Violence against women: understanding to change | Manuela Ulivi | TEDxMilano
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0:08 - 0:15Faced with this image,
you won't be indifferent, I know, -
0:15 - 0:19because this is an image of war
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0:19 - 0:23and evokes many feelings.
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0:23 - 0:27It's not just the war that destroys,
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0:27 - 0:30that creates disasters,
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0:30 - 0:33that creates wounds.
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0:33 - 0:37It is a war that elicits
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0:37 - 0:41very, very strong feelings.
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0:42 - 0:47Why did I choose this picture
to introduce my theme? -
0:47 - 0:52Because I would like you to focus
precisely on these feelings, -
0:52 - 0:59which are not only devastation,
but dismay also, -
0:59 - 1:05desperation, astonishnent and fear.
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1:05 - 1:10This is felt by a lot of women
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1:10 - 1:15in an underground war
that's alongside us every day, -
1:15 - 1:19one I discovered almost by chance.
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1:20 - 1:22It was 1990,
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1:22 - 1:26I approached some lawyers
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1:26 - 1:31who contested what then was a US decision
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1:31 - 1:38to attack Iraq, to attack oil countries,
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1:38 - 1:42and we were lawyers for peace.
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1:42 - 1:47And there we contested
that arrogant domination approach -
1:47 - 1:49they wanted to impose.
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1:49 - 1:51I don't know if any of you remember,
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1:51 - 1:54people were talking
of a possible Third World War, -
1:54 - 1:56the Gulf War.
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1:56 - 2:01Back then, a woman
approached me at an assembly -
2:01 - 2:03where we talked about all these things,
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2:03 - 2:05and she said to me,
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2:05 - 2:08"Why don't you join our association?
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2:08 - 2:12We are establishing a group of women
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2:12 - 2:17that take care of other women
who are suffering from violence." -
2:17 - 2:19I was immediately intrigued.
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2:19 - 2:22I went, I accepted this invitation
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2:22 - 2:27and I really discovered
an underground war, -
2:27 - 2:31a war that women were talking us about,
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2:31 - 2:36but compared to today
it was still unknown and unspoken. -
2:37 - 2:39But who were these women?
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2:39 - 2:42They were many types of women.
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2:42 - 2:44There was a lot of prejudice,
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2:44 - 2:48it was thought they only were
desperate women, -
2:48 - 2:52without resources, abilities, education.
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2:52 - 2:55Actually, this was not the case.
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2:55 - 2:58I even found some of my colleagues
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2:58 - 3:02who told me about episodes of violence
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3:02 - 3:06that always sound unbelievable.
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3:06 - 3:10Housewives, managers, freelancers,
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3:10 - 3:14lower class, middle class
and upper class people, -
3:14 - 3:16people with good economic status.
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3:16 - 3:17It is typically thought,
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3:17 - 3:21if someone has a good status,
is less likely to be influenced. -
3:21 - 3:22It's not true.
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3:22 - 3:27We immediately said,
this violence was transversal. -
3:27 - 3:31And so why was it still existing?
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3:31 - 3:34An aphorism comes to help me:
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3:34 - 3:38"Almost anything is easier to get into
than to get out of." -
3:38 - 3:42It's really true: in fact,
we listened to all those stories -
3:42 - 3:43and then we said:
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3:43 - 3:50"How do we help these women,
so that they can escape violence, -
3:50 - 3:54joining them and supporting them?"
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3:54 - 4:00So we started studying what could be done
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4:00 - 4:06in a careful, competent
and also scientific way. -
4:07 - 4:10But everything always came to us
from the stories of the women. -
4:10 - 4:14The "cycle of violence" was studied
in the late 70s in the US, -
4:14 - 4:17by Lenore Walker, who was a therapist.
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4:17 - 4:20After listening to so many women,
she elaborated it -
4:20 - 4:27and brought to everyone's attention.
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4:27 - 4:31how these stories can develop.
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4:31 - 4:33So, what is the cycle of violence?
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4:33 - 4:38She tells us how you enter this tunnel,
and how difficult it is to leave it. -
4:39 - 4:42There is the first phase,
called "Tension Building", -
4:42 - 4:44which is about provocation,
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4:44 - 4:50where there are many
particular moments where - -
4:50 - 4:53By the way, every story is different.
