Destructive leadership: the aftermath of the tempest | Rhonda M. Martin | TEDxSanAntonio
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0:14 - 0:16I love Sundays.
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0:16 - 0:21It's a time when I actually get a chance
to smell a cup of coffee - -
0:21 - 0:23hazelnut is my favorite.
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0:23 - 0:25I go on long bike rides with my friends,
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0:25 - 0:28and I spend the afternoon
hanging out with my family. -
0:28 - 0:31But there was a time when I hated Sundays.
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0:31 - 0:33In fact, I would stay in bed
as late as I could -
0:33 - 0:36in hopes it would delay
the upcoming Monday. -
0:36 - 0:39Granted, with five dogs,
the demands that they have, -
0:41 - 0:43I wouldn't be able to stay in bed long.
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0:43 - 0:46But when I did get up,
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0:46 - 0:51and throughout the day I would experience
a loss of appetite, high anxiety -
0:51 - 0:53when I even thought
about the upcoming workweek. -
0:53 - 0:56You see, I felt like I worked
in a combat zone, -
0:56 - 0:58where I would literally
experience verbal abuse, -
0:58 - 1:02and I would see my colleagues
leave the manager's office in tears. -
1:02 - 1:04And I witnessed spiteful gossip
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1:04 - 1:07that just tore apart the morale
in the workplace, -
1:08 - 1:12when all I desired was to be valued
and appreciated for my contributions. -
1:13 - 1:17Ladies and gentlemen, this was my life
working for destructive leaders -
1:17 - 1:19early in my professional career.
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1:20 - 1:22Now, many of us have probably worked
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1:22 - 1:25for constructive and/or destructive
leaders in our careers. -
1:25 - 1:28We can probably agree
that someone who is constructive, -
1:28 - 1:30they inspire, they have integrity,
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1:30 - 1:31they're ethical
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1:31 - 1:33and they empower followers.
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1:33 - 1:36Contrary to that
is your destructive leaders. -
1:36 - 1:38Let's put this into context.
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1:38 - 1:41This is not somebody
who's had an occasional bad day, -
1:41 - 1:43because I'm sure we've all had those.
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1:43 - 1:46But this is someone
who demonstrates destructive behaviors -
1:46 - 1:47that are purposefully meant
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1:47 - 1:51to harm the organization and employees
for their own personal gain. -
1:51 - 1:56These individuals are called
workplace bullies or abusive supervisors -
1:56 - 2:01because they belittle,
they manipulate, micromanage, -
2:01 - 2:03use coercion and condescension
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2:03 - 2:06to intimidate and control
their employees. -
2:07 - 2:09If you think about it,
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2:09 - 2:12bullying's become so pervasive
in our educational system -
2:12 - 2:15there are now campaigns
and laws to protect the victims. -
2:15 - 2:19So why is it not taken this serious
in our workplace today? -
2:21 - 2:22Shockingly,
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2:23 - 2:28destructive leaders will victimize
40 to 50% of the workforce, -
2:28 - 2:30and in doing so, they're going
to cost US corporations -
2:30 - 2:34in the upwards of $25 billion annually.
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2:36 - 2:39This is because of
legal fees, high turnover, -
2:39 - 2:41absenteeism and high medical claims
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2:41 - 2:44from employees who are
experiencing extreme anxiety, -
2:44 - 2:47high levels of stress and depression
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2:47 - 2:50because they worked
in a toxic work environment. -
2:51 - 2:54Come on, folks. We should be
outraged by these statistics. -
2:55 - 2:56I am and I was,
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2:56 - 2:58so I was inspired to do research,
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2:58 - 3:01and I conducted a study
where I interviewed millennials -
3:01 - 3:04who've worked for destructive
leaders in their careers. -
3:04 - 3:07And listening to their stories
during the interviews, -
3:07 - 3:10you can hear the pain in which they talked
about how they were called names -
3:10 - 3:12and ridiculed by their managers.
