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(music) ("Sex Partners for
Kindergartners" by Scalding Lucy)
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Beth: Let's talk about
Picasso's great painting
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"Still Life With Chair Caning" from 1912.
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Voiceover: It's barely
a painting at all ...
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makes it great. (laughs)
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Steven: I think in many ways, it at least
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looks at least like a disaster.
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What's great about it is the ideas that
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he's thrown into this painting.
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Beth: Since it's not so
beautiful to look at,
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I guess we have to talk about the ideas.
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Steven: Why isn't it beautiful?
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What do you want from a painting
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for it to be beautiful?
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Beth: My big problem with why this is
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not beautiful is that
it's all grey and brown.
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It's my big problem with
analytic Cubist in general.
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I like color.
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Steven: This is why people
walk by these paintings
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in a museum and they say,
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"I know that's important,
but do I have to look at it?"
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Beth: Also, all of these
analytic Cubist paintings
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tend to look the same.
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Voiceover: So how does one then enter into
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the painting and stop and pay attention?
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What's the entree into this painting?
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Steven: Well, it's pretty arresting.
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If you were seeing this in the museum
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as opposed to on a computer screen,
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the first thing you would notice is that
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only the top and the
right side of the canvas,
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that is only area here and this area here,
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are really paint.
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The entire bottom left
part of the canvas is
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this other material which
is called "oil cloth".
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Beth: Has anyone ever
introduced oil cloth,
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put oil cloth on a painting before?
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Steven: [Brock] had, but just recently.
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Before that, of course not.
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The reason for "of course not", is because
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oil cloth was the cheapest material ...
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Beth: Right, you buy it like roller.
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Steven: It's like contact paper.
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It's the stuff you line
your shelves with or
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use on a cheap table so
you can wipe up spills.
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Beth: Hardly high art material.
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Steven: So what does that mean?
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What is that suggesting
Picasso is doing here?
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Beth: He's making art into garbage.
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Steven: Into trash, that's right.
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Voicemail: Or visa versa.
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Beth: Or trash into art, absolutely.
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Voiceover: But again, how does one enter
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into this without understanding
all of those things
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which are keen to the common viewer?
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Beth: I don't think one does.
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I think this painting
only becomes great when
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one understands its place
in the history of art.
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Steven: I don't think that Picasso
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actually expected many people to
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look at this painting in the first place.
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If they did, I think that he was speaking
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to a very small audience.
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Beth: How big is this painting?
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Steven: It's less than two feet across.
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Beth: So is it about the size of a table?
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Steven: It's about the size of a table.
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That's exactly what it is, in fact.
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We're really looking at a breakfast table.
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We're putting up on the screen now ...
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What you're seeing is, on the upper right,
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a detail of this "Still
Life With Chair Caning."
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But let's just stop and even just say what
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this chair caning is, and
this oil cloth business.
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On the left, you can see some rolls of
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oil cloth that are for sale.
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You'll notice that there's
a printed pattern on them.
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Below, oil cloth being
used as a tablecloth.
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The printed pattern that Picasso bought
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in a hardware store as if he had gone to
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Home Depot or something
and bought this material.
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Had printed on it a photograph of,
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well, it really wasn't a photograph, but
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a drawing of chair caning, so this
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sort of repetitive pattern.
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He takes it and he
literally just glues it down
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onto a canvas and then
just paints over it.
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Beth: What's interesting to me is that the
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chair caning in the painting is incredibly
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illusionistic and looks really looks like
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the chair caning on this chair.
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Steven: So let me ask you
then, is Picasso cheating?
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Historically we've
always tied the notion of
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the conceptual and the
great artist to his ability
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his ability to render,
her ability to render
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illusionistically and
so is Picasso cheating
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by going out and buying this factory-made,
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reproduced material and
sticking it into the
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painting and saying, "I don't
have to paint this anymore."
