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Improving our neuroplasticity | Dr. Kelly Lambert | TEDxBermuda

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    It is such a wonderful experience
    to be here in beautiful Bermuda!
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    Thanks for coming out today.
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    Like most of you,
    we don't get a lot of downtimes,
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    but when I get some downtime,
    I really love to read a mystery.
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    It seems that our brains,
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    our human brains with all
    of our complex circuits,
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    are uniquely designed to put
    the pieces of the puzzle together
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    and to solve mysteries.
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    But one mystery that's really
    been troubling me lately
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    is the mystery of why,
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    in the midst of a multibillion-dollar
    antidepressant industry,
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    depression rates continue to go up.
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    About 300 million people across
    the world today experience depression.
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    And this isn't good, we need
    to do better; it's unacceptable.
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    It makes us think that maybe
    there're some other suspects,
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    some other clues where
    we can get some information
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    about how to come to the solution
    and solve this mystery of depression.
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    Well, one area where we spend
    a lot of time looking for clues
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    is neurochemistry.
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    This makes perfect sense
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    because our brains
    are swimming in neurochemicals:
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    dopamine, serotonin,
    acetylcholine, glutamate.
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    And they have a huge impact on
    our behaviors, emotions, and thoughts.
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    So it makes perfect sense to think
    that we could take a pill
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    that could change our neurochemistry
    in ways that would make us feel better
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    to be emotionally resilient.
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    But there are challenges with this
    because it's hard to mimic Nature,
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    in that, if there is an imbalance that is
    associated with something like depression,
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    how do we make it take-a-pill
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    and change the neurochemistry
    in these natural ways?
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    So it's not very precise,
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    and, unfortunately, it doesn't reliably
    help everyone who has depression.
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    So it makes us think there're some
    other clues and suspects out there.
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    So being a neuroscientist,
    when I go back to the drawing board -
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    that drawing board is a brain -
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    and I want it to be,
    as I tell my students,
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    "let's be brain whisperers of a sort
    and see what is important to the brain,"
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    what really stands out to me
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    is how our brains seem
    to be designed and evolved
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    to move our bodies around.
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    We like to think that our brains
    are about thinking,
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    but movement is an incredibly
    important behavior.
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    If we think about the cerebellum
    hanging off the back of our brains,
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    it contains about 80%
    of our brain's neurons.
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    Eighty percent!
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    Anf what does a cerebellum do?
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    Well, a lot of things,
    but it's most noted
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    for its role in controlling
    our motor coordination
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    and the areas around the center
    of the brain called the "striatum"
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    also involved in coordinating
    and facilitating our movement.
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    In fact, individuals who have
    Parkinson's or Huntington's disease
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    have some impairment of this system.
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    Then going from the middle
    of our brain down to our ear
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    is the motor cortex which is involved
    in moving the specific muscles
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    that are important for us
    to initiate and carry out
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    that behavior we want to carry out.
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    And if you look at the proportion
    of that motor cortex
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    and the muscles that it's
    coordinating and controlling,
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    the area that controls
    the hand is just proportionally large.
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    It seems like Nature is telling us,
    "Movement is incredibly important."
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    And movement of our hands
    is also very important.
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    And if that's true,
    what would happen if say,
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    we decided that we weren't
    going to move around as much?
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    Maybe we're going to spend a lot
    of time sitting down in front of screens.
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    Would that have some impact
    on our brains? Maybe so.
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    And it's interesting to think
    over the past century
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    just how much our lifestyle has changed.
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    It's about a hundred years ago -
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    well, over these hundred years -
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    but it is hard to believe
    that in just 1939,
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    the New York Times ran
    an article about this invention
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    that was revealed at the World's Fair.
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    It was called "television".
    It was really a "neat thing," they said.
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    But they said it will never be more
    popular than the radio
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    because "what family has time
    to sit in front of a TV
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    in the evenings and not use
    their hands to do work?"
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    Wow! Things have really changed
    over the last century
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    and past generations.
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    When I think about my own childhood,
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    driving back to Talladega, Alabama,
    to see my grandparents,
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    I have vivid memories of how busy,
    especially my grandmother was.
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    After working in a factory,
    her downtime was spent
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    shelling peas or shucking corn or snapping
    green beans on that front porch,
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    only to be followed by freezing
    and canning and preparing that food
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    so that in the winter
    when she would bring that food out
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    and prepare these wonderful
    Sunday dinners,
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    I saw the pride on her face
    because now, thinking back,
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    she had to bring up these memories
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    of the role she played
    in providing that food for her family.
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    And it really made me see this pride.
