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Surviving Terminal Cancer

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    ‘It is not necessary, in order to make great
    progress in the cure of cancer, for us to
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    have the full solution of all the problems
    of basic research... the history of medicine
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    is replete with examples of cures obtained
    years, decades, and even centuries before
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    the mechanism of action was understood for
    these cures’ - Sidney Farber, United States
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    Congress, 1971
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    In 1971, when President Nixon declared war
    on cancer, 1 in 30 of us would develop cancer
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    in our lifetime. Today that figure is 1 in
    3.
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    Longer lifetimes account for a large part
    of this change, but dramatic changes in our
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    food chain and lifestyles contribute to this
    epidemic, with the world health organisation
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    forecasting a 75% increase in cancer cases
    by 2030. Conversely, the cold fact is that
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    despite trillions being spent on research,
    we have not cured a single cancer since the
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    1970s. If this is a war on cancer, then we
    are staring defeat in the face. We are little
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    closer to overcoming metastasis or malignancy,
    the holy grails of oncology, than we were
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    50 years ago. Is it possible that a tiny colony
    of malignant brain cancer survivors, the most
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    deadly of all cancers, hold the key to a dramatic
    improvement in all cancer therapies tomorrow?
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    Could the next great stride forward in the
    field of oncology be simply a change in strategy
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    as opposed to a new drug or technology? And
    what happens if that change in approach directly
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    contravenes established medical practice,
    and the entire clinical trial structure we
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    have built for testing cancer treatments?
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    I think that many of these brain tumours and
    other kinds of cancers are treatable. I just
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    think that a mountain of evidence is being
    over looked.
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    If you face this disease and say from the
    get go that it is incurable, you will always
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    be right, all your patients will die, and
    you have no business treating those patients
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    in the first place.
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    They’re trying to protect people. They inadvertently
    get into a situation where they kill people.
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    I would not be alive today if I had listened
    to the only to the advice of my oncologist.
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    Because as one point he told me that, ‘Well,
    you should try to consider just staying home
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    now and playing with your little daughter
    while you can and not pursue any aggressive
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    treatments’ … but I decided otherwise.
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    Surviving Terminal Cancer
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    The Everest of oncology
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    The
    brain poses unique challenges for clinicians:
    due to its control of every single process
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    in our bodies, it is very difficult to remove
    meaningful parts of tissue without removing
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    meaningful functionality from the human being.
    This limits the reach of surgery, radiotherapy
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    and multiple biopsies, some of the most efficacious
    tools at the oncologists’ disposal today.
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    Furthermore, the brain sits flush within a
    fixed volume cavity - the skull - and so the
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    swelling that is the by-product of carcinogenosis
    is frequently the primary cause of death in
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    brain tumour patients as inter-cranial pressure
    builds relentlessly. Finally, clinicians treating
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    the brain face a unique impediment in something
    called the blood brain barrier: a natural
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    and virtually impenetrable biological coat
    of armour which protects brain cells from
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    infections circulating in the body. If we
    didn’t have such protection then a simple
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    cold could easily end our life. However, when
    placed in the context of cancer, this protective
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    coat of armour makes it difficult to get chemotherapy
    into the brain. These three aspects of neurology
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    make clinical practice in the field of neuro-oncology
    the most severely challenging of any in oncology
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    today. Compared to other cancers, brain cancer
    has a very low profile, and yet it claims
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    more young lives than any other cancer. Nobody
    survives it’s most aggressive and lethal
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    form, glioblastoma multiforme, referred to
    in medical circles as ‘the terminator’.
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    Part of this is because of the difficulty
    we just described in treating the brain. But
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    brain cancer itself is differentiated from
    more common cancers by it’s cellular heterogeneity:
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    this means it’s highly differentiated cell
    populations are inherently complex and varied,
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    and so simple targeted treatments affecting
    only some areas can not impact it’s overall
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    ability to mutate and proliferate. A complex
    problem calls for a complex solution, and
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    biological heterogeneity demands therapeutic
    heterogeneity: or more simply brain cancer
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    is telling us that each patient is has a different
    disease, and that they need a different cure.
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    This genetic instability is the hallmark of
    all cancers. In this sense, cancer is the
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    most terrestrial of diseases, starting as
    a simple malfunction of a living organism,
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    it demonstrates the same remarkable capacity
    for adaptation and change, that has defined
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    of all the great survivors of evolution. It
    is this ability to modify it’s DNA structure
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    from generation to generation that results
    in the phenomenon referred to as drug resistance
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    - the principal barrier to treating cancer.
    All of these facts, the limitations of traditional
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    intervention methods when dealing with the
    brain, cancer’s most sinister characteristics,
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    and then additional problems specific to brain
    cancer, are acknowledged and agreed upon by
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    every hospital and every expert in the world.
    The tragedy for brain cancer patients today
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    is that the care they will receive does not
    come close to reflecting the scientific knowledge
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    now at our disposal. This is where the problems
    facing brain cancer, if they could be solved
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    today, could revolutionise the treatment of
    all cancers tomorrow.
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    ‘A round trip to Hades’
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    In southern California an academic and scientist
    has dedicated his life to pursuing better
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    outcomes for brain tumour patients since being
    diagnosed himself in 1995 with the most aggressive
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    type of brain cancer, glioblastoma multiforme.
    Given only a few months life expectancy, Professor
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    Emeritus Ben Williams was an extraordinary
    patient, and now nearly two decades later,
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    he is an extraordinary survivor for patients,
    his book Surviving Terminal Cancer is a source
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    of frank assessment and logical analysis of
    all available treatment options, often lacking
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    from their own medical team. Every year, Ben
    updates this invaluable source of information
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    making it freely available to any patient
    surfing the internet via a national brain
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    tumour charity. His remarkable journey has
    taken him from moribund patient, to highly
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    respected survivor and patient advocate.
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    When I was diagnosed with brain cancer I knew
    almost nothing about the disease other than
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    that it is one of the worst medical diagnosis
    you can get. My first reaction when I heard
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    of that was to basically have a shiver down
    my spine because I knew I probably didn’t
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    have much chance of surviving. I hadn’t
    even heard of a glioblastoma at that point.
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    I was told that it was the worst kind of tumour
    you could have and that nobody survived it.
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    For the first couple of weeks after that I
    was just in shock. I mean there was no other
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    way to describe it.
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    Ben was told he could expect to live for 12-18
    months if he was lucky, and that the chemotherapy
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    treatment available to him would not save
    his life.
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    For the first several months, most of my thinking
    was, you know well, I’m going to die. How
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    am I going to deal with it? And I thought
    a lot about death. The treatment was just
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    sort of something I was just following along
    because I didn’t know any better at that
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    point. There were no options that were presented
    to me. What you are faced with is well, I
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    don’t really have a choice. This is going
    to kill me and I better try and figure out
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    how to make that as easy a process as possible.
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    Like all patients Ben was prescribed the standard
    of care: immediate surgery, followed by intensive
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    radiation and chemotherapy.
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    When you receive a diagnosis that every one
    tells you is terminal - that no one survives
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    it - it’s impossible not to become depressed
    by that information. I mean I look at pictures
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    from that period of time and I mean, clearly
    I was depressed and it wasn’t until I began
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    doing research that said there was a possibility,
    that there are things you can do that would
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    be helpful and I began to think - well this
    is worth at least making the fight. And the
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    more information I began to find, the less
    depressed I became, and the more optimistic
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    that things were not nearly as terrible as
    everyone was telling me.
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    However, before the era of the internet, Ben’s
    task of educating himself quickly was considerable.
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    The first couple of months I basically did
    nothing else but reading. It was a crash course.
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    I knew I didn’t really have much time to
    do a comprehensive education so I was really
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    trying to find a shorthand account of what
    I was dealing with. Unfortunately most of
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    the articles were every bit as discouraging
    as what I had been told initially as they
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    almost all began with an introduction that
    said glioblastoma is universally fatal. But,
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    the more research I did, the more leads that
    I came across about things that had been ignored
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    and things that - at some early stage data
    from clinical trials that really hadn’t
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    gotten much attention but still looked quite
    promising and - it seemed like it was totally
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    sensible to try and add those things into
    whatever else I was being prescribed to do.
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    So I found, you know, several different drugs
    that had good evidence from medical literature
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    of benefitting people with cancer - some of
    them specifically with brain cancer but others
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    with cancer in general. I mean things like
    (immune stimulants) and things that were
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    used widely else where so that I found one
    mushroom extract that was used in Japan routinely
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    in almost all cancer treatment protocols and
    yet it is never mentioned in the United States.
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    It has zero toxicity. Why would you not use
    it? I mean millions of people in Japan use
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    it. That’s a big mystery to me. How you
    can just disregard something that has credible
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    evidence.
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    But Ben's line of thinking was met with surprising
    opposition.
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    My neuro-oncologist raised the question - well
    you don’t want to add these things because,
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    you know, they have a lot of toxicity and
    I thought, well not from what I know about
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    them compared to what you’re about to give
    me. And it turned out that while I had some
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    side effects of some of the things they were
    really nothing of major consequence so I was
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    right about the idea that they were worth
    trying.
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    With a PHD from Harvard and a chair as Professor
    of experimental psychology at the University
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    of California, Ben had the courage of his
    convictions, a critical tool the vast majority
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    of patients lack.
