American or a Frenchman,
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    or a German, or a Greek,
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    or an Italian.
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    So.. really.. when Germans speak, they speak (when they come to this country)
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    They speak and say "Well, I give you some idea what happened."
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    That's the way they speak.
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    They pick it up. It's a cross between German and English.
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    I worked for a guy named Ernst Udet,
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    who was an ace
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    of World War I. He shot down 71 planes.
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    Since I worked for him,
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    I said "How did you shoot down 71 airplanes?"
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    May be if you shot down 5 or 6, that's possible.
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    But how can you shoot down 71
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    airplaines?
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    He said [German accent] "It's very easy, Fresco." (That's the way he spoke)
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    He said "I would fly above the squadrons
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    'und' I looked for a rookie,
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    a bad pilot, that didn´t know how, and I pick them off"
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    So, is he a good man?
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    Is he kind? Is he humane?
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    Same with Eddie Rickenbacker.
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    They always fly above the squadron
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    and look for guys who can't fly too well and picked them off.
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    That gives you a lot of medals,
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    a lot of X's on your fuselage.
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    So when you're brought up,
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    you're brought up [where] lot of people go to church and say "Thou shall not kill"
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    So it's hard to get people to enlist in the army.
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    So they give Japanese or Chinese Americans false teeth.
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    And they make a movie
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    by Frank Capra called "Why we fight?"
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    And it shows these
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    Japanese kids
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    raping a woman.
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    And the enlistment goes up 71 percent.
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    You have to teach hatred
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    to have war
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    to be a working system.
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    An army man unfortunately
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    10 year after the war - that's the most exciting thing in their life.
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    And they always go back and join The American Legion.
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    And they talk about the days they shot these
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    god damn slanty eyed bastards.
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    And the Germans were called Krauts,
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    not human beings.
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    So, we shot them too.
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    So, soldiers are killing machines.
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    And if you want a world without war,
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    people have to be educated to understand,
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    that all people need the same thing - good food,
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    healthy livings and relevant education.
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    Not killing.
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    Because war only produces hatred over the years.
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    They remember that you killed their kids, their parents.
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    And they want to get even with you.
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    And some people say to me (I'm just imitating them)
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    "Why are these god damn north Koreans building rockets? And why are these
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    Chinese building big armies?
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    They are threat to us."
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    But, again I don't want you to take my word for this.
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    There's a newspaper in England called "The Telegraph".
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    "The London Telegraph".
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    And in this newspaper they ran a headline
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    (about seven years ago)
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    "The US intends to bomb seven countries".
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    Nuclear bomb,
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    sneak attack
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    on seven countries.
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    It names North Korea, China.
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    All the countries we don't like.
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    Headlined
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    in the "Telegraph". You haven't seen that.
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    So, write for it, don't take my word for it.
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    When you do that, if China said "We intend to bomb England, France, United States
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    and other countries",
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    we were armed to the tooth.
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    That's why they are all building nuclear weapons.
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    They are afraid of us,
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    afraid of America.
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    I didn't know they ran that, so you say "Why are these god damn Chinese doing that?"
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    "Why are these god damn Koreans doing that?"
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    They are doing it 'cause they are scared
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    of the United States.
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    And United States,
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    are their intentions good? They may be, but they are stupid people. Even if they
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    intended to do that,
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    they should not have released it.
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    It was released by the Pentagon.
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    According to the "Telegraph."
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    So, there is your reason.
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    People behave as they've been conditioned,
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    as they manage news and turn you off from things they think you ought not to hear.
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    Like the theory of evolution was held back for a long time.
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    And in all the parks in America (or most of them)
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    There are canons, war tanks, airplanes.
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    There should be statues of people
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    that increase food
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    that did wonderful changes in medicine. "Wash your hands."
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    "Retain cleanliness."
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    They used to cut cadavers
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    and then they go right on and do child birth
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    with surgery.
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    And the women would die of childbirth fever.
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    That was because they did cutting with cadavers, never washed their hands.
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    And the doctor that told them to wash their hands was kicked out of the university.
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    Because he told them to wash their hands.
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    "How the hell are you
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    to tell us what to do?"
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    So, everything new was fought - women's rights,
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    child labor. There used to be children in factories.
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    Of course it's a little before your time.
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    But people marched to get the children out of the factories.
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    And they had rotten eggs throws at them.
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    When you fought for women's rights,
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    the same thing, there were rotten eggs thrown at you.
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    "What do you mean 'women'? Women only good for two things, you know." So, they had
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    notions about women.
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    "You know, women can't learn to be architects and engineers.
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    Women are just good to produce babies
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    and cook for the old man."
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    Well, all this crap is disappearing.
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    But every inch of the way of progress
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    was fought. Just remember that.
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    Nothing comes easy.
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    People are now producing articles about The Venus Project,
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    because we're better known now.
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    They say - "Fresco get his money from the Vatican
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    or the Rothschild family,
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    or this banking institute."
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    I don't have any money. "Fresco has two Mercedes." I don't even have a car.
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    So, anyway they will spread whatever rumors they have to keep in power.
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    And that's what you're up against.
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    Whatever you do anything new
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    or different. Instead of, people are saying "You know, that's interesting thing.
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    Let me think about it.", you know.
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    They get mad at you,
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    because you're upsetting the apple-cart.
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    And that's what it's about.
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    We have a tough job ahead. All of us.
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    If you wish to live in a world
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    without war, poverty, unemployment, hunger, human suffering, you have to
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    talk to other people.
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    If you do nothing,
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    I can assure you, nothing will happen.
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    So I think I can open this portion to questions.
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    So Roxanne and I will take questions
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    from any one of you.
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    Thank you again.
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The Greatest Talk of Jacque Fresco - The Venus Project
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The Venus Project, Jacque Fresco - Talk in Stockholm, 2010

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