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    And if someone was sick
    in her community,
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    I remember her saying -
    I'm from Alabama -
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    "Bless her heart! She couldn't
    have her own garden,
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    so I'm going to take her these vegetables,
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    so at least she can prepare
    them for the winter."
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    Wow! how things have changed!
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    I'm beginning to think
    that maybe when we traded in
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    our spears and our clubs
    for selfie sticks,
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    that maybe we've traded in
    something really important for our brain.
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    And what if our cultural
    contemporary ideas
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    of prosperity in which we work really hard
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    to make enough money
    to pay people to do the things
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    our grandparents and ancestors
    used to do very well for themselves,
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    maybe that doesn't match
    our brain's idea of prosperity,
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    and maybe that mismatch
    could lead to some contribution
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    to psychiatric illness, these high rates
    that we're seeing today.
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    In fact, our ancestors' dependence
    on their hands
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    in interacting with the environment
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    to provide the resources
    just to live for that day,
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    might have been the original Prozac,
    the prehistoric Prozac,
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    that perhaps we need to remember.
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    But this idea isn't new.
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    Charles Darwin,
    who was the great naturalist,
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    wrote that he had a lot of angst
    when he was dealing and writing
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    and musing about
    this idea of natural selection
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    and how controversial it was,
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    and the impact it would have
    on his family and friends
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    and their ideas about religion
    and the origin of our species.
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    And he said that, when he would
    walk around his property,
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    and there was a path
    called "the thinking path",
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    that it would calm his nerves.
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    He would put a rock at the gate,
    and he would have his walking stick,
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    and when he would walk around
    that path he would knock that rock off
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    to signify the effort that he had made.
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    And if it was an especially
    stressful day, he'd put two rocks.
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    And in an even more, he might
    have a three-rock walk,
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    and he would have to walk three times
    and knock that stone over.
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    Well, he wasn't just realizing
    that his behavior was important
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    in regulating his emotions,
    but he was even dosing himself
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    whether or not he was going to have
    one walk, two walks, or three walks a day.
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    So this idea of behavior,
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    he saw that it was important
    for regulating his mental health.
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    And in the days when cake mixes came out,
    mostly women making the cakes those days,
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    the first cake mix had everything
    you needed to make the cake.
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    You just needed to pour
    the batter in the pan,
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    but some very smart manufacturers noticed
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    that women didn't take
    as much pride in their cakes
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    if they didn't have a little
    skin in the game.
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    So, they didn't have to,
    but they took the egg and water,
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    so you would have to add
    the egg and the water.
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    They get a bit more effort and
    people were more proud of the cake.
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    (Laughter)
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    So, thinking that behavior
    is important for our mental health,
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    and that we can change our
    neurochemistry through behavior
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    as our ancestors have,
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    caused me to think about a new word,
    a word I just made up:
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    "Behaviorceuticles."
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    We can change our neurochemistry
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    by taking a pill that will alter
    our neurochemistry,
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    or maybe we can change
    our neurochemistry strategically
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    by engaging in smart behaviors
    that will change it in more healthy ways.
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    Well, I was reading that,
    about a hundred years ago,
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    doctors used to prescribe knitting
    to women in those days,
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    that they described
    as "overwrought" with anxiety.
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    They didn't know why, but they saw
    that it calmed their nerves,
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    kind of like Darwin.
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    Knowing now what we know about
    neuroscience, this makes perfect sense.
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    Serotonin is increased when
    we're engaged in repetitive behavior.
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    And knitting and making the stitches
    is an example of repetitive behavior.
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    As the knitter is thinking about
    that beautiful scarf or hat,
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    that she or he is making,
    that increases dopamine.
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    It's known as the pleasure
    neurochemical of the brain,
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    but it's mostly involved
    with anticipation,
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    looking forward to something.
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    And as you think about the stitches
    instead of the worries of the day,
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    that probably calms
    and reduces stress hormones.
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    And if there was one neurochemical
    that probably is a culprit, a suspect,
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    in a lot of the mysteries related to
    mental health, it's the stress hormones,
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    cortisol for example.
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    About 50% of everyone diagnosed
    with depression has high cortisol levels.
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    So anything we can do
    to decrease the stress hormones
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    is an important endeavor.
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    And if we're knitting
    in the company of friends,
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    then that may increase oxytocin,
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    and oxytocin is known
    as the cuddle chemical,
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    but it's important in fostering
    positive relationships,
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    and also probably reduces stress.
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    So here you go, a behaviorceutical
    with one activity of knitting.
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    It may be cooking or
    woodworking or gardening,
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    but something that's reminding you
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    that the result of your physical
    effort is some reward.
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    So, I'm a neuroscientist, so
    we want to go back to the brain.
