SIGMUND FREUD UNDER ANALYSIS - NOVA - Discovery/History/Psychology (documentary)
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0:00 - 0:04[Narrator:] Sigmund Freud revolutionized our thinking about the human mind.
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0:04 - 0:06But who was this man?
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0:06 - 0:08And how do his theories hold up today?
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0:08 - 0:10[Professor Peter Gray:] Freud really believed that he had come upon
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0:10 - 0:13certain insights about the way the mind works
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0:13 - 0:16that he regarded as remarkable
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0:16 - 0:17and quite original.
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0:17 - 0:20[Dr. Francis Crick:] Mind you, he did have many insights,
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0:20 - 0:22but if you ask in straight scientific terms,
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0:22 - 0:25I'd be very surprised if much of it survives.
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0:25 - 0:28[Narrator:] Tonight on NOVA: Freud Under Analysis.
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0:58 - 1:13[Music]
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1:21 - 1:24[Narrator:] Sigmund Freud is heralded as one of the great thinkers
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1:24 - 1:27of the 20th century, famous for his ideas
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1:27 - 1:31on dreams, childhood sexuality, and the role of the unconscious.
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1:32 - 1:35Freud saw himself as a scientist
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1:35 - 1:36who had discovered a method of understanding
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1:36 - 1:38the mysteries of the mind,
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1:38 - 1:40which he called psychoanalysis.
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1:41 - 1:45But how scientific is psychoanalysis?
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1:45 - 1:47And how well do Freud's ideas stand up to
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1:47 - 1:50our modern understanding of the mind?
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1:50 - 1:53Freud revolutionized the way we think about ourselves,
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1:53 - 1:56but today there is a widening gap between the popular
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1:56 - 1:58and the scientific views of Freud.
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1:59 - 2:00[Peter Gray:] We live, clearly, in a Freudian
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2:00 - 2:03world, and it is quite unthinkable
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2:03 - 2:07to envision the world without his language,
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2:07 - 2:09without his ideas, however well or ill
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2:09 - 2:11they are expressed.
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2:11 - 2:13[Dr. Francis Crick:] There's no doubt that his ideas
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2:13 - 2:16appeal to the imagination of the time,
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2:16 - 2:18partly because they are revolutionary
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2:18 - 2:20and partly because they seem to fit in to
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2:20 - 2:22the general way of thinking.
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2:22 - 2:25And so they have a very large cultural impact,
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2:25 - 2:27and yet the probability is, they won't be correct.
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2:28 - 2:30[Narrator:] The Freudian Revolution began
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2:30 - 2:34here in Vienna. These films, taken in the late 1920s
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2:34 - 2:37show Freud's followers. They came from all over
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2:37 - 2:40the world to the city that was known as
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2:40 - 2:41the center of psychoanalysis.
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2:42 - 2:45Some were physicians like Freud, others were
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2:45 - 2:47intellectuals drawn to Vienna by the excitement
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2:47 - 2:50of being part of a new movement.
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2:50 - 2:51But most came to learn Freud's radical
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2:51 - 2:53new form of treatment.
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2:54 - 2:56They entered his famous consulting rooms
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2:56 - 2:59at Bergasse 19, in the hopes of undergoing
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2:59 - 3:01a training analysis with the master himself.
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3:11 - 3:14When these films were taken, Freud was in his 70s.
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3:15 - 3:18His daughter Anna, herself an analyst,
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3:18 - 3:20was a constant companion.
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3:21 - 3:24Psychoanalysis was Freud's passion.
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3:24 - 3:26During the day he saw patients,
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3:26 - 3:29at night he spent hours reading or writing.
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3:30 - 3:33He was tireless in his devotion to what he called
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3:33 - 3:34his new science.
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3:35 - 3:38His ideas were so powerful, so potent,
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3:38 - 3:40that they have dramatically influenced
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3:40 - 3:43almost every discipline, including literature,
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3:43 - 3:44art, and medicine.
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3:46 - 3:49But the Freudian legacy is a complicated one.
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3:49 - 3:51Although he wanted psychoanalysis to stand
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3:51 - 3:54on its own as a science, it is known today
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3:54 - 3:57mainly as a form of therapy.
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3:59 - 4:02As a young doctor in the 1930s, Joseph Wortis
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4:02 - 4:04traveled to Vienna to undergo a training
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4:04 - 4:05analysis with Freud.
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4:06 - 4:09Now a psychiatrist at the State University of New York,
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4:09 - 4:11Dr. Wortis describes his first session:
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4:12 - 4:14[Dr. Wortis:] I was rather surprised at his
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4:14 - 4:18physical appearance; he was then well into
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4:18 - 4:23his 70s and he was extremely small and frail,
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4:23 - 4:27and at the same time, quite energetic.
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4:27 - 4:33He spoke in a vigorous sort of professorial style,
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4:33 - 4:40clipping his syllables, and he was direct and to the point.
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4:40 - 4:44He said he would be glad to take me on,
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4:44 - 4:47he stated his fee, which would be
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4:47 - 4:50the equivalent of twenty dollars an hour,
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4:50 - 4:53which seems very little nowadays, but in those
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4:53 - 4:56days in Vienna, it was a substantial fee,
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4:56 - 5:00and he said my responsibilities would be
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5:00 - 5:05simply to expose my thoughts, my feelings,
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5:05 - 5:12to be candid, to discuss my dreams, and he
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5:12 - 5:16did not set a specific goal. I think his assumption
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5:16 - 5:18was that in time, material would turn up,
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5:18 - 5:21which he would interpret or, as he would say,
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5:21 - 5:24bring to consciousness, and that's how
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5:24 - 5:30the analytic process would unfold.
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5:30 - 5:32I would come in and say, "Herr Professor,
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5:32 - 5:35I had some really good dreams last night,"
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5:35 - 5:39and he would say, "Fine, let's talk about them."
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5:39 - 5:43And he would approach them with a real interest
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5:43 - 5:48and zest, and if I was able to pitch in with
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5:48 - 5:50some interpretations that he liked,
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5:50 - 5:54he would say, "This was a very good session."
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5:54 - 5:57On the other hand, if I was skeptical
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5:57 - 6:01and resistant, he would show his disappointment
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6:01 - 6:05and sometimes his irritation, in no uncertain way.
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6:05 - 6:09And he would say "You have no right to be skeptical."
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6:09 - 6:12He said, "First you should learn about analysis."
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6:12 - 6:14[Narrator:] When the Freud Museum opened
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6:14 - 6:18in London in the summer of 1986, many of Freud's
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6:18 - 6:21followers, those who did learn about the analysis,
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6:21 - 6:24gathered to pay tribute.
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6:24 - 6:27Among them was an historian from Yale University,
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6:27 - 6:30Professor Peter Gay, the author of a new biography
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6:30 - 6:32of Freud.
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6:32 - 6:33The museum is in the house
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6:33 - 6:35where Freud lived the last year of his life,
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6:35 - 6:39after having fled Vienna during the Nazi occupation.
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6:39 - 6:42He brought with him many of his prized possessions:
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6:42 - 6:46His writing desk, his collection of antiquities,
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6:46 - 6:48and the famous couch.
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6:48 - 6:50Professor Peter Gay:
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6:50 - 6:52[Peter Gay:] As you look around his study,
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6:52 - 6:55and above all, his consulting room,
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6:55 - 6:56you can see he had really two passions,
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6:56 - 6:58and they blended into one.
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6:58 - 7:00One was psychology, he said, "I have
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7:00 - 7:02a tyrant psychology," and he welcomed
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7:02 - 7:04that tyrant. And the other was, of course,
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7:04 - 7:07collecting antiquities, which he collected
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7:07 - 7:10avidly, as soon as he could afford them,
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7:10 - 7:14which was from the late 1880s on.
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7:14 - 7:16Freud said, "These are characteristic
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7:16 - 7:19of what I do. I too am an archeologist.
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7:19 - 7:22I like to dig, and what I dig at, of course,
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7:22 - 7:24and dig into, is the human mind."
