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Red: Hello everybody, and welcome to another very special Detail Diatribe. I don’t know why I said very special,
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this is pretty much on brand for the other Detail Diatribes we’ve done so far.
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It’s not a special holiday event or whatever. But I’m excited about this.
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Blue: Medium-special at best, but still very exciting!
R: Moderately special, you know,
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in the grand calculus of the multiverse.
B: Somewhere, Red and Blue are sitting down
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to record a Detail Diatribe that is the most special Detail Diatribe ever. But we’re not in that multiverse.
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R: No, we’re in this timeline instead. In case you didn’t pick up what we’re putting down,
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the subject of today’s Detail Diatribe is something that I have been mulling over for a while now, and I like to call it
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“the multiverse problem”. And to explain what exactly the multiverse problem is, I’ve prepared a handy-dandy,
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super efficient 40 slide slideshow-
B: Yes, Yes!
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R: -to discuss what exactly is going on. So, to start we must define the parameters
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that we’re going to be operating on. What is a multiverse? Now obviously, in this specific context
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we are discussing fictional multiverses, not Real Multiverse Theory, none of that stuff.
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Not particularly interesting to me. But in fiction the concept of a multiverse is essentially a setting
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that contains multiple universes or timelines, and the setting that the protagonists - the main characters -
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are from is typically just one universe out of many. A story will often introduce the concept
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of a multiverse in the context of a plotline that threatens the integrity of this home universe,
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like a bad future timeline or a threat that’s moving across dimensions or an evil alternate version
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of themselves intruding, stuff like that. It’s a very, very broad concept that covers a lot of ground.
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A lot of that ground is just fine, some of that ground is very, very bad. So let’s talk about it!
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B: This is exciting, because I have passing familiarity with some multiverse stories in kids’ media,
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like evil Danny Phantom and stuff like that.
R: Oh yeah, yeah. That’s on my list.
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B: Aside from a couple, you know, instances of Marvel coming into the phase four-game
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with multiversal nonsense, I am largely an outsider on this topic and I have some thoughts, but only some,
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and I don't know how strong they are. So we'll see how that develops as we go through this slideshow.
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R: Yeah, I'm excited for your input because there are a few examples in here that I know you've got thoughts on.
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But to start off, a little bit more categorization. There are, broadly speaking, two different kinds of multiverses.
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There are many worlds-multiverses and there are branching timeline-multiverses. Many worlds-multiverses,
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that's how you cover things like magical other world-stories, Narnia, Oz, you know, stuff like that.
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The characters travel from their world to another world. You know, it's essentially just a multiversal flavor on, like,
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the old sword and planet fantasy where people would be- or like Star Trek, where you've got a bunch
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of different inhabited planets and they're all very different but the people from them can come and hang out.
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B: Yeah. I believe Shakespeare's word for that was isekai.
R: Yes, the Bard himself, as we all know.
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So that type of multiverse, that doesn't tend to be where the problems lie. The branching timeline-multiverse
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is a different format for these stories, where instead there is this sort of concept that these are alternate versions
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of our universe, so there might be alternate versions of familiar characters. It's like, if you go from Earth to Oz,
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you're not gonna find an Oz-version of yourself. But, like, my example on this slide is Into the Spider-Verse,
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where all of those universes are extremely different, but they are on some level all different versions
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of the same universe. There are often going to be stories that have this sort of vague ambiguity between like,
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is this a branching timeline, alternate, “somebody made a different choice and now you live in Toon Town”,
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or are these worlds with different fundamental physical laws, but also there are different versions
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of the same guy across all these universes for some reason?
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B: Just imagining, like, Edison didn't get the patent for the motion picture and then therefore 150 years later
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we live in Toon Town.
R: Yeah, yeah. Obviously that's the only logical explanation
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for how Spider-Pig happened.
B: Yeah.
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R: So these universes will either strongly or superficially resemble each other. You know,
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this is where you start getting things like the time plot where it's like, “Ohh, I'm you from an alternate universe
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or from an alternate future or whatever”. Those ones tend to be a little bit more fast and loose.
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And the branching timeline-multiverse is where the problems begin. Now, multiverses disrupt the story
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that they're introduced into to varying degrees, because of course, the basic premise of a multiverse of
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“Hey, there's multiple universes, yours is just one of them” is usually accompanied by the concept
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“And your universe is under threat”, and that is the disruption. So essentially the introduction
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of the multiverse can either disrupt the story a little bit, or it can disrupt the story a whole bunch.