Death is a day worth living |Ana Claudia Quintana Arantes | TEDxFMUSP
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0:25 - 0:27Well, first I need
to explain what I'm doing here. -
0:27 - 0:30I can't actually believe I'm here.
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0:31 - 0:34I'm a licensed doctor,
graduated from São Paulo Medical School, -
0:34 - 0:36and very early on in medical school
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0:36 - 0:40I became interested
in something a little unusual. -
0:42 - 0:47It was very difficult in the beginning,
in the early years of my medical practice, -
0:47 - 0:51because I had different views
from other people. -
0:52 - 0:55There's a poem by Manoel de Barros
which I think is so me. -
0:56 - 0:58He had a girlfriend who said
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0:58 - 1:01she didn’t see a heron by a river,
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1:01 - 1:04she saw a river by a heron.
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1:05 - 1:10The way of seeing things,
the way I was seeing it, -
1:11 - 1:16was to "unpractice" the rules,
as Manoel de Barros so well put it. -
1:16 - 1:18So, I "unpracticed" the rules
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1:18 - 1:23because I started taking care
of people in their final days. -
1:24 - 1:26As a resident doctor,
my colleagues disliked me -
1:26 - 1:30because I'd fill my beds
with dying patients. -
1:32 - 1:36And that made me
understand more and more -
1:36 - 1:40how much medicine
had to offer to these people, -
1:40 - 1:43which was contrary to what everyone said:
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1:43 - 1:49that those who work in palliative care
have nothing to do. -
1:50 - 1:53In medicine, when you have nothing to do,
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1:53 - 1:56then you deliver the patient
to palliative care. -
1:57 - 2:02The second most difficult part of my work
was actually working in palliative care -
2:02 - 2:07because in our culture,
palliative is something like a quick fix - -
2:07 - 2:08"You're going to do a palliative." -
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2:08 - 2:11I heard that in class,
and it was painful to hear. -
2:12 - 2:14And palliative, in fact,
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2:14 - 2:17isn't like covering a loose wire
with electrical tape. -
2:18 - 2:22"Palliative" comes from
the Latin word "pallium," -
2:22 - 2:24which means cloak or blanket,
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2:25 - 2:28like the capes worn
by the knights of the Crusades -
2:28 - 2:31to protect them from the elements.
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2:32 - 2:34And this is exactly what I do.
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2:35 - 2:38I do palliative care, protective care -
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2:39 - 2:41protective care against suffering,
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2:41 - 2:46which is the nature of a serious,
incurable disease, -
2:46 - 2:51with no chance of treatment, of control,
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2:52 - 2:54that threatens the continuity of life,
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2:54 - 2:57and is progressive in that person,
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2:57 - 2:59and, inexorably, leads to death.
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3:01 - 3:05When we talk about this long definition,
I'm talking about the terminality -
3:05 - 3:07that everyone thinks has to do with time:
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3:08 - 3:11"They have less than six months.
They're terminally ill." -
3:11 - 3:14"They have a week.
They're terminally ill." -
3:14 - 3:16Terminality has to do with this concept.
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3:17 - 3:23It's a serious, progressive disease
that is following its natural course. -
3:23 - 3:28And it produces adversities
which we call suffering. -
3:29 - 3:31Disease is an abstraction of reality.
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3:31 - 3:32It's in the books.
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3:32 - 3:36It's under the microscope.
It's in the definitions, the publications. -
3:37 - 3:40But when disease finds a human being,
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3:40 - 3:44it produces a unique melody,
which is called suffering. -
3:45 - 3:48The disease may be the same,
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3:48 - 3:49but suffering isn't.
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3:50 - 3:53Suffering is unique -
each person has their own. -
3:54 - 3:57And suffering has five different tones,
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3:57 - 4:00five different frequencies.
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4:00 - 4:04You have physical suffering,
which makes a big noise. -
4:05 - 4:08It impedes you from hearing
all the other sounds -
4:08 - 4:09from this human being.
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4:10 - 4:13This physical suffering,
in palliative care, -
4:13 - 4:16is treated with urgency.
