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How forgiveness can create a more just legal system

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    Would you ever forgive a person
    who kills a member of your family?
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    In September of 2019,
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    Dallas police officer Amber Guyger
    was sentenced for murder,
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    and then the brother of the victim
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    forgave her.
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    Brandt Jean was 18 years old,
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    and I joined the rest of the country
    watching on television in awe
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    at that act of grace.
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    But I also worried.
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    I worried that people
    who are African American like Brandt Jean
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    are expected to forgive
    more often than other people.
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    And I worried that a white
    police officer like Amber Guyger
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    receives a lesser sentence
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    than other people
    who commit wrongful killings.
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    But because I'm a law professor,
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    I also worried about the law itself.
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    The law leans so severely
    towards punishment these days
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    that it's part of the problem.
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    And that's what I want to talk about here.
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    The powerful example
    of one individual's forgiveness
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    makes me worry that lawyers and officials
    too often overlook the tools
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    that law itself creates
    to allow forgiveness,
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    when the principle should be
    the cornerstone of a thriving society.
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    I worry that lawyers and officials do not
    adequately use the tools of forgiveness,
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    by which I mean letting go
    of justified grievance.
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    And those tools are many.
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    They include pardons,
    commutations, expungement,
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    bankruptcy for debt,
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    and the discretion that's held
    by police and prosecutors and judges.
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    But I also worry -- I worry a lot --
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    (Laughter)
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    I worry these tools, when used,
    replicate the disparities,
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    the inequities along the lines
    of race and class and other markers
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    of advantage and disadvantage.
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    Biases or privileged access are at work
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    when United States presidents
    pardon people charged with crimes.
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    Historically, white people
    are pardoned four times as often
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    as members of minority groups
    for the same crime, same sentence.
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    Forgiveness between individuals
    is supported by every religious tradition,
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    every philosophic tradition.
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    And medical evidence now shows
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    the health benefits of letting go
    of grievances and resentments.
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    As Nelson Mandela
    led South Africa's transition
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    from apartheid to democracy,
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    he explained,
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    "Resentment is like drinking a poison
    and hoping it will kill your enemies."
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    Law can remove the penalties for those
    who apologize and seek forgiveness.
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    For example, in 39 states
    in the United States
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    and the District of Columbia,
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    there are laws that allow
    medical professionals to apologize
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    when something goes wrong
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    and not fear that that statement
    could later be used against them
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    in an action for damages.
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    More actively, bankruptcy law
    offers debtors, under some conditions,
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    the chance to start anew.
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    Pardons and expungements
    sealing criminal records can, too.
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    I have been teaching law
    for almost 40 years, hard to believe,
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    but recently, I realized
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    that we don't teach law students
    about the tools of forgiveness
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    that are within the legal system,
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    and nor do law schools
    usually explore
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    the potential for new
    avenues for forgiveness
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    that law can adopt or assist.
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    These are lost opportunities.
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    These are lost obligations, even,
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    because the students that I teach
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    will become prosecutors, judges,
    governors, presidents.
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    Barack Obama, my former student,
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    used his power as the President
    of the United States to give pardons.
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    That released several hundred people
    from prison after the law changed
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    to provide shorter sentences
    for the same drug crimes
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    for which they had been convicted.
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    But if he hadn't used his pardon power,
    they would still be in prison.
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    Legal tools of forgiveness
    should be used more,
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    but not without reason and not with bias.
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    A "New Yorker" cartoon shows a judge
    with a big nose and a big mustache
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    looking down at a defendant
    with the exact same nose
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    and exact same mustache
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    and says, "Obviously not guilty."
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    (Laughter)
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    Forgiveness could undermine
    the commitment that law has
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    to treat people the same
    under the same circumstances,
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    to apply rules evenly.
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    In this age of resentment,
    mass incarceration,
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    widespread consumer debt,
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    we need more forgiveness,
    but we need a philosophy of forgiveness.
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    We need to forgive fairly.
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    Contrast the treatment globally
    of child soldiers
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    with the treatment of juvenile
    offenders in the United States.
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    International human rights
    condemn and punish adults
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    who involve children in armed conflict
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    as those most responsible,
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    but treat the children themselves
    quite differently.
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    The International Criminal Court,
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    now with 122 member nations,
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    convicted Thomas Lubanga, warlord
    in the [Democratic Republic of the] Congo,
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    for enlisting, recruiting and deploying
    children, teens, as soldiers.
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    Many nations commit to ensuring
    that people under the age of 15
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    do not become child soldiers,
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    and most nations treat those
    who do become soldiers
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    not as objects of punishment
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    but as people deserving a fresh start.
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    Compare and contrast how the United States
    treats juvenile offenders,
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    where we severely punish minors,
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    often moving them to adult courts,
    even adult prisons.
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    And yet, like child soldiers,
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    teens and children are drawn
    into violent activity in the United States
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    when there are few options,
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    when they are threatened
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    or when adults induce them
    with money or ideology.
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    The rhetoric of innocence is resonant
    when we talk about child soldiers,
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    but not when we talk about
    teen gang members in the United States.
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    Yet in both settings, youth are caught
    in worlds that are made by adults,
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    and forgiveness can offer
    both accountability and fresh starts.
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    What if, instead, young people
    caught in criminal activity and violence
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    could have chances
    to accept responsibility
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    while learning and rebuilding their lives
    and their own communities?
