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Charles Prober: Hi, I'm Charles Prober.
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Morgan Theis: I'm Morgan Theis.
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Charles Prover: Today
we're going to talk about
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the pathophysiology of tuberculosis,
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that is how tuberculosis
makes people sick.
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In this cartoon, there
is an infected individual
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shown on the left.
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That person is coughing or sneezing,
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and all those little small white dots
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are particles coming out
of the person's mouth.
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The person on the right is a nonsuspecting
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individual who is susceptible
to infection with TB.
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The person on the left, when they cough,
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if they have tuberculosis in their system,
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then some of those bacilli will cough out
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and enter the person they're coming into
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close contact with, enter in the droplets.
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Some portion of those infected droplets,
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estimated to be about
10%, go all the way down
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the susceptible individual's
airway and land in the lung.
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They have to be very, very small to get
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to the most distal portion of the lung
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called the alveoli.
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They have to be around 5
or 10 microns in diameter.
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Once those bacilli have
entered the person's lung,
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the host, the person's
immune system, kicks in
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at the local level.
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The first part of the immune
system to greet these bacilli
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are macrophages that
line the lung airways.
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These macrophages take up the bacilli
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and within the macrophages
the bacilli may reproduce,
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that is increase in numbers.
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The macrophage may then
release the bacilli.
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Other macrophages will pick them up,
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and eventually one has a number of cells
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in this distal part of the
lung that are infected.
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When these marcophages then come together
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and lung destruction occurs
in the mixture of this,
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they end up forming a
particular kind of lesion
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in the lung called a granuloma.
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A granuloma, which is often used
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in the context of TB
infections, it's also called
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a tuberculoma, are a group of macrophages
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and other inflammatory cells that are
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the reaction to this TB infection.
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Once that granuloma becomes large enough
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for one to see, so if a
pathologist is looking
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at the lung, that is called
a Gohn focus, G-O-H-N,
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of course named after somebody Dr. Gohn.
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After the local infection
in the macrophages
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occurs and the granuloma has been formed,
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if the infection is not
controlled in that local site,
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there is spillover of the
infection to the regional
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lymph nodes, so the
lymph nodes in the lung.
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Then those regional lymph
nodes have an immune reaction.
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The regional lymph nodes
plus the infected granuloma
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is referred to as a Gohn complex.
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This may be evident on a chest x-ray
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that a person has done either for routine
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basis or for whatever reason.
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A radiologist seeing this will say,
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"Oh, this looks like a previous
infection with tuberculosis."
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We'll show later an
example both of a granuloma
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and a Gohn complex on radiographs.
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All of this infection, the
person who's now infected,
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this is referred to as
a primary infection.
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The individual is infected
with tuberculosis.
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For many individuals,
that's the end of the story.
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The tuberculosis remains
in what is referred
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to as a latent state and remains latent
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for the person's entire life without
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causing any problem.
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Morgan Theis: Do they actually get rid
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of the bacteria entirely?
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Charles Prober: It's not
clear if the bacteria
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ever are completely killed or not.
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There is some evidence that, in fact,
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some do clear the bacteria, but from
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a clinical standpoint, one has to assume
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that once you've been
infected with tuberculosis,
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it's with you forever
and may cause subsequent
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problems, which we'll
speak about in a moment.
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For 90% of people, it's sort
of the story ends there.
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However, that leaves 10%.
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About half of that 10%,
so 5%, their primary
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infection is progressive, so they go on
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and they develop a problem shortly after
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they've been infected with tuberculosis.
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That problem may be represented as local
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progression of the infection, so that lung
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Gohn focus actually
becomes larger and larger,
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and they end up with
tuberculosis pneumonia,
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so pulmonary disease
caused by tuberculosis.
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Or, they may go on even beyond that.
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The infection may disseminate widely,
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go to many organs in the body,
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most especially the liver,
other parts of the lung,
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or even into the brain and other organs.
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That's about 5% of the patients that go on
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to have local progression
or dissemination.
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One pattern that's been
associated with this
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dissemination, and it's
not the only pattern,
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is when the infection
seeds multiple organs
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of the body with tiny little spots
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that are called "millets"
because they're so tiny,
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and this is referred to
as miliary tuberculosis.
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That's most often recognized in the lungs
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where you see these little tiny spots
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all over the lungs.
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That's one form of disseminated infection.
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That's primary infection and that's 5%.
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Now, an additional
5-10% of patients emerge
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from the latent state of the infection
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and they develop so-called
secondary disease.