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7:24 - 7:26And that metaphor of digging as
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7:26 - 7:29an archeologist, whether it is finding
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7:29 - 7:32those treasures or digging into ancient Rome,
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7:32 - 7:36as he says in one of his books, does bring this together.
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7:36 - 7:39And his own sense was, this collecting took
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7:39 - 7:43him back to a kind of childhood of humanity,
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7:43 - 7:45as he once said. And this is, of course,
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7:45 - 7:47very close to the work that he was doing when
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7:47 - 7:50he sat in his chair analyzing patients,
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7:50 - 7:52going back to their childhood as well.
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7:56 - 7:58[Narrator:] Vienna at the turn of the century
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7:58 - 8:00was a city of contradictions.
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8:01 - 8:03It was dominated by the Victorian ethic
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8:03 - 8:06of strict morality, at the same time it was
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8:06 - 8:09also a city excited by new ideas coming from
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8:09 - 8:15a vibrant, artistic, and intellectual community.
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8:15 - 8:18But Freud's Vienna, was a world of science
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8:18 - 8:22and medicine.
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8:22 - 8:24[Peter Gay:] His friends were doctors,
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8:24 - 8:25his education - his medical education -
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8:25 - 8:28was crucial for him, much more important
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8:28 - 8:30than I think it might be for any ordinary
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8:30 - 8:33physician, because he absorbed with it,
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8:33 - 8:35not merely medical knowledge, of which he
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8:35 - 8:36had a great deal and which he used as
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8:36 - 8:41a psychologist, rather than as a doctor,
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8:41 - 8:43but also a philosophy - a view of the world,
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8:43 - 8:46a completely secular, materialistic view -
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8:46 - 8:50into which he fitted his psychology.
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8:50 - 8:51[Narrator:] Freud distinguished himself
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8:51 - 8:54academically at a very young age.
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8:54 - 8:56He was a prolific writer and avid reader
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8:56 - 8:59in the arts, humanities, and sciences.
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8:59 - 9:01He attended the University of Vienna
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9:01 - 9:03to study medicine, one of the few professions
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9:03 - 9:06with opportunities for a young, Jewish man.
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9:06 - 9:09Freud was schooled in the scientific methods
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9:09 - 9:12of the 19th century laboratory, which stressed
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9:12 - 9:14the importance of experimentation, observation,
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9:14 - 9:16and measurement.
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9:17 - 9:19He became an expert in neurology.
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9:19 - 9:21These drawings illustrate his interest in
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9:21 - 9:24the brain and nervous system.
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9:24 - 9:27His experiments with nerve cells lead him
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9:27 - 9:29to invent a new method of dyeing tissue samples
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9:29 - 9:32for study.
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9:32 - 9:35Freud also experimented with cocaine.
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9:35 - 9:37He used it himself for at least 10 years.
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9:37 - 9:40He was enthusiastic about its therapeutic properties
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9:40 - 9:42and speculated on its potential as an anesthetic
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9:42 - 9:45for the eye, publishing several papers,
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9:45 - 9:48including "On Cocaine".
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9:48 - 9:50During these years, he was greatly influenced
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9:50 - 9:52by his university professors, especially
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9:52 - 9:55Enst von Brucke, an adherent
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9:55 - 9:58of the Helmholtz School of Thought,
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9:58 - 9:59scientists who believed that everything
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9:59 - 10:02was reducible to chemical and physical forces.
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10:03 - 10:06In the scientific mind of the 19th century,
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10:06 - 10:10all phenomena could be logically understood.
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10:11 - 10:14But Freud, now 30 years old and engaged
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10:14 - 10:16to be married, was warned by his teachers
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10:16 - 10:19that he would never make enough money as a researcher.
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10:19 - 10:21They encouraged him to work with patients,
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10:21 - 10:25and open a private practice.
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10:25 - 10:27For several years, Freud worked
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10:27 - 10:29in psychiatric hospitals and clinics.
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10:29 - 10:31As his practice grew, he became interested
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10:31 - 10:35in hysteria, a nervous disorder in which patients
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10:35 - 10:37experience physical symptoms, but have
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10:37 - 10:38no underlying physical disease.
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10:39 - 10:42He began using a new, controversial technique,
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10:42 - 10:45hypnosis. Discouraged with the results, however,
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10:45 - 10:47he turned to his colleague and close friend,
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10:47 - 10:50Joseph Breuer, for advise.
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10:50 - 10:53As Freud later described, it was
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10:53 - 10:54from these conversations that
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10:54 - 10:58psychoanalysis began to take form.
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10:58 - 11:00[Peter Gay:] For sometime, when he was asked
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11:00 - 11:02who was the founder of psychoanalysis,
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11:02 - 11:04he would not say, "I am the founder,"
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11:04 - 11:07but rather he would use his friend and collaborator,
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11:07 - 11:10and somewhat older Viennese physician,
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11:10 - 11:13Joseph Breuer, because Breuer had told him
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11:13 - 11:16the story of one of his - of Breuer's patients.
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11:16 - 11:20The story of a young, intelligent, well-educated
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11:20 - 11:22woman who develops all kinds of bizarre
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11:22 - 11:24psychological symptoms. She forgets her German,
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11:24 - 11:25for example. She finds herself unable to drink
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11:27 - 11:31water out of a glass. She has long lapses
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11:31 - 11:34of attention, which appear to be hysterical
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11:34 - 11:36in some sense, and of course that is how later
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11:36 - 11:40it will be called: A very complicated case of hysteria.
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11:40 - 11:42Now Breuer, more or less by accident,
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11:42 - 11:46comes upon the way of dealing with
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11:46 - 11:48and disposing of these symptoms.
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11:48 - 11:50He does so by asking her, or she in a way
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11:50 - 11:52suggests this to him (and her share
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11:52 - 11:55in the cure is very important) that that
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11:55 - 11:59should all be talked out. That she should see
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11:59 - 12:02if she could remember what this reminded
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12:02 - 12:03her of. This becomes, then, the famous
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12:03 - 12:05talking cure.
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12:05 - 12:07[Narrator:] At first Freud talked to his patients
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12:07 - 12:10while they were in a hypnotic state.
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12:10 - 12:11He believed hysterical symptoms
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12:11 - 12:14were related to painful events from childhood.
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12:14 - 12:16He thought that if his patients could remember
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12:16 - 12:18and talk about the first time they experienced
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12:18 - 12:22their symptoms, they would be relieved of their suffering.
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12:22 - 12:25Gradually, he abandoned his use of hypnosis.
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12:25 - 12:27In one of his most well-known cases,
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12:27 - 12:29Fraulein Elizabeth von R,
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12:29 - 12:31Freud wrote about the method he used
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12:31 - 12:35to help patients recall their earliest memories:
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12:35 - 12:39"I made her lie down and keep her eyes shut.
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12:39 - 12:41Throughout the analysis, I made use of
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12:41 - 12:44the technique of bringing out pictures
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12:44 - 12:46and ideas by means of pressing
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12:46 - 12:49on the patient's head. When I pressed her head,
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12:49 - 12:52she would maintain that nothing occurred to her.
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12:52 - 12:55I would repeat my pressure, but still nothing appeared.
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12:55 - 12:58Perhaps, I said, she had not been sufficiently attentive,
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12:58 - 13:00or perhaps her idea was not the right one.
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13:00 - 13:03This, I told her, was not her affair.
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13:03 - 13:05She was under an obligation to remain
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13:05 - 13:08completely objective and say whatever
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13:08 - 13:10came into her head, whether
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13:10 - 13:13it was appropriate or not.
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13:13 - 13:15Freud began working with a technique
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13:15 - 13:18he called "Free Association",
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13:18 - 13:20encouraging his patients to talk freely
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13:20 - 13:22without interruption or suggestion.
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13:22 - 13:24[Peter Gay:] Freud was a famous observer
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13:24 - 13:26and a fine listener. Listening became for him
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13:26 - 13:29the crucial art; it was not just something
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13:29 - 13:30passive, like not talking.
