The whole truth about misinformation | Clara Jiménez | TEDxMadrid
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0:18 - 0:21October 28th, 2017,
a group of elderly -
0:21 - 0:25were visiting Cabárceno Natural Park
in Cantabria. -
0:25 - 0:28When they were around
the hippopotamus enclosure, -
0:28 - 0:32one of the animals
surprised them with a big fart -
0:32 - 0:36which caused some of
the elders to fall down. -
0:36 - 0:39Three of them were taken to hospital.
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0:40 - 0:41It seems unbelievable, doesn't it?
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0:41 - 0:43Well, this headline,
-
0:43 - 0:44"The fart of a hippo
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0:44 - 0:48sent three zoo visitors
directly to hospital," -
0:48 - 0:52was published in several mass media
that we all consider serious, -
0:52 - 0:55we think they have credibility,
they seem trustworthy. -
0:56 - 0:57However,
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0:57 - 0:59this headline is fake,
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1:00 - 1:01It is a hoax.
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1:02 - 1:03My life changed some months ago.
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1:03 - 1:05I left my work at a TV station
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1:05 - 1:07to create, along with a partner,
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1:07 - 1:09an independent journalist project
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1:09 - 1:11that fights against misinformation,
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1:11 - 1:13that bets for data journalism,
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1:13 - 1:14for trustworthiness,
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1:14 - 1:16for transparency,
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1:16 - 1:18and for memory.
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1:18 - 1:22It will help citizens distinguish
what is true -
1:22 - 1:23and what is not.
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1:23 - 1:25That is what I want to talk to you today.
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1:25 - 1:26Let's go.
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1:26 - 1:32(Sounds)
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1:32 - 1:35When we hear this, we know
we are going to hear a newsletter. -
1:35 - 1:40We identify these sounds as
the consumption of radio information. -
1:41 - 1:42We see this:
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1:42 - 1:51(Music)
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1:51 - 1:53And we know that the TV news
are about to start. -
1:53 - 1:56We associate these images and that music
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1:56 - 1:58with the uptake
of audiovisual information. -
1:58 - 2:04We touch this paper, we have it
in our hand and we know that this, -
2:04 - 2:08is an information consumption format,
a newspaper. -
2:08 - 2:12Our senses associate
these formats with news. -
2:12 - 2:15Even though they can lie to us, right?
I can feel it in the audience. -
2:15 - 2:18What we have internalised is
that in those formats, -
2:18 - 2:21we get information.
-
2:21 - 2:24This is what we call "the anchor"
in maldita.es -
2:24 - 2:27Stay with this, because
you are going to hear it over again. -
2:27 - 2:28And then you will say:
-
2:28 - 2:30What has changed? What is different?
-
2:30 - 2:31(Donald Trump audio)
-
2:31 - 2:35"We are fighting the fake news.
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2:35 - 2:38I call the fake news
'then enemy of the people' -
2:38 - 2:40And they are. Fake news."
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2:40 - 2:41(Audio finishes)
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2:41 - 2:42This is what has changed:
-
2:42 - 2:44to have Internet
in our pockets at all times -
2:44 - 2:48and to consume every time more
and more news through WhatsApp, Twitter, -
2:48 - 2:50Facebook, Instagram.
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2:50 - 2:52Which is alright, I agree.
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2:52 - 2:56But, here is where misinformation
is most likely to mimic true information, -
2:56 - 2:58to disguise like it.
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2:58 - 3:01And here is where the anchor
we were talking about before -
3:01 - 3:03gets spread.
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3:03 - 3:04How does this happen?
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3:05 - 3:07This is a real piece of news.
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3:07 - 3:10And this is misinformation,
what many people call, -
3:10 - 3:13I do not like this term
though, hoax news, -
3:13 - 3:14"fake news."
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3:14 - 3:17Because, when I say
something is fake news -
3:17 - 3:19I am not referring to the same as
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3:19 - 3:22when Donald Trump
says CNN is "fake news." -
3:22 - 3:27Because this is not news.
It has never seemed to be one. -
3:27 - 3:29It is just a disguise to misinform.
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3:29 - 3:32This is a very important thing
to keep in mind. -
3:32 - 3:34However, what do they have in common?
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3:34 - 3:38It seems they all have the same format
with their headline and a picture. -
3:38 - 3:41We do not have a reference that shows us
one is true and the other one is fake. -
3:41 - 3:44And we have to add
another problem to this: -
3:44 - 3:48every time we tend to consume more news
on its own, without any context. -
3:48 - 3:52Every time we spend less time
on the webpage of a mass media, -
3:52 - 3:55on its front page, to see
what they decided to be important -
3:55 - 3:58and we consume news
through what comes on social media: -
3:58 - 4:00through WhatsApp or Facebook.