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That represents a reactivation of a prior
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latent infection, or a
prior dormant infection.
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Again, it's estimated that about 5%
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of the total population
who've been infected
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go on and have this reactivation disease.
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Morgan Theis: Can that happen at any point
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during your life?
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Charles Prober: It can
happen at absolutely
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any point during your life;
either within several months
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of the infection or
many, many years later.
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That reactivation is referred
to, as you've written,
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secondary tuberculosis in contrast
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to primary infection; this
is secondary infection.
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The likelihood that
somebody may reactivate
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is actually influenced by many factors
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including the immune state of the host.
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That is, if the host, the
person who's got latent TB,
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has depressed immunity,
especially depressed
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cell mediated immunity, their likelihood
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of reactivating can be quite
high, relatively speaking.
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Some of the immune factors that are most
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recognized as causing an increased chance
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of reactivation are
co-infection with human
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immunodeficiency virus.
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That's a big one world-wide, HIV.
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Another is if the individual has received
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a transplant or is receiving chemotherapy
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for some other reason,
for example, cancer.
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Morgan Theis: For the
transplant, we're actually
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giving them immuno-suppresant medicine
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so they don't reject the transplant,
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so that puts them at risk.
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Charles Prober: That
knocks down their T-cells
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and then they have an increased risk.
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Then patients who abuse
drugs intravenously
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also are at an increased risk, quite
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a substantial increased risk.
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These groups together, each of them are
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a more than 10-fold risk over the general
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population of reactivation.
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There are other host
factors that also influence
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reactivation to a lesser extent.
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They may have a 2- or
3-fold increased chance
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of reactivation compared
to the general population.
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That would include patients
who are malnourished.
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It would include patients
who have diabetes.
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Even patients whose risk factor is only,
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and I shouldn't say
"only" perhaps, smoking.
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Those can all increase the chance
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of tuberculosis emerging from its latent
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or dormant state and becoming reactivated.
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Morgan Theis: What's the increase for HIV,
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transplant, IV drug use?
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Charles Prober: Probably about 10-fold,
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or at least 10-fold.
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Some of them are actually
estimated to be up
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to 70-fold, but certainly
greater than 10-fold.
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The final thing I'd like to say about
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secondary tuberculosis is
that much of it results
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from reactivated disease,
but you can also have
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secondary tuberculosis
because you get reinfected.
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That means that it's
not your own latent TB
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that's reactivated and
caused secondary disease,
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but you've been exposed
to yet another person
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infected with tuberculosis
and your secondary
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disease results from that reinfection,
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that new exposure.
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Morgan Theis: Then once
you get that new exposure
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or the reactivation of your own latent TB,
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then you can progress
sort of down the same
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pathway of symptoms, is that right?
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Charles Prober: Exactly.
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You can have local progression,
as you've indicated,
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or if you're severely
depressed immunologically,
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you may get more of the
disseminated infection,
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including the miliary
pattern and so forth.
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Just to end, I'd like to show
the two promised pictures.
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The picture that is
all pink is a zoomed in
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microscopic view of a granuloma.
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There are a couple of
features to point out.
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First of all, in the very
middle of this granuloma,
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is very pink, very homogeneous material
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that probably represents dead macrophages
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and other debris that have
eventually been reabsorbed
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and form this dense core.
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Sometimes that becomes calcified over time
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and that may show up on an x-ray,
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such as the x-ray picture we show here,
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as a calcified spot, a
white spot, in the lung.
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We'll come back to that.
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The other part of the
granuloma to point out
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is this inflammatory reaction occurring
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around that dense middle.
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All of the cells that
are shown in the blue
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are lymphocytes and
monocytes and macrophages,
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and this is the reaction to the infection
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with the tubercular bacilli.
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Sometimes this actually becomes quite
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necrotic in the center.
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It's not shown so much here.
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Then it's referred to as caseation
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because it becomes sort
of cottage cheese-like.
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The other picture, the
picture of the x-ray,
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shows the calcific granuloma.
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That would be, again,
the original granuloma,
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the Gohn focus, and it
also shows some swelling
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of the lymph nodes at
the edge of the heart.
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As previously mentioned,
this lymph node reaction
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along with that Gohn
focus, together make up
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the Gohn complex.
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That is evidence, radiographic evidence,
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that this individual has been previously
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infected with tuberculosis,
latently infected,
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at risk for subsequent reactivation.