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[MUSIC]
Hello and welcome, thanks for joining us.
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We are broadcasting from the Thomas K
McKeon Center for
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Creativity, and I am your host, Corey D
Taylor.
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Music, music, music are the words that I
think about when I
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think of the great state of Oklahoma.
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The world is quickly become more aware
that Oklahoma has produced some of
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the world's brightest music stars, and
today that awareness lives on.
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Today our guest is yet
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again another musical group that is coming
straight out of Oklahoma.
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They are Shaw.
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Shaw is a singing group made up of a
father and
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his sons and they are on the rise.
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You don't want to miss this interview and
it's gonna be interesting.
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So stay tuned because this is Oklahoma Up
Close.
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[MUSIC]
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Welcome back, we are here with Lester L2
Shaw and Retsel Shaw and
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they are members of the singing group
Shaw.
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Fellas, how are you doing today?
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>> Great.
>> Doing good man, how about yourself?
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>> I am doing good man, and I am excited
to have you guys on
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because you have been doing some
interesting stuff,
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I got a chance to see your video, If There
Ain't No Beauty Make Some.
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How did you all come up with that concept
that a song because it's real catchy it
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kind of got like a old school vibe to it
so
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how did you all come up with that concept
of the song?
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>> Well, we're actually saying cuz we,
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we actually say that with the kids is
pocket full of hope.
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>> Okay.
>> If there ain't no beauty, make some.
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>> Okay.
>> And I came back from,
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from Atlanta one time and it just stuck
with me.
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And I, I actually have a story.
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I was talking to my, my, my kids in
Atlanta.
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And I had to hang up the phone instantly.
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I don't hang up on my, on my kids, but I
had just hung, I had to hang up and
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go right to voice memo.
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[MUSIC]
If there ain't no beauty make some, yeah,
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yeah, if there ain't no beauty make some.
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[MUSIC]
Yeah, yeah, then called him back, and
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the next day, you know, I end up meeting
the producer at Booker T.
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I went up to Booker T.
Washington to talk to the kids and
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he was there and I says yo, I have been
looking for you for like.
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A whole week, I need to get this song
done.
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It came back that monday, which was my
birthday,
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February 24th and it took us about, what?
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Not even 3 or 4 hours to get the whole
thing done.
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>> Right, okay.
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>> And man, the song came out nice, my
dad.
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You know, with these, with these lyrics.
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>> Right.
>> And the verses
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that he made it, made it popping.
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My brother, you know, he's, he's, you
know, engineered-
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>> Right.
>> He, Tell them about some of-
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>> Well you know, I'm the the best.
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[LAUGH] Teddy, you know I am the best.
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>> I am a certified Pro Tools engineer.
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>> Okay good, that is big, still industry
standard, Pro Tools?
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>> Yes sir.
>> You have mentioned something,
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I wanna say this,
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you talked about pocket full of hope,
elaborate, what is pocket full of hope?
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>> A Pocket Full of Hope is a non-profit.
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You know, we work with kids through music,
theater and dance.
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>> Oh, okay.
>> And videography.
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We teach them,
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teach them life skills, through music,
theater, dance and videography.
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You know, my father's a, is a, is a
executive, you know.
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We've been going for 14 years strong.
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We have a 100% graduation rate, from sixth
grade to.
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You know, 12th and they basically get the
same love and
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attention that we got as kids.
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>> Okay.
>> You know cuz I went to school.
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I went to 9th grade with backpack full of
tapes.
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You know we had, we had our own tape out
in, in like [CROSSTALK] fifth grade.
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>> Yeah, fifth grade.
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>> Yeah, we were opening up for you know,
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everybody that came in the city whether it
was a.
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Joe OJay's.
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You know we had that luxury to, to do
that, based off of my Dad's experience.
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>> Okay.
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>> You know, and, I'm talking about, it
was,
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it was times when we would get whippings
for not singing.
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>> No, and don't tell me y'all were like
some Jackson 5 types.
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[LAUGH].
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>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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>> Wait a minute.
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Stop for a minute.