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    I realised fairly early that medical practice
    is standardised for everyone and pays almost
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    no regard for the individual variability of
    patients. When I first asked my oncologist
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    - my neuro-oncologist - if I could add the
    first agent that I used - it was high dosage
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    Tamoxifen - to what he was offering in terms
    of a chemotherapy program. He just out right
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    refused. He was unwilling to bend and we had
    a major altercation over the phone and it
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    ended up with him basically saying that we
    couldn’t work together and so whether he
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    fired me or I fired him, I was without a neuro-oncologist
    at that time. But fortunately my neurosurgeon
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    intervened and convinced my neuro-oncologist
    that maybe they should let me do a little
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    bit more in terms of participating in my own
    treatment program than they would ordinarily
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    do. Eventually we got along quite well but
    I never did really tell him everything I was
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    doing after that. Going against the advice
    of my doctors was really initially an act
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    of desperation. I mean, I wasn’t concerned
    about offending them, I was concerned about
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    staying alive and so I was going to use anything
    I could get my hands on, and if that made
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    them angry, well that was too bad. At one
    point I was going down to Mexico, to Tijuana,
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    to obtain a drug normally used for acne which
    also had been shown to have some treatment
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    benefits for glioblastomas. I had to go to
    Mexico because the drug required a prescription
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    and I knew it was going to be a great difficulty
    obtaining it here so I was taking that all
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    along without the knowledge of my neuro-oncologist.
    The irony was that when I eventually told
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    my neuro-oncologist what I had done, he said
    to me ‘that was a very nice study that MD
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    Anderson did’ – he knew about it all along,
    but it was not a part of the standard treatment
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    and so he’d never even mentioned the possibility.
    In most cancer treatment protocols there is
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    a standard treatment that the oncology community
    has agreed upon and they don’t deviate from
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    it except in the context of clinical trials.
    That realisation, the beginning of my deep
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    anger about how the medical system was working
    - It made absolutely no sense to me not to
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    use everything that might have a benefit as
    long as the toxicities were acceptable. Why
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    wouldn’t anyone want to add them? It seemed
    to me totally irrational that people didn’t
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    use everything that was available.
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    With this strategy Ben constructed a cocktail
    of drugs around his chemotherapy. When his
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    MRI scans began to show his tumour gradually
    reducing in size, and eventually disappearing
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    altogether 6 months later, it was clear that
    something very unusual was taking place.
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    After my first round of chemotherapy I did
    get a small amount of shrinkage in my tumour.
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    That was a tremendous weight that was lifted
    off of me. I mean I didn’t feel of the kind
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    of depression that I had felt up until that
    time. I mean, I was ready for the battle at
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    that point because it didn’t seem hopeless.
    So I started adding even more things at that
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    point. And then after the second round of
    chemotherapy I had a lot of progression in
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    the tumour, and then after the third round
    of chemotherapy, a lot more. Then I had a
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    clean MRI after the fourth round. And I’ve
    got clean MRIs ever since. People are always
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    raising the question - so this might have
    worked for you, but maybe you were just a
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    rare case that responded to chemotherapy’?
    Did any of these other things that you added
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    make a critical difference? The hallmark of
    my case was that the chemotherapy did work
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    for me. I mean, I had something was different
    about how I was getting the chemotherapy and
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    the things that went with it, and I had deliberately
    focused on that. I mean, I though seriously
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    about where the resistance to chemotherapy
    came from and how one might overcome it.
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    Now retired, Ben spends a great deal of his
    time responding to the desperate enquiries
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    of patients who have read his book, offering
    impartial advice whilst never advocating specific
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    treatments.
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    We’ll never know for sure why I’m still
    alive. Certainly I did things that were unusual,
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    but, you know, I might have done things that
    were unusual in terms of the characteristics
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    of my tumour. I don’t think that’s an
    argument I take seriously now because I have
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    advised a lot of people over the years to
    adopt a similar approach. They didn’t do
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    exactly what I did, but they added as many
    things as they could to the standard treatment
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    - and many of them have had very good success.
    The irony is that almost all oncologists agree
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    that multiple agent approaches are going to
    be necessary to actually cure anything. And
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    so, no one really is disputing that. The question
    is what goes into those cocktails and what
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    kind of criterion of evidence that you have
    to have for putting those cocktails together.
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    To this day Ben still self-administers a maintenance
    therapy: a daily cocktail of vitamins and
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    supplements designed to try and create as
    hostile an environment as possible for cancer
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    to face in his body.
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    Logic Dictates
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    On the east coast of America, an advocate
    of combination therapies is Dr Raymond Chang.
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    Pioneering the integration of oriental and
    western medicine, his book Beyond the Magic
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    Bullet poses an uncomfortable question for
    the oncology community.
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    Oncology thinking somewhat followed infectious
    disease treatment thinking because the first
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    original breakthrough in achieving a cure
    for any disease came in the infectious disease
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    field whereas possible with the discovery
    of penicillin and so fourth. Single antibiotics,
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    single chemical (*) were able to eradicate
    – cure, literally - serious medical conditions
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    like tuberculosis, like syphilis. That was
    then applied to cancer with the same logic
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    behind it… well if we find the right chemical,
    maybe we can eradicate cancer just like we
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    can eradicate tuberculosis… and then that
    mode of thinking dominated (*) therapy for
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    over a century at least. We think that most
    diseases, if you simply find the right key,
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    you should be opening the door, and the reason
    why the door remains locked - the cure remains
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    locked - is because we don’t have the right
    key. So we should keep looking for new keys
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    or try to improve the key that we have and
    we will eventually open the door. What if
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    this door has multiple locks? When you keep
    looking for one key, it’s not going to open
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    the door no matter how hard you look. It will
    never, it will fail, the whole strategy of
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    research will fail! Then maybe the way of
    thinking is wrong. It’s not that we need
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    better drugs, but we need to know better how
    to deploy what we have already. If we have
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    ‘cure’ or ‘control’ already in our
    hands except that we’re not using things
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    properly.
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    As proved to be the case with childhood Leukaemia
    and aids, it was the combination of existing
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    treatments that delivered the breakthrough.
    Today infectious disease treatments follow
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    this logic.
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    Hepatitis C, hepatitis B - chronic viral infection
    - HIV obviously. They are all attacked with
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    multi(*), multi agent, multi target approaches
    – and with success. Cancer treatments are
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    kind of behind… again. So hopefully it will
    follow the lead of the infectious disease
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    practitioners.
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    The idea of a cocktail approach to cancer
    treatment has gained adherence amongst the
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    oncology community.
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    I think that if we are going to try to treat
    this disease we need to be using combination
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    therapy from the get go. Single agent therapy
    is not likely to be very effective with a
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    disease with so many molecular (*) underlying
    its ability to be invasive and resistant to
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    therapy.
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    What you want to design for a problem like
    cancer is not a drug or an intervention. You
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    want to design a solution - because that’s
    what patients want. So it’s a lot like your
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    computer: there’s amazing components in
    there like your microprocessor or your hard
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    drive, but individually they aren’t worth
    anything to you until they are put together
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    into an interoperable system that becomes
    your laptop that’ll do word processing or
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    send emails… Now that’s of value to you.
    Today in drug development and in clinical
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    research we need to be thinking of those kinds
    of integrated, interoperable solutions.
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    With glioblastoma we’re really climbing
    a mountain. Every therapy that we see a modest
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    success for gets us a little bit further up
    the mountain then we set up a new base camp,
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    and then we come up with a another therapy
    that gets us further up the mountain, set
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    up a new base camp. The concept of synergy
    is really important here because what if we
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    could just get further, faster?
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    An example of why it is that combining different
    treatments together is in fact the development
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    of what is now the standard of care: It used
    to be that you used to receive radiation first
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    and then wait a month or so, and then start
    on your chemotherapy. The new protocol is
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    that you have the radiation and the chemotherapy
    together. It has produced a better outcome.
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    Clearly the change of putting them together
    simultaneously as opposed to sequentially
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    was a step in the right direction.
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    Current management of brain cancer as well
    as many other cancer conditions involves a
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    multi disciplinary approach where surgery
    is deployed, radiation is deployed, chemotherapy
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    is deployed, and targeted therapies are deployed.
    So one can argue that it is already, in a
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    way, it’s already mixed or cocktails and
    not just one single therapy… But, much more
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    can be done. Many other drugs can be used
    without much toxicity without much even cost.
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    Simple, simple drugs.
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    Although there is general consensus of the
    advantages of the cocktail approach, there
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    is disagreement about how much information
    is needed to start combining untested treatments
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    together. How far and how fast this can be
    taken for individual patients is the fundamental
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    issue.
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    The big problem with cancer treatment is that
    the tumour develops resistance. I mean, you
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    know, so it’s usually that the treatment
    is only partially effective in the beginning
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    - at best - and what you then get in an evolution
    of resistant strains of the tumour, and so
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    the more you treat it, the more resistant
    it gets just through the process of evolution.
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    The biggest risk in all of this is you’re
    going to be dead very quickly from your tumour
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    unless you do something other than what is
    being offered from the conventional medical
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    treatment.
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    We always balance the potential gain with
    the potential toxicity of an agent and making
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    a decision whether to include it and if so,
    how to include it and when to include it…
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    but we’re not treat colds, we’re treating
    glioblastoma… and what risks you might take
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    with a cold are going to be far less than
    the risks you are willing to take with someone
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    with a glioblastoma when you know the natural
    outcome is so dire.
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    It is clear that cocktail therapy represents
    an excursion into the unknown, with corresponding
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    uncertainties about the risks involved.
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    Some of these cocktails involving 10 or more
    substances can have life threatening complications
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    and for the safety of the patient it would
    be much better if the physician knew about
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    it and could appropriately follow. There can
    be some aggressive attitude of some physician
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    starts experimental treatments especially
    with free purpose, non approved drug cocktails.