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Beth: Not only that, but
the idea of skill and
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greatness being calculated by how well
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one renders reality becomes sort of moot
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because machines can print reality on
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cheap stuff and you can
buy it at Home Depot.
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Why wouldn't artists?
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Male voiceover: Obviously
this is a discussion
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that we wouldn't have today because
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we would never consider that cheating,
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taking found objects.
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Was that a discussion when
this painting appeared?
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Steven: It was. In fact, I
think it's a discussion that
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not only begins to really sort of
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very consciously break those taboos
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but it also sends out
what will eventually,
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in about 50 years, become
known as "pop art".
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This idea of actually looking to our
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new industrial culture, or
visual industrial culture
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and saying, "What is
the place of that world
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in the realm of fine art?"
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Voiceover: Didn't [DuSchoen]
do that before pop art?
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Steven: He did. Absolutely.
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Beth: He was [unintelligible].
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Voiceover: What is the JOU?
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What do you think that's all about?
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Steven: Well, the JOU had a couple of
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different meanings as I understand it.
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One is a reference to the
French word for "game".
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Voiceover: [JOUA], that's what I thought.
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Beth: That's right.
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Voiceover: That's exactly what I thought.
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Steven: And the second is, those are the
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first three letters of the
French word "newspaper".
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Voiceover: Journal.
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Steven: Precisely.
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So if you read this, the
JOU, you can actually
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read it in a very literal sense as a
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rolled up newspaper on a table.
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It also has that double entente and
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suggests that the entire painting is
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a type of play.
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Voiceover: [French word]
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Steven: Yes.
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Beth: So what we're
looking at is a table top,
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but if we look at the
pictures on the left of
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cafe tables with chairs with chair caning,
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those tables are round so ...
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Steven: So what's the problem?
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Male voiceover: That this is an ellipse as
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opposed to ...
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Beth: How do you get an ellipse?
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You get an ellipse by looking at a circle
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from an oblique viewpoint.
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Steven: Go to the next image, one forward,
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now you know the table
you're seeing on the right
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is in fact, a perfectly round table,
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but we're looking at it obliquely,
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we're looking at it at
an angle and so we're
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actually seeing it as
a kind of ellipse that
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Picasso's offering us.
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So is it possible that
we're actually looking at
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a glass-topped table and in fact,
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what we're seeing as chair caning is
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the chair flipped underneath it.
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Voiceover: What a neat way
to look at the painting.
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That's really cool.
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Beth: Why take apart all
the forms that are on top?
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We're looking through the table,
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we're thinking about the idea of
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looking through the table
and the table is glass,
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also suggests an idea,
an important idea of
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western art of the painting being a window
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into a world that looks very real.
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But on the other hand, Picasso's making it
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really clear that he's
not looking at things
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illusionistically, he's
looking at the objects
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on the table from lots of
different places [unintelligible].
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Voiceover: You're seeing
everything simultaneously
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without any kind of distinction.
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Everything's been flattened so they all
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share the same plane almost.
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That's an interesting, disconcerting
way of looking at things.
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Steven: I think you're
both right on target where
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he wants to show us his
entire visual understanding
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of this sort of place, this event.
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He's not just giving us the table top,
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he's giving us the table
top with the chair,
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and all of the objects
really deconstructed so
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that they include not
what he would see from
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a single perspective, as you said,
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but what he would see in his
full visual understanding
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of each of these forms over
time with his visual memory.
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Beth: So what we have on the
table apparently is a clay pipe.
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Steven: You can see that right below here.
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Here's the bowl of the
pipe and here's its stem
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down here which is obviously leaning
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right up over the newspaper almost
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intersecting that newspaper.
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Beth: And then over here, that's
a little bit more obvious.
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We've got a detail over here on the right.
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Steven: You can see the segmentations of
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some citrus; we put a
lemon up as an example,
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but it's being cut through by the knife.
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Can you see the blade of the knife?
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Beth: Where's the blade of the knife?