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That's real interesting because.
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We had Tony Mason on, and [LAUGH], and he
has the same similar story.
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>> Yeah.
>> So Tony Mason, North Tulsa.
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You all North Tulsa.
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>> Uh-huh.
>> So is that just kind of
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a thing that it's m, music is that
serious?
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>> It's, yes.
>> That it
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takes on a Joe Jackson mentality with the
dance?
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>> Yes.
It's that serious,
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especially when, when you, you.
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You see your kids at home doing all steps
and singing bababa, steps.
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And you get out in public and you want to
show off your kids.
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And your kids doing all like this, man.
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>> [LAUGH]
>> You know, no.
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I ain't having that, you
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know?
>> Like wow.
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>> We practice too hard
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for that, you know?
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>> Wow.
>> Give it to them.
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Every chance [SOUND] you get, you gotta
give it to them, you know?
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>> Now what you're saying, you said you
know, you all were exposed to this in
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opening up for some popular 90s group like
Jodecy and Think and what have you.
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Tell me about this, where did the music, I
know your dad influenced it.
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But so many kids start off in music, I
being one, but never stick to it.
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For you all to stick to it this long, what
inspired you all to stay with it?
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Because it's a hard business to be in, so
what inspired you all.
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>> Yeah.
>> To keep with the music?
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>> It's the love.
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>> Yeah, that's what I was about to say
that.
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>> It's the love for it because Even when
I'm hoarse and I can't sing, or,
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you know, I'm sick, you know, I'm like I
can't use my voice, I can't sing.
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I can't, you know, I sing to my kids.
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I sing, I sing to relieve stress.
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I sing to get through things.
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You know, I mean, so.
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It's and then it's, it's, it's universal.
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You know, we we walk into this this
restaurant and
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everybody's in there speaking Spanish.
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And I'm trying to get some lamb chops.
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I mean, they're walking around 30 minutes
trying to,
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you know, lamb, lamb, lamb, lamb.
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Not until I started singing Mary had a
Little Lamb.
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Is when they understood all these lamb
chops.
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>> Wow yeah.
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>> You know, what I'm saying how many
pounds you know?
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>> Yeah.
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>> Chops.
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>> [LAUGH].
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>> I know that one.
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>> Right.
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>> But yeah it's universal man it's the
love the feeling, you know,
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it it can help us get through anything
pretty much man it really has man.
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You know, even my, my Atlanta life.
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>> Right.
>> Going out there and
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a lot of people don't know we slept in the
car the first nine months.
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>> Wow.
>> Selling CDs.
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>> Wow.
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>> Selling CDs.
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>> And when you say Atlanta and I'm going
to ask Red Cell a question.
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But I wanna talk about Atlanta because
you.
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Are, are you back in Tulsa now?
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Because I know you're from North Tulsa but
are you back her enow for a moment or
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are you still going back and forth to
Atlanta?
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>> Back and forth.
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>> Okay so when you say we went to
Atlanta, we slept in the car.
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Who is we?
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>> Session.
You know Session Hill?
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>> Dupre?
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Yeah. Mm-hm. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Me, me and Sas, we went up there and And
just made it happen, man I went out there
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in '05 and seen how easy it was to talk to
these people, like, you know, you see, you
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know, your favorite artist in the grocery
store or in the former basketball court.
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I met R Kelly playing basketball.
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And I mean just being yourself, doing what
you love doing.
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You're gonna run into whoever you run
into, because they're in that area.
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>> Did you win?
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[LAUGH].
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>> Man, let me tell you, I got a star at
14.
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I got a star at 14.
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>> Because R.Kelly, you know, he went to
the CVA.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And he played.
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So I want to know wha, what, what level of
skills did you have?
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Does, did he beat you or did you win?
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>> No, come on baby.
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Ray was there.
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So listen I'm, I got a story I'd like to,
here you go.
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So.
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Polow, Polow da Don, that is a producer,
shout out to Polow, he called me, it is 12
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o'clock at night, and so gym called rent a
shoot up there, it is a 24 hour gym.