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3:12 - 3:16Their managers actually told them
that they needed to be controlled - -
3:16 - 3:19teams that resembled
functioning alcoholics, -
3:20 - 3:23fistfights that went on
during team meetings, -
3:24 - 3:28some who lied out of fear
but only became a comedy of errors, -
3:29 - 3:31and then some who lost
professional credibility. -
3:33 - 3:36This generation of followers
is greatly impacted -
3:36 - 3:38by destructive leaders.
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3:39 - 3:44And in our society, we are inundated
with news of leaders who are unethical, -
3:44 - 3:46who lie, steal and cheat,
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3:46 - 3:49with little to no consequences
for their behaviors. -
3:50 - 3:51This was confronted in my study
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3:51 - 3:55where the destructive leaders
who adversely impacted the followers -
3:55 - 3:58were not punished for their behavior,
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3:58 - 4:00but surprisingly they were promoted
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4:00 - 4:03because upper management
only considered the results, -
4:03 - 4:05with disregard for the means.
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4:06 - 4:09Most often, employees
will leave an organization -
4:09 - 4:12that does not address
the destructive behavior. -
4:12 - 4:16They find the names and faces
do change the new organizations, -
4:16 - 4:20but sadly, over time, they find
the destructive behaviors still exist. -
4:21 - 4:23Leaders are not successful on their own,
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4:23 - 4:26and according to Padilla,
Hogan and Keyser, -
4:26 - 4:29who are some accomplished
researchers in this space, -
4:29 - 4:33they found that destructive leaders
in particular are successful -
4:33 - 4:36when the organization and followers
enable their behaviors. -
4:36 - 4:39I'm intrigued by our society,
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4:39 - 4:43where we make excuses
for destructive behaviors. -
4:43 - 4:48We've heard these stories because
they've become common in our workforce -
4:48 - 4:51where "That guy, Johnny, he has a temper.
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4:51 - 4:53That's just the way he is,"
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4:54 - 5:00or "Suzy, she's very condescending,
but don't take it personal. Come on!" -
5:01 - 5:04Research does state
that those who are abused -
5:04 - 5:07will most likely become
an abuser in the future. -
5:07 - 5:10But I'm of the mindset that we actually
have a choice in the matter. -
5:10 - 5:12And as somebody who's worked
for destructive leaders, -
5:12 - 5:15I made a decision not to become
the product of my environment, -
5:15 - 5:19but I chose to be a constructive leader
and a courageous follower in my career. -
5:21 - 5:22Now, we can probably agree
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5:22 - 5:26that the field of leadership
is a billion-dollar industry, right? -
5:26 - 5:28Think about it.
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5:28 - 5:33We are reading books or taking seminars
and classes on how to become leaders, -
5:34 - 5:37but I believe we've missed
one vital step in this process. -
5:38 - 5:42To teach somebody to be a leader
before you teach them how to be a follower -
5:42 - 5:46is no different than expecting somebody
to run before they can walk. -
5:46 - 5:49I witnessed this firsthand
on a trip to Peru -
5:50 - 5:53where I was teaching a team-building class
to business professionals, -
5:53 - 5:58college students, universities
and small communities. -
5:58 - 6:00The organization that sponsored this trip
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6:00 - 6:03had developed a relationship
with a group of underprivileged women -
6:03 - 6:06who were being taught
how to be leaders in their communities. -
6:06 - 6:08And they were very successful
as individuals, -
6:08 - 6:10and they wanted to start
a bakery together. -
6:11 - 6:13But in doing so,
they were failing miserably, -
6:13 - 6:15and they didn't understand why.
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6:15 - 6:19As I observed their disagreements,
it was always over the leadership position -
6:19 - 6:24because in their culture,
a follower was considered insignificant. -
6:24 - 6:26They didn't understand
the vital role of being a follower -
6:26 - 6:28in a team effort.
