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Why I’m A Vegan Against Animal Welfare

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    Grant Barnes: Would you clarify your position
    on welfarism.
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    Sure.
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    I feel like a politician: clarify my position.
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    Hi it's Emily from Bite Size Vegan and welcome
    to another vegan nugget.
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    When I recently held back-to-back live Q&A
    sessions on Facebook and YouTube, there were
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    so many great questions but such limited time.
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    If you missed either of the Q&A sessions,
    the links to those videos are in the description
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    below.
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    So today I wanted to provide a more comprehensive
    answer to an important question I received
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    on the Facebook live stream: what is your
    position on animal welfare, or more specifically,
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    welfarism.
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    If you haven’t guessed by this point: I
    am not a welfarist.
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    Shockingly, the title of this video is not
    click bait.
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    For those not familiar, animal welfare, animal
    rights, and animal liberation are not synonymous
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    terms or approaches.
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    In this video, we’re not going to get into
    the nuances of rights vs liberation, but I
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    will explore that further in a separate installment.
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    For the purposes of this video, I’ll just
    use the term liberation.
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    Both animal welfare and animal liberation
    operate on the premise that non-human animals
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    are sentient beings capable of suffering,
    and thus deserving of consideration and protection.
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    The exact nature of this consideration is
    where the approaches diverge.
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    Welfarism seeks to improve conditions for
    animals within the existing systems of our
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    food, entertainment, research, and commercial
    industries, as well as provide protection
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    for pets and wild species impacted by human
    activity.
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    In regards to so-termed “food animals,”
    free-range, cage-free, grass-fed, and humane
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    labels are products of welfarism.
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    I address the welfarist/humane approach in
    many videos, and I go into great depth in
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    my speech “The Best We Have To Offer.”
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    See the description for links.
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    But I felt it would be valuable to address
    this question in a dedicated video and in
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    a more conversational manner than my more
    highly academic, comprehensive speeches.
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    There are several issues with the welfarist
    approach.
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    Welfare regulations are designed to spare
    animals any “unnecessary” suffering—the
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    unspoken implication being that some suffering
    is necessary when it benefits humans.
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    Animals are still relegated to property status,
    every aspect of their lives and deaths dictated
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    by humans.
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    Animal liberation denies the superiority of
    humans to other species and vehemently rejects
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    the belief that one can kill with compassion.
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    There has long been active debate between
    welfare and liberation camps.
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    There are vegans within the welfare camp who
    argue that though the ultimate goal is total
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    liberation, there is value in improving the
    conditions for those animals currently in
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    our systems of exploitation.
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    While there is certainly validity in this
    position, I find it vital to take an honest
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    look at what welfare regulations actually
    mean for the beings they are designed to protect.
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    This is the entire premise of my speech from
    Dublin Ireland.
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    I spent many hours pouring over some of the
    most advanced animal welfare laws in the world—the
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    very best we have to offer—to determine
    the actual implication for the animals.
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    I’ll share a particularly telling example
    that I covered in my response during the Q&A:
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    So the EU had this whole thing of banning
    battery cages for laying hens.
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    And everyone was like ‘Ooh, laying hens,
    eggs in the EU they’re not in battery cages
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    - we’re great!’
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    And that’s what the public hears, but when
    you actually look into the legislation, and
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    people are like “well now, layer hens are
    going to get 750 square centimeters each it’s
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    going to be fantastic!’
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    What actually happened is instead of battery
    cages—or “barren” battery cages—they
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    now live in “enriched” battery cages,
    which means battery cages with some furniture
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    and maybe a little more space.
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    So, it even says in the legislation 750 sq
    cm per chicken, 600 of which are usable.
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    So really each chicken has 600.
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    A barren battery cage chicken has 550.
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    So this groundbreaking thing that everyone
    freaked out about gives chickens an extra
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    50 sq cm each.
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    And now they have furniture to bump into and
    because laying hens are bred to produce eggs
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    insanely frequently, they have very brittle
    bones, they are very prone to osteoporosis
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    and fractures and now they have more stuff
    to bump into and so they actually have higher
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    fracture rates.
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    And non-caged hens have twice the mortality
    rate of battery-caged hens.
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    So, when we look at this, what are we really
    improving?