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He called me L, R.Kelly is in town man,
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and every time they come to town they
always win because he brings his five,
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I need some of your energy, and at the
time I am looking like, yo this is Kells.
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[LAUGH].
I hadn't met him,
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I hadn't worked with him.
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Am nice on the court.
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I'm on my way.
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>> Right.
>> So I leave from where I was.
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I picked up my brother and I picked up my
other boy, Rico.
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Rico Hawkins.
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And we get there, they had, they had lost
the game.
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The first game they lost.
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They'd sub me in.
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First game I hit eight.
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Boom.
We win.
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The second game, I hit nine.
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We win.
At this time,
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Kale is just like, who's this?
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Do I, do you all need me to stick him?
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>> [LAUGH].
>> Do you all need me to stick him?
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Let me kill him.
>> That's Kelly Mann.
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>> Yeah, yeah the man.
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>> Come on over.
Come on over.
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The last game I had to pit in ten, but the
game went at deuce.
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And that allowed Kales to come to me and
say yo, good game.
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>> Mm-hm.
>> You play ball?
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I said no, I don't play ball.
I do music.
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And I, I got my iPod over here in the
stand, let me.
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>> [LAUGH]
>> Yeah.
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>> Let me, let you hear
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some of this music.
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>> The same was
>> You know what I'm saying?
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Bong, but he said all right.
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Go get Drama, come holler at your boy.
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He came and hollered at me and I played
like three songs for him and
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gave him his cell phone number and the
number to studio, and
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a couple years later, man we was Grammy
nominated for a song we did with R.Kelly.
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>> Oh, that is nice.
So, we talked a little about your dad,
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which is Dr. Shaw for those who don't
know, he is actually a doctor for real,
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they call him Doc Shaw but he actually has
a doctorate degree, so.
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People think, sometimes, with music, that
entertainers are not that intelligent and
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they're just out there, but this is an
educated man.
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>> Right.
>> But I still have,
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I still have a question for you.
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You're the youngest.
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>> Yeah.
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>> What is that like?
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Here it is: Your dad, he's doing his
thing, he's out there.
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Then your brother, he's going to Atlanta.
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You were there, but he's making these
connections.
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Didn't you feel any pressure?
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What was it like growing up under that
type of pressure?
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Cuz it had to be pressure.
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>> Yeah well I'm always, I've always been
able to, to,
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I've been well how can I say this?
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I'm good at handling pressure, you know
what I mean, like, we've always,
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since I was a little boy, you know, we use
singing and you know all that stuff, so.
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I've always had to step back and watch,
you know, my dad and
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brother do their thing.
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When it was my time to shine.
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When, when I step up, you're gonna know I
stepped up.
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You know, I mean.
I'm, I'm going to do my thing, but I'm.
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Let me see.
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They good role models man I mean my dad I
just I don't know man it's,
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it's a big shoe to fill but.
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>> It's definitely some big shoes to fill
because I've,
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I've seen what doctor Shaw has done and
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he just came back from I guess touring
internationally like was it in the UK?
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And I don't know that would be a lot of
pressure that dad is an older man but
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he's out there still doing it and he's
just coming back with all.
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Legends of R&B and doing his thing and
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then, I see TV stuff that you're doing and
the fashion that you're doing.
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And I know that it kind of seem like, man,
like, those are big shoes to fill and
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I got to step my game up.
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So.
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I got a chance to see some of your stuff
and
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you sing and things of that nature so did
Shaw really help you all
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bring together your collective efforts at
what you all were good at.
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>> Right, right [CROSSTALK] and even, even
with what you're saying that we, we.
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By us having our own.
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Routes our own direction, we were able to
go out and
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bring back the resources at one table, and
make this thing happen, like,
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you know, even with, you know, the project
that we are working on with big 10.
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You know, we will be able to bring back
all the people that I have worked with,
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that I have written for, that we open up
for.
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And bring back some love and some needed
music to Tulsa, some real,
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you know, some show enough shows, like it
is going to be easy for us to go,
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like we wanted to see Jagged Edge, well I
am going to go and knock on their door.