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    And I can very well understand that patients
    may try to avoid this conflict with a treating
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    physician and I think that the solution is
    on the side… lies on the side of the physician.
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    Resistance
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    Treating malignant brain tumour patients is
    not easy for physicians. Most do not become
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    doctors to watch all their patients die. At
    the sharp end of this scale lies paediatric
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    neuro-oncology. In Belgium, one man’s professional
    crusade against brain cancer has led to his
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    university hospital becoming the most advanced
    centre in Europe for immunotherapy in brain
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    cancer. When not fund-raising out of hours
    to support his research programmes, Professor
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    Stefaan Van Gool is on the very front lines
    of neuro-oncology, taking the fight patient
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    by patient.
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    Personally I think the prognosis of the patient
    is the worst when the doctor does not treat.
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    There is nothing. If there is one thing frustrating
    that is that you want to fight for your patient
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    but that you face borders that are aimed to
    be protecting patients, but are sometimes
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    also not protecting patients because they
    block progression. Evidence based medicine:
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    you do an intervention, compare to control
    - but if this intervention consists of five
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    new factors… that will be a hard one to
    do, but maybe these 5 (*) factors are needed
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    to make the progression. That’s the difficulty
    more and more. You have to fight against all
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    the barriers with (*) committees, with regulatory
    authorities, which makes thinking out of the
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    box more and more difficult. If we come too
    much into fixed system: phase one, phase two,
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    phase three, phase four, and that’s it.
    That will reduce progression - certainly if
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    you want to elaborate multi model, more holistic
    approaches. That’s very difficult and unfortunately,
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    at the moment, it becomes more and more difficult.
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    The reality facing the vast majority of patients,
    is that their doctor will not engage with
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    any experimental therapy outside of a clinical
    trial, even in the context of a terminal diagnosis.
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    We wanted to try and understand the reasons
    behind this seemingly unnecessary resistance.
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    Realistically there are other practices beyond
    medicine. It has to do with capitalism, it
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    has to do with health care structures, systems
    and so fourth. Mono therapy is easier to carry
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    out. If something goes wrong, it is clear
    what’s wrong because you’re giving one
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    treatment at a time so if the patient has
    a server side effect it’s that treatment
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    - it’s that drug. Regulatory wise, it’s
    very difficult to get studies going involving
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    multiple agents, because let’s say if you’ve
    got five agents - instead of testing one thing
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    at a time then you have to test A against
    B plus C plus D plus E or, A plus B against
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    C plus D plus E. There are then, to the power
    of five, so many different variations possible.
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    That means you have to do so many studies.
    Practically it’s almost impossible to study
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    these things if it becomes complex. So a simple
    monotherapy approach is easier, cleaner for
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    management purposes - but it may not be as
    effective. It is unconscious because doctors
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    don’t necessarily think about it, but they
    implement it in this fashion. This is the
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    way how studies are done. You don’t put
    patients on three new X, Y, Z unknown new
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    treatments at the same time because the issue
    always comes up that well, if it works, what
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    did it? Then we don’t know. That is not
    acceptable to science. You have to be careful
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    that the doctors need to be scientific…
    but when you’re treating the patient, is
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    it for science or is it for the patient? Sometimes
    we forget.
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    Other obvious candidates for cocktails are
    natural compounds. These naturally occurring
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    substances cannot be protected by patent and
    so no one company can gain a monopoly over
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    their supply. Totally non-toxic, and with
    years of data to prove its efficacy in cancer
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    care, curcumin should be an obvious adjuvant
    for any cancer protocol, and yet it is rarely
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    used in western medicine. We travelled to
    the world’s largest specialist cancer hospital,
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    MD Anderson in Houston, where the series of
    laboratories dedicated to natural compounds
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    are testament to the holistic vision behind
    the Texan project.
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    As of today there have been over 150 clinical
    trials that have been completed. And the answer
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    is yes it works and it down modulates bio-markers.
    You know, there are only 20-25 driver genes,
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    and that I have taken all those driver genes
    and asked ‘are they down modulated by curcumin?’
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    Because that is what the drug industry is
    targeting…and the answer is yes: curcumin
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    alone, has over ninety different targets,
    ninety different targets, it is not just a
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    mono-targeted. So this is what the drug industry
    calls a ‘dirty drug’. Any drug that hits
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    more than one target is a dirty drug for them,
    they don’t like it. There are only two rules
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    of the game that I have learnt from my days
    in Genentech (and there is no third that I
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    know of) .. Safety: number one, whatever you’re
    giving to the patients should be absolutely
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    safe, it shouldn’t hurt them in any way.
    Second is the efficacy. There is no third
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    rule, and curcumin meets both of them.
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    But as any cancer patient will testify, there
    is huge opposition from the medical establishment,
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    towards adding natural compounds to traditional
    cancer treatments. The reason most patients
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    are given, is that it ‘may interfere with
    your treatment’ although only in rare cases
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    is there any evidence to support this claim.
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    In medicine today, there is a buzz word and
    that is called ‘targeted therapies’. Targeted
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    therapy means you pick a single gene, a single
    protein, and you try to find an inhibiter.
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    That is what they call a ‘magic bullet’.
    They have come up with a lot of magic bullets.
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    Only thing is, these are not bullets and these
    are not magic, so there is a lot of frustration,
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    asking where did we go wrong? Where they did
    go wrong was thinking that cancer is a single
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    gene or single protein - a single target disease.
    By now, we are living in the era of ‘omics’:
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    genomics, proteomics, metabolomics, and all
    of that is out there to tell you that cancer
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    is a multi-genic disease. No matter which
    direction I look at, people’s mind is set,
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    and their mind is set on targeted therapies.
    They want a targeted therapy, if it is not
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    targeted they are not interested, period.
    It doesn’t matter whether it does anything
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    good for the cancer or not, they are not interested…
    and that’s where I face the biggest resistance.
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    I have people tell me point blank in my face,
    right here in MD Anderson. They say, ‘well
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    Dr Aggarwal, anything you do with respect
    to natural products I don’t believe even
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    one bit of it. They don’t even want to read…
    and we publish in the same journals. We are
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    most highly cited. People don’t want to
    read. There’s this, you know, in born bias.
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    My problem with the ethics of oncologists
    is that they want to pre-empt the decision
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    and they don’t their patients have any leeway
    in making a decision that sort of kind of
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    moves them in the direction of alternative
    medicine. It’s a real concern on their part.
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    I mean, professional reputations can quickly
    be ruined if you’re viewed as one of those
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    kooky guys who goes around trying to throw
    out anything under the sun into your treatment
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    protocol.
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    History is littered with scientific breakthroughs
    that were castigated for their implications
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    for the prevailing status quo. When Copernicus
    introduced his heliocentric theory to the
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    world, the shock to the belief system reverberated
    for centuries afterwards: Gallileo Gallilei
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    was persecuted for his acknowledgement of
    Copernicus’ theory and his pursuit of a
  • 33:08 - 33:14
    new rational science in its wake. Even Gallileo’s
    presentation of his new invention, the telescope
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    and it’s irrefutable new evidence, could
    not dampen the fervour of his condemnation.
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    In the nineteenth century, Ignaz Semmelweis,
    a relatively unknown doctor, a Hungarian practising
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    in the venerated hospitals of Vienna at its
    empirical peek, noticed an alarming correlation
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    between the new practice of pathology, and
    the advent of a series of deaths of both mothers
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    and babies in the maternity wards of those
    same hospitals. His suggestion that perhaps
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    his fellow surgeons should consider using
    chlorine to wash hands before operating on
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    patients, was met with vicious resistance.
    Unable to substantiate his theory scientifically,
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    Semmelweis was ostracised professionally by
    his peers for daring to question the status
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    quo. He died 15 years later in a mental institution,
    a broken man, yet a century and a half later
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    he is venerated as a national hero in Hungary,
    where statues and coins carry his legacy as
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    the father of sterile medicine. Today, the
    Semmelweis reflex is a term used to describe
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    an illogical and exaggerated response to a
    challenge to the prevailing dogma. Unfortunately
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    - the Semmelweis reflex is alive and well
    in today’s medical establishment: Barry
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    Marshall, a little known doctor from Western
    Australia, had identified a bacteria in the
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    early 1980s that indicated stomach ulcers
    were caused by bacteria. This was heresy to
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    the established thinking in the field of endoscopy,
    which was convinced that stomach ulcers were
  • 34:44 - 34:50
    caused by stress. As a result Marshall’s
    thesis was not published in any medical journals
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    and sat on the shelves gathering dust while
    hundreds of thousands of patients across the
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    world had their stomachs removed, unnecessarily
    so according to his theory. With the bacteria
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    in question only able to develop in primates,
    but with testing on primates prohibited, the
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    successful animal experiments that the medical
    establishment deemed pre-requisite for Marshall
  • 35:11 - 35:17
    to progress to human trials, could thus never
    be completed. So locked out of both animal
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    and human experimentation, but convinced of
    his theory, Marshall chose to experiment on
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    the one human he did have legal access to:
    himself. In front of an audience of stunned
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    peers, he downed a petri dish full of bacteria
    grafted from a patients’ stomach, and claimed
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    to have infected himself with a stomach ulcer.
    The proof duly came, as did his cure without
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    the need to remove his stomach, swiftly followed
    by an avalanche of awards and praise from
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    the establishment, culminating with the Nobel
    Prize in 2005. Beyond the more obscure issue
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    of medical hegemony, lie more obvious reasons
    for why combination therapies do not reach
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    patients.