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    What it seems that we are accomplishing with
    welfare is making ourselves feel better about
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    doing the exact same thing that we’ve been
    doing, but now we don’t have to worry about
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    it.
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    That doesn’t really do much for the animals,
    I don’t think.
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    This was done, like 1999 or something, when
    it came time so now the ban is supposed to
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    be in place, there were, I think it was 9
    that said either we’re not going to be ready
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    or we might not be ready or probably not going
    to be ready.
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    This was 12 years later.
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    They had 12 years to add 50 sq cm per chicken
    and some furniture, and they couldn’t do
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    it.
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    I mean it’s astoundingly ineffective.
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    And I think it does so much damage because
    what the public sees, and what people see
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    is: “eggs are now humane.”
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    And when you look at it, the EU started eating
    more and more and more eggs when this happened.
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    So, it actually seems to make it worse for
    the animals because now the demand is even
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    higher.
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    Humane stuff is, I think, incredibly dangerous
    because it gives us the ability - I mean,
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    we’re human, and we will do anything we
    can to not have to change a darn thing about
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    what we’re doing.
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    If we can keep doing what we want to do and
    feel good about it, that’s like the holy
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    grail and that’s what welfarism allows us
    to do.
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    As far as what it does for the animals - I
    don’t think much, honestly.
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    This ability to continue exploiting animals
    without guilt is what I mean when I say that
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    welfarism and humane treatment are worse than
    factory farming.
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    Here is another concrete example from Ireland,
    one of the most idealized countries for humane
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    treatment of farmed animals.
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    Just prior to this portion of the speech,
    I’d covered how mother pigs are confined
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    in farrowing crates throughout their pregnancy,
    only to have their babies taken time and again:
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    The sooner her babies are taken, the faster
    she can “re-enter production.”
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    At her “time of service,” the astounding
    term for forceful penetration of her vagina
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    with an instrument full of boar semen, she
    may legally be chained in place, one of the
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    number of exceptions allowing the tethered
    restrained of pigs.
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    Tethering stalls as a whole, where pigs were
    chained in place all the time were outlawed
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    by the EU in 1995, but as we’ll continually
    see with all regulations, this came with ample
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    exceptions, loopholes, and a 10 year window
    for implementation.
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    In 1998 91% of Ireland’s mother pigs were
    still confined to sow stalls or tethered.
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    And when sow stalls, also known as gestation
    crates, were subsequently outlawed through
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    a 2001 EU decision, again with ample fine-print
    exceptions and only for a certain portion
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    of their pregnancy, Ireland was one of nine
    member states found to be non-compliant in
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    2013, with the European Commission stating
    they’d “had twelve years to ensure a smooth
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    transition to the new system and to implement
    the Directive.”
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    The ineffectiveness of welfare legislation
    is not isolated to any one country or governing
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    body, though the level of supposed protection
    does vary greatly.
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    For example, in the United States there are
    no federal laws governing the treatment of
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    animals in our food industry.
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    Absolutely none.
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    We do have an Animal Welfare Act, first passed
    in 1966, but like so many welfare acts around
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    the world, it completely excludes animals
    raised for food, as do the majority of state
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    anti-cruelty regulations.
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    While animal advocates blame this lack of
    legal protection for the allowance of such
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    cruel practices as intensive confinement,
    routine mutilation, including the removal
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    of testicles, tails, horns, beaks, or toes
    without any anesthetic, and the live grinding
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    up of male chicks in the egg industry, among
    other atrocities, welfare legislation does
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    not by default eradicate such abuse.
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    For example, it’s a worldwide standard to
    dispose of male chicks by tossing them into
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    a grinder while fully conscious.
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    This isn’t a barbaric practice isolated
    to corrupt, abusive facilities.
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    Grinding babies is a welfare regulation.
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    It’s part of the “necessary suffering.”
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    If you’re wondering why this hasn’t been
    exposed on the news, it has.
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    And every time it’s people are appalled,
    outraged, disgusted.
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    They wonder how any person or industry could
    be so barbaric.
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    And they continue to eat eggs, not realizing
    they’ve just answered their own question.
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    The European Commission estimates that the
    EU kills 330 million chicks every year, with
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    global estimates at 3.2 billion.
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    I could talk about this subject for days and
    still not cover everything.
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    And I’ll certainly continue to explore its
    depths in future videos.