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That's another relationship I was able to
build in Atlanta.
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Playing basketball.
>> Playing basketball.
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>> You know what I am saying?
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A lot of this stuff comes from other
skills.
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You know music is just another skill that,
that we do.
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But just living and being able to,
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because having a brother you're able to
compete growing up.
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So we competed with everything, football,
basketball.
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You know, singing, whatever it was, I mean
throwing a rock in the trash can,
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you know, [LAUGH] we are competing, you
know what I mean.
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>> Who can get the rock in?
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>> Yeah, you are gonna start it again.
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>> I am not stopping it until I make it.
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>> So competitive man, and that got us in
a lot,
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that got us through a lot of doors man,
just being competitive and.
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Being, I'll give you a story, Wale.
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I met Wale at, in the club and,
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usually when you see these artists, you're
not gonna approach these people.
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You're not gonna talk to them.
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>> Correct.
>> But being assertive.
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>> Yeah.
>> Knowing that you can,
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you can bring greatness to their situation
as well as them being greatness to you,
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I stepped to him.
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How you doing?
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Lester Shaw.
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Nice to meet you.
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I need to be on your next album.
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He looked at me, he said, okay, you know
where Zach's studio is?
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I said yeah.
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He said, meet me, meet me there tomorrow
at 5:30.
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And I mean, it went just like that.
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Word for word.
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No naw man, oh, you.
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None of that.
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I met him there, he said 5:30, I was there
at five 5:15, sitting there waiting.
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Went and I did three songs with him.
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And one of them ended up on the album.
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Now this guy didn't know me from Adam.
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>> Wow.
>> You know,
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it was just having that confidence.
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Being assertive.
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Having those tools right there gets you in
any door you want to get into man.
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>> Well, I could tell you this, a friend
of mine who is actually my mentor,
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he has been in the music business for
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a long time, and I am pretty sure you are
going to know the name, Dr.
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Bill Hagens, who is another doctor, for
real, but he is also a triple platinum.
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Record producer.
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>> Yes.
>> He said when got into the music
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industry, so many people are disillusioned
because they think it's all about,
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let me put up a YouTube video, I gotta be
the greatest singer in the world.
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He said, but it's not really all that.
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Because the group is so tight-knit.
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It is all about developing relationships,
and
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he said if you can develop relationships,
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[MUSIC]
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he said you will get people that will work
with you, he said because the one
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thing that they can't stand is people who
seem to be opportunistic, he said and
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they will shun them and push them away.
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And as my mentor, that taught me a whole
lot.
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[MUSIC]
Well check this out,
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you said something that is pretty key
here, and I wanna take
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a break really quick because we are going
to come back and finish, all right?
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>> The 911 memorial will honor my partner,
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and any officers who responded that
morning.
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>> It is for my brother.
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And my 343 brothers who didn't make it.
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>> It's about hope for the future.
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>> So we always remember September 11th.
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>> For my husband who never came home.
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>> And the first responders who saved my
life.
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>> This shows the world that we can
rebuild.
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That we are united.
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>> And that we are strong.
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>> Because the best of humanity can
overcome the worst hate.
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>> It's for all the heroes like my dad.
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[MUSIC]
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>> This year, the National September 11th
Memorial opens in New York City.
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Join us to honor, remember and reunite.
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You can help right now by texting the word
hope to 80088 to give $10.
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[MUSIC]
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>> Welcome back.
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And we're here to continue our interview
with Shaun.
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So, L2, which is you as well, but you
said, you said something,
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you start talking about the relationships,
and you know, it's your other skills.
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That have really got you to these tables.
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And you've worked with a lot of different
people.
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You know, I've seen, you know, T.Payne
give you shout outs, and
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for our audience members who don't know, T
Payne is a well renowned producer.
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So, was there ever any pressure, when you
would meet these people?
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I know you, cuz, you know, your swagger's
on point, and
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you went in and like, hey, I need to be on
your next album.
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But, was there a part of you that said.