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    If you have: a drug A from company A, and
    a drug B from company B, and a drug C from
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    company C, it is extremely difficult to get
    all three of those drug companies together
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    to agree to use their drugs to treat a particular
    disease process. It’s much easier if the
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    drugs all come from one company… and that
    is a fundamental challenge that not just neurosurgical
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    patients with glioblastoma face, but all cancer
    patients face. And from the company stand
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    point one could make a good argument that
    it’s reasonable and understandable that
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    this is the case because they invest hundreds
    of millions, sometimes billions of dollars
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    to develop that drug, and as that drug comes
    to market it goes to the FDA, the application
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    of that drug to other disease processes in
    combination with other drugs could cause a
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    lot of problems for them. So it’s a very
    difficult thing to address.
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    On top of the reluctance of western medicine
    to consider natural products as they cannot
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    be patented, for the very same reason, drugs
    whose patent has expired are similarly discarded
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    as they cannot guarantee a return on the investment
    required to run a clinical trial. This results
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    in a large number of drugs with strong laboratory
    evidence for anticancer properties never getting
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    anywhere near patients. In some cases, even
    when human trials have been run it is still
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    not enough to bring the drug into the mainstream
    treatment.
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    A very nice example is the use of the old
    malaria drug which is dirt cheap, Chloroquine,
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    for brain cancer where nice trials have been
    carried out showing improvements up to 50%
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    survival time when it’s added to standard
    chemotherapy. It has almost no side effects.
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    It’s one pill a day. It does not mean the
    patient has to suffer going to the hospital,
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    get a drip, any of this. It’s dirt cheap.
    Why not? Well, FDA has not approved its use
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    for this condition - for one. The information
    is not widely disseminated. There’s no big
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    drug company behind the manufacture of chloroquine
    to market it for this use. Nobody makes much
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    money if suddenly every brain cancer patient
    starting taking chloroquine, it adds very
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    little to the bottom line of any particular
    business or company.
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    So it is more and more important for us to
    look at these drugs that have been left on
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    the shelf, that big pharma wants nothing to
    do with, but we don’t initially have the
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    time or the resources to provide the data
    managers, the IRB fees and start up fees that
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    it takes run a good clinical trial.
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    Aside from the influence of the medical world
    status quo, and the economic reasons hampering
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    development of combination therapies for cancer,
    there is a strong feeling amongst the patients
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    we interviewed as to why oncologists are unwilling
    to deviate from established best practices,
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    even in the context of terminal disease.
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    One of the problems from a patient’s perspective
    is that they want as many drugs as possible
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    to facilitate long tern survival, and that’s
    a very reasonable request from the stand point
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    of a patient. If you have cancer, you hear
    a certain drug might be effective in your
  • 39:30 - 39:34
    particular type of cancer, you want to access
    that drug. You hear that another type of drug
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    might be effective, you want to actually just
    go ahead and combine those drugs, and so fourth
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    and so on. From a patient’s perspective,
    you are entitled to pursue any type of therapy
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    you want to. From a provider’s perspective,
    from a neurosurgeon, a scientist, from a a
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    neurosurgical oncologist’s perspective,
    we have to be very, very careful about what
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    we recommend to patients in terms of going
    after therapies that are unproven.
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    Doctors are judged by so-called standards
    of practice in the community. So, if in California
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    this is the way we do things, here, in LA,
    this is the was we do things… and you do
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    it differently and the patient gets hurt,
    and you’re in court, they will summon your
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    peers and say well, how do you do things usually?
    And every body says ‘I don’t use Temodar,
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    I don’t do Temodar + chloroquine
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    This issue of liability is one of the silent
    enemies in the war on cancer. Drs and hospitals
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    who would willingly take more risks for their
    patients who have run out of options, are
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    discouraged from doing so by fear of malpractices
    suits. This fear of prosecution is not limited
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    to doctors, but runs deep through the entire
    system, dissuading individuals and teams from
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    doing anything outside of the box for their
    patients.
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    The specialists are at major cancer institutions
    that does not treat patients as individual
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    unlike what patients may think. They treat
    as a group. They can call it a team approach,
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    but they treat by committee, literally there
    is a committee of doctors who review cases
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    – it’s called a tumour board – and almost,
    you can imagine, 6,7 specialists at the centre
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    every week, sit down and go over new cases
    and decide ‘this is what we’re going to
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    do.’ Now, that also creates an issue because
    then everybody has to agree for one, then
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    of course what everybody agrees on in any
    bureaucratic structure has to be the lowest
  • 41:45 - 41:51
    common denominator. Okay? But that’s the
    safest way for the doctors and the hospital
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    because if there was a problem, and if the
    was a charge, they say well, ‘six specialists
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    had a committee meeting on the same week – and
    we all agreed… you want to sue six of us?
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    And we represent the hospital are you going
    to sue the whole hospital for this decision?
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    every one of our patients get exactly the
    same thing. What’s wrong with this? We are
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    following the guide lines from the American
    cancer society’. So, everything is therefore
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    protected, protected, protected… for liability
    reasons. So it’s fool proof. If you try
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    to be individualistic, stick your neck out,
    give chloroquine because there’s a paper
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    that says give chloroquine, and something
    goes wrong, you don’t have anything backing
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    you up in the court of law. It’s much safer
    to follow a protocol. A protocol is one thing
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    at a time until it’s proven otherwise. The
    proof may never come because there is no funding
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    to try to prove these things. Who gains from
    proving them? Who is going to fund the proving
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    of this? These are much larger issues that
    I think will hamper developments of true cocktails
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    unless there is radical changes in health
    care systems and social systems. It may not
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    come.…
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    Lightening doesn’t strike twice
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    Ben's Williams book is nothing more than a
    blueprint for anyone who wants to follow a
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    more pro-active approach to their own treatment.
    One such patient was Richard Gerber, a fellow
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    American academic living in Italy, who was
    diagnosed with the same lethal brain tumour
  • 43:45 - 43:51
    a decade after Ben. Given just months to live,
    Rich had nothing to lose.
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    During the chemotherapy and radiotherapy that
    I had – although it was very exhausting
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    – I started reading at night, articles and
    journals, and I realised that therapy was
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    not going to really make my life any longer
    so I started doing research into alternatives,
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    and little by little, on the internet, I came
    across this name ‘Ben Williams’ who had
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    written a book. I ordered the book. And it
    basically is teaching people to take their
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    matters into their own hands and to be their
    own doctors in part. So far, this cocktail
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    approach that he writes about in his book
    has proved efficacious for me. I wasn’t
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    just blindly following Ben. In fact, I wouldn’t
    have followed Ben at all if his arguments
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    weren’t logically convincing.
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    In common with Ben, Rich shared a scientific
    background, he is an expert at developing
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    solutions for complex problems.
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    I took what we call a ‘black box’ concept
    that is glioblastoma is a very, very complicated
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    phenomenon. Nobody knows: how it works, how
    it grows, how it gets started, how the therapy
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    works, and papers are published on very specific
    subjects and very specific genetic pathways,
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    but there is no integration of this information.
    So, my approach was based on finding as many
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    agents which could block assorted pathways
    which activate glioblastoma, and doing it
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    all at once so that the glioblastoma would
    have less of a chance to mutate and escape
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    via a path way because I would already be
    blocking that pathway.
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    Of course, assembling and consuming an unsupervised
    and untested cocktail of drugs and neutraceuticals
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    is daunting even for someone with an in depth
    appreciation of their disease. One of the
  • 46:03 - 46:09
    patients we interviewed equated it to playing
    Russian roulette whilst on death row.
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    My doctor was a very sympathetic oncologist,
    but she was very ‘by the book’. She didn’t
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    want me to do anything else. Coming up with
    my own notions I suggested to this doctor
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    that I would like to take melatonin. I tossed
    this out as sort of a test because at the
  • 46:32 - 46:36
    time I was actually taking 10 or 15 other
    pharmaceuticals but I thought I would start
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    small and she didn’t want to hear about
    it. She told me not to take melatonin, that
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    it would just confuse the matter. At that
    point I realised that I was on my own because
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    if I couldn’t confess to my doctor that
    I was taking melatonin, how could I confess
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    to her that I was taking chloroquine and (*) and
    other pharmaceuticals. I didn’t add all
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    the ingredients at once. I added them incrementally.
    I basically included any ingredient, be it
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    a supplement or a pharmaceutical that was
    active against cancer and didn’t interfere
  • 47:18 - 47:25
    with the other ingredients. The pharmaceuticals
    had to be dosed correctly, and the dosage
  • 47:25 - 47:32
    I used was that carried out in the research
    paper on cancer that I found. You have to
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    read very closely these articles to get the
    correct dosage – but it’s there.
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    At its peak his cocktail numbered over 25
    different components, and in order to access
  • 47:46 - 47:52
    them all, Rich broke every rule in the book:
    From feigning symptoms of other ailments in
  • 47:52 - 47:58
    order to access non-cancer drugs that he believed
    may also act against his disease, to forging
  • 47:58 - 47:59
    prescriptions.
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    There were moments during my cocktail therapy
    when I thought I was doing too much, and I
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    was getting out of my own comfort zone which
    is nothing like medicine, but, I realised
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    that the alternatives were very small: either
    I tried something much more radical than the
  • 48:27 - 48:34
    standard of care, or I would die. And when
    you’re faced with that kind of decision,
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    why not use more ingredients?
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    Long term survivors of malignant brain tumours
    are extremely rare. What makes Ben and Rich
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    even more unusual amongst this tiny data group,
    is that they have never had a recurrence - their
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    cancer has never come back.
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    A glioblastoma can’t really be cured. Never.
