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What is up with us white people?
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(Laughter)
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I've been thinking about that a lot
the last few years,
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and I know I have company.
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Look, I get it, people of color
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have been asking
that question for centuries,
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but I think a growing number
of white folks are too,
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given what's been going on out there
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in our country.
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And notice I said,
"What's up with us white people?"
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because right now I'm not talking
about those white people,
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the ones with the swastikas
and the hoods and the tiki torches.
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They are a problem, and a threat.
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They perpetrate most of
the terrorism in our country,
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as you all in Charlottesville
know better than most.
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But I'm talking about something bigger,
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more pervasive.
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I'm talking about all of us,
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white folks writ large.
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And maybe, especially,
people sort of like me,
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self-described progressive,
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don't want to be racist,
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"good" white people.
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(Laughter)
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Any good white people in the room?
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(Laughter)
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I was raised to be that sort of person.
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I was a little kid in the '60s and '70s,
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and to give you some sense of my parents,
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actual public opinion polls at the time
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showed that only a small minority,
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about 20 percent of white Americans,
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approved and supported
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Martin Luther King and his work
with the Civil Rights Movement
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while Dr. King was still alive.
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I'm proud to say my parents
were in that group.
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Race got talked about in our house,
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and when the shows that dealt
with race would come on the television,
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they would sit us kids down,
make sure we watch:
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the Sidney Poitier movies, "Roots."
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The message was loud and clear,
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and I got it.
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Racism is wrong. Racists are bad people.
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At the same time,
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we lived in a very
white place in Minnesota,
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and I'll just speak for myself,
I think that allowed me to believe
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that those white racists on the TV screen
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were being beamed in
from some other place.
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It wasn't about us, really.
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I did not feel implicated.
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Now, I would say I'm still in recovery
from that early impression.
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I got into journalism
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in part because I cared about things
like equality and justice.
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For a long time, racism was just
such a puzzle to me.
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Why is it still with us
when it's so clearly wrong?
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Why such a persistent force?
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Maybe I was puzzled because
I wasn't yet looking in the right place
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or asking the right questions.
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Have you noticed
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that when people in our mostly white media
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report on what they consider
to be racial issues,
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what we consider to be racial issues,
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what that usually means
is that we're pointing our cameras
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and our microphones and our gaze
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at people of color, asking questions like,
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"How are Black folks or Native Americans,
Latino, or Asian Americans,
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how are they doing?"
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In a given community,
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or with respect to some issue:
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the economy, education.
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I've done my share
of that kind of journalism
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over many years.
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But then George Zimmerman
killed Trayvon Martin,
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followed by this unending string
of high-profile police shootings
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of unarmed Black people, the rise
of the Black Lives Matter movement,
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Dylann Roof and the Charleston Massacre,
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#OscarsSoWhite,
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all the incidents from the day to day
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of American life,
these overtly racist incidents
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that we now get to see
because they're captured on smartphones
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and sent across the internet.
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And beneath those visible events,
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the stubborn data,
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the studies showing systemic racism
in every institution we have:
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housing segregation, job discrimination,
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the deeply racialized inequities in
our schools and criminal justice system.
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And what really did it for me,
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and I know I'm not alone in this either,
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the rise of Donald Trump
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and the discovery that
a solid majority of white Americans
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would embrace or at least accept
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such a raw, bitter kind
of white identity politics.
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This was all disturbing to me
as a human being.
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As a journalist, I found myself
turning the lens around,
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thinking,
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wow, white folks are the story.
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Whiteness is a story.
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And also thinking,
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can I do that?
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What would a podcast series
about whiteness sound like?
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And oh, by the way,
this could get uncomfortable.
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I had seen almost no journalism
that looked deeply at whiteness,
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but of course people of color
and especially Black intellectuals
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have made sharp critiques of
white supremacist culture for centuries,
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and I knew that in the last
two or three decades,
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scholars had done interesting work
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looking at race through
the frame of whiteness,
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what it is, how we got it,
how it works in the world.
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I started reading,
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and I reached out to some leading experts
on race and the history of race.