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4:00 - 4:04Not knowing what kind of webpage
we are getting access to read, -
4:04 - 4:06or whether the resource
is reliable or not. -
4:06 - 4:09For instance: "Urdangarín
will have a payment in Switzerland -
4:09 - 4:10for his expenses."
-
4:10 - 4:14That headline went viral.
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4:14 - 4:17There are many people that,
to this day, believe that, effectively, -
4:17 - 4:20the king's brother in law,
was condemned for corruption -
4:20 - 4:22and the Royal House
paid for his expenses. -
4:22 - 4:25Someone in this audience is probably
realising now that this was a lie. -
4:25 - 4:27Why did this happen?
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4:27 - 4:31Because this piece of news went viral
without context, without anchor. -
4:31 - 4:33We are going to show you
why this is so important. -
4:33 - 4:37If we see this news on the cover
of newspapers like El País o El Mundo, -
4:37 - 4:40we could think by the context,
by what surrounds it, -
4:40 - 4:42that this news is true.
-
4:42 - 4:45it might be that the king's
brother in law, condemned, -
4:45 - 4:46was granted those privileges.
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4:46 - 4:51But, if we look at them here,
in their true origin, -
4:51 - 4:53where is this news coming from?
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4:53 - 4:57Precisely, from what is surrounding it,
because of the context it has around it, -
4:57 - 5:01there is something that makes us think
that it might be unreliable. -
5:02 - 5:05Well this has another twist.
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5:05 - 5:07Sometimes, we do not even read the news.
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5:07 - 5:11Sometimes, we just read
the headline and the picture. -
5:12 - 5:14And if we look at it like this?
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5:14 - 5:17We do not have any reference.
We do not know where it comes from. -
5:17 - 5:20We do not know its source.
We do not know its date. -
5:20 - 5:22We do not know
if it is reliable or not. -
5:22 - 5:24I will give you another example:
-
5:24 - 5:27"Military service for people under 25
becomes compulsory again." -
5:27 - 5:30We get this through our phone.
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5:30 - 5:33It is a headline, a picture,
there is no link, and no date, -
5:33 - 5:37because it does not even have the year
and we do not know where it comes from. -
5:37 - 5:38Where is our mind situating this?
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5:38 - 5:42In a reliable web
or in a non reliable one? -
5:42 - 5:44What are our senses telling us?
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5:44 - 5:47We do not have context.
We do not have anchor. -
5:47 - 5:52And we add another key to this:
misinformation becomes democratised. -
5:52 - 5:55Do you know where
this headline comes from? -
5:55 - 5:58From here, from a web that was only made
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5:58 - 6:02for you to transform
your false rumour into news. -
6:02 - 6:06Power used to misinform,
it was the one who was able to do it: -
6:06 - 6:09economic elites, governments,
-
6:09 - 6:11the big mass media, the church.
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6:12 - 6:16Now, with tools like this,
anyone can misinform. -
6:16 - 6:20And that is easier
and more dangerous every time. -
6:21 - 6:24Let's check why is that
these fakes news get made. -
6:24 - 6:27We have identified three reasons:
-
6:27 - 6:31the first one is just pure evil,
it's just mere enjoyment. -
6:31 - 6:34Creating fake news
just to see how far they go, -
6:34 - 6:36how many people
they are able to convince. -
6:36 - 6:39And there are situations
where this becomes harmful. -
6:40 - 6:42Do you remember Frida Sofía,
the 12 year old girl -
6:42 - 6:45who was found buried under tons of debris
of a Mexican high school? -
6:45 - 6:47A whole country looking for her.
-
6:47 - 6:50Mass media all over the world
were looking for her. -
6:50 - 6:53And it turned out
that the girl did not exist. -
6:53 - 6:55It was fake news.
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6:55 - 6:57It was news created
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6:57 - 7:01only for the purpose of generating chaos
in an emergency situation. -
7:01 - 7:03We have lived this in Spain.
-
7:03 - 7:06In the fires of Galicia
and Asturias in 2017, -
7:06 - 7:10when the fire was almost reaching
Vigo townhouses, -
7:10 - 7:12and suddenly,
a warning popped up on media: -
7:13 - 7:18"Tap water cannot be ingested.
It is not drinkable. It is contaminated." -
7:18 - 7:23This was quickly viralised on WhatsApp
and it ended up being a false warning. -
7:23 - 7:25And notice that, it was not the only one.