    I never think about cure and I don’t talk
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    to anybody about cure. I think that every
    year that you live without a recurrence is
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    great. I think Ben Williams now has lived
    eighteen years without a recurrence if I’m
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    not mistaken. I’ve lived six and a half
    years without a recurrence. At that point
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    you can say that we’re under control, but
    you can’t say that we’re cured because
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    there is always a possibility that it could
    come back.
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    Ethics in question
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    After the horrors of the human experimentation
    that characterised the holocaust, at the Nuremberg
  • 49:45 - 49:50
    trials the international community laid down
    the founding principals of a clinicians ethical
  • 49:50 - 49:56
    obligation, initially referred to as the Nuremberg
    code and later ratified in the Declaration
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    of Geneva as an extension of the Hippocratic
    Oath. Building upon these foundations, the
  • 50:01 - 50:07
    world of medicine unilaterally subscribed
    to the Declaration of Helsinki in 1964, and
  • 50:07 - 50:13
    its primary revision in 1975 that introduced
    the principal of ethical review by an independent
  • 50:13 - 50:19
    committee. In doing so, the global medical
    community enshrined the moral truth that ‘concern
  • 50:19 - 50:26
    for the interests of the subject must always
    prevail over the interests of science and
  • 50:27 - 50:30
    society’. Can we honestly say that today’s
    double-blind studies on terminal cancer patients
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    adhere to this principal?
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    Frankly, that I don’t know how a neuro-oncologist
    could go home and look themselves in the mirror
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    at night given what he knows and the outcome
    of his patients are. I just don’t think
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    it’s even ethical. I wouldn’t be able
    to live just presiding over patients, just
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    giving them radiation and chemotherapy and
    at the same time, knowing that they are all
  • 51:00 - 51:02
    going to die.
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    I think the general concern in the oncology
    community is that this is a terminal disease
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    and when diagnosed with a GBM you are going
    to die. I think that philosophy is kind of
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    counterproductive to doing anything meaningful,
    so I think our goal is to put patients on
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    clinical trials to press the field forward,
    but when you can’t do that, to do something
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    better than a standard of care which is palliative.
  • 51:25 - 51:32
    What we are fighting against is the negligence
    that physicians are not aiming to inform themselves,
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    that they are not forming an opinion themselves.
  • 51:37 - 51:42
    If you face this disease and say from the
    get go that this it is incurable - you will
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    always be right, all your patients will die
    and you have no business treating those patients
  • 51:46 - 51:48
    in the first place.
  • 51:48 - 51:55
    I think it is one of the toughest situations
    in everyday clinical work. This is a point
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    where it is really necessary to really explore
    the patient’s wishes and really find out
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    if the patient is willing to take an additional
    risk for a chance, for a possibility of having
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    a better (*). The problem is that a patient
    who is asked to take an additional risk for
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    a chance to survive will almost always say
    yes.
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    So the central issue is the question of protecting
    patients rights at both ends of the spectrum:
  • 52:35 - 52:39
    whilst uninformed vulnerable patients need
    protection from unreasonable offers of experimental
  • 52:39 - 52:44
    therapy at one end, equally should patients
    at the opposite end of the spectrum, who do
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    not wish to accept a palliative standard of
    care, be denied the right to fight for their
  • 52:49 - 52:54
    lives? When their doctors refuse to co-operate,
    these patients inevitably find themselves
  • 52:54 - 53:00
    outside of the medical system. We wondered
    how many other cancer patients have embarked
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    into unchartered territory of self-medication,
    without their story ever coming to light.
  • 53:07 - 53:12
    In California, we heard of another desperate
    struggle against terminal cancer. But for
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    Neil and Margo Hutchison, there was no happy
    ending. neuroblastoma, a rare cancer of the
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    nervous system, claimed the life of their
    eldest son Sam aged just 8 years old.
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    He was a very active little kid. Loved sports,
    loved anything with balls, loved trucks, he
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    ran like the wind, we was a funny, great fantastic
    kid. When he was four and a half we were at
  • 53:38 - 53:41
    a soccer game and he sat down and said ‘my
    legs hurt’, and he always used to jump out
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    of our van and he started to sit down to get
    out of our van so we that something was definitely
  • 53:46 - 53:51
    wrong. We decided to get some blood tests
    and an X-ray and he was diagnosed with neuroblastoma.
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    55:38 N: Sam began one of heaviest chemotherapy
    regimens used in medicine with accompanying
  • 53:57 - 54:01
    stem cell transplant that meant he lost his
    hearing and would be sterile for the rest
  • 54:01 - 54:07
    of his life. But with such a high grade of
    malignancy Neil and Margo were told Sam had
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    very little chance of surviving.
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    Well first off, I mean, you’re shocked,
    I mean, I think even parents of someone diagnosed
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    with paediatric leukaemia would just, you
    know, – it has a very high survival rate
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    – you know, it still it punches you in the
    gut, but when they sit you down…
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    You’re just… yeah, you’re in shock for
    months.
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    After the shock dissipates, the dislocation
    between the patient’s perspective and that
  • 54:36 - 54:42
    of their medical teams was a common factor
    in all the cases we covered during filming.
  • 54:42 - 54:46
    It is clear that while the Hutchison's have
    both a deep respect and appreciation for the
  • 54:46 - 54:51
    doctors who treated their son, they had also
    come up against the same compassionate fatalism
  • 54:51 - 54:55
    that proved so unpalatable to Ben Williams
    and Richard Gerber.
  • 54:55 - 54:58
    I think that one argument that we used to
    have with doctors when we talked about issues
  • 54:58 - 55:03
    like this is, they’d say… I’d say like
    ‘hey listen, throw the book at these kids,
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    it’s non toxic, get them in there, throw
    cocktails at them and see how they do.’
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    Their argument back to me would be like well,
    ‘if some child survives we don’t know
  • 55:12 - 55:17
    why’, and I’d say ‘yeah, but that’s
    a medical, scientific perspective. From a
  • 55:17 - 55:22
    parent perspective we don’t care why. He’s
    alive and we’ll figure it out’. If we
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    keep doing it we’ll figure it out. We’ll
    back door the answer. Somehow, someway, some
  • 55:26 - 55:30
    shape or form. The scientific community wants
    to know why.
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    They believe in what they’re doing and,
    know you, they want something that’s science
  • 55:35 - 55:39
    based. They want a clinical trial. They want
    the proven results. That takes years to get
  • 55:39 - 55:40
    that kind of data, and these kids don’t
    have that kind of time.
  • 55:40 - 55:46
    And you’d see the data, you’d see child
    after child die and you’d have that mental
  • 55:46 - 55:49
    calculus going in your mind all the time because
    you don’t want to harm your kid either because
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    the Hippocratic Oath is apparent: First do
    no harm. It’s not about that…
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    Right, and so it’s not like you’re making
    crazy, uneducated, you know, ‘we’re just
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    going to try anything’ decisions but…
  • 55:57 - 56:03
    You are absolutely right but like okay, but
    I know this outcome. I don’t know what this
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    is going to be, but I know where this is going.
  • 56:06 - 56:12
    Given that the probability that the patient
    is going to die is astronomical – it’s
  • 56:12 - 56:19
    almost 100% – what harm is there is adding
    other ingredients to the therapy?
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    Why on earth would you possibly oppose it?
    And the only answer to that is well, that’s
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    not part of the standard care and we’re
    afraid that if you use anything other than
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    the standard of care that somehow we’ll
    make things worse in a way that we don’t
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    understand. That’s not an acceptable position
    in my view.
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    For the vast majority of patients, it is also
    an unacceptable position. The advent of the
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    internet has seen a growing underground network
    of patients and carers supporting each other.
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    This film is a direct result of such a community.
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    We had, you know, the whole community of neuroblastoma
    parents who were medical doctors and things
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    themselves, and what we tried to do was read
    the preclinical data, you know, and we were
  • 57:04 - 57:08
    just trying to stay ahead of the curve and
    kind of predict where things were going to
  • 57:08 - 57:12
    go clinically. You know, you see a single
    agent clinical trial and you know the data
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    for that or you talk to – it might not be
    published data – but because we are neuroblastoma
  • 57:16 - 57:21
    community we know that 10 kids are on it and
    they all progressed. There’d be publish,
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    preclinical data saying that ‘hey, the next
    trial that’s going to come up is going to
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    be adding this second drug’, and so we would
    get the second drug, and that was very common
  • 57:29 - 57:31
    place.
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    High profile survivors like Ben and Rich find
    themselves inundated with requests for their
  • 57:36 - 57:41
    advice, and having experienced the despair
    of falling outside the medical system themselves,
  • 57:41 - 57:46
    they can appreciate the desperation of patients
    with no where to left to turn.
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    I’m an engineer, and many engineers carry
    out risk benefit analysis naturally and routinely
  • 57:52 - 57:59
    in their work. In terms of the cocktails that
    I had identified, I did my own independent
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    research, evaluated what the potential benefits
    were compared to the side effects, and it
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    was quite clearly something that ought to
    be tried. With the benefit of hindsight and
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    the reflection of where I am relative to the
    prognosis, I am concerned that this approach
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    could not have taken place sooner. Many of
    the doctors feel that they are not able to
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    engage in these off plan treatments, and perhaps
    those that are outside the normal sphere of
  • 58:19 - 58:25
    training because they tend to feel that the
    Hippocratic Oath limits their ability to do
  • 58:25 - 58:31
    that in the principle of ‘do no harm’.
    But I believe that there are equally sins
  • 58:31 - 58:38
    of omission as there are
    of commission.