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I better bring it, like if he gonna let me
in the studio, I am gonna bring it.
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>> no, see I would be in these same areas
working when these guys show up,
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so it is like, we are in the same
building, you know what I mean?
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You just have had more exposure, you know,
but.
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I work with the same artists you work with
you know we work with the same,
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we're in the same, we're using the same
studios.
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You know so it's never no okay
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just like I said it goes back to
competition you know what I'm saying?
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I'm competing with these guys like and I
tell a lot of artists even here in Tulsa I
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don't do music for people just in this
area I do music for the world you know so.
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When you, when I put an album out, I have
to compete with Usher and, and, and
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you know, all these other R&B, B, B cats
out here, because that's where my mind is.
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So it's never with me I don't think, it's
never a pressure when it comes to that.
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Cuz we've been, I was onstage on third
grade, in third grade.
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>> Wow.
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We did, Midnight Train to Georgia.
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>> Like last night.
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>> Yeah.
Like last night.
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I was one of the Pips.
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>> You was one of the Pips?
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Who was Gladys?
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>> Just some, some young lady in South
Carolina.
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>> Oh, yeah?
>> Yeah, yeah.
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But.
>> Going on a midnight train to Georgia.
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I got to know.
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>> Yeah.
You know what I mean?
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Steps and all.
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>> Right, right.
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I got a question for you.
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I have a.
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Another.
I have a ton of questions but.
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>> Mm-hm.
>> You know,
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with you working with all of those
different people I know
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Shaw was the group of you and your father
and
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your brother but have you, do you, do your
work of collaboration extend past Shaw?
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>> It does with the writing it was a
writing team of me Session and
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McGill who were called the council.
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We had Tim Bilski and What is your boy's
name?
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B.
Major, B.
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Major out of Detroit, we would just go and
we would just, we were like pit bulls
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when it came to this music man, out there,
because you should have been in the car,
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if you are not from this area, you have
nothing to lose.
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So say, say there was one, one time when
we worked with with the game in Lula.
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We just happened to see a tour bus sitting
outside the studio.
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So we go knocking on the door.
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[SOUND] Like who do we need to talk to?
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>> [LAUGH].
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>> For you all to hear these records?
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>> Right.
>> Boy, you all are tenacious.
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>> Right.
>> Oh, yeah, sometime, [SOUND].
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>> Let me in.
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>> Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
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And they would accept us in and once.
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We knew our music was so great that once
they heard it there was a rap.
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>> Okay.
>> So
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once they heard our music we ended up
being the producers and
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writers for them that whole day.
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>> Okay.
>> You know,
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which again, which allowed pocket at that
time and it's just amazing how,
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how things, has been work, how it worked.
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When your favorite things like that just
happen man,
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I mean it seem like it just happen.
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But it's like all you gotta do is show up
you know, and like I said with,
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that same day my dad had brought he
brought like 20 kids from,
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from Tulsa to Atlanta.just to, you know,
for that week.
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To, for spring break and just so happened
the first day they got there.
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We're working with Luda and The Game.
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>> Wow.
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So that was a lesson for them to see that.
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Now I wanted to say that,
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cuz you said when you have favor, now
you've not just went, you know,
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you've worked with hip-hop, you've worked
with R&B, both of you.
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>> Mm-hm.
>> But if I'm not mistaken,
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you've worked with some.
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Gospel artists like Tadashi, you know what
is big right now is that Lil Cray,
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shout out to La Cray, he just went to
Jimmy Fallon and
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performed at Jimmy Fallon and he did not
change his style up,
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he is a Christian artist and went to Jimmy
Fallon, but.
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The one thing I noticed when I was doing
more research on you all,
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you also not only were you all performing
on those stages, but
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you all were singing in church when you
were little kids, so talk to me
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a little bit about that, and how has that
transcended into who you are as men today?
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>> Well, you know.
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>> Are you going to say this one?
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>> Yeah, yeah.
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We were in.
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Our group was B5.
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It was like you know me and
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my brother, and our brothers like Joseph
Breona, Mark Breona and Billy Breona.