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7:25 - 7:28This is a map of some misinformation
that were viralised -
7:28 - 7:32in a single fire night where neighbours,
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7:32 - 7:34who were fighting against the fire,
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7:34 - 7:35also fought against the fear
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7:35 - 7:39that this misinformation
were spreading through their phones. -
7:39 - 7:41This is very dangerous
and I can tell you that -
7:41 - 7:45if you happen to do something like this,
we are watching you. -
7:45 - 7:49Let's go to the second reason:
money; to make income. -
7:49 - 7:54Because there are people that earn money
by making fake content. -
7:54 - 7:57During American elections,
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7:57 - 8:01in Macedonia, a group of activists
started making fake news. -
8:01 - 8:04They started making them against Trump
and Hillary Clinton -
8:04 - 8:08and, very quickly, they realised that news
against Trump were not making any money, -
8:08 - 8:10so they decided to go for
Hillary Clinton. -
8:10 - 8:12And it worked.
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8:12 - 8:14They earned thousands of euros.
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8:14 - 8:17In Spain there are web pages
that do something similar: -
8:17 - 8:21they generate fake content
for people to visit their website -
8:21 - 8:23and in doing so
they charge for publicity. -
8:23 - 8:26And they say in the legal ad
that they are satire, -
8:26 - 8:28they just do it for fun.
-
8:28 - 8:32Of course, sometimes they don't do it
to make fun out of it but to make money. -
8:33 - 8:35And there might be
a skeptic in the audience who says: -
8:35 - 8:39"And who are you to decide
what is satire and what is not? -
8:39 - 8:40Well we are none.
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8:40 - 8:44What we do is we only tell you
in the manuals about misinformation, -
8:44 - 8:48we have to look at the legal ad
from the web pages we read -
8:48 - 8:49before we believe them.
-
8:49 - 8:51We tell you with our technological tools
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8:51 - 8:54that you are getting access
to a satiric webpage, -
8:54 - 8:55through our extension
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8:55 - 8:59and we make sure citizens get informed
as much as possible -
8:59 - 9:00to avoid a strain of lies.
-
9:01 - 9:06And there is a third reason, which
I consider is the most dangerous: -
9:06 - 9:09the hoaxes made from ideologies.
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9:09 - 9:12The ones that are made
to distort our reality, -
9:12 - 9:14to create a particular state of opinion
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9:14 - 9:16that favours specific ideas.
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9:16 - 9:19We have lived this in Europe:
with Brexit, -
9:19 - 9:22with Cataluña, with the refugee crisis.
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9:22 - 9:27Who has not received a video
in the phone, an audio, an image, -
9:27 - 9:31a WhatsApp chain against immigration
in the last months? -
9:31 - 9:34These resent messages
between thousands of people, -
9:34 - 9:37sometimes look like they are reliable,
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9:37 - 9:39sometimes it is a headline and a picture,
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9:39 - 9:44but it does not have a source,
neither date nor anchor. -
9:45 - 9:47There are also headlines like this one:
-
9:47 - 9:51"A family welcomes a refugee
who rapes their 12 year old daughter." -
9:52 - 9:54This headline is fake.
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9:54 - 9:59The man was not a refugee
and it did not live with the family. -
9:59 - 10:03And, even though, to this day,
this headline is still out there -
10:03 - 10:09and people who have read it
associate refugee with a rapist. -
10:10 - 10:14This is the ecosystem where we are
and it is very dangerous. -
10:14 - 10:16I just want to say one thing:
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10:16 - 10:19If some time you do not have
something clear, do not share it. -
10:19 - 10:22It is the best advise
I can give you today. -
10:22 - 10:26We are in an environment where fake news
can go from being simple lies -
10:26 - 10:29to become beliefs.
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10:29 - 10:30Misinformation soaks through
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10:30 - 10:36and people stop believing
in scientific evidence, for instance. -
10:36 - 10:39We see this in Italy
with the anti-vaccine movement -
10:39 - 10:42that is winning the battle
with the vice-president as their leader. -
10:42 - 10:45We start believing that Earth is flat.
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10:45 - 10:49We start arguing
that man has not reached the moon yet. -
10:49 - 10:51We start drinking raw milk.
-
10:52 - 10:54But, how can we fight against this?