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    There is no doubt that in the future we’re
    going to be looking at multiple therapies.
  • 59:05 - 59:12
    The question that arises: doesn’t the patient
    have the right to go an pursue combination
  • 59:12 - 59:18
    therapies and put them all together in a way
    they think and their doctors hope will facilitate
  • 59:18 - 59:24
    a long term cure? The problem again comes
    back to the issue of toxicity. Unless you
  • 59:24 - 59:30
    carefully study these combination therapies,
    you may be doing more harm than good in many
  • 59:30 - 59:36
    cases, and although that there is clearly
    the impetus to move forward with combination
  • 59:36 - 59:39
    therapies, they need to be studied.
  • 59:39 - 59:44
    However, for the reasons outlined in this
    film, there is a distinct lack of clinical
  • 59:44 - 59:49
    trials investigating a cocktail approach to
    cancer. Instead, it is normal practice to
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    expect patients to forgo curative treatment
    in the hope that their sacrifice will someday
  • 59:54 - 59:56
    benefit someone else in their same position.
  • 59:56 - 60:02
    If you go to a major medical centre where
    they are doing clinical trials, the trials
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    are not really a hundred percent intended
    for the patient, they’d be intended for
  • 60:08 - 60:15
    a future patient, it’s intended for science
    - or for a drug company - but, it’s intended
  • 60:15 - 60:21
    to find out more about the drug, it’s not
    intended to cure the patient. Patients are
  • 60:21 - 60:28
    not aware of that. For science it is important
    to study things singly because otherwise it’s
  • 60:31 - 60:37
    confounding. We cannot deal with multiple
    unknown variables. You throw five drugs that
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    we don’t know much about t somebody and
    they get better, we don’t really know what
  • 60:41 - 60:46
    happened. Which one of A, B, C, D, E did it?
    We don’t know. You want to find out how
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    a drug works… that’s in scientific spirit.
    That’s great for science, but there is some
  • 60:52 - 60:57
    conflict with clinical care which is with
    a different intention: you want the patient
  • 60:57 - 60:58
    to get better.
  • 60:58 - 61:04
    When looked at closely, the history of cancer
    tells its own story: In another era, when
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    doctors were more empowered to pursue patient
    survival as a primary objective of clinical
  • 61:08 - 61:13
    care, dramatic progress was achieved in a
    relatively short period of time. One such
  • 61:13 - 61:19
    doctor whose belief system is entirely geared
    to patient outcome was a young haematologist
  • 61:19 - 61:25
    working at the newly formed National Cancer
    Institute in the early 1960s. Emil J Freireich
  • 61:25 - 61:30
    was certain he had figured out a way to send
    leukaemia into permanent remission. But he
  • 61:30 - 61:35
    faced enormous resistance for attempting to
    combine highly toxic chemotherapy agents.
  • 61:35 - 61:42
    When I started treating leukaemia - I have
    a slide of a quote from an article that was
  • 61:42 - 61:48
    written by a guy named Arthur Haut, who was
    one of the senior physicians at the number
  • 61:48 - 61:54
    one haematology department in the world in
    1955 when I went to the cancer institute.
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    The quote says… just what you said: giving
    these drugs , 6MP, methotrexate, prednisone
  • 62:01 - 62:08
    to these children is just prolonging their
    suffering, it has no effect on their survival.
  • 62:10 - 62:15
    And he was on our consultant (panel) and he
    told our advisors that Freireich should no
  • 62:15 - 62:19
    be allowed to poison these dying children
    –to let them die.
  • 62:19 - 62:25
    Undeterred by fierce resistance from his professional
    community, Freireich questionably pushed ahead
  • 62:25 - 62:31
    with the assistance of some desperate parents,
    and the rest is history. Today, a giant in
  • 62:31 - 62:36
    the field of oncology after blazing the trail
    towards cure for childhood leukaemia, and
  • 62:36 - 62:42
    in the process inventing the platelet transfusion,
    at the age of 87 Dr Emil J Freireich has half
  • 62:42 - 62:46
    a century of outstanding achievement in clinical
    practice to reflect upon.
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    See I’m a devotee of the Hippocratic Oath.
    That’s why it’s on my wall. Every physician
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    in the United States, and I think in England
    and in Europe, who graduates from his medical
  • 63:00 - 63:07
    training swears by the Hippocratic Oath. Now
    what’s the essence of the Hippocratic Oath?
  • 63:07 - 63:14
    Now what’s the essence of Hippocratic Oath
    is that, as a physician, I will always do
  • 63:15 - 63:21
    whatever I can to help a person who is ill
    and consults me.
  • 63:21 - 63:26
    For cancer patients staring death in the face,
    the chilling realisation that despite a palliative
  • 63:26 - 63:30
    standard of care, they must wait for their
    cancer to inevitably progress before their
  • 63:30 - 63:37
    doctors will engage with experimental treatments,
    defies belief. In the vast majority of cases,
  • 63:37 - 63:43
    only then do experimental treatment options
    become available to patients. We asked Dr
  • 63:43 - 63:47
    Freireich if in his opinion, this broke the
    Hippocratic Oath…
  • 63:47 - 63:54
    It certainly does. Is there ever a circumstance
    where a patient should be denied treatment
  • 63:58 - 64:05
    which could – in someone’s imagination
    – help him survive his disease? And the
  • 64:05 - 64:07
    answer is no.
  • 64:07 - 64:11
    System Failure
  • 64:11 - 64:18
    Would the things we did in 1960 be possible
    in today? The answer is, unequivocally, capital
  • 64:19 - 64:23
    ‘N’, capital ‘O’ – NO!
  • 64:23 - 64:28
    By obliging doctors to follow rigid protocols,
    our system for validating cancer treatments
  • 64:28 - 64:32
    is not only failing patients, but it is also
    failing the innovators who are developing
  • 64:32 - 64:38
    treatments: a hidden consequence of forcing
    patients to wait for cancer to reoccur before
  • 64:38 - 64:43
    giving them access to experimental treatments,
    is that potentially promising treatments are
  • 64:43 - 64:48
    first tested only on these ‘recurrent’
    patient populations, who already have genetically
  • 64:48 - 64:53
    mature cancer, and thus are far less likely
    to respond to the drug or treatment than an
  • 64:53 - 65:00
    early stage patient. This means potentially
    life-extending treatments for the newly diagnosed
  • 65:00 - 65:06
    are discarded forever because they cannot
    show effect first on moribund patients.
  • 65:06 - 65:12
    Reforming regulations is the most important
    thing we can do in advancing health in the
  • 65:12 - 65:20
    world. The AIDS patients told us how to solve
    societal problems for specific diseases. See,
  • 65:21 - 65:26
    the AIDS guys were homosexuals and they were
    used to being politically active and they
  • 65:26 - 65:32
    were organised, and when the FDA said you
    have to do a randomised trial where you get
  • 65:32 - 65:37
    treatment you know won’t work and compare
    it to treatment you think will work… they
  • 65:37 - 65:44
    said ‘hell no!’ and they marched on the
    hill and they won. My personal view is that
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    that’s the way medical problems should be
    solved. First we need the knowledge, then
  • 65:51 - 65:54
    we need the social solution.
  • 65:54 - 65:59
    ACT UP - the AIDS coalition to unleash power
    - was a direct action group widely credited
  • 65:59 - 66:04
    with instigating the rapid acceleration of
    AIDS research that transformed the once deadly
  • 66:04 - 66:10
    virus to a chronic condition in little over
    a decade. Larry Kramer, New York City playwright
  • 66:10 - 66:16
    and author was a founding member, speaking
    in the late 1980s as the AIDS pandemic gripped
  • 66:16 - 66:21
    the world in the face of institutional and
    political indifference, his words echo violently
  • 66:21 - 66:28
    in the ears of cancer patients today: ‘placebo
    studies were not designed with terminal illness
  • 66:28 - 66:34
    in mind’ he said and the ‘academic mechanism
    of testing drugs is becoming life-threatening
  • 66:34 - 66:41
    rather than life-saving’, it’s ‘genocide
    by neglect’ he claimed. As a result of ACT
  • 66:41 - 66:47
    UP’s unprecedented lobbying of congress
    and the FDA, which included emptying urns
  • 66:47 - 66:52
    onto the white house lawn as per the will
    of their members’, today’s life saving
  • 66:52 - 66:55
    treatment for AIDS is given to patient’s
    despite it never having passed a randomised
  • 66:55 - 67:02
    phase three clinical trial: How many cancer
    patients must die before the regulators recognise
  • 67:04 - 67:07
    this needs to be adapted to oncology in the
    same fashion?
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    All they have to learn to do is balance benefits
    against risks. If you have nine drugs that
  • 67:15 - 67:20
    are going to cure glioblastoma and you have
    a patient that is 100% likely to die… lets
  • 67:20 - 67:27
    give them the nine drugs! Who’s against
    that? You can’t do anything risk free. That
  • 67:27 - 67:34
    does not exist. You can’t walk across the
    street without taking a chance. You can’t
  • 67:34 - 67:41
    wake up in the morning, you can’t eat food.
    I mean, it’s nice to do as well as you can,
  • 67:42 - 67:46
    but you can’t be insane and we are insane
    now. The regulatory process is insane. They
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    are trying to protect people. They inadvertently
    get into a situation where they kill people…
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    but that’s not their intent. We’re just
    human unfortunately.
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    For patients and carers, once these inefficiencies
    come into focus, the incentive to adhere to
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    the rules of clinical trials evaporates along
    with the validity of the precious data the
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    trial produces.