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Steven: That's right, more
like a cleaver than a knife.
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This would be the blade
and this here, the handle.
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Beth: Oh.
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Steven: In between, of
course the newspaper,
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the pipe on the left and, I'm sorry ...
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The newspaper and the pipe on the left,
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and the knife and the
lemon on the right is
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well, can you make it out?
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Voiceover: Where?
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Steven: This and everything above it.
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Beth: A bottle of wine?
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Steven: A glass.
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Beth: A glass.
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Steven: A piece of stemware.
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Beth: A little bit like
what we had on the table.
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Steven: That's right. If you
look at the glass of red wine,
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you'll see not only this kind of wonderful
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reflectivity in it, but you can see
the lip of the top of the glass,
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you can see the plane
of the top of the wine,
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and then of course, the stem
and the base of the glass.
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If you go back over to,
lets see if we can zoom in
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on the central glass.
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Maybe by going forward.
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Beth: I think if we go
back to the painting
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that we had in the
beginning you'll see it.
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Steven: Okay, so now if
we look at this carefully,
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you can see here down at the bottom,
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this kind of wonderful
ring and can you just
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imagine that now as the base of the glass
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that it's resting on?
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Look at it. We're looking down at it and
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then look at this line
that's more horizontal.
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Is it possible that Picasso's taken
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a second viewpoint and
we're looking across
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this sort of thick object, the stem,
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the base of the stem, the bowl from
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several different angles and then
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looking at the top, looking across the top
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and then looking down at the top here.
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Voiceover: So basically
what we're looking at
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is a painting within
which there are multiple
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viewpoints of different objects and
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they're all fused together.
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But I have a couple
questions about the rope.
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Is the rope literally a rope?
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Steven: It's a real rope
that Picasso actually
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went to a ropemaker and had specifically
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custom made for this canvas.
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Voiceover: It's funny
that you have the rope
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containing something, it's
the one literal container
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of something that seems
so uncontained in a way.
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Everything inside of it seems,
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you don't know what's holding it together
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and it's the rope itself functions as
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some glue to keep it all together.
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Steven: It really bundles this mess.
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Voiceover: It does bundle
it and then adds a little,
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when you show this painting
next to the table top,
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it's the one literal
reference to the table ...
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to that, I guess it was a
silver edge to the table.
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Steven: I think we've seen a sort of theme
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restaurant, seafoodie places.
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Voiceover: Right.
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Steven: Tables with ropes around them.
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I think the rope really is a problem.
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I think it's a question as to why ...
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Voiceover: It seems like it doesn't fit.
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Steven: Yeah.
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Voiceover: It seems like an attempt to
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domesticate something
that's not domesticatable.
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Steven: But does it point out some of the
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conflicts that exist between the oil cloth
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and the chair caning inside,
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and the little rendering through paint in
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a sort of Cubist portion
of the painting at the top?
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By showing this sort of contrast between
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the evidentiality of the rope and the
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space of the view within it,
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sort of very consciously setting up
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something that's clearly
actual and tactile,
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like something that is truly visual.
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Beth: We have a lot of levels of reality
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We think Plato would have
had a lot of fun with this
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because we have the real rope,
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we have the real chair caning,
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oil cloth with the chair caning ...
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Steven: Which has an illusion.
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Beth: Which has an
illusion of chair caning,
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and then we have the
painting which creates
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a kind of, in a way,
probably a higher level of
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reality by showing all viewpoints at once
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instead of a single
viewpoint to a greater or
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almost divine reality.
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Voiceover: Wouldn't this be wonderful as
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an actual table top?
(Beth giggles)
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Voiceover: As opposed to a painting?
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Voiceover: You might put just a pane of
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oval glass on it, it'd be fabulous.
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Beth: It would be fabulous. (laughs)
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Voiceover: And I think you'd pay a lot
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more attention to it.
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(music) ("In The Sky With
Diamonds" by Scalding Lucy)