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4:53 - 4:56There is the woman who tells us
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4:57 - 5:01about a not-so-tasty pasta,
or something like that, -
5:01 - 5:05taken with the dish
and thrown into the waste bin. -
5:05 - 5:09Or the pasta thrown over the woman's head.
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5:09 - 5:12I'm quoting stories
I personally listened to. -
5:12 - 5:16And one wonders, why should a woman
stick with such a situation? -
5:16 - 5:19This is the first question
a woman is generally asked. -
5:19 - 5:24Well, I'd like to bring you
the voice of a woman I assisted -
5:24 - 5:28and who escaped violence,
and I'd like her to tell you, -
5:28 - 5:32because she explained very clearly,
right in front of a judge, what drove her. -
5:33 - 5:36Woman: "Because I loved him,
and I thought he could change". -
5:36 - 5:40MU: Because I loved him,
and I thought he could change. -
5:41 - 5:43This is just as typical.
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5:43 - 5:44One says,
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5:44 - 5:47"Well, that's weird: how come these women
put themselves in this situation?" -
5:47 - 5:52Yet, we must come to terms
also with our emotions. -
5:52 - 5:54And the other thing?
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5:54 - 5:58You go through a phase
where the tension builds, -
5:58 - 6:01and small or bold provocations are thrown,
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6:01 - 6:03to one where the tension erupts.
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6:03 - 6:05It erupts with an aggression -
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6:05 - 6:08but make no mistake,
it's not just a physical assault. -
6:08 - 6:11There may also be verbal aggression,
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6:11 - 6:14maybe also scaring people
through the breaking of objects, -
6:14 - 6:17through the slamming of doors,
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6:17 - 6:22through a whole series of acts
that lead to the person saying, -
6:22 - 6:26"Here I decide what to do
and how it is done." -
6:26 - 6:31And so, this is the phase
where, after the initial confusion, -
6:31 - 6:33you arrive at dismay,
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6:33 - 6:36because the very person who loves you
is doing that to you, -
6:36 - 6:40it is a person that you maybe
entrusted with many confidences, -
6:40 - 6:42they're a piece of your life.
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6:42 - 6:45And so, how to react to dismay?
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6:45 - 6:48Let me bring you again
the voice of this woman. -
6:52 - 6:55"I always nurtured a hope
that it was also my fault, -
6:55 - 6:59and that this would not have happened,
had I behaved differently." -
6:59 - 7:00I repeat, she says:
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7:00 - 7:05"I nurtured a hope
that it was also my fault". -
7:05 - 7:07Gosh.
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7:07 - 7:09A sentence that should make you shudder.
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7:09 - 7:12When I heard it and read it,
in the criminal trial, -
7:12 - 7:14I thought I misread it.
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7:15 - 7:17In reality this is how it is.
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7:17 - 7:22She hopes it's like this
to be able to escape it. -
7:22 - 7:26The problem is that you don't escape,
because - guess what happens? -
7:26 - 7:29There is the so-called "Honeymoon" phase,
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7:29 - 7:32which is perhaps, in the end,
the most dangerous one, -
7:32 - 7:35even more dangerous than aggression,
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7:35 - 7:37because it makes a woman think
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7:37 - 7:40that regret and loving care,
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7:40 - 7:43which the violent subject now shows,
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7:43 - 7:47to save a situation
he's perhaps losing control of, -
7:47 - 7:50maybe will make him change.
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7:50 - 7:53Maybe something will happen
so there will be no more, -
7:53 - 7:56that situation won't be repeated.
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7:56 - 8:01What Leonor Walker tells us instead is,
this is a recurring phase of a cycle, -
8:01 - 8:02it's a tunnel
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8:02 - 8:06and when we intercept women
we would like them in that stage, -
8:06 - 8:10between the honeymoon and the abuses,
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8:10 - 8:14to decide, because that is
the right time to escape, -
8:14 - 8:18it’s the moment when dismay
turns into fear, -
8:18 - 8:21the feelings of a war re-emerge,
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8:21 - 8:23and something can be changed.