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One of the first questions I asked was,
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where did this idea
of being a white person
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come from in the first place?
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Science is clear.
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We are one human race.
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We're all related,
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all descended from
a common ancestor in Africa.
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Some people walked out of Africa
into colder, darker places
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and lost a lot of their melanin,
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some of us more than others.
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But genetically we are all
99.9 percent the same.
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There's more genetic diversity
within what we call racial groups
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than there is between racial groups.
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There's no gene for whiteness
or blackness or Asian-ness
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or what half you.
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So how did this happen?
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How did we get this thing?
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How did racism start?
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I think if you had asked me
to speculate on that,
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in my ignorance, some years ago,
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I probably would have said,
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well, I guess somewhere
back in deep history,
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people encountered one another,
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and they found each other strange,
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your skin is a different color,
your hair is different,
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you dress funny.
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I guess I'll just go ahead
and jump to the conclusion
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that since you're different
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that you're somehow less than me,
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and maybe that makes it OK
for me to mistreat you.
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Right?
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Is that something like
what we imagine or assume?
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And under that kind of scenario,
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it's all a big tragic misunderstanding.
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But it seems that's wrong.
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First of all, race is a recent invention.
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It's just a few hundred years old.
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Before that, yes,
people divided themselves
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by religion, tribal group,
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language, things like that,
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but for most of human history,
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people had no notion of race.
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In Ancient Greece, for example,
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and I learned this from
the historian Nell Irvin Painter,
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the Greeks thought they were better
than the other people they knew about,
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but not because of some idea
that they were innately superior.
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They just thought that they'd developed
the most advanced culture.
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So they looked around at the Ethiopians,
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but also the Persians and the Celts,
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and they said, "They're all
kind of barbaric compared to us.
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Culturally, they're
just not Greek, right?"
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And yes, in the ancient world,
there was lots of slavery,
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but people enslaved people
who didn't look like them
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and they often enslaved people who did.
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Did you know that the English word "slave"
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is derived from the word "Slav"?
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Because Slavic people were enslaved
by all kinds of folks,
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including Western Europeans,
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for centuries.
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Slavery wasn't about race,
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either because no one
had thought up race yet.
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So who did?
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I put that question
to another leading historian,
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Ibram Kendi.
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I didn't expect he would answer
the question in the form
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of one person's name and a date,
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as if we were talking
about the light bulb.
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(Laughter)
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But he did.
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(Laughter)
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He said, in his exhaustive research
he found what he believed to be
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the first articulation of racist ideas,
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and he named the culprit.
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This guy should be more famous,
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or infamous.
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His name is Gomes de Zurara.
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Portuguese man.
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Wrote a book in the 1450s
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in which he did something
that no one had ever done before,
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according to Dr. Kendi.
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He lumped together
all the people of Africa,
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a vast, diverse continent,
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and he described them as a distinct group,
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inferior and beastly.
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Never mind that in that precolonial time
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some of the most sophisticated cultures
in the world were in Africa.
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Why would this guy make this claim?
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Turns out, it helps to follow the money.
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First of all, Zurara was hired
to write that book
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by the Portuguese king,
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and just a few years before,
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slave traders,
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here we go,
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slave traders tied to the Portuguese crown
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had effectively pioneered
the Atlantic slave trade.
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They were the first Europeans
to sail directly to sub-Saharan Africa
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to kidnap and enslave African people.
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So it was suddenly really helpful
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to have a story about the inferiority
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of African people
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to justify this new trade
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to other people, to the church,
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to themselves.
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And with the stroke of a pen,
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Zurara invented both
blackness and whiteness,
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because he basically created
the notion of blackness
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through this description of Africans,
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and as Dr. Kendi says,
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blackness has no meaning
without whiteness.
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Other European countries followed
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the Portuguese lead
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in looking to Africa for human property
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and free labor
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and in adopting this fiction
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about the inferiority of African people.
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I found this clarifying.
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Racism didn't start
with a misunderstanding,
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it started with a lie.