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13:30 - 13:33It was a kind of not talking that was
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13:33 - 13:35in some very important way, productive,
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13:35 - 13:36and meant the storing-up in the mind
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13:36 - 13:38of relevant material that could then
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13:38 - 13:40be used later and brought to bear
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13:40 - 13:42when the time was right.
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13:42 - 13:44This was a matter of tact.
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13:44 - 13:45So there's a good deal of art
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13:45 - 13:47to psychoanalysis, as he saw it.
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13:47 - 13:48And above all, beyond the art,
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13:48 - 13:51he always himself certainly believed,
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13:51 - 13:52and I'm willing, by the way, to go
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13:52 - 13:54along with him on this,
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13:54 - 13:55that he was really a scientist,
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13:55 - 13:57a scientist of the mind.
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13:57 - 13:58And he was working towards
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13:58 - 14:00and understanding how people work,
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14:00 - 14:02not just how his patients work.
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14:02 - 14:05[Narrator:] In 1895, Breuer and Freud
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14:05 - 14:09published their findings in studies on hysteria.
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14:09 - 14:10Freud detailed the case histories
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14:10 - 14:14of six patients, and outlined for the first time,
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14:14 - 14:15the techniques that would become
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14:15 - 14:18the foundation of psychoanalysis.
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14:18 - 14:23These included Free Association and Transference,
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14:23 - 14:24the process in which a patient
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14:24 - 14:27transfers feelings from previous relationships
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14:27 - 14:30onto the relationship with the analyst.
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14:30 - 14:31But within a year, Freud announced
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14:31 - 14:35another major discovery: His seduction theory.
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14:35 - 14:37He claimed that hysteria was caused by
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14:37 - 14:38sexual abuses or seductions
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14:38 - 14:40that took place in childhood.
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14:40 - 14:42He based this new theory
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14:42 - 14:44on the testimony of his patients.
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14:44 - 14:45[Peter Gay:] Freud was essentially
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14:45 - 14:48treating his patients, trying to do two things,
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14:48 - 14:49which were separate, but he hoped
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14:49 - 14:52not incompatible. On the one hand
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14:52 - 14:55he was trying to cure, or at least reduce
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14:55 - 14:58the strain of the neurotic problems
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14:58 - 14:59with which they had come.
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14:59 - 15:02It was simply in that sense a therapy,
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15:02 - 15:04like others, but he thought better than others.
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15:04 - 15:05And secondly, he was using his patients
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15:05 - 15:08as guinea pigs; that is to say, they were
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15:08 - 15:10part of the laboratory.
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15:10 - 15:11I think of his consulting room
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15:11 - 15:15as his one and only laboratory.
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15:15 - 15:16[Narrator:] The seduction theory was not
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15:16 - 15:18well-received by Freud's medical
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15:18 - 15:20and academic colleagues.
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15:20 - 15:22They rejected his conclusions;
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15:22 - 15:24even Breuer broke with him.
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15:24 - 15:26Freud retreated into a period
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15:26 - 15:28of intellectual isolation.
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15:28 - 15:30During that time, he shared his ideas
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15:30 - 15:33mainly with one person, a friend
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15:33 - 15:36and colleague, Wilhelm Fleiss.
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15:36 - 15:38Fleiss was a physician in Berlin.
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15:38 - 15:40During the 15-year period of their friendship,
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15:40 - 15:43they corresponded almost weekly,
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15:43 - 15:46sharing personal and professional ambitions.
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15:46 - 15:49Freud confided to Fleiss that he had a grand vision:
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15:49 - 15:52To create a universal theory of the mind
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15:52 - 15:54from his understanding of abnormal behavior.
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15:54 - 15:56He wrote to Fleiss his project
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15:56 - 16:00for a scientific psychology.
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16:00 - 16:02Frank Sulloway is an historian of science
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16:02 - 16:05at Harvard University. He believes
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16:05 - 16:07that the project shows how important
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16:07 - 16:09Freud's scientific aspirations were
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16:09 - 16:13in formulating his theories.
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16:13 - 16:14[Frank Sulloway:] The project was
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16:14 - 16:17Freud's tremendously ambitious attempt
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16:17 - 16:21to reduce the workings of the mind
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16:21 - 16:25to basic notions of natural science.
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16:25 - 16:27And in Freud's day, this included
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16:27 - 16:31a reliance upon the Neuron Theory,
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16:31 - 16:33which was just emerging,
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16:33 - 16:35and the notion that explained mental activity
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16:35 - 16:38by explanations involving movements of energy
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16:38 - 16:41between neurons within the brain,
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16:41 - 16:44or between various cellular elements.
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16:44 - 16:45And Freud concocted -
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16:45 - 16:48and I think you have to use the word "concocted" -
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16:48 - 16:52the most incredibly, ingenious and imaginitive
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16:52 - 16:55scheme for explaining virtually
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16:55 - 16:56every kind of mental activity,
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16:56 - 16:59from thought to judgment to problems dear
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16:59 - 17:01to his heart in psychopathology,
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17:01 - 17:03such as repression and various forms
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17:03 - 17:06of neurosis, hysterical attacks.
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17:06 - 17:08[Narrator:] Freud soon abandoned the project,
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17:08 - 17:10but the movement of energy through the body
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17:10 - 17:13and the mind, especially sexual energy,
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17:13 - 17:16remained a key Freudian motif.
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17:16 - 17:17[Frank Sulloway:] It's very important
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17:17 - 17:19to appreciate why Freud
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17:19 - 17:21was so fanatical about sex
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17:21 - 17:23as a cause of neurosis.
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17:23 - 17:26Why did he pick sex?
He could have picked lots of things. -
17:26 - 17:29It's not just the repression
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17:29 - 17:32that, let's say sex was undergoing,
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17:32 - 17:33in the Victorian period.
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17:33 - 17:37Sex was much more important to Freud;
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17:37 - 17:39it was a physiological phenomenon.
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17:39 - 17:41And somebody who was looking for
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17:41 - 17:43a theory of the mind
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17:43 - 17:47that can be based upon a natural science foundation,
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17:47 - 17:50sex is crucial. It provides what Freud once called
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17:50 - 17:52"the indispensable organic foundation,
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17:52 - 17:56which much underlie all forms of disease."
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17:56 - 18:00So, for Freud, sex was a plausible natural science
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18:00 - 18:04form of pathology, and it takes on its importance
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18:04 - 18:07in Freudian theory, precisely because of that link
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18:07 - 18:10to biology and to natural science.
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18:10 - 18:12[Narrator:] The Freud-Fleiss correspondence
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18:12 - 18:15indicates that sexuality did become the central
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18:15 - 18:17concept in Freud's thinking.
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18:17 - 18:19But one critic, Jeffrey Masson,
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18:19 - 18:21who translated the letters,
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18:21 - 18:23believes they also reveal Freud's willingness
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18:27 - 18:28[Jeffrey Masson:] What's so fascinated me
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18:28 - 18:31in reading the letters was the degree
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18:31 - 18:34of Freud's involvement with Fleiss.
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18:34 - 18:36In the beginning they seem to have found
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18:36 - 18:38one another in this vast scientific desert;
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18:39 - 18:41two men who could think the same way,
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18:41 - 18:43could think alike.
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18:43 - 18:46Fleiss developed a series of rather strange,
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18:46 - 18:50even bizarre notions, about the relationship
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18:50 - 18:53between the female genitalia and the nose,
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18:53 - 18:56what he called the nasal reflex neurosis.
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18:56 - 18:58Mainly the things that happened in the genitals
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18:58 - 19:01were reflected in the nose, and he felt that
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19:01 - 19:05he sometimes had to intervene with surgery.
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19:05 - 19:07And Freud, for a very long period,
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19:07 - 19:10believed in this, accepted Fleiss' ideas,
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19:10 - 19:12and felt, in fact, that they were
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19:12 - 19:14really in harmony with his own.
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19:14 - 19:17Now I think, in retrospect, we would say
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19:17 - 19:19that they were not in harmony, and Freud no doubt,
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19:19 - 19:22some years later, would have recognized this himself.