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8:24 - 8:28Instead, the cycle starts back again
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8:29 - 8:34if you don't escape
and if you believe in that regret. -
8:34 - 8:39I'd like you to hear her voice,
for the last time. -
8:39 - 8:42Woman: "What was beyond me
is how he, after our quarrels, -
8:42 - 8:45where he harshly insulted me,
'Fuck you, bitch', -
8:45 - 8:46horrible words of all kinds,
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8:46 - 8:49after he calmed down,
he wanted to have sex with me. -
8:49 - 8:50And I couldn't say no,
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8:50 - 8:54otherwise everything
would start all over again." -
8:54 - 8:59She had already taken into account
the impossibility to say no, -
8:59 - 9:01otherwise it would
have started all over again. -
9:01 - 9:08A paralyzing fear,
for a woman in this situation -
9:08 - 9:13and allows violent people to get by.
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9:13 - 9:16In all these phases,
when it comes to abuse, -
9:16 - 9:18when the cycle starts again,
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9:18 - 9:20the abuse that comes next time,
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9:20 - 9:22I always say so the all the women I meet,
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9:22 - 9:26will be increasingly severe,
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9:26 - 9:32so running away as soon as possible
is absolutely important. -
9:33 - 9:36And what are the numbers for Italy
about gender violence? -
9:36 - 9:38You may even have heard them already.
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9:38 - 9:43One woman out of three,
16 to 70, has suffered violence, -
9:43 - 9:48and they're seven million women,
says our National Institute of Statistics. -
9:48 - 9:53four and half milion of whom
experienced sexual harassment -
9:53 - 9:58and for more than a million underwent
even more serious forms of violence, -
9:58 - 10:01like rapes or attempted rapes.
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10:01 - 10:04This is the situation of the numbers.
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10:04 - 10:07These numbers are robust,
repeat themselves, -
10:07 - 10:09and we have brought to light
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10:09 - 10:13also with the work
of women's help centres. -
10:13 - 10:17But with our work,
we also highlighted the costs. -
10:17 - 10:20Because we must also
ask ourselves this question: -
10:20 - 10:24what happens, when a woman
is stuck in a violent relationship? -
10:24 - 10:28Many things happen,
also in the outer world, -
10:28 - 10:31like going to the E.R.,
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10:31 - 10:35requiring a therapist, taking medications,
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10:35 - 10:38calling the police,
maybe she will sue him. -
10:38 - 10:44Suing seems to be a silver bullet,
but it is not necessarily the case. -
10:44 - 10:46Very often it is not, unfortunately.
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10:46 - 10:48There are courts
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10:48 - 10:52constantly at work on cases like this.
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10:52 - 10:55There are all the legal costs,
the costs of social services -
10:55 - 11:01and women's crisis centres
that play their part. -
11:01 - 11:06And all these costs are multiplied
by the productivity factor, -
11:06 - 11:09because a woman under violence
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11:09 - 11:13will no longer be the same person,
socially speaking, -
11:13 - 11:15she can't be as productive
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11:15 - 11:20as someone that is, more or less,
living their life peacefully. -
11:21 - 11:24What is the result of this operation?
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11:24 - 11:29It has been estimated, 26 billion euros.
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11:29 - 11:31And we believe,
this is also underestimated; -
11:31 - 11:35I'm talking about Italy,
not about the world, of course. -
11:35 - 11:39And in 2017 in Italy,
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11:39 - 11:44about 50,000 women
went to a women's crisis centre. -
11:45 - 11:48You understand, numbers don't match.
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11:48 - 11:53They should all be reconsidered,
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11:53 - 11:56and shortly I will also tell you how,
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11:56 - 12:00in order to involve all of us
in what we can do, -
12:00 - 12:05even if we don't work
in a women's crisis centre. -
12:05 - 12:06Why?
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12:06 - 12:11Because we would also like
to see you, women especially, -
12:12 - 12:14in our centre, maybe to help us.
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12:14 - 12:17Thre are many ways you can help
women's crisis centres, -
12:17 - 12:23but I'm not here today
to ask for this kind of help. -
12:23 - 12:27It's not a personal help,
nor a financial aid, -
12:27 - 12:30from the point of view of being there
and of supporting us, -
12:30 - 12:34because that's what one generally does
when it comes to violence. -
12:34 - 12:37What I would like to ask you
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12:37 - 12:41it is to help us all
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12:41 - 12:46cut this number of women
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12:46 - 12:50who are forced to turn
to women's crisis centres. -
12:50 - 12:52How, you might ask?