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    Do you want me to be totally honest? Yeah,
    sure, neuroblastoma patients ship drugs. We’d
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    ship drugs by fed ex. We’d find clinical
    trials and we’d be on a single agent and
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    we’d – other parents on the other trial
    would send us their drugs and we’d send
  • 68:26 - 68:33
    our drugs. We had viruses from Israel that
    other parents had given us that we’d tried
  • 68:33 - 68:39
    and… that’s what we did. There’s a whole
    black market and grey market of drugs because
  • 68:39 - 68:44
    parents are so knowledgeable. I mean, there’s
    Doctors, PHDs, MDs that have children with
  • 68:44 - 68:48
    neuroblastoma and it’s a very tight community
    and they would do anything for anybody. In
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    fact, we, you know - that’s what we did
    - created our own clinical trials for the
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    most part.
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    In randomised phase 3 trials, you have the
    additional disincentive of placebo control
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    for half the patients. A quick glance at the
    appalling enrolment rates around the world
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    and we can see that patient’s vote with
    their feet.
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    It’s so obvious that if the FDA allowed
    us to be rational about treating cancer patients,
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    we could move them all one hundred times faster.
    As we did with AIDS, because what happened
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    was, the drug was good and the patients didn’t
    have to die to prove it. And as you said in
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    the beginning ‘you need to do a randomised
    phase 3 clinical trial’ No! if you have
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    phase two evidence that’s clear, if you
    have an objective response, objective survival,
  • 69:38 - 69:46
    objective progression free survival, that’s
    it… The truth is in itself. You don’t
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    have to do comparison, you have to have the
    truth, you have to have reproducibility, you
  • 69:52 - 69:58
    have to have a lack of bias, and what you’ve
    got there… that’s the answer man! The
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    AIDS guys did it. The cancer patients have
    to do it. We have to force congress to change
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    legislation so that when a doctor and a patient
    agree that the benefits succeed the potential
  • 70:12 - 70:19
    risk… that should go. Whatever way we make
    it, that’s got to go.
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    New horizons
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    In all of the clinical trials to date, there
    really hasn’t been much progress. Meanwhile,
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    those people however are dying. Yes, people
    live a little bit longer with the standard
  • 70:36 - 70:43
    approach that we have now, but it’s not
    much. And so, I would say this approach is
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    not working. It’s time to try something
    else.
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    Traditionally, regulatory bodies have made
    decisions that have been based on population
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    studies. So if you think about it for a moment…
    We introduce a drug into a large population
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    in which we know there are many variables
    in that population - people are different
  • 71:05 - 71:11
    – and we can’t control for those variables,
    we don’t know what they are sometimes, we
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    just know they exist. So the way we dealt
    with that in the past was to create this statistical
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    model of randomisation and, in fact, blinded
    randomisation so we cover our eyes, and we
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    flip a coin, and we divide people up, and
    we look for an outcome, and when we get an
  • 71:34 - 71:41
    outcome we put a statistical number on it,
    and that gives us some assurance that yes,
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    that was really due to the drug and not something
    else. Do we need that today? If I could go
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    into that population and I could - today - tell
    you about those variables - which I couldn’t
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    before - because now I understand those genetic,
    molecular make up of their individual cancer,
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    and I also under stand their genetic molecular
    make up of them, as a person, and now I can
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    refine those populations. Do I still need
    to put a blindfold on and flip a coin? Or
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    can I begin to be much more rational about
    who I would treat with a particular drug and
  • 72:27 - 72:34
    who I would not. That is the adaptive trial
    design. That is what cancer is teaching us
  • 72:34 - 72:41
    and telling us what we can now do, so we don’t
    need to depend upon that old model. We can
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    be much more sophisticated, much more rational,
    and we will get answers faster, we’ll be
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    much more certain that our answer is in fact
    correct, and we will be able to allow patients
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    to have access to lifesaving drugs quicker,
    faster, and with more assurance that they
  • 73:04 - 73:07
    are going to help them and not hurt them.
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    We accompanied Ben to University of California
    Moore’s Cancer Centre to meet one of a new
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    generation of oncologists engaged in an ambitious
    program of personalized medicine...
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    There’s two issues. One is, you know, what
    are the best combinations for each particular
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    patient? Because, I think we all know that
    glioblastoma is a different disease in every
  • 73:27 - 73:32
    single patient. If you took a hundred people
    in a room there’s probably fifty diseases,
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    and so what we’re finding is that single
    drugs seem to work better in some patients
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    than others because of the genetic make-up
    of the tumour, and so when you talk about
  • 73:43 - 73:48
    combinations it’s even more complicated.
    But we actually have a project where we’re
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    taking all the genetic information from each
    patient, putting it into a computer, and coming
  • 73:52 - 73:57
    up with an answer to what drugs would be most
    effective to each patient. So, it’s really
  • 73:57 - 74:02
    a personalised medicine approach to understanding
    the genetics and using that information to
  • 74:02 - 74:05
    find the best combinations.
  • 74:05 - 74:09
    So as we move towards personalised medicine
    where patients will receive combinations of
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    treatments, and that these combinations should
    reflect the genetic characteristics of different
  • 74:14 - 74:19
    patients, then the only logical conclusion
    to be drawn is that until we dismantle the
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    sanctity reserved for large-scale, randomised
    phase III trials, we will never see meaningful
  • 74:24 - 74:27
    changes in patient survival.
  • 74:27 - 74:33
    Personalised medicine is the mantra. The irony
    is that the practices up to now are directly
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    opposed to doing it. You can not – for most
    of the randomised trials that are done, even
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    though you get a significant result – tell
    an individual patient what the chances of
  • 74:45 - 74:51
    that treatment working for them will be. Right,
    I mean, so, if you can’t do that, what you
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    started out… I mean the purpose of what
    you started out to do - you’ve failed. You
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    need more homogeneous patients so that you
    can actually say for this group of fairly
  • 75:03 - 75:08
    similar patients this particular treatment
    will work. Well, you’re never going to do
  • 75:08 - 75:13
    randomised trials once you start thinking
    in that framework of needing homogeneous patients.
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    Well if we don’t change the regulatory process,
    what we’re already seeing is the biomedical
  • 75:19 - 75:26
    research enterprises collapsing. We’re seeing
    investments beginning to dwindle because quite
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    frankly if you’re a venture capitalist or
    an equity investor, you have far safer, quicker
  • 75:37 - 75:44
    opportunities for a return on investment than
    to engage in hoping that a molecule - that
  • 75:44 - 75:49
    you’re going to be willing to fund very
    early in it’s development – some how or
  • 75:49 - 75:56
    other is going to make its way through a 10-15
    year process at the cost of over a billion
  • 75:57 - 76:04
    dollars to ultimately be able to give you
    a return on that investment. So we’re seeing
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    negative consequences of not doing something,
    and at the same time we also have the realisation
  • 76:11 - 76:18
    of the incredible opportunities if we would
    do something and therefore, change has to
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    occur.
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    Acceleration
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    At the current rate of development of combination
    therapy, testing combinations one by one,
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    it will take decades, and possibly centuries
    to deliver more expansive cocktails to the
  • 76:33 - 76:39
    clinic. In the face of a clinical trial system
    that is clearly failing, a new line of thought
  • 76:39 - 76:45
    is gaining traction in some oncology circles.
    One man who is not hiding behind protocol,
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    is Marc Halatsch. He founded the International
    Initiative for the Acceleration of Glioblastoma
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    Care as a framework to combine expertise and
    engineer a treatment he feels will have a
  • 76:55 - 77:01
    better chance of combating cancer’s genetic
    instability. This radical work involving untested
  • 77:01 - 77:06
    drug cocktails does not sit comfortably within
    his scientific community, nor the pharmaceutical
  • 77:06 - 77:09
    companies Marc would normally enjoy sponsorship
    from.
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    We have to (*) the protocol and that initially
    involved 17 drugs. All of these drugs were
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    chosen to act in (*) against glioblastoma
    to inhibit or suffocate signalling pathways
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    that are important for glioblastoma. We consciously
    avoided to identify new targets for the glioblastoma
  • 77:34 - 77:41
    treatment. We were referring to drugs that
    are approved are marketed for years for other
  • 77:41 - 77:48
    non-oncological indications and for which
    a reasonable safety profile is already available.
  • 77:48 - 77:55
    So, the accelerated improvement means that
    we are using drugs, that we want to use drugs
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    that are already available today, for which
    we already have experience with human use
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    rather than identifying a new molecular target
    and validating a candidate track for years
  • 78:07 - 78:13
    and years and then possibly finding out that
    it doesn’t work. We have a rational basis
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    that these compounds are effective, that they
    can be effective, and that they have reasonable
  • 78:20 - 78:26
    and justifiable risks even though we do not
    know how these risks adapt when these substances
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    are combined.
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    During filming we were contacted by a senior
    drug researcher for Glaxo-Smith-Klein in Cambridge
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    England, who had been diagnosed himself with
    a high grade, inoperable brain tumour. He
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    refused to come on camera, even with his identity
    hidden, but he was interested in Marc’s
  • 78:44 - 78:50
    paper, referring to the science behind it
    as ‘beautiful’. But when he travelled
  • 78:50 - 78:54
    to a major centre for brain cancer in London,
    in the hope of finding a forward thinking
  • 78:54 - 79:01
    clinician who might prescribe him the experimental
    protocol, he was told the study was ‘unscientific’.
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    He died in 2014 leaving three young children.
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    Well if people say the paper is unscientific…
    I think that it’s a judgement that cannot
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    be accepted because the paper is certainly
    not unscientific. It is making a proposal
  • 79:24 - 79:31
    based on a set of hypothesis, and all of these
    hypothesis are based on preclinical data,
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    on what we think is robust preclinical data.