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19:22 - 19:28But for a period of time,
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19:29 - 19:31of the controversial aspects of Freud's relationship
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19:31 - 19:36to Fleiss. But most analysts, like Dr. Harold Blum,
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19:36 - 19:38value the letters as an important record
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19:38 - 19:41of the evolution of Freud's major ideas.
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19:41 - 19:43The Freud-Fleiss letters are now part
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19:43 - 19:45of a large collection at the Library of Congress
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19:45 - 19:48in Washington D.C.
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19:48 - 19:50[Dr. Harold Blum:] The Freud-Fleiss correspondence
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19:50 - 19:53is of extraordinary importance as a record
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19:53 - 19:57of the first self-analysis ever accomplished.
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19:57 - 19:59The Freud self-analysis was a systematic
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19:59 - 20:02self-exploration begun in October 1896,
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20:02 - 20:05after the death of his father.
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20:05 - 20:08He proceeded to accomplish what no one had
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20:08 - 20:10ever done before: To analyze himself,
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20:10 - 20:13so that he was both doctor and patient,
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20:13 - 20:15although Fleiss served as a confidant
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20:16 - 20:18and as a kind of proto-analyst, and Freud
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20:18 - 20:19was reporting the results
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20:19 - 20:22of his analytic discoveries to Fleiss
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20:22 - 20:23in these very letters.
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20:23 - 20:26At that period, dreams provided
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20:26 - 20:28the greatest insights for him.
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20:28 - 20:32And he proceeded in a very systematic way
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20:32 - 20:35to regularly analyze himself on a daily basis,
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20:35 - 20:39making a record, writing down his dreams,
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20:39 - 20:41and proceeding to analyze them.
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20:41 - 20:42[Narrator:] By writing down his dreams
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20:42 - 20:45and free-associating, Freud recalled events
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20:45 - 20:48from his youth. He related in a letter to Fleiss
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20:48 - 20:51the important details of his self-analysis.
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20:51 - 20:54He had discovered intense feelings of love for his mother,
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20:54 - 20:57jealousy and hatred for his father,
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20:57 - 21:01what he would later call "The Oedipus Complex".
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21:01 - 21:03Freud believed that dreams provided access
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21:03 - 21:08to a deeper understanding of behavior.
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21:08 - 21:11[Narrator reading Freud:] "I found the dream represented a particular
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21:11 - 21:14state of affairs as I should have wished it to be.
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21:14 - 21:17Thus the content of the dream was the fulfillment
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21:17 - 21:21of a wish, and its motive was a wish.
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21:21 - 21:24If we adopt the method of interpreting dreams,
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21:24 - 21:29we shall find that dreams really have a meaning."
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21:29 - 21:31[Narrator:] Freud concluded that dreams revealed
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21:31 - 21:35sexual and aggressive wishes from childhood.
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21:35 - 21:39He published this radical new vision in 1900,
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21:39 - 21:44"Interpretation of Dreams," what he called his most original work.
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21:44 - 21:47He felt he had come upon a universal truth,
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21:47 - 21:50the idea of infantile sexuality,
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21:50 - 21:55that everyone was sexual from birth.
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21:55 - 21:59[Dr. Jacob Arlow:] He decided to ask the patients to do with dreams
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21:59 - 22:03what he had asked them to do in connection with their symptoms,
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22:03 - 22:09namely, to discuss each element to see what came to their mind.
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22:09 - 22:14If they permitted themselves to speak freely and without criticism
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22:14 - 22:15of their thoughts.
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22:15 - 22:22In this way, he began to see that dreams expressed a wish from childhood,
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22:22 - 22:25usually a sexual wish,
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22:25 - 22:28but did not express it directly,
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22:28 - 22:32but in a disguised and distorted way.
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22:32 - 22:36When he describes some of his interpretations of dreams
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22:36 - 22:39to his good friend and colleague, Wilhelm Fleiss,
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22:39 - 22:42Fleiss said to him that the interpretations sounded like jokes,
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22:42 - 22:44and bad ones at that.
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22:44 - 22:47Far from being offended, what Freud did
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22:47 - 22:51was take the idea seriously and to investigate
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22:51 - 22:55what was it that brought the pleasure from jokes.
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22:55 - 22:58[Narrator:] Freud wanted to demonstrate that psychoanalysis
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22:58 - 23:02had applications beyond its use as a treatment for neuroses,
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23:02 - 23:05that it was the key to the workings of the mind.
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23:05 - 23:10In rapid succession, Freud published, "Jokes and their Relationships to the Unconscious"
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23:10 - 23:13and "Psychopathology of everyday life,"
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23:13 - 23:15in which he described how slips of the tongue
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23:15 - 23:16or forgetfulness
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23:16 - 23:21revealed conflicts about hidden thoughts or feelings.
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23:21 - 23:25Freud now saw the mind divided into three areas:
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23:25 - 23:29The Unconscious, the place of sexual and aggressive wishes,
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23:29 - 23:32urges, memories, and fantasies,
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23:32 - 23:36the Preconscious, a gatekeeper that permitted or prevented
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23:36 - 23:39wishes from entering consciousness,
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23:39 - 23:43and the Conscious mind, the seat of awareness.
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23:43 - 23:47Freud believed that when unconscious wishes were in conflict,
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23:47 - 23:50or when blocked by the preconscious,
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23:50 - 23:52they came out anyway in slips of the tongue,
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23:52 - 23:57dreams, or as neurotic symptoms.
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23:57 - 23:59[Peter Gay:] I think Freud really believed
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23:59 - 24:03that he had come upon certain insights about the nature of the mind,
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24:03 - 24:07the way the mind works, that he regarded as remarkable
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24:07 - 24:08and quite original.
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24:08 - 24:10Although, he was very well aware that there were other
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24:10 - 24:14psychologists, philosophers, poets, novelists,
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24:14 - 24:17who had come upon ideas that he himself had,
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24:17 - 24:20as he said, "laboriously" had to find through his own laboratory,
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24:20 - 24:23the patients on the couch.
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24:23 - 24:26[Narrator:] Freud considered dreams, infantile sexuality,
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24:26 - 24:30and the unconscious to be his great ideas.
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24:30 - 24:32He said, "The poets and philosophers before me
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24:32 - 24:35discovered the unconscious, but I have discovered
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24:35 - 24:38the scientific means by which it can be studied."
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24:38 - 24:41But, most of the scientific community in Vienna
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24:41 - 24:45found his ideas to be peculiar and extreme.
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24:45 - 24:47[Frank Sulloway:] Freud's notion of the unconscious
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24:47 - 24:50is a very uniquely Freudian one.
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24:50 - 24:53It supposes that there's actually an area of the mind
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24:53 - 24:56that gets sealed off in the course of human development
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24:56 - 25:02within which tempestuous instincts are struggling for release,
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25:02 - 25:05but can't find proper release owing to this phenomenon
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25:05 - 25:06of having them sealed off.
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25:06 - 25:08And that's the unconscious mind.
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25:08 - 25:12It's a very animal-like unconscious.
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25:12 - 25:16It has all of these wild and tempestuous instincts
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25:16 - 25:18inside of it.
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25:18 - 25:20And, when we speak of an unconscious behavior,
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25:20 - 25:23that's a different sense of the word than Freud thought.
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25:23 - 25:25Freud's was a very dynamic unconscious,
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25:25 - 25:27and it's one that is much more plausible
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25:27 - 25:31in the context of biological notions of his day that
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25:31 - 25:33that unconscious was our animal evolutionary past
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25:33 - 25:34for Freud.
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25:34 - 25:37And, in that animal evolutionary past
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25:37 - 25:39are things that are incompatible with modern civilization.
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25:39 - 25:41But, there's no way to escape it
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25:41 - 25:43because we are forced to inherit all of these things
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25:43 - 25:45from the past and to repeat them.
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25:45 - 25:48So, Freud's unconscious is alive, powerful,
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25:48 - 25:50sealed-off, and dangerous.
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25:50 - 25:53And, it's part of a 19th century thinking about
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25:53 - 25:56the organism and evolution.