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12:52 - 12:58Well, that's a situation
we must evaluate all together, -
12:58 - 13:01because today we're talking about changes
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13:01 - 13:05and we have to think that, unfortunately,
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13:05 - 13:09no big changes on the matter
were seen recently. -
13:09 - 13:12That's because even the top manager,
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13:12 - 13:17even a skilled person
with financial and cultural resources -
13:17 - 13:22can be involved in this situation,
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13:22 - 13:25because it is a matter
of intimate relationships. -
13:25 - 13:31It is said, violence is a relationship,
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13:31 - 13:36is determined by a relationship
of domination between genders. -
13:37 - 13:39If this is true, let's think about it,
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13:39 - 13:44because there's prevention,
which is important for us. -
13:44 - 13:47What does prevention consist of?
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13:47 - 13:50We can all do prevention,
starting with education, -
13:50 - 13:53with the education of our children.
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13:53 - 14:00I always say, there are stereotypes
that we are still unable to shake off. -
14:00 - 14:04Boys are told, "Don't cry like a sissy",
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14:04 - 14:08Boys go for football, rugby,
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14:08 - 14:14boys practise sports, let's say,
with a certain strength, virulence; -
14:15 - 14:19girls are told instead, don't be a tomboy.
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14:20 - 14:24Behave yourself. Be polite. Be nice.
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14:24 - 14:25Be nice, mostly.
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14:25 - 14:27When we do all this -
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14:27 - 14:31Many women, many girls go to dance school,
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14:31 - 14:35the dance for little girls
is now the whole world. -
14:35 - 14:39So when we take these steps,
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14:39 - 14:42we risk having built
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14:42 - 14:47a structure that leads
that man or that woman, -
14:47 - 14:50that future man, that future woman
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14:50 - 14:53to be able to enter
the violence mechanism. -
14:53 - 14:56Because it is a mechanism
where one dominates -
14:56 - 14:58and the other one is victim.
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14:58 - 15:01So, be careful,
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15:01 - 15:06surely here, in this room,
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15:06 - 15:10there are people who have either
suffered violence -
15:10 - 15:13or have acted violently.
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15:13 - 15:17And, if statistics can be trusted,
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15:17 - 15:18as I believe,
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15:18 - 15:24we should start asking ourselves
questions about how we behave, -
15:24 - 15:27and this is the first uncomfortable thing
I'm going to tell you. -
15:27 - 15:31Because if we continue behaving like this,
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15:31 - 15:34we will also be accomplices
of certain forms of violence. -
15:34 - 15:39If we ignore, for example, what happens
between a female friend or colleague -
15:39 - 15:45and the male colleague,
who may behave incorrectly - -
15:45 - 15:47or worse, aggressively,
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15:47 - 15:51because, anyway, "you can say
many things to a woman", -
15:51 - 15:55she is not going to react
much like a man would. -
15:55 - 15:58So, let's lay the groundwork for this.
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15:58 - 16:03What I'm asking you is to change,
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16:03 - 16:06to change our way of thinking,
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16:06 - 16:10knowing that women are inside
the cycle of violence -
16:10 - 16:13also because sometimes
we turn our head away -
16:13 - 16:19or because we have "designed"
a manner for women -
16:19 - 16:22to be within those types
of situations and relationships. -
16:22 - 16:26Hence, we should change our minds
for changing our actions -
16:26 - 16:32and maybe everyone will be
a little more free and happy. -
16:32 - 16:33Thank you.
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16:33 - 16:36(Applause)
- Title:
- Violence against women: understanding to change | Manuela Ulivi | TEDxMilano
- Description:
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"I loved him, and I thought I could change him"
There are wars fought in our homes, they are everyday wars. They are underground, and create paralysis and pain. They are the actions of violent men against women. Lawyer Manuela Ulivi has been dealing with women's rights since 1991 and leads us to understand the "cycle of violence" and why we must change not only on the society but by starting from our education and from how we interface with each other.This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community.
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