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4:16 - 4:20Because there's a real risk of death
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4:21 - 4:23if you don't deal
with the human suffering. -
4:23 - 4:27There's a lot to be done
in relation to symptom control. -
4:29 - 4:31Then you move on
to the emotional dimension, -
4:31 - 4:35which has a different tone,
although much more complex, -
4:36 - 4:40which has a Bach type of quality -
very complex, very rich. -
4:40 - 4:44Medicine is simple, folks;
psychology is difficult. -
4:45 - 4:48Every human being is unique
and will express at that moment -
4:48 - 4:50the awareness of their finitude.
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4:50 - 4:52Everybody here knows we all die one day.
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4:52 - 4:54Does this shock anyone?
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4:55 - 4:57It's not a surprise, is it?
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4:57 - 4:59You don't imagine
it could be in two weeks' time -
4:59 - 5:02from a stray bullet, for example.
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5:03 - 5:05When we talk about
the emotional dimension, -
5:05 - 5:10there's this pressure
to understand, to seek out -
5:11 - 5:13why this is happening.
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5:14 - 5:17In the social dimension
of all levels of palliative care, -
5:17 - 5:20we realize that suffering
is separated into four parts: -
5:21 - 5:26physical, emotional,
social, and spiritual. -
5:26 - 5:30Since I'm kind of pretentious,
I like to separate the social into two: -
5:30 - 5:33the family dimension
and the social dimension - -
5:34 - 5:36because we never get sick alone,
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5:36 - 5:38we get sick together with our family.
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5:39 - 5:41We're part of our family,
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5:41 - 5:44and later we become
a sick person in our family, -
5:44 - 5:50and after we die, a hole is left
that needs to be taken care of. -
5:51 - 5:53The spiritual dimension is fundamental
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5:53 - 5:56because it gives us
the essence of being human. -
5:57 - 6:00Spirituality isn't really
about being religious. -
6:00 - 6:04Religiosity is just a way
for you to achieve spirituality. -
6:04 - 6:08You find spirituality
in the way you relate to yourself, -
6:08 - 6:11in the way you relate to others,
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6:11 - 6:14in the way you relate
to nature, to the universe, -
6:14 - 6:16and with God.
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6:16 - 6:19There are those
who relate to the universe, -
6:20 - 6:22and it has nothing to do with God,
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6:22 - 6:25but it doesn't give
this spirituality less importance. -
6:25 - 6:28We look for meaning in our existence.
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6:28 - 6:30There must be the "whys."
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6:30 - 6:33And then we can endure
the "hows", as Nietzsche said. -
6:36 - 6:39Palliative care, therefore,
treats human suffering -
6:40 - 6:42in all these dimensions.
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6:42 - 6:43Contrary to what's been said,
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6:43 - 6:46there's a lot to be done
in palliative care. -
6:46 - 6:48We work very hard.
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6:48 - 6:51Because when I look at a patient,
I can't feel frustrated -
6:51 - 6:54by the fact that there
is no cure for their illness. -
6:54 - 6:57Because if I graduated as a doctor
to take care of people, -
6:57 - 7:00I can't get frustrated
because their disease has no cure. -
7:00 - 7:02But many people do medicine
to treat diseases. -
7:02 - 7:05There's nothing wrong in this,
but this option must be clear to you. -
7:05 - 7:09The patient knows by your face
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7:09 - 7:13when you say to him,
"Everything will be fine," -
7:13 - 7:17and your eyes show the contrary.
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7:18 - 7:22The patient understands this frustration
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7:22 - 7:25as "There's no hope for me."
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7:27 - 7:31And then, we reflect
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7:31 - 7:36about the significance of time
when we talk about palliative care. -
7:36 - 7:39To understand the importance of this work,
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7:39 - 7:45we have to realize
that in a situation like this, -
7:45 - 7:47where you're in
an outpatient clinic at 9 am, -
7:47 - 7:50and you're attending someone like this ...
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7:50 - 7:53She's really prepared herself
for this appointment. -
7:53 - 7:55She's been waiting 3 or 4 months for it.