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10:54 - 10:56Well, legislation seems to be
a plausible solution. -
10:57 - 10:59There are some people who maintain
that a judge -
10:59 - 11:01or even a state dependent institution
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11:01 - 11:05is the one that should decide
what is truth and what is not. -
11:05 - 11:07We believe that this is not the way,
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11:07 - 11:10because the line between
an anti-hoax legislation -
11:10 - 11:14and censorship is excessively thin.
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11:14 - 11:16And we are not alone in this.
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11:16 - 11:17Experts from the European Commission,
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11:17 - 11:21a group of experts that set up months ago
where we are part of, -
11:21 - 11:23also believe we are not ready yet
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11:23 - 11:26to harshly legislate
against misinformation. -
11:26 - 11:30We do not know the phenomenon enough,
we need to keep studying it. -
11:30 - 11:33But we do have other tools
to fight against it. -
11:33 - 11:37For instance, with data
and fact journalism, -
11:37 - 11:40with early warning technology
against misinformation, -
11:40 - 11:44with the community,
with education and with you. -
11:44 - 11:48Because we need you to warn us
about possible misinformation -
11:48 - 11:50that is spreading in your networks.
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11:50 - 11:52Because we can't be everywhere,
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11:52 - 11:56even less during family chats
where more than once -
11:56 - 11:57you have spotted misinformation,
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11:57 - 12:02or in those closed Facebook groups where
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12:02 - 12:04memes of a right wing politician
are being posted, -
12:04 - 12:06or a meme of a left wing politician,
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12:06 - 12:09or from an actor or a historical figure,
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12:09 - 12:12which are tremendously problematic,
but do not have source or date. -
12:13 - 12:15When you give us that misinformation,
-
12:15 - 12:19our team works
with a very strict methodology. -
12:19 - 12:21What things are becoming more viralised?
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12:21 - 12:24This is the first thing
we are going to try to find out. -
12:24 - 12:26from that point on,
it is journalism duty: -
12:26 - 12:29pick up the phone, talk to the sources,
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12:29 - 12:32verify the pictures and find out
the origin of all the videos. -
12:32 - 12:36And when this job is done and
we already know if it is a hoax or not -
12:36 - 12:38the whole team has to audit the checker,
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12:38 - 12:42and ask questions to know whether
he or she has done a good job or not. -
12:43 - 12:45And then we vote.
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12:45 - 12:48There has to be a majority of votes
supporting that denial -
12:48 - 12:52and none against it
for us to make sure and be ready -
12:52 - 12:56to go out there and tell you
that something is fake. -
12:56 - 12:59And there we need you once again,
because it has to be you -
12:59 - 13:02the ones who will come back
to our WhatsApp and Facebook groups -
13:02 - 13:05and will tell your contacts that in fact,
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13:06 - 13:09that information is not true,
it is a hoax. -
13:09 - 13:14Journalism, technology,
community and education -
13:14 - 13:16are the keys to be victorious.
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13:16 - 13:18Not everything is lost.
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13:18 - 13:21The journalists who want to do
our jobs well, exist. -
13:22 - 13:23And we are the majority.
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13:23 - 13:26We know you do not trust us anymore,
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13:26 - 13:31because we have failed sometime,
and we ask for a lot of forgiveness. -
13:31 - 13:35But from this, from misinformation,
they will not deceit neither with hoaxes, -
13:35 - 13:38nor the executive,
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13:38 - 13:41we just get out there together,
citizens and journalists. -
13:41 - 13:46Because journalism is the best tool
to fight against deceiving. -
13:46 - 13:47Thanks for listening.
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13:47 - 13:51(Applause)
- Title:
- The whole truth about misinformation | Clara Jiménez | TEDxMadrid
- Description:
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We live in the age of hoaxes, every day we are exposed to a constant influx of information and misinformation, however, both look alike.
To differentiate them and get rid of what is called "fake news", Clara Jiménez and other journalists have created maldita.es, a nonprofit organisation who focuses on journalism investigation and visibility of this phenomenon. In her talk, she unmasks some of the common techniques that misinformants use and she teaches us how to avoid falling into their traps.Clara is cofounder of maldita.es, along with Julio Montes. It is an independent journalism project whose aim is to give citizens "the tools to fight against deceiving."
Clara has developed the majority of her professional career in Sexta channel, first of all in the informative services and later on in different programs like Debate Al Rojo Vivo, la Sexta Columna and la Sexta Noche. Between 2013 and 2018 she was a member of El Objectivo de Ana Pastor. She is also a member of the International Advisory Board Fact-Checking Network. She left la Sexta to dedicate her time to Maldita.es project and she collaborates in Julia program in Onda from Onda Cero and Gente Despierta from RNE.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- Spanish
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- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 14:04
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