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    But I think perhaps what may bring the most
    clarity regarding the efficacy of welfarism,
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    is imagining these measures being applied
    to ourselves:
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    I mean it really is absurd when we step back
    and think about it.
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    Do we have manuals on how to humanely rape
    hamans?
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    Or how to compassionately kidnap?
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    Or ethically rob?
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    Of course not because those are oxymorons.
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    They cannot coexist.
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    But when it comes to our treatment of animals,
    we will bend over backwards and create massive
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    paper trails of regulations to feel good about
    what we are doing.
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    We turn these living beings into data points,
    flowcharts, and percentages—calculate to
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    a decimal point’s certainty the exact cost
    of every aspect of their lives and details
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    for their deaths.
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    We relegate the annual mass murder of over
    3 billion day-old conscious, innocent babies
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    to a footnote.
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    A footnote in a study conducted for the welfare
    regulations we’re so graciously creating.
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    We deem them legally sentient, deserving freedom
    from hunger, thirst, discomfort, pain, injury,
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    disease, fear, distress and mental suffering,
    as the EU did—then use this very recognition
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    of their capacity to feel the same emotions
    and sensations as we do to design—in language
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    so disturbingly detached it’s nothing short
    of sociopathic—the exact manner in which
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    we may legally violate, imprison, cut, burn,
    alter, and murder them.
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    This is how profoundly illogical our thinking
    is when it comes to animals.
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    It goes against all basic human understanding.
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    Knowing better but doing wrong anyway is worse
    than having no knowledge.
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    Yet we have the audacity to hold this legislative
    recognition of non-human sentience on high
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    as a giant step forward for the rights of
    animals.
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    As if systematically exploiting individuals
    with fully admitted knowledge and comprehension
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    of their capacity to suffer is something to
    commend.
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    Look what we offer ourselves as evidence of
    progress: one news report extolled the reduction
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    in animals slipping and falling on their way
    to slaughter in one abattoir in one country.
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    When we look at our actions from the other
    side, the perverse absurdity of our deluded
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    self-congratulations is astounding.
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    If you were in the place of these beings,
    how grateful would you feel if your captor
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    laid down a bathmat on the ramp to your execution?
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    Is this really the best we have to offer?
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    Being the most courteous murderers?
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    The most considerate rapists?
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    Pouring untold resources into these convoluted
    laws and regulations, all the while completely
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    blind to the fact that there’s another option
    entirely.
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    I hope this video has more thoroughly illustrated
    why I’m not a welfarist.
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    I’d encourage you to see the links I’ve
    provided below as well as on the blog post
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    for this video to do your own further research.
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    If you really want to dive in, see my full
    speech from Ireland, and its respective blog
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    post.
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    As I’ve said many, many times, in order
    to make informed decisions, to look ourselves
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    in the mirror and ask if we are truly living
    the values we purport to have, we must know
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    the truth.
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    We must educate ourselves about what is really
    going on, not rely on what we’ve been taught.
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    We must make decisions based on facts, not
    fantasy.
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    This is why I am so emphatic about putting
    in the hours upon hours of research to get
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    to the truth.
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    To provide what the laws actually say, not
    simply offer my personal opinion.
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    I’ll leave you with the powerful words of
    Alex Herschaft, the founder of the Farm Animal
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    Rights Movement and a Holocaust survivor:
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    "I don't believe in small improvements to
    the living conditions of the chickens and
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    cows.
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    Slightly increasing the sizes of the cages
    is like giving me a hot meal while I'm imprisoned
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    in the ghetto.
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    It's like asking an abusive man to continue
    beating his wife but in a less brutal manner.
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    The solution is for all of us to stop eating
    meat, eggs and dairy products."
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    Please share this video with your friends,
    family, and within any discussions of animal
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    welfare, so that others may find solid, cited
    information on this topic.
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    and my whole Nugget Army Patreon family for
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    making it possible for me to conduct this
    research, deliver speeches all over the world
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    Now go live vegan, don’t buy the humane
    lie, and I’ll see you soon.
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    Our rationalizations and justifications are
    of no use to those whom we exploit.
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    For the cow, the pig, the chicken, duck, turkey,
    for the lamb or sheep—they don’t know
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    the name of the company or person enslaving
    them.
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    They don’t know what size the farm is or
    in what country.
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    They are just as robbed of their rights and
    their lives regardless of location.
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