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7:55 - 7:58She'll have 15 minutes,
maybe a little less than I have here, -
7:58 - 8:00to show you the importance of this.
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8:00 - 8:03She'll have 15 minutes
of the doctor's attention. -
8:03 - 8:04She's been preparing 3 months,
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8:04 - 8:07thinking of the most important things
to discuss in those 15 minutes. -
8:07 - 8:09Because part of those 15 minutes
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8:09 - 8:11will be spent by what
the doctor will say to her. -
8:12 - 8:15She's prepared, she dressed herself up,
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8:15 - 8:19put on earrings, a new dress, a hat.
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8:20 - 8:23Is the one sitting
on the other side ready for this? -
8:24 - 8:27Do they give this the same importance
that she's giving it? -
8:28 - 8:32Because the time that the two
will exchange is exactly the same: -
8:32 - 8:34the doctor will give
15 minutes of their time, -
8:34 - 8:37and she'll receive
15 minutes of their time. -
8:38 - 8:42The only difference between
the two characters in this scene -
8:42 - 8:44is that she has no time to waste.
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8:45 - 8:48The one sitting on the other side
has to understand how important it is -
8:48 - 8:50that she has no time to waste
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8:50 - 8:54with someone who doesn't care
about a human being -
8:54 - 8:56right up to the last minute
of their lives. -
8:57 - 8:59"There's no hope."
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8:59 - 9:03We can't possibly offer this to a person
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9:03 - 9:06who is much more than a body,
much more than the biological dimension. -
9:07 - 9:10When we talk about statistics,
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9:10 - 9:16we know that, in Brazil, around
1,100,000 people die every year. -
9:16 - 9:20We will be part of this statistic
at some point in our life. -
9:20 - 9:21At some point in our life,
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9:21 - 9:25someone we love very much
will be part of that statistic. -
9:25 - 9:30In Brazil, about 800,000 people
die of foreseeable causes. -
9:30 - 9:34They die from chronic
or degenerative diseases -
9:34 - 9:35or from cancer.
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9:36 - 9:40This foreseeable death
gives that person a chance -
9:41 - 9:43to reorganize their own existence
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9:44 - 9:47and to understand
what steps they want to take. -
9:47 - 9:52And they need someone on their side
who understands a chart, a statistic, -
9:52 - 9:54who does scientific studies.
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9:54 - 9:58Because science is brilliant, folks,
being a scientist is wonderful, -
9:58 - 9:59you discover so many good things.
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10:00 - 10:02You can offer so much to these patients.
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10:04 - 10:06And science has
an interesting characteristic: -
10:08 - 10:11everything you replicate has quality.
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10:12 - 10:15If you treat a million people
and find the same result, -
10:15 - 10:17this is scientific.
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10:17 - 10:20this is evidence-based medicine.
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10:21 - 10:24But with art, it's the opposite.
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10:25 - 10:27If you replicate art, it's called piracy.
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10:29 - 10:31Human beings are unique;
they're not copies. -
10:31 - 10:33They can't be replicated.
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10:33 - 10:36So you need to find the best
that science has to offer, -
10:36 - 10:37from evidence-based medicine -
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10:37 - 10:41there's a lot inside palliative care
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10:41 - 10:44that's consistent, grounded,
and technically well-executed. -
10:45 - 10:48You need to educate yourself
and understand the importance of that -
10:48 - 10:52to offer the best for that patient,
so they can get the best out of it. -
10:53 - 10:56If there's something very ethical
to be done in palliative care, -
10:56 - 10:59it's not doing for the other
what you would like for yourself. -
10:59 - 11:02That would be silly.
You'd do things as if they were for you. -
11:03 - 11:05The most ethical thing
we can do in palliative care -
11:05 - 11:08with a terminally ill patient
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11:08 - 11:10is to listen in the way
we'd like to be heard. -
11:11 - 11:14Then we'll understand
what it means to be on a chart -
11:14 - 11:18when you hold the hand of someone
who's included in those numbers. -
11:19 - 11:24A lot of people ask if it's morbid,
if it's difficult to work with death. -
11:24 - 11:28"Wow! Your work is beautiful!