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    Remember the drawing board here.
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    And I was fascinated to see
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    that the area of the brain
    that is involved in reward,
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    that is impacted in depression -
    lack of feeling that reward -
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    is the nucleus accumbens,
    kind of lower in the brain.
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    It has rich connections to that area
    of the brain involved in movement
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    called "the striatum".
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    And those areas have indirect
    and direct connections
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    to the frontal cortex that is involved
    in our decision making and planning.
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    The more that we engage in behaviors
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    where we can see
    the result of our effort,
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    those circuits are consolidating
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    so that, as we go forward
    for the next challenge in our lives,
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    we have a little experiential
    capital to bring with us,
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    to remind us that what we do
    can make a difference.
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    We did produce that scarf,
    we made that cake,
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    we walked around the thinking path.
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    I work with rats for a living.
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    These are my colleagues
    and they outsmart me all the time.
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    As a scientist, we need evidence,
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    so all of that theorizing
    about our ancient humans
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    and ideas about depression
    started to make sense but,
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    I wanted to take this to the lab.
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    A lot of friends, people
    who find out what I do,
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    they ask, "But what can you
    learn about our brains,
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    our fancy-schmancy brains,
    by looking at this very simplistic brain?"
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    Well, it is true that it's small -
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    it's 2 grams compared
    to our about 1400-gram brain -
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    but it has all the same parts,
    all the same neurochemicals,
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    and if I showed you a neuron,
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    that individual cell in a human
    brain versus a rat brain,
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    you wouldn't be able
    to tell the difference.
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    So it's a wonderful model to start with.
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    I realize that a rat is not a little
    human, and we are not a big rat,
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    but it's a good model -
    well, some of us maybe. (Laughter)
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    So, when I was thinking
    about putting these rats to work -
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    I'm thinking about this idea about work
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    and producing products
    that we're proud of -
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    I needed something
    the rats would work for,
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    and our rats love Froot Loops.
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    So, we had to get them
    addicted to Froot Loops.
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    Then I needed a task, and I thought
    back of my grandmother's garden.
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    And I wanted them to harvest something.
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    So we came up with a task where
    they would harvest Froot Loops,
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    not fruit or vegetables,
    but they would dig up Froot Loops.
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    So they have this arena and we move
    around these mounds of bedding
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    and they were trained so that they
    would see a mound and gently dig
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    and voilà! there's a Froot Loop.
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    And they had an opportunity
    to get four of those every day.
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    So it is not intensive training,
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    it's about five or ten minutes
    a day for about six weeks,
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    but they're building those connections
    between the reward areas of the brain
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    and the motor movement areas of the brain
    to produce effort-based rewards.
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    Well, for proper science
    you need a control group
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    to compare to this experimental group.
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    So, our control group was a group
    that we put in the same arena,
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    and we gave them Froot Loops
    regardless of what they did.
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    So my students like to call,
    the experimental group,
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    where their reward was contingent
    upon their behavior,
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    "The worker rats,"
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    and the rats that got
    the reward no matter what -
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    there wasn't a contingency there -
    "The trust-fund rats."
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    So we have the worker rats
    and the trust-fund rats. (Laughter)
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    So we've done several studies -
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    I see you can relate
    to that a little bit -
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    where we wanted to put
    our worker rats to the test,
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    to see if this effort-based reward
    training generalized to other things.
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    So we like to expose them
    to new challenges,
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    like swimming - they've been in a lab,
    they've never been in water.
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    Well, the effort-based reward worker rats
    are more likely to dive down,
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    like little rats scuba divers,
    to explore the environment.
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    They showed more evidence
    of effective coping.
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    And when we look at their brains,
    I think brains are gorgeous here,
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    they show more evidence
    of neuroplasticity,
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    that fertilizer, brain-derived
    neurotrophic factor,
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    more complex connections with the neurons.
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    So, we see this neuroplasticity.
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    For the interventions
    and therapeutic approaches
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    that we have currently for depression,
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    most of those directly or
    indirectly increase neuroplasticity,
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    but here we're doing it naturally.
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    But that was with training.
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    We wanted another way
    to stimulate effort-based rewards
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    that was more spontaneous.
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    So, we've known for a while
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    that if you put a rat
    an exciting and engaging world,
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    something called "enriched environment,"
    kind of a Disneyland of sorts,
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    they're busier and they
    have more neuroplasticity
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    and it seems to be great for their brains.
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    So we did this.
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    We also look at artificial
    kind of manufactured stimuli,
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    and more natural stimuli.
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    So, we have our country rats
    and our city rats.
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    They seem to be equally smart,
    but our country rats
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    seem to have an edge
    on emotional resilience.