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And we sung in the church.
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Man I was, I was always the little, you
know,
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the little brother, so I'm soaking up
everything, you know.
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And of course I get picked on, so I had to
be tough, that is why, when you know,
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when you ask me later, is it tough?
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No, I have taken it all in anyway, so, but
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we have been in HIgher Dimension, we sung
in that choir and just picked
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up different things man, my mother was on
us about church and, you know.
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And, I'm thankful for that.
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I mean, just to, I wake up and the first
thing I do is, you know, pray, you know?
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Those types of things of growing up.
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Those values that, you know, we were
taught from church.
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It makes life just that much easier, and
and that and music so.
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I mean.
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>> And I and I think the reason that I
wanted to
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say something about that because the past
guests that I've
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had they all started their kind of their
music love love for music.
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You know, in the church.
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I remember when I used to work with Wayman
Tisdale.
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It was all about a old video of him
playing in the church and
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everybody played in the church.
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And, but, and so what I've heard over the
years is when.
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Artists come to the table, whether it be
R&B and stuff like that.
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It's those church roots in them,
understand the music and
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great tonality and rhythms.
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It is what translate to make them an
artist that set apart from everyone else,
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because they have the melodic musical
background.
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When you were working with these Christian
artists, how did they view you?
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I mean, because you're working in hip-hop,
and
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you're working in urban music of sorts,
you know, and R&B.
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So how did they view you?
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Were they welcoming?
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Because they have a different kind of
standard.
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And I know you were in church, but as an
artist-
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>> Mm-hm.
>> You've experienced a lot of
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stuff that don't have nothing to do with a
church.
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>> [LAUGH]
>> So how did those people view you?
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They they, they never judge.
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Man, it's always been love over there.
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Man, I actually gonna shout out Rich
Records for
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me cause business is great over there.
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You know, those are some real great guys,
man, like they really love the Lord.
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They, and they.
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They, they do it the way they, they, they
do it, you know.
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And in one, one thing I,
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I reached out to him a couple days ago cuz
be here October 2nd.
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>> Okay.
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>> And I just had to thank them for
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thinking of me when they do these projects
because, you know,
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you see him and he's going number one and
Todashi's going number one.
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So greats think alike you know,
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so any, wherever you go man you will not
be denied when you present greatness.
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Straight up and that's just, that's just
how it is man with them guys man.
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>> And so let me so there's a lot of times
when and there's a lot of young people.
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That are out there and
-
everybody, you know since I used to work
in the music industry,
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I get people submit me all kind of demo
tapes, and the quality is not good.
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And so a lot of times, people think that
if I just get a beat machine and
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I just rap or if I just sing, that's it.
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But here it is, red sale, you're saying
I'm certified in Pro Tools, so
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I got education about this whole thing I'm
not just out there doing my thing.
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>> Right.
>> You know, and
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just trying to do a mixtape and hoping
somebody find it.
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It's really strategic on what you guys are
doing.
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And so you have your own project, your dad
has his own project,
-
you got your own project as well.
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But you all brought your resources
together,
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like you mentioned, to become this
collective group, which is Shaw.
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And by the way, I know that's you all's
last name.
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But I'm saying that for
-
people in the audience that haven't put
that correlation together.
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So what are you doing now with your music,
outside of the group Shaw?
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Me?
>> Well, right now I the,
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the latest project I just released is a
nursery rhyme CD.
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I just did a ten song nursery rhyme CD for
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the kids like, Wheels on the Bus Mary had
a Little Lamb, ABC's.
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it's, it's more of like an, an enrichment.
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Program type of,
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you know, some of the classic songs that
we, we learned growing up.
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From that to, you know Gnarly Gear.
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You know, I have a, a clothing line.
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We do custom tees, hoodies, crop tops.
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We're in six boutiques, right now.
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And I've written two books.
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I got two, two kid books that's, that's
coming out.
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And the music, you know, the music doesn't
stop.
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Well, we have a, we have a our own studio
so every day we're in the studio.