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25:56 - 26:00[Narrator:] In 1905, Freud published three essays on
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26:00 - 26:02the theory of sexuality,
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26:02 - 26:06linking what he had named the psycho-sexual stages of development:
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26:06 - 26:08oral, anal, phallic, and genital
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26:08 - 26:10to personality traits.
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26:10 - 26:13The public was outraged by his use of sexual language
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26:13 - 26:16in reference to children.
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26:16 - 26:19Privately, Freud admitted to Fleiss that his new ideas
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26:19 - 26:23on sexuality had serious implications for his original seduction theory
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26:23 - 26:25about the cause of hysteria.
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26:25 - 26:28He wrote to Fleiss that he had been mistaken.
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26:28 - 26:30He now believed that what his patients had described as
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26:30 - 26:33sexual abuse was really fantasy,
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26:33 - 26:36the result of childhood wishes.
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26:36 - 26:39This change in Freud's thinking has become one of the hot spots
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26:39 - 26:41in Freudian scholarship.
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26:41 - 26:45In 1984, Jeffrey Masson published this book.
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26:45 - 26:48He charged that Freud abandoned his seduction theory,
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26:48 - 26:51not because of new evidence provided by his work with patients,
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26:51 - 26:54but because of other pressures.
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26:54 - 26:57[Dr. Harold Blum:] What became clear to me as I was reading these letters
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26:57 - 27:01was that there were pressures on Freud that were
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27:01 - 27:03of a non-scientific nature.
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27:03 - 27:08For example, the response from his medical and scientific colleagues
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27:08 - 27:09was a very negative one.
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27:09 - 27:12They refused to believe with Freud that these events
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27:12 - 27:14could possibly take place.
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27:14 - 27:16And he was quite sensitive to this.
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27:16 - 27:17Remember, he was a young physician.
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27:17 - 27:20He was just beginning his medical and psychiatric practice.
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27:20 - 27:23It was important to him in order to have referrals
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27:23 - 27:25and to have the kind of respect
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27:25 - 27:28to become a member of the scientific community
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27:28 - 27:30and of the university scientific community
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27:30 - 27:33to persuade his colleagues that he had something new to offer.
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27:33 - 27:36And they were rejecting his ideas about seduction.
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27:36 - 27:38[Dr. Jacob Arlow:] The abatement of the seduction theory,
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27:38 - 27:41like every other change that Freud made,
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27:41 - 27:44was based on the analysis of his findings.
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27:44 - 27:52He was constantly re-examining his material and his ideas,
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27:52 - 27:55and correlating theory and findings.
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27:55 - 27:59This, of course, is the method of science.
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27:59 - 28:04At first, in the situation and at the time
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28:04 - 28:06that he was working,
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28:06 - 28:11he believed the stories that his patients told him
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28:11 - 28:15of their having been seduced by some older person
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28:15 - 28:18who had already matured sexually,
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28:18 - 28:22and that these were the basis of traumatic memories
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28:22 - 28:24that caused hysteria.
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28:24 - 28:30It was natural for Freud to take these stories at face value
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28:30 - 28:35because at that particular time, it was believed
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28:35 - 28:38that the sexual life of the individual began with puberty.
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28:38 - 28:42Nonetheless, Freud's patients were telling him
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28:42 - 28:47that they had sexual fantasies and sexual wishes during childhood.
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28:47 - 28:50How ever could he explain this
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28:50 - 28:54except with the idea that something must have happened
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28:54 - 28:58to stimulate these individuals, these patients, prematurely
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28:58 - 29:04into sexuality, that is the result of some kind of seduction.
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29:04 - 29:07[Dr. Harold Blum:] Why really should we care about something
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29:07 - 29:10that seems like a rather remote historical question?
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29:10 - 29:12Well, I think the answer is
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29:12 - 29:15some analysts from the time of Freud - on,
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29:15 - 29:19were convinced that Freud gave up the seduction hypothesis
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29:19 - 29:22for purely scientific reasons.
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29:22 - 29:27And once they believed this, his ideas became really doctrine
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29:27 - 29:31within psychoanalysis and then spread to psychology
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29:31 - 29:34and to psychiatry in general, so that his views
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29:34 - 29:36about reality versus fantasy
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29:36 - 29:40came to play an enormous role in our society.
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29:40 - 29:44And they have been taken over from psychiatry and psychology,
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29:44 - 29:46more or less into the general population,
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29:46 - 29:49so that we see this, even in the judicial system,
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29:49 - 29:52when a woman is talking about rape
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29:52 - 29:56or a child is talking about having been abused,
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29:56 - 29:58the first tendency is to believe that this may be
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29:58 - 30:00nothing more than a fantasy.
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30:00 - 30:02Ultimately, that derives from Freud.
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30:07 - 30:09[Narrator:] Many of the controversies surrounding Freud
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30:09 - 30:12have centered on the question of whether psychoanalysis
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30:12 - 30:14is a science.
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30:14 - 30:18Freud, himself, thought it had broader applications.
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30:18 - 30:20In the years following his major publications
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30:20 - 30:22on childhood sexuality,
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30:22 - 30:24Freud applied psychoanalytic principles to
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30:24 - 30:29religion, history, literature, and anthropology.
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30:29 - 30:32He also had created a new model of the mind:
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30:32 - 30:35the id, ego, and superego.
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30:35 - 30:36These three forces represented the
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30:36 - 30:40interplay of passion, rationality, and moral judgment.
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30:40 - 30:44His ideas were so powerful that many intellectuals
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30:44 - 30:46were drawn to psychoanalysis as a way to understand
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30:46 - 30:50larger, social, and philosophical questions:
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30:50 - 30:55war and peace, love and hate, religion and morality.
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30:58 - 31:00Freud often spend his summers in the country
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31:00 - 31:01outside of Vienna.
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31:06 - 31:11He found comfort spending time with his wife, their six children,
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31:11 - 31:12and a loyal group of friends,
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31:12 - 31:15including Princess Marie Bonaparte of Greece,
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31:15 - 31:17whom Freud had analyzed.
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31:18 - 31:20Initially, a small group of adventurous followers
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31:20 - 31:24gathered around him, some famous and some not.
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31:24 - 31:26But, they attracted attention to Freud
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31:26 - 31:29and the new field of psychoanalysis.
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31:30 - 31:33[Peter Gay:] Freud was, let's say, the first ten years
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31:33 - 31:37of psychoanalytic practice, let us say from the middle of the 1890s
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31:37 - 31:39to 1905-6, anything but famous.
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31:40 - 31:42He may have exaggerated a little bit how isolated he was.
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31:42 - 31:44He had admirers.
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31:44 - 31:50By 1906-7, there were in fact even some distinguished, professional admirers.
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31:50 - 31:54[Narrator:] By 1911, the International Association of Analysts
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31:54 - 31:56had grown up around Freud.
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31:56 - 31:58Psychoanalysis was largely rejected by
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31:58 - 32:00the traditional scientific community.
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32:00 - 32:03These early analysts saw themselves at the forefront
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32:03 - 32:06of a new intellectual movement
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32:06 - 32:09and they banded together against a hostile outside world.
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32:10 - 32:13But, there was also dissent within the group.
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32:13 - 32:16Carl Jung, one of Freud's most ardent admirers,
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32:16 - 32:18claimed that Freud had over-emphasized
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32:18 - 32:21the importance of childhood sexuality.
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32:21 - 32:25And later, Karen Horney, another analyst,
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32:25 - 32:28who had charged that Freud had grossly misunderstood female psychology,
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32:28 - 32:32a charge that was echoed throughout the coming years.
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32:33 - 32:36World War I became a turning point in the history
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32:36 - 32:37of psychoanalysis.
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32:37 - 32:40Overnight, it gained wider credibility.
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32:40 - 32:42Techniques derived from psychoanalysis
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32:42 - 32:44were thought to be useful in treating soldiers
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32:44 - 32:47who had been shell-shocked in battle.
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32:47 - 32:52After WWI, European interest in Freudian methods grew.
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32:52 - 32:55In Berlin, the first training institute was opened.
