A next-gen cure for killer infections
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0:00 - 0:03So it was about four years ago, five years ago,
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0:03 - 0:05I was sitting on a stage in Philadelphia, I think it was,
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0:05 - 0:08with a bag similar to this.
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0:08 - 0:11And I was pulling a molecule out of this bag.
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0:11 - 0:14And I was saying, you don't know this molecule really well,
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0:14 - 0:17but your body knows it extremely well.
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0:17 - 0:21And I was thinking that your body hated it, at the time,
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0:21 - 0:24because we are very immune to this. This is called alpha-gal epitope.
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0:24 - 0:28And the fact that pig heart valves have lots of these on them
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0:28 - 0:32is the reason that you can't transplant a pig heart valve into a person easily.
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0:32 - 0:34Actually our body doesn't hate these.
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0:34 - 0:37Our body loves these. It eats them.
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0:37 - 0:40I mean, the cells in our immune system are always hungry.
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0:40 - 0:44And if an antibody is stuck to one of these things
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0:44 - 0:47on the cell, it means "that's food."
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0:47 - 0:49Now, I was thinking about that and I said, you know, we've got this
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0:49 - 0:52immune response to this ridiculous molecule
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0:52 - 0:56that we don't make, and we see it a lot in other animals and stuff.
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0:56 - 0:59But I said we can't get rid of it,
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0:59 - 1:01because all the people who tried to transplant heart valves
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1:01 - 1:03found out you can't get rid of that immunity.
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1:03 - 1:05And I said, why don't you use that?
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1:05 - 1:08What if I could stick this molecule,
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1:08 - 1:10slap it onto a bacteria
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1:10 - 1:14that was pathogenic to me, that had just invaded my lungs?
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1:14 - 1:16I mean I could immediately tap into
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1:16 - 1:18an immune response that was already there,
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1:18 - 1:21where it was not going to take five or six days to develop it --
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1:21 - 1:24it was going to immediately attack whatever this thing was on.
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1:24 - 1:26It was kind of like the same thing that happens when you,
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1:26 - 1:30like when you're getting stopped for a traffic ticket in L.A.,
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1:30 - 1:33and the cop drops a bag of marijuana in the back of your car,
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1:33 - 1:36and then charges you for possession of marijuana.
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1:36 - 1:40It's like this very fast, very efficient way to get people off the street.
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1:40 - 1:42(Laughter)
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1:42 - 1:44So you can take a bacteria
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1:44 - 1:46that really doesn't make these things at all,
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1:46 - 1:48and if you could clamp these on it really well
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1:48 - 1:50you have it taken off the street.
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1:50 - 1:52And for certain bacteria
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1:52 - 1:54we don't have really efficient ways to do that anymore.
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1:54 - 1:56Our antibiotics are running out.
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1:56 - 1:59And, I mean, the world apparently is running out too.
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1:59 - 2:02So probably it doesn't matter 50 years from now --
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2:02 - 2:05streptococcus and stuff like that will be rampant --
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2:05 - 2:07because we won't be here. But if we are --
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2:07 - 2:09(Laughter)
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2:09 - 2:11we're going to need something to do with the bacteria.
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2:11 - 2:15So I started working with this thing,
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2:15 - 2:17with a bunch of collaborators.
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2:17 - 2:20And trying to attach this to things that were
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2:20 - 2:24themselves attached to certain specific target zones,
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2:24 - 2:26bacteria that we don't like.
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2:26 - 2:30And I feel now like George Bush.
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2:30 - 2:32It's like "mission accomplished."
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2:32 - 2:35So I might be doing something dumb, just like he was doing at the time.
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2:35 - 2:39But basically what I was talking about there we've now gotten to work.
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2:39 - 2:43And it's killing bacteria. It's eating them.
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2:43 - 2:47This thing can be stuck, like that little green triangle up there,
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2:47 - 2:50sort of symbolizing this right now.
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2:50 - 2:53You can stick this to something called a DNA aptamer.
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2:53 - 2:55And that DNA aptamer will attach specifically
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2:55 - 2:57to a target that you have selected for it.
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2:57 - 3:01So you can find a little feature on a bacterium that you don't like,
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3:01 - 3:04like Staphylococcus -- I don't like it in particular,
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3:04 - 3:07because it killed a professor friend of mine last year.
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3:07 - 3:10It doesn't respond to antibiotics. So I don't like it.
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3:10 - 3:13And I'm making an aptamer that will have this attached to it.
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3:13 - 3:16That will know how to find Staph when it's in your body,
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3:16 - 3:19and will alert your immune system to go after it.
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3:19 - 3:22Here's what happened. See that line on the very top
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3:22 - 3:24with the little dots?
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3:24 - 3:27That's a bunch of mice that had been poisoned
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3:27 - 3:29by our scientist friends down in Texas,
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3:29 - 3:32at Brooks Air Base, with anthrax.
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3:32 - 3:35And they had also been treated with a drug that we made
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3:35 - 3:38that would attack anthrax in particular,
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3:38 - 3:40and direct your immune system to it.
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3:40 - 3:42You'll notice they all lived, the ones on the top line --
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3:42 - 3:44that's a 100 percent survival rate.
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3:44 - 3:47And they actually lived another 14 days,
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3:47 - 3:49or 28 when we finally killed them,
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3:49 - 3:52and took them apart and figured out what went wrong.
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3:52 - 3:54Why did they not die?
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3:54 - 3:57And they didn't die because they didn't have anthrax anymore.
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3:57 - 3:59So we did it. Okay?
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3:59 - 4:01(Applause)
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4:01 - 4:03Mission accomplished!
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4:03 - 4:10(Applause)
- Title:
- A next-gen cure for killer infections
- Speaker:
- Kary Mullis
- Description:
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Drug-resistant bacteria kills, even in top hospitals. But now tough infections like staph and anthrax may be in for a surprise. Nobel-winning chemist Kary Mullis, who watched a friend die when powerful antibiotics failed, unveils a radical new cure that shows extraordinary promise.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 04:14
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Yasushi Aoki
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And trying to attach this to things that were
themselves attached to certain specific target zones,
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And trying to attach this to things that would
themselves attach to certain specific target zones,