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    So, they are more like
    those effort-based reward rats
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    that will go out, the bold ones.
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    And also, with our effort-based reward
    rats, we see lower stress hormones
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    and higher hormones of resilience,
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    and remember we said
    that was important for mental health.
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    Interestingly, we also found
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    that when we have a group
    of rats in an enriched environment
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    and a group of rats
    in just a standard environment,
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    they do things more together, not only
    engaging with their environment,
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    but through cooperation.
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    So, we've actually shown that their
    oxytocin that we talked about increases
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    when they're engaged
    in these natural enriched environments
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    doing things together.
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    And that's important
    for our "behaviorceutical" cocktail.
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    This doesn't surprise me,
    because recently in Denmark,
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    they showed that humans -
    they followed about a million -
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    who grew up in a household
    with more green around it, shrubs, trees,
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    were up to 55% less likely
    to experience depression in their lives.
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    If we could bottle that,
    that would be amazing.
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    So, where does that leave us?
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    We're not going to go back to the cave
    or to being hunters and gatherers.
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    We're here in this advanced
    technologically rich world,
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    and we benefit in many ways from that,
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    but looking back at what we know
    about our ancestors and the brain,
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    and my wise rats, I think it reminds us
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    that we need to remember
    our evolutionary roots
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    as we go forward
    in this world of technology
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    and have a little bit
    of those effort-based rewards,
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    especially if it's related
    to Nature in some way,
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    to help us with our mental health.
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    I had an experience
    where I got to put this to the test
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    to see if an engaged enriched environment
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    would allow the rats
    to show healthier brains,
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    and I had a colleague who asked me,
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    "Kelly, can you teach
    a rat to drive a car?"
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    I thought "why would I want
    to do that? That's not natural."
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    This goes against everything I thought,
    but we drive cars and before I knew it,
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    we were talking about
    how you'd get a rat to drive a car,
  • 17:37 - 17:39
    and how you'd shape it to go in.
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    We decided that we'd grab
    the little copper bars,
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    and of course, they would be
    driving to a Froot Loops tree.
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    That's their drive-in.
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    If you've ever wondered if you
    can teach a rat to drive a car,
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    yes, you can.
  • 17:50 - 17:52
    Not only can they drive,
    but they can steer,
  • 17:52 - 17:55
    they're autocorrecting, right?
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    This blew my mind, but
    more relevant for this story
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    is when we looked at rats that were
    in an enriched environment
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    versus the standard environment.
  • 18:06 - 18:12
    The rats in the enriched environment, when
    we took them through the ropes of driving
  • 18:12 - 18:15
    to see how long it would take
    them to learn to drive,
  • 18:15 - 18:19
    the criterion for robust driving,
    they learned in 22 trials.
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    The standard rats, we don't
    know how long it would take,
  • 18:24 - 18:26
    they never really learned to drive.
  • 18:26 - 18:29
    This blew our minds
    that the enriched environment
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    made our rats better
    learners of technology.
  • 18:35 - 18:40
    So, we think that our enriched rats
    would get their driver's license,
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    but not so much for the rodents,
    they would be denied.
  • 18:44 - 18:46
    (Laughter)
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    So, as we think about our brains
    and what they evolved to do,
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    the idea of taking a single pill
    and being able to replicate
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    what goes on in our brains naturally
    seems just about as unreasonable
  • 18:58 - 19:02
    as thinking that we could take
    a pill to be a better parent.
  • 19:02 - 19:05
    You just can't do that,
    you have to go through the ropes.
  • 19:05 - 19:08
    You have to have
    those experiences to go forward.
  • 19:08 - 19:12
    You have to have the behavior
    that leads to "behaviorceuticals"
  • 19:12 - 19:14
    to change the neurochemistry
    in healthy ways.
  • 19:14 - 19:17
    So, I started with a mystery,
    what's going on with our brains?
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    why are these rates increasing?
  • 19:19 - 19:22
    And looking back and thinking
    about how our behavior can change
  • 19:22 - 19:26
    not only our neurochemistry
    but our neuroanatomy,
  • 19:26 - 19:30
    I think that the solution and clues
    may have been in our hands all along.
  • 19:31 - 19:32
    Thank you.
  • 19:32 - 19:34
    (Applause)
Title:
Improving our neuroplasticity | Dr. Kelly Lambert | TEDxBermuda
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Dr. Lambert’s award-winning work and research at the University of Richmond focuses on experience-based neuroplasticity using rodent, raccoon, and non-human primate models. She has written two neuroscience textbooks and three mainstream books including the most recent, "Well-Grounded: The neurobiology of rational decisions."

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