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32:57 - 33:00In Vienna, a psychoanalytic clinic was started
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33:00 - 33:02by the members of the Vienna Society.
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33:07 - 33:10These institutes were essential to the growth of psychoanalysis,
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33:10 - 33:13but Frank Sulloway contends there was a price to be paid.
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33:16 - 33:22[Frank Sulloway:] Freud and his followers took a very crucial step
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33:22 - 33:28in the 1920s, approximately, when they decided to
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33:28 - 33:30have their own institutes for training,
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33:30 - 33:35given hostility to psychoanalysis within the universities
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33:35 - 33:38to establish their own centers of learning and of training
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33:38 - 33:40outside of universities.
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33:40 - 33:44This, essentially, removed psychoanalysis from a 2,000 year tradition
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33:44 - 33:47of criticism and growth of knowledge.
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33:47 - 33:49And I think for Freud, it was a short-term gain.
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33:49 - 33:52Psychoanalysis proliferated with its own teaching mechanisms
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33:52 - 33:56but it was a long-term disaster, I think.
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33:56 - 33:59[Narrator:] The 1920's were an exciting time for psychoanalysis.
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33:59 - 34:03Many analysts, like Franz Alexander of the Berlin Institute,
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34:03 - 34:07would eventually leave Europe and spread psychoanalysis to America.
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34:08 - 34:11A. A. Brill, an American analyst, had translated
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34:11 - 34:14most of Freud's work into English.
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34:15 - 34:19Ernest Jones, Freud's biographer, would help found
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34:19 - 34:22the American Psychoanalytic Association.
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34:22 - 34:25In Europe, Psychoanalysis generally remained outside
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34:25 - 34:27the medical and academic establishments.
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34:27 - 34:30But, in America, it would be different.
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34:30 - 34:33[Frank Sulloway:] The American reception and interpretation of Freud
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34:33 - 34:38was a very optimistic reception and interpretation.
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34:38 - 34:41American analysts often believed that they could cure
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34:41 - 34:45the most severe of neuroses, even psychoses,
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34:45 - 34:47that they could treat, for example, schizophrenics.
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34:47 - 34:50This was something Freud had never felt.
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34:50 - 34:53There was something about psychoanalysis
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34:53 - 34:56that suggested to Americans, as representatives
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34:56 - 34:59of a new nation, of a frontier nation,
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34:59 - 35:02a wonderful buoyant optimism about the mind
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35:02 - 35:05and the kinds of things that doctors could do for the mind.
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35:05 - 35:08[Narrator:] The press played a role in popularizing psychoanalysis.
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35:08 - 35:11Sometimes, in a sensational way.
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35:11 - 35:13By the 1930's, most Americans were at least familiar
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35:13 - 35:16with Freud and his new psychology.
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35:19 - 35:21[Peter Gay:] The magazines were interested in
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35:21 - 35:22the sensational figure.
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35:22 - 35:25There he was, this bearded Viennese doctor,
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35:25 - 35:28talking about sex all the time, so it seemed.
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35:28 - 35:31Encouraging promiscuity, he seemed to be just perfect
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35:31 - 35:36for the 1920's and the age of Fitzgerald and so on.
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35:36 - 35:38This, of course, had nothing to do with
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35:38 - 35:40the austerity of his doctrine or
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35:40 - 35:43something that didn't bother the Weekly's
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35:43 - 35:44or even the newspapers at all.
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35:44 - 35:46[Dr. Joseph Wortis:] Everybody was reading books
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35:46 - 35:50about the psychoanalysis and trying to understand their own problems
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35:50 - 35:52in this way.
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35:52 - 35:57And this kind of accommodated themselves to this interest
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35:57 - 36:02by concentrating themselves on psychoanalytic techniques.
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36:02 - 36:06It was very well-suited to the demands of private practice.
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36:06 - 36:10Psychiatrists would only need to have a hotel room
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36:10 - 36:11to practice in.
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36:11 - 36:15And there seemed to be an endless demand for services
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36:15 - 36:17for psychoanalytic treatment.
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36:17 - 36:19[Man:] "May I have your last name?"
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36:20 - 36:23[Narrator:] During WWII, American army psychiatrists
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36:23 - 36:26used a modified form of psychoanalysis in
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36:26 - 36:29combination with other techniques to treat soldiers.
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36:29 - 36:32In the 40's and 50's, there was an increased interest
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36:32 - 36:35in psychotherapies, or "talking" therapies, which were
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36:35 - 36:37based in psychoanalytic theory.
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36:37 - 36:43[Doctor:] "I noticed you saw a vision of your father.
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36:43 - 36:47Tell me something about that. What happened?"
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36:47 - 36:52[Patient:] "Well, I guess it was a dream."
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36:52 - 36:55[Doctor:] "Well, describe the dream. What did you see in the dream?"
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36:55 - 36:59[Patient:] "I dreamt that I was home. My brother was home."
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36:59 - 37:02[Narrator:] After the war, it was considered prestigious
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37:02 - 37:05for psychiatrists to enhance their medical education
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37:05 - 37:07with 6 to 10 years of additional training
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37:07 - 37:09at an analytic institute.
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37:12 - 37:15[Narrator:] This introductory training film was made in 1962
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37:15 - 37:19by analysts from the Chicago Institute to demonstrate
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37:19 - 37:22the proper methods of working with patients.
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37:22 - 37:24[Patient:] "I don't know whether I need to be here or not.
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37:24 - 37:29As a matter of fact, I've had a little trouble with jobs,
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37:29 - 37:33but that's about all."
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37:33 - 37:36[Doctor:] "Just jobs?"
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37:36 - 37:39[Narrator:] Analysts were taught the techniques of free association
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37:39 - 37:41and transference.
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37:41 - 37:45These techniques continued to distinguish psychoanalysis
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37:45 - 37:48and analytically-based therapies from the growing number
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37:48 - 37:50of other "talking" therapies.
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37:50 - 37:54Analysts believed, as did Freud, that an individual
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37:54 - 37:58develops complex patterns of behavior early in life
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37:58 - 38:00and that these patterns inevitably surface
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38:00 - 38:04in the analysis through the process of transference.
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38:04 - 38:07[Patient:] "I get this feeling lately that you're critical of me,
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38:07 - 38:14that you're hounding me, that you're down on me
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38:14 - 38:15about something.
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38:17 - 38:19What did I do that was so bad?
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38:24 - 38:25I don't know what brings this on.
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38:25 - 38:28Over and over, the same troubles.
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38:28 - 38:28Now, you.
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38:32 - 38:34I don't know how to handle situations like this.
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38:34 - 38:37I'm just stumped. I've been thinking maybe I better
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38:37 - 38:38clear out.
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38:38 - 38:42Maybe you and I ought to call the thing quits.
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38:42 - 38:46Just like the jobs. Just like my old man.
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38:46 - 38:50I just had to get out of the family and forget about it."
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38:50 - 38:53[Narrator:] During the 1950's and 60's, pyschoanalysis
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38:53 - 38:56was considered by many to be the preferred form of treatment
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38:56 - 38:59for people with emotional problems.
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38:59 - 39:01But, it was expensive and lengthy.
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39:01 - 39:03It required four to five sessions a week
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39:03 - 39:05for at least two years.
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39:05 - 39:08And, even during a period of relative success,
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39:08 - 39:11psychoanalysis was under attack.
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39:11 - 39:15In 1952, an article appeared stating that the outcome
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39:15 - 39:18for a patient undergoing an analysis was no better
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39:18 - 39:22than that of someone who had received no therapy.
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39:22 - 39:25The article, by the British behavioral psychologist,
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39:25 - 39:28Hans Eysenck, was later refuted.
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39:28 - 39:32But, criticism like this challenged psychoanalysis
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39:32 - 39:34to demonstrate its effectiveness through controlled
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39:34 - 39:36scientific studies.
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39:39 - 39:41For Freud, his patients confirmed his ideas.
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39:42 - 39:45They provided him with the material to develop
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39:45 - 39:47the theory of psychoanalysis.