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Meanwhile, over here in colonial America,
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the people now calling themselves white
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got busy taking these racist ideas
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and turning them into law,
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laws that stripped all human rights
from the people they were calling Black
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and locking them into our particularly
vicious brand of child slavery,
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and laws that gave even
the poorest white people benefits,
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not big benefits in material terms
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but the right to not be enslaved for life,
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the right to not have your loved ones
torn from your arms and sold,
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and sometimes real goodies.
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The handouts of free land
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to white places like Virginia
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to white people only
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started long before
the American Revolution
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and continued long after.
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Now I can imagine
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there would be people listening to me,
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if they're still listening,
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who might be thinking,
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"C'mon, this is all ancient history,
why does this matter.
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Things have changed.
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Can't we just get over it and move on?"
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But I would argue,
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for me certainly,
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learning this history has brought
a real shift in the way
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that I understand racism today.
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To review, two quick takeaways
from what I've said so far.
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One: race is not a thing biologically,
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it's a story some people decided to tell.
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And two: people told that story
to justify the brutal exploitation
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of other human beings for profit.
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I didn't learn those two facts in school.
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I suspect most of us didn't.
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If you did, you had a special teacher.
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Right?
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But once they sink in,
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for one thing, it becomes clear
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that racism is not mainly
a problem of attitudes,
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of individual bigotry.
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No, it's a tool.
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It's a tool to divide us
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and to prop up systems,
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economic, political and social systems
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that advantage some people
and disadvantage others.
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And it's a tool to convince
a lot of white folks
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who may or may not be getting a great deal
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out of our highly stratified society
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to support the status quo.
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"Could be worse. At least I'm white."
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Once I grasped the origins of racism,
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I stopped being mystified by the fact
that it's still with us.
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I guess looking back
I thought about racism
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as being sort of like the flat Earth,
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just bad, outdated thinking
that would fade away on its own
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before long.
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But no, this tool of whiteness
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is still doing the job
it was invented to do.
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Powerful people go to work every day,
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leveraging and reinforcing
this old weapon,
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in the halls of power,
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in some broadcast studios
we could mention,
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and we don't need to fuss
over whether these people
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believe what they're saying,
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whether they're really racist.
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That's not what it's about.
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It's about pocketbooks and power.
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Finally, I think
the biggest lesson of all,
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and let me talk in particular
to the white folks for a minute,
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once we understand that people
who look like us
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invented the very notion of race
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in order to advantage themselves and us,
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isn't it easier to see that
it's our problem to solve?
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It's a white people problem.
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I'm embarrassed to say that
for a long time I thought of racism
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as being mainly a struggle
for people of color to fight,
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sort of like the people
on the TV screen when I was a kid.
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Or, as if I was on the sidelines
at a sports contest,
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on one side people of color,
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on the other those real racists,
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the Southern sheriff,
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the people in hoods.
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And I was sincerely rooting
for people of color to win the struggle.
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But no.
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There are no sidelines.
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We're all in it.
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We are implicated.
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And if I'm not joining the struggle
to dismantle the system
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that advantages me,
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I am complicit.
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This isn't about shame or guilt.
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White guilt doesn't get anything done,
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and honestly I don't feel a lot of guilt.
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History isn't my fault or yours.
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What I do feel is a stronger sense
of responsibility to do something.
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All this has altered the way
that I think about and approach my work
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as a documentary storyteller
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and as a teacher,
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but beyond that, besides that,
what does it mean,
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what does it mean for any of us?
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Does it mean that we support leaders
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who want to push ahead with
a conversation about reparations?
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In our communities, are we finding
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people who are working to transform
unjust institutions
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and supporting that work?
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At my job, am I the white person
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who shows up grudgingly
for the diversity and equity meeting
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or am I trying to figure
out how to be a real accomplice
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to my colleagues of color?
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Seems to me wherever we show up
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we need to show up with humility
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and vulnerability
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and a willingness to put down
this power that we did not earn.
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I believe we also stand to benefit
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if we could create a society
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that's not built on the exploitation
or oppression of anyone.
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But in the end we should do this,
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we should show up,
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figure out how to take action,
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because it's right.
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Thank you.
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