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6:28 - 6:30It was through continued
team-building exercises -
6:30 - 6:32and followership training
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6:32 - 6:36that helped them understand
the role of the follower. -
6:36 - 6:40And they were successful -
today in as far as a bakery. -
6:41 - 6:44I share this story to demonstrate
that, as a society, -
6:44 - 6:47we have not prepared
our future generation of leaders -
6:47 - 6:50because we neglected to teach them
how to be great followers. -
6:51 - 6:53I understand there's this stigma
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6:53 - 6:56that someone who's a follower
is passive and subservient, -
6:56 - 6:59and they're not ever
going to make a good leader. -
6:59 - 7:00But according to Ira Chaleff,
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7:00 - 7:03there are two key facts
to remember about followership. -
7:03 - 7:05One:
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7:05 - 7:08it is a role, and not
someone's personality. -
7:09 - 7:10Two:
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7:10 - 7:13the follower's not there
to serve the leader, -
7:13 - 7:15but they're both there
to serve a common purpose. -
7:17 - 7:22Research and education
on followership is quite nascent, -
7:22 - 7:25considering the many years
we've studied leadership. -
7:25 - 7:29And we've studied some great leaders,
who've also been great followers - -
7:29 - 7:31for instance:
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7:31 - 7:37Aristotle, Thomas Jefferson,
Indra Nooyi, Mary Barra and Tim Cook. -
7:39 - 7:44By 2018, 40% of the workforce
will be the millennial generation, -
7:44 - 7:48and we have not prepared them to be active
and courageous followers in their careers. -
7:49 - 7:51What is a courageous follower?
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7:51 - 7:53According to Chaleff,
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7:53 - 7:56a courageous follower is somebody
who has the courage to serve, -
7:57 - 7:59to challenge,
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8:00 - 8:02participate in transformation,
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8:04 - 8:06take moral action,
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8:06 - 8:08and the courage to speak up to leadership.
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8:09 - 8:12Ladies and gentleman,
I have three challenges for you today. -
8:12 - 8:14The first challenge is to become educated
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8:14 - 8:16and understand the types
of destructive behaviors -
8:16 - 8:19and decide how those
are going to be addressed -
8:19 - 8:20within your organizations today.
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8:21 - 8:26The high turnover of employees
is costing more in the long term -
8:26 - 8:28than to remove that destructive leader.
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8:29 - 8:30Think about it.
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8:30 - 8:33I find it hard to believe that anybody
in this audience today -
8:33 - 8:36would be excited
to work for a bully every day. -
8:37 - 8:40The second challenge goes out
to the millennials in the audience. -
8:41 - 8:42Do you want to be the generation
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8:42 - 8:48that makes a positive significant impact
in our society today? -
8:49 - 8:52I challenge you to take responsibility
in your role as a follower, -
8:52 - 8:56and be a great follower
who will in turn be a great leader. -
8:56 - 9:00And in doing so, we will minimize
the number of destructive leaders -
9:00 - 9:02in our society today.
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9:04 - 9:06And my final challenge goes out to those
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9:06 - 9:10who are currently serving
as leaders in organizations. -
9:10 - 9:13It is time to take followership seriously
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9:14 - 9:17and to educate people
on how to be successful in this role. -
9:17 - 9:23Today, the Naval Academy, Microsoft,
Google and many Ivy League schools -
9:23 - 9:25are doing just that.
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9:25 - 9:29They're educating employees
and students on followership. -
9:30 - 9:35So I ask: why does your organization
not embrace followership today? -
9:35 - 9:36Thank you.
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9:36 - 9:38(Applause)
- Title:
- Destructive leadership: the aftermath of the tempest | Rhonda M. Martin | TEDxSanAntonio
- Description:
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A healthy leader–follower relationship relies on trust, respect, competency and commitment to the organization. A leader has the power to influence and shape the employee’s job experience and the organizational culture. Destructive leaders, however, abuse their power by using coercion to manipulate for personal gain, and employ fear as a motivator. The negative impacts of a leader’s destructive behaviors are detrimental and painful to the followers in an organization, and the long-term impact on corporate culture can be costly. Followers are pivotal to the success of good and bad leaders.
In Dr. Martin’s study on the millennial generation as followers, she found they were adversely affected by destructive leaders. Specifically, they felt devalued, participated in unethical behavior induced by fear, lost faith in the organization because it implicitly condoned leaders’ bad behaviors, or chose to retaliate against these leaders. Destructive leadership will perpetuate until followers and organizations stop enabling the destructive behaviors and take action by educating, training, and empowering the workforce to be active participants.
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