But it must be very difficult, right?" -
11:29 - 11:31But I can tell you something:
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11:33 - 11:38it's one of the most
amazing jobs in medicine -
11:38 - 11:40because you don't suffer burnout,
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11:40 - 11:42contrary to what's said
by many who study burnout. -
11:42 - 11:45They say that people
who work in palliative care -
11:45 - 11:47or people who work
with terminally ill patients -
11:47 - 11:50have very high rates
of occupational stress, -
11:50 - 11:52but this is untrue.
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11:53 - 11:56Those who work with patients
who die are indeed stressed -
11:56 - 11:59because they don't understand
what they're doing there. -
11:59 - 12:02Those who work in palliative care
are exactly the opposite -
12:02 - 12:04and have the smallest possible
occupational stress rates, -
12:04 - 12:07because we learn to value life.
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12:08 - 12:11We're not an apology of death.
Death isn't pretty. -
12:13 - 12:15It has a unique, sad beauty.
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12:16 - 12:19But death isn't beautiful;
life is beautiful. -
12:20 - 12:24When you go into your office
like that, sit in that chair, -
12:24 - 12:26and look at the patient,
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12:26 - 12:29look at that person in a different way -
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12:29 - 12:30as Chico Buarque says,
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12:30 - 12:36"In a different way
that you'd never done before, -
12:36 - 12:39a warmer way of seeing
than you were accustomed to" - -
12:40 - 12:43then the person knows
there's someone who believes in them, -
12:43 - 12:46that they can handle this;
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12:46 - 12:49that, yes, they do have little time
but that you're by their side. -
12:49 - 12:52You'll treat their symptoms
with the same respect, persistence, -
12:52 - 12:55dedication, and determination
with which you'd treat the cancer -
12:55 - 12:58or treat their heart disease.
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12:58 - 13:01Once you're able to relieve
the physical symptoms, -
13:01 - 13:03the patient has the chance
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13:03 - 13:05to take care of everything
they need to in life - -
13:05 - 13:07things we leave till the last minute.
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13:07 - 13:09Is anyone here ready to die today?
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13:09 - 13:13Don't raise your hand;
come talk to me later, -
13:13 - 13:15and I'll refer you to a psychologist.
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13:16 - 13:18Nobody is ready, folks.
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13:18 - 13:21We always leave things
till the last minute, -
13:21 - 13:25like put on lipstick, brush our hair,
use the bathroom before traveling. -
13:26 - 13:28It's the same with every human being.
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13:28 - 13:32We have the illusion that it's the first
impression that sticks. -
13:32 - 13:34But it's not. It's the last.
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13:34 - 13:38It's amazing how everybody,
in their final days, -
13:38 - 13:40awakens, pours out
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13:40 - 13:42that which is the essence
of the human being - -
13:42 - 13:45which is the loving state.
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13:45 - 13:49The generosity with which these people
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13:50 - 13:55distribute wisdom,
knowledge, and gratitude -
13:55 - 13:57to those who work
in this with dedication - -
13:59 - 14:01I cannot describe it here.
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14:02 - 14:08And then we'll live periods
that can be filled with much joy, -
14:09 - 14:13especially because sometimes
patients have two joys: -
14:13 - 14:15one is to live that moment without pain,
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14:15 - 14:19and the other is to live that moment
when they can ask for forgiveness, -
14:19 - 14:24reconcile with a person they really love
and are able to thank them. -
14:26 - 14:27They do this once,
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14:27 - 14:31and they're really happy telling you
they were able to do it. -
14:32 - 14:33They say, "Can you believe that?
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14:33 - 14:35I did it!"
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14:36 - 14:40Then you can resume relationships,
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14:40 - 14:41redo situations,
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14:42 - 14:46understand your existence in a way
that makes total sense -
14:46 - 14:47during your final days.