-
>> Okay.
>> You know,
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creating and creating, and, and just being
creative.
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And that's pretty much what it's about
man, just being creative, you know?
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>> And what about you?
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Same thing writing for different artists,
you know gotta call to
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write with what's his name he's out in LA
>> [INAUDIBLE].
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>> Not August man his name is.
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I'll come back to it.
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>> Yeah I'll come back to it.
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>> Yeah, yeah.
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It's some, some different people, man Even
with, you know,
-
Abe's relationship with Bangladesh,
different artists that he is working with,
-
we will send stuff our for Brandy's album
and, you know, just different people.
-
>> And what he is speaking on is the
placement game,
-
getting able to get placement on artists
that have budgets already,
-
like Brandy and R.
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Kelly's and the everyone that we are
listening to now,
-
you know, that are signed.
-
We have that, that opportunity to write
for them just like Todashi and LeCray.
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They call, they get in contact with us,
you know.
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And, you know see what we have and if
we're blessed enough to make the album,
-
you know, you know we're meant to
>> So
-
let me ask you this two questions but I
wanna say this.
-
How has that, your success affected you
and
-
you know if you can give me the short side
of that.
-
How has your success affected you, because
some people,
-
when they get success, they lose it, did
you ever go through that phase?
-
>> No, being able to have my dad and doing
this at a young age, where I am
-
used to it, so it was never something that
I threw around and then being able to,
-
character and energy gets you through a
lot of doors as well, you know?
-
>> Okay.
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You know, not being stuck up,
-
not being uppity, not, just giving love,
showing love.
-
>> Okay, now I got a question.
-
So, we have some people out there that's
in the audience,
-
that are here in Oklahoma, and they're
gonna watch this show, and
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they're gonna see where you all have
worked very hard to get to.
-
And they're gonna want to do that.
-
So what advice.
-
Would each one of you all give them that
are looking at this show on how they can
-
fulfill their dreams and be successful
whether it be music, or going to school to
-
be a doctor, what is the advice you would
give and we'll start with you Elton.
-
>> Well, the first advice I would give is
like my dad, my dad said,
-
how do you catch a buffalo?
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Well, you have to go where they are.
-
And if music is what you wanna do,
-
you have to be in the areas where they are
looking for that next star, you know?
-
Just like we did music since we were
young, but
-
what we were living in Tulsa, Oklahoma, we
wasn't in L.A. or New York or
-
Atlanta to be discovered, so you know, you
have got to.
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You gotta go where they, they don't.
-
>> And what about you?
-
>> What would you say?
-
>> I'll say you know you have to invest in
yourself.
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You know what I mean cant' be afraid to,
to get out there and then When it comes
-
to, you know we, we, we lot of times we'll
spend money on things that doesn't matter.
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Chips.
You know, but
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if you wanna make music you have to.
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Need the material, you need something to
present.
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Pay for that studio, you know, pay for
-
pictures, take you know, health is a, is a
big thing.
-
I mean you have to take care of yourself
and just have faith in God.
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And, and get out there.
-
>> Wow, so fellas I thank you all so much
for coming.
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To the show, it's been a pleasure.
-
I'm gonna have to get you all back because
I know we just barely scratch the surface.
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We didn't get a chance to really delve
into your fashion.
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As people can see on the camera, the
brother's looking real smooth I like that.
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I say you gone wear the fro, he's like I
got the fro, okay?
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>> [LAUGH]
>> So thank you all for coming.
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>> Thanks for having us.
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>> I hope you have enjoyed our show today.
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I would like to thank our guest Shaw for
joining us.
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Remember this.
Change is, is inevitable.
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But your attitude towards that change, it
is optional.
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Until next time, keep looking forward.
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>> It's a beautiful day out here.
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Sunny today with light breezes giving way
to clouds in the afternoon.
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We could see some light precipitation to
moderate precipitation [NOISE] Later on
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followed by powerful storm-like
conditions!
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70 per-hour winds are expected!
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According to [INAUDIBLE] everyone, stay
indoors!
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