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    Legal frameworks inviting youth
    to describe their conduct
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    could also involve community members
    to hear and forgive.
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    Called "restorative justice,"
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    such efforts emphasize
    accountability and service
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    rather than punishment.
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    Many schools in the United States have
    turned to use restorative justice methods
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    to resolve conflicts and to prevent them,
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    and to disrupt
    the school-to-prison pipeline.
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    Some American high schools
    have replaced automatic suspensions
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    with opportunities for victims
    to narrate their experiences
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    and for offenders to take
    responsibility for their actions.
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    As they describe their experiences
    and feelings about a theft
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    or hateful graffiti or a verbal
    or physical assault,
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    the victims and offenders
    often express strong emotions.
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    And other members
    of the community take turns
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    describing the impact
    of the offense on them.
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    The leader is often a student peer,
    who is trained to deescalate the conflict
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    and orchestrate a conversation
    about what the offender can do
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    that would help the victim.
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    Together, they come to an agreement
    about how to move forward,
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    what the wrongdoer can do
    to repair the injury,
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    and what all could do
    to better avoid future conflicts.
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    Consider this example,
    recently in a publication.
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    A young woman named Mercedes M.
    transferred, in California,
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    from one high school to another
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    after she was so repeatedly suspended
    in her old high school
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    for getting into fights.
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    And here in her new high school,
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    two other young women accused her of lying
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    and called her the b-word.
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    A counselor came over and talked to her
    and earned enough trust
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    that she acknowledged she had stolen
    the shoes of one of the other classmates.
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    Turns out, the three of them
    had known each other for a long time,
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    and they didn't know any other way
    to deal with each other
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    other than to fight.
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    The facilitator invited them
    to participate in a circle,
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    a confidential conversation
    about what happened,
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    and they agreed.
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    And initially, each of them
    expressed a lot of emotion.
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    And then Mercedes apologized.
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    And she said she had stolen the shoes
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    but she did so because
    she wanted to sell them
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    and take the money to pay for a drug test
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    so that her mother
    could show she was clean
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    and try to regain custody
    of two younger children
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    who were then in state protective care.
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    The other girls heard this,
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    saw Mercedes crying,
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    and they hugged her.
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    They did not ask her
    to return what she'd stolen,
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    but they did say they wanted a restart.
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    They wanted a reason they could trust her.
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    Later, Mercedes explained
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    that she was sure she would
    have been suspended
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    if they hadn't had this process.
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    And her high school has reduced
    suspensions by more than half
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    through the use of this kind
    of restorative justice method.
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    Restorative justice alternatives
    involve offenders and victims
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    in communicating in ways
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    that an adversarial and defensive
    process does not allow,
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    and it's become the go-to method
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    in places like the District of Columbia
    juvenile justice system
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    and innovations like
    Los Angeles's Teen Court.
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    If tuned to fairness,
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    forgiveness methods like bankruptcy
    would be available
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    not only for the for-profit college
    that goes belly-up
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    but also for the students
    stuck with the loans;
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    pardons would not be given
    to campaign contributors;
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    and black men would no longer have
    20 percent longer criminal sentences
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    than do white men,
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    due to how judges exercise discretion.
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    Forgiveness across the board
    is one way to avoid such biases.
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    Sometimes, a society just needs a reset
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    when it comes to punishment and debt.
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    The Bible calls for periodic
    forgiveness of debts
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    and freeing prisoners,
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    and it recently helped to inspire
    a global movement.
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    Jubilee 2000 joined Pope John Paul II
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    and rock star Bono and over 60 nations
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    in an effort to seek the cancellation
    and succeed in canceling
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    the debt of developing countries,
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    amounting to over 100 billion dollars
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    of debt canceled,
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    resulting in measurable
    reduction in poverty.
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    In a similar spirit, there are people
    who are copying the techniques
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    of commercial debt collectors
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    who purchase debt
    for pennies on the dollar
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    and then seek to enforce it.
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    Late-night television host John Oliver
    partnered with a nonprofit group
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    called RIP Medical Debt,
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    and for only 60,000 dollars,
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    they purchased 15 million dollars'
    worth of medical debt,
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    and then they forgave it.
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    (Applause)
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    That allowed nearly 9,000 people
    to have a restart in their lives.
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    This kind of precedent should trigger
    and encourage more such actions.
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    It's time for a reset,
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    given mass incarceration,
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    medical and consumer debt
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    and given indigent criminal defendants
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    who are charged and put in debt
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    because they're expected to pay
    for their own probation officers
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    and their own electronic monitors.
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    Forgiving violations of law
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    or promises to pay back loans
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    does pose risks.
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    Forgiveness may encourage more violations.
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    Economists even have a name for it.
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    They call it "moral hazard."
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    Should there be amnesty
    for immigration violations?
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    Should a president offer pardons
    to protect himself
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    or to induce lawbreaking?
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    These are tough questions for our time.
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    But escalating resentments
    hold their own dangers.
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    So does attributing blame to individuals
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    for circumstances largely outside
    their own control.
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    To ask how law may forgive
    is not to deny the fact of wrongdoing.
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    Rather, it's to widen the lens,
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    to enable glimpses of the larger patterns
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    and to enable new choices
    that can go forward
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    if we can wipe the slate clean.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How forgiveness can create a more just legal system
Speaker:
Martha Minow
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