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14:48 - 14:50Because we know
that at the end of a book, -
14:52 - 14:56we're able to understand a lot
that we didn't understand before. -
14:56 - 15:00Soap operas and movies are the same -
they make perfect sense at the end. -
15:01 - 15:03And if we're feeling no pain,
no difficulty in breathing, -
15:03 - 15:09no discomfort, fear,
guilt, or abandonment, -
15:09 - 15:12we'll be able to understand
the meaning of all this. -
15:14 - 15:18This lady here was one of those
who taught me the most. -
15:18 - 15:19We spent three months together.
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15:20 - 15:22I enter people's lives.
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15:22 - 15:25It isn't a pleasure meeting
Dr. Ana Claudia, it definitely isn't. -
15:25 - 15:26First, because I'm a geriatrician,
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15:26 - 15:29dealing with that phase of life
no one wants to go through. -
15:29 - 15:32And then I do palliative care,
so it isn't a pleasure -
15:32 - 15:35because I enter that door
that everyone wants closed, -
15:35 - 15:37which is the one of suffering,
disease, death. -
15:38 - 15:42But once I enter, I start
to become a very intense part -
15:42 - 15:45of that person's life,
of that family's life. -
15:46 - 15:48And there's no way around it, we're human,
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15:48 - 15:50and we give and take.
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15:50 - 15:55And the lessons we receive
are indescribable. -
15:55 - 16:00The day she passed away,
I had the chance to say goodbye to her. -
16:03 - 16:09It was very special because
when I was saying goodbye to her, -
16:09 - 16:10she shed a tear.
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16:11 - 16:14I shed dozens, but she shed only one.
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16:15 - 16:18And it was a tear that falls
from the eyes of a person -
16:18 - 16:20who had the chance to break free
from physical suffering, -
16:21 - 16:25who had the chance
to break free from fear, guilt, -
16:26 - 16:28the loneliness of being in that moment,
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16:29 - 16:31for having to go through
this moment alone, -
16:33 - 16:36freeing themselves from abandonment,
reconciling with their family, -
16:36 - 16:41being present with everyone
for most of their time, -
16:41 - 16:45admired by all for their courage to face
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16:45 - 16:47their final days.
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16:48 - 16:50And then that tear fell,
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16:50 - 16:55that yes, it was sad -
a legitimate sadness, right? -
16:56 - 16:58We can't help but feel sad.
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16:58 - 17:00But it was a pure tear,
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17:00 - 17:04from the essence of a life
that had found meaning in its existence -
17:05 - 17:06and was saved.
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17:07 - 17:11So when I speak about palliative care,
I also talk about saving lives, -
17:11 - 17:17except that we save historical lives -
life with a capital "L." -
17:17 - 17:20Not a body, not a disease that's healing,
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17:20 - 17:23but giving people the chance
to board first class. -
17:25 - 17:29In this life, regardless
of anyone's religion here, -
17:29 - 17:31in this life, we only die once.
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17:31 - 17:33You can't mess it up.
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17:34 - 17:38If we get the chance
to find professionals -
17:38 - 17:43who commit their time
to the importance we give to our time -
17:43 - 17:47and place priority
on the things that we determine, -
17:47 - 17:49we'll be very lucky people.
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17:50 - 17:52And I'd like to add that I'm very happy
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17:52 - 17:56to know that there are more people
who can one day believe -
17:56 - 17:59that death is a day worth living.
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17:59 - 18:00Thank you.
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18:00 - 18:02(Applause)
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On the one hand, relieving the pain and suffering of patients and family members. On the other hand, retrieving those patients’ life stories. This is the daily exercise of Ana Claudia Quintana Arantes - a doctor graduated from the São Paulo Medical School (FMUSP) and a specialist in palliative care at the Pallium Institute, Argentina, and the University of Oxford, in addition to a postgraduate degree in Grief Counselling. She’s responsible for implementing assistance policies for pain assessment and palliative care at the Hospital Israelita Albert Einstein, São Paulo, and is a founding member of the Casa do Cuidar, Practice and Teaching in Palliative Care Association. Currently, she works in private practice and as an assistant physician in the hospice section of the Hospital das Clinicas, FMUSP.
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