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39:47 - 39:49And, what his patients revealed in their sessions,
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39:49 - 39:51proved its validity.
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39:51 - 39:53Although Freud saw hundreds of patients, he only
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39:53 - 39:57wrote extensive cases for 12 of them.
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39:57 - 40:00These 12 cases and the case-study method
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40:00 - 40:04became the foundation of psychoanalytic training.
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40:04 - 40:07Today, many analysts still consider the case-study method
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40:07 - 40:09sufficient proof.
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40:11 - 40:12[Dr. Jacob Arlow:] Freud's standard of proof
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40:12 - 40:17was the conclusions that he could draw from the data
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40:17 - 40:21that he got within the analytic situation
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40:21 - 40:23while he was treating patients.
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40:23 - 40:27This is the investigative tool of psychoanalysis.
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40:27 - 40:33There is no way of drawing conclusions about psychoanalytic
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40:33 - 40:38hypotheses if you leave out the data that you get
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40:38 - 40:40from the analytic situation.
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40:40 - 40:43[Frank Sulloway:] They're not proving anything by listening to patients
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40:43 - 40:45confirm their expectations.
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40:45 - 40:47in rigorous ways.
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40:45 - 40:46This isn't proof we're testing in
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40:47 - 40:52Psychoanalysis needs to get itself back into
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40:52 - 40:54settings where it can be tested in experimental
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40:54 - 40:56and extra-clinical ways.
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40:56 - 40:59It needs to take a hard look at areas of the theory
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40:59 - 41:03that have been problematical and it needs to go on
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41:03 - 41:06and I think the hardest thing is for the analysts themselves to do this.
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41:06 - 41:08They don't have the kind of training or background
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41:08 - 41:12to treat psychoanalysis as the kind of natural science
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41:12 - 41:13it once was.
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41:14 - 41:16[Peter Gay:] I think, in part, the attitude towards
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41:16 - 41:19experimentation, this negative attitude,
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41:19 - 41:22was, if the word 'fault' is correct, Freud's own fault.
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41:22 - 41:25But, one might argue that the continuation of this attitude,
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41:25 - 41:28to the extent of it persists, is the responsibility
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41:28 - 41:31of those who don't cut themselves loose from Freud
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41:31 - 41:34simply on the grounds that Freud himself had said this
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41:34 - 41:35and that's good enough for them.
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41:35 - 41:38And we all know that that's not what would be called
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41:38 - 41:39a scientific attitude, for sure.
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41:42 - 41:45[Narrator:] Although psychoanalysis was the original form of psychotherapy,
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41:45 - 41:48it is among the least practiced today.
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41:48 - 41:53The American Psychoanalytic Association, with its membership of 2,500,
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41:53 - 41:56is small compared to the number of mental health professionals
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41:56 - 41:57in this country.
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41:58 - 42:01There is an intense pressure on this community
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42:01 - 42:03to prove the effectiveness of psychoanalysis.
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42:05 - 42:07But, providing proof is difficult.
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42:08 - 42:10The length and private nature of the process
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42:10 - 42:13do not lend themselves easily to scientific scrutiny.
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42:14 - 42:17How, then, should psychoanalysis be assessed today?
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42:17 - 42:20There are many differing views, including those held by critics
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42:20 - 42:22who are themselves, analysts.
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42:23 - 42:25Dr. Thomas Szasz.
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42:25 - 42:28[Szasz:] Well, what Freud developed or what he contended
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42:28 - 42:31that he develop, really are two interlocking systems.
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42:31 - 42:34One, a theory of human behavior, both normal
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42:34 - 42:36and abnormal.
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42:36 - 42:42And a system of therapy, of treating and relieving mental diseases.
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42:44 - 42:47Now, he felt that these were mutually confirmatory.
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42:48 - 42:51In my view, so-called psychoanalytic theory,
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42:51 - 42:55was not really qualified at all as a scientific theory
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42:55 - 42:57because it is more like a "Weltanschauung,"
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42:57 - 43:03an ideology of how human beings should be and should behave.
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43:03 - 43:06That is legitimate, but that is not science.
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43:06 - 43:10It's an ideology - perhaps it is the best modern word for it.
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43:10 - 43:11It's a secular religion.
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43:11 - 43:16Now, the therapy, again, unless one believes that
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43:16 - 43:18there is an illness which is being treated,
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43:18 - 43:22it's not a therapy but a way of helping people.
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43:22 - 43:24And the two are actually really quite simple.
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43:24 - 43:26It is quite possible to accept a great deal
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43:26 - 43:32of therapeutic ideas and methods
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43:32 - 43:34and reject virtually all of the theory,
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43:34 - 43:35which is my position.
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43:36 - 43:38[Narrator:] The body of scientific evidence
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43:38 - 43:43to support Freudian theory, is so far small and inconclusive.
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43:43 - 43:46At the Yale Child Study Center in New Haven,
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43:46 - 43:48researchers are exploring aspects of Freudian theory
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43:48 - 43:50by observing young children.
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43:52 - 43:55The study focuses on 4-6 year olds,
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43:55 - 43:58the age Freud called the most critical phase of development,
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43:58 - 43:59the Oedipal stage.
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44:01 - 44:04These researchers acknowledge the importance of many factors
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44:04 - 44:06in the growth of the child.
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44:06 - 44:11But, like Freud, they see sexual conflict as a key factor,
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44:11 - 44:17conflict having to do with sexual identity and feelings toward their parents.
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44:21 - 44:25The sessions are videotaped to be studied later.
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44:25 - 44:32[Child:] "He has little pants, exactly a girl with a short haircut.
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44:33 - 44:36Can you put this on? Can you put this on please?
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44:37 - 44:44A dress with pants. Have you ever seen that?"
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44:45 - 44:47[Doctor:] "Have you?"
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44:47 - 44:48[Child:] "Yes."
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44:51 - 44:53[Narrator:] The research team studies the tapes,
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44:53 - 44:56looking for the language patterns, the interaction the child has
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44:56 - 44:59with her analyst, and themes in her play.
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44:59 - 45:02They believe these act as clues to understanding
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45:02 - 45:03a child's inner feelings,
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45:03 - 45:06especially relating to sexual identity.
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45:06 - 45:09[Doctor:] "She's working out if it's a boy or a girl,
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45:09 - 45:12and she says at first that it's a boy.
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45:12 - 45:16She then takes the pants down and says, 'No, it's a girl.'
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45:16 - 45:19And she's able to deal with the incongruity
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45:19 - 45:24by saying, 'Well, it's a girl with short hair and pants.'
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45:24 - 45:30I think that the curiosity and perhaps some of the conflict
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45:30 - 45:34that one sees in children at this age is something that she's
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45:34 - 45:36working on in this moment."
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45:37 - 45:40[Narrator:] The methods of this study depends on observation
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45:40 - 45:43and interpretation by the researchers,
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45:43 - 45:44most of whom are analysts.
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45:45 - 45:49The study may be useful in expanding upon Freud's ideas,
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45:49 - 45:53but it does not meet the rigorous demands of the scientific method.
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45:54 - 45:58Other researchers are conducting controlled experiments
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45:58 - 46:00and the evidence provided by these studies has moved
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46:00 - 46:03the field of child development beyond Freud.
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46:04 - 46:05Dr. Jerome Kagan.
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46:06 - 46:10[Kagan:] Freud was perhaps the boldest theorist
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46:10 - 46:13we've had in psychology.
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46:13 - 46:18He believed strongly that the major determinants
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46:18 - 46:24of the child's normal growth and pathological growth
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46:24 - 46:28could be fixed to certain experiences in the opening years of life.
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46:28 - 46:31But, he ignored the maturational changes that
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46:31 - 46:34are occurring in the child's central nervous system
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46:34 - 46:38that permit new mental or intellectual abilities,
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46:38 - 46:40and those, in turn, permit the child to relate
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46:40 - 46:43him or herself to the parents and to the outside world.
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46:44 - 46:47And that, it seems to me, was the mistake that he made
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46:47 - 46:50in the rest of his theorizing by trying to make
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46:50 - 46:56sexual energy, sexual conflict, sexual anxiety
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46:56 - 47:00the key central primary cause of both normal
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47:00 - 47:02and pathological development.
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47:03 - 47:06[Narrator:] Dr. Kagan and his colleagues at Harvard University
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47:06 - 47:10believe that early experience is important in the development
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47:10 - 47:12of the individual.
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47:12 - 47:15But, they also believe that the genetic make-up of a child
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47:15 - 47:18can be a contributor to the development of
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47:18 - 47:19personality traits.
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47:21 - 47:24The researchers here use observational methods
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47:24 - 47:27along with other experimental techniques
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47:27 - 47:28to gather information about a child's
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47:28 - 47:31predisposition to certain emotions like
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47:31 - 47:35boldness, shyness, and in this case, anxiety.
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47:41 - 47:46These tests are designed to meet the criteria of the experimental method.
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47:46 - 47:50They have control groups, are repeatable, and provide data
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47:50 - 47:53from which researchers can predict behavior.
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47:54 - 47:56Advances in the field of psychology and biology
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47:56 - 47:59are now beginning to answer some of the same questions
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47:59 - 48:02posed by Freud almost 100 years ago.
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48:04 - 48:07In England, a nobel laureate and one of the scientists
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48:07 - 48:11who discovered the structure of DNA, Dr. Francis Crick,
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48:11 - 48:14has turned his attention to the study of the brain,
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48:14 - 48:16including memory and dreams.
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48:16 - 48:18How does he assess Freud?
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48:19 - 48:21[Dr. Francis Crick:] Freud was a very strange case
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48:21 - 48:23because he started off being interested in
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48:23 - 48:26the physiology of the brain
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48:26 - 48:30and wanting to try to relate that physiology to psychology.
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48:30 - 48:33And he wrote an essay on this, so-called "Project."
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48:33 - 48:36What we know is, is that the ideas he had about physiology
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48:36 - 48:38were really wrong.
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48:38 - 48:41When you look at the ideas, they don't seem very plausible,
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48:41 - 48:42at least not to me.
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48:42 - 48:47But, they seemed to be based on an old-fashioned idea of the mind
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48:47 - 48:51and people interested in information processing as I do,
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48:51 - 48:53would regard as rather naive
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48:53 - 48:56and heavily culturally determined, let's put it that way.
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48:56 - 48:59Which, of course, is why he had such a great appeal.
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48:59 - 49:01Mind you, he did have insights.
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49:01 - 49:05He did make people realize a lot of their behavior,
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49:05 - 49:08their motives for their behavior wasn't what they thought they were.
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49:08 - 49:11He did make it clear that people were more influenced
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49:11 - 49:14by sexual reasons in the 19th century
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49:14 - 49:15than they were prepared to admit.
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49:15 - 49:17Maybe it's different nowadays, and so on.
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49:17 - 49:19And a lot of other things of that sort.
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49:19 - 49:21But, if you ask in strict scientific terms,
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49:21 - 49:24I'd very surprised if much of it survives.
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49:24 - 49:27Freud thought that dreams were wish fulfillment.
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49:27 - 49:30He thought that was his great idea.
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49:30 - 49:32But, when you read his account and how
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49:32 - 49:35he had to twist things to fit the theory,
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49:35 - 49:38it's very difficult to accept this.
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49:38 - 49:43And I'm not sure that all Freudians now accept that key idea of his.
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49:43 - 49:47And then, of course, he had other aspects of dreams,
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49:47 - 49:49some of which are more complex
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49:49 - 49:53and we would feel that that's all too fancy,
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49:53 - 49:55that it's all too easy to interpret dreams
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49:55 - 49:59without having any check on what the interpretation is.
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49:59 - 50:01So, we're inclined to leave all that on one side
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50:01 - 50:03and say that's for the future.
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50:03 - 50:06We understand so little of the brain at the moment,
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50:06 - 50:09it's really a waste of time inventing all these things.
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50:09 - 50:12People love to do it, but in the past,
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50:12 - 50:16they liked to believe that dreams foretold the future.
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50:16 - 50:19Very few people believe that now, but they like to think
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50:19 - 50:22there's some deep significance in their dreams.
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50:22 - 50:25We would think it's just an accidental by-product
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50:25 - 50:28produced by random waves and so on and you
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50:28 - 50:30shouldn't read too much into it.
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50:30 - 50:33[Dr. Szosz:] I agree, as many of the most prominent
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50:33 - 50:38natural scientists, biologists, and philosophers of science
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50:38 - 50:43who have contended that psychoanalysis is not a science.
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50:43 - 50:46It has nothing to do with science.
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50:46 - 50:49It is an ideology and it is, of course, significant,
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50:49 - 50:53not for it being a science or for its impact on science,
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50:53 - 50:54which I think is real,
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50:54 - 50:56but as a cultural phenomenon.
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50:56 - 50:57It's a historical phenomenon.
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50:57 - 51:00It's obvious that psychoanalysis and Freud,
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51:00 - 51:04and here, one nearly should compare him to someone like Marx,
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51:04 - 51:07or other religious figures who had a tremendous impact
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51:07 - 51:08on how we live today.
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51:08 - 51:11[Peter Gay:] The issue, really, is one of names here
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51:11 - 51:14which I think is not where we should stay.
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51:14 - 51:15Is it a science or not?
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51:15 - 51:18The question really is this: Are these assertions
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51:18 - 51:19made by psychoanalysts, let's see,
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51:19 - 51:22either the global ones, such as the development of a child
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51:22 - 51:26through various stages, or the more narrow ones,
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51:26 - 51:30namely, the interpretations the analyst makes during the hour.
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51:30 - 51:32Are they in any sense reliable?
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51:32 - 51:36Or are they just ad hoc assertions that you could read about in a novel?
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51:36 - 51:38And agree because they're well-stated or
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51:38 - 51:41disagree because they're not well-stated.
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51:41 - 51:43And I would think that one would have to suggest is
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51:43 - 51:47that the kind of organized discipline or science
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51:47 - 51:51that psychoanalysis claims to be, and I think with justice,
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51:51 - 51:55is one in which proof and disproof are extremely difficult
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51:55 - 51:58given the nature of the material, but that any other psychology
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51:58 - 52:02dealing with fundamental human mental realities
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52:02 - 52:03faces the same problem.
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52:06 - 52:10[Narrator:] In 1936, Freud celebrated his golden wedding anniversary
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52:10 - 52:12with his wife, Martha.
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52:16 - 52:18They were surrounded by friends and a family
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52:18 - 52:20that now included many grandchildren.
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52:22 - 52:25But, this was one of the last celebrations Freud was to hold
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52:25 - 52:27near his home in Vienna.
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52:28 - 52:31In 1938, when the Nazis invaded Austria,
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52:31 - 52:32he fled to England.
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52:35 - 52:37In London, Freud was a celebrity.
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52:38 - 52:40He was honored by the royal society.
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52:42 - 52:44They asked him to sign the official charter book
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52:44 - 52:46in which his name would appear with the signatures
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52:46 - 52:48of Isaac Newton and Charles Darwin.
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52:50 - 52:53He was considered for a Nobel Prize several times
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52:53 - 52:54but was never chosen.
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52:56 - 52:59The award he valued most was the Goethe Prize,
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52:59 - 53:02given not for his scientific contribution,
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53:02 - 53:04but for his literary achievements.
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53:05 - 53:07Freud had become the most famous psychologist
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53:07 - 53:08in the world,
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53:08 - 53:10but he never achieved the full acceptance
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53:10 - 53:12of the scientific community.
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53:14 - 53:17These films are among the last taken of Freud.
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53:17 - 53:20This was the occasion of his 83rd birthday.
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53:20 - 53:25He was quite frail, exhausted from a 16-year battle with cancer.
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53:26 - 53:30He died at his home on September 23, 1939.
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53:34 - 53:36In one of the only recordings of his voice,
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53:37 - 53:39Freud summarized his life's work.
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53:39 - 53:40[Freud's voice reading the following]
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