    What we can say for sure is that the recent
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    architecture of medical research for glioblastoma
    patients has failed to bring out substantial
  • 79:45 - 79:52
    improvements for these patients and we don’t
    know if you can do it better, but… we want
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    to try.
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    It is no coincidence that cancer cocktails
    are first coming to light in the arena of
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    brain cancer. The limitations of surgical
    intervention in the brain provide the impetus.
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    There’s a shift going on right now in a
    lot of oncology where you may want to biopsy
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    a cancer, treat for four weeks with a mono
    therapy (one drug), re-biopsy that cancer,
  • 80:17 - 80:24
    see if the genetics have changed, treat again
    with a different drug for some period of time…
  • 80:24 - 80:29
    and so as the cancer shifts and mutates, you’re
    changing your therapy accordingly.
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    If you don’t do that you may be treating
    according to a profile that is simple outdated
  • 80:33 - 80:38
    because a tumour is a dynamic. The biological
    situation may already have changed.
  • 80:38 - 80:43
    Now we can’t biopsy like that in the brain.
    You can do that in the lung, the breast and
  • 80:43 - 80:48
    other answers… bone marrow. So we have to
    figure out how’ll overcome those genetic
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    changes that will occur with treatment.
  • 80:51 - 80:58
    Well I believe, in the absence of bio-marker
    profiles, it is very important to have a pragmatic
  • 80:59 - 81:06
    approach and to hit multiple targets at once
    so that even if there is a change in the profile
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    and some pathways may compensate for other
    inhibited pathways, you have a high chance
  • 81:15 - 81:22
    of maintaining a higher therapeutic pressure
    against the tumour. In general, multi agent
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    protocol can be defended by pointing out the
    heterogeneity of the tumour, and if you have
  • 81:28 - 81:34
    a set of drugs that act in concert then you
    have a simple rule, and the rule is, the more
  • 81:34 - 81:41
    drugs you have the better you probably will
    be able to address heterogeneity of the tumour.
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    This is an example of the new rational science
    of treating cancer, based on the lessons that
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    cancer itself is teaching us. Yet what Marc
    and his peers are pioneering, is in reality
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    revolutionary. The pharmaceutical companies
    that own the drugs he is using have refused
  • 81:57 - 82:01
    financial support for his research, and he
    is risking his professional reputation in
  • 82:01 - 82:07
    medical circles by even publishing this paper.
    Cocktails are considered radical because if
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    such an ‘unscientific’ approach were to
    work for patients, it would equate to opening
  • 82:12 - 82:16
    Pandora’s box, with the associated danger
    of patients no longer being willing to accept
  • 82:16 - 82:22
    current medical practices. Few oncologists
    would be willing to support such an investigation,
  • 82:22 - 82:26
    John Boockvar in New York, was an exception.
  • 82:26 - 82:33
    The idea of carpet bombing a cancer is an
    appropriate idea where you just bombard the
  • 82:35 - 82:40
    tumour with multiple agents that will come
    at it from different signalling pathways,
  • 82:40 - 82:47
    much like they do with HIV medicines, and
    it will take that kind of approach to see
  • 82:47 - 82:53
    – I think – good outcomes. Of course our
    delivery mechanisms, our ability to get these
  • 82:53 - 83:00
    drugs into tumours has to be better, our immune
    systems in these patients has to be augmented,
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    improvement in immunotherapy will be an important
    adjunct to any treatment, because if we cant
  • 83:09 - 83:14
    identify mutating cells or cells that are
    distinct you have no chance… because chemotherapy
  • 83:14 - 83:21
    is only going to do so much without destroying
    the natural body.
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    Never say die
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    Of all the patients we met during filming,
    one man’s story stood out for his exceptional
  • 83:30 - 83:35
    courage and determination in the face of imminent
    death. Anders Ferry is still fighting his
  • 83:35 - 83:42
    disease today, 15 years after being diagnosed
    with terminal cancer at the age of 32. His
  • 83:42 - 83:47
    remarkable struggle for survival has encompassed
    6 recurrences and 5 neurosurgeries including
  • 83:47 - 83:53
    some ground-breaking therapies and interventions.
    Unable to travel alone, Anders and his father
  • 83:53 - 83:58
    Arne travelled to London at their own cost
    from the far north of Sweden, to share his
  • 83:58 - 83:59
    story in this film.
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    Well I have been experimenting with my own
    body and taking various odd combinations of
  • 84:06 - 84:13
    medications and non-mediations as well, under
    very uncontrolled circumstances. So this has
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    been a marathon for me and for my wife in
    particular. She has seen me through extremely
  • 84:23 - 84:30
    low points. The low points have been really
    low, close to death.
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    Ander’s original course of chemotherapy
    was stopped due to the development of a severe
  • 84:35 - 84:40
    rash, a result of sitting in a sauna trying
    to raise his body temperature in order to
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    increase the efficacy of the chemotherapy,
    Anders claims this rash released him from
  • 84:45 - 84:50
    a chemo educed mental-fog and afforded him
    the clarity to do some preliminary research
  • 84:50 - 84:56
    online. He immediately enrolled on an innovative
    American trial for an early immunological
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    compound. However, the compound was unapproved
    in Europe at the time, so he had to smuggle
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    the drugs through customs as battery electrolytes.
  • 85:04 - 85:10
    So I was doing very well on that treatment,
    but then after a couple of years they said
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    ‘now we’re dropping the trial. Unfortunately
    you won’t get anymore drug.’ And I panicked
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    of course. I thought, well this is what has
    been keeping me alive for so long so I immediately
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    went into action to try to manufacture it
    myself. As a physicist and physical chemist,
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    it wouldn’t be difficult for me to actually
    create that molecule in the lab. So I pulled
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    all the patents and bought the chemicals,
    borrowed lab resources, and my mother volunteered
  • 85:42 - 85:47
    to be my guinea pig to try it first before
    I injected it myself.
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    At the eleventh hour, the founder of the drug
    company, who had got wind of Anders’ desperate
  • 85:52 - 85:58
    attempt to stay on the medication, called
    and insisted he did not use his own acetate,
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    instead sending him a life-time supply of
    the drug the next day. By this time, it was
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    becoming clear to Anders that this was just
    the beginning of his struggle, and that the
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    next challenge lay in combining different
    treatments.
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    Well I got the idea to do several things simultaneously
    when I read Ben Williams’ thoughts on it.
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    So I started adding little drugs that I could
    access, gradually building up to a protocol
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    that involved many drugs in a big drug cocktail.
    At its peak I was taking at least 8 prescription
  • 86:41 - 86:48
    drugs – off label… of course, they were
    not chemotherapies, but assigned for entirely
  • 86:52 - 86:59
    different diagnosis – and lots of nutraceuticals.
    The biggest obstacle to implement this protocol
  • 87:01 - 87:08
    has always been to actually find the prescription
    drugs. They are available but you need somebody
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    to write the prescription, and I have been
    lucky to have relatives and close friends
  • 87:14 - 87:21
    that could manage that for me. Sticking their
    necks out. And occasionally my treating oncologist
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    has written out a few, but very reluctantly,
    and has always been questioning ‘but why?
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    Is there any evidence for this?’ And I said
    ‘no, but there’s a potential in it.
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    Evidence is weak but there is some kind of hope.
    Let’s try it, I’m willing.’ As the alternative
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    of doing nothing, you just look at the statistics…
    every body dies within two years they said.
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    Well that’s not acceptable. By doing something
    proactively, possibly ruining your health,
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    getting terrible side effects, but also possibly
    getting real benefits, extending life. Like
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    I’m here now, a decade and a half later,
    I’ve got two little kids, a happy wife,
  • 88:29 - 88:34
    a beautiful wife. My little Lynae and Tim
    they are just my pride and joy of my life.
  • 88:34 - 88:41
    So, it has worked out well for me. Sure I
    have deficits, but I can live with that. Life
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    with deficits is still life.
  • 88:48 - 88:52
    On three separate occasions, Anders has fought
    back his cancer by combining conventional
  • 88:52 - 88:58
    surgery with innovative clinical trials, and
    extensive, specifically tailored cocktails
  • 88:58 - 89:00
    of off-label drugs and nutraceuticals.
  • 89:00 - 89:07
    Well concerning the oncologists, I said ‘I’m
    not really satisfied’ because when Anders
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    has his medication and it didn’t work and
    the protocol didn’t work, they said ‘sorry
  • 89:16 - 89:23
    we can’t do anymore. You go home and play
    with your girl’. I put the question, who
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    is responsible for their lives? Is it my son
    who is supposed to take the care in his hand,
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    or is it so that the oncologist must have
    some responsibility? He just can’t hide
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    behind the protocols.
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    Ander’s fight is one that is far from over,
    and yet he too spends a great deal of his
  • 89:57 - 90:02
    time advising other patients, sharing whatever
    knowledge or contacts he may have.
  • 90:02 - 90:08
    So ever since I created my internet persona
    – Andrew Yassin – and hit the internet,
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    I’ve seen so many people come and go on
    the lists. It’s terrible. Many people of
  • 90:17 - 90:24
    whom I’ve connected so strongly to, just
    pass away. It’s dreadful.
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    Do you think that those patients were denied
    something?
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    Absolutely, they were absolutely denied the
    best care that could have been provided. I’m
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    sure many more would have been alive – or
    at least had a much better chance to be alive
  • 90:51 - 90:58
    – if they had access to what I have been
    doing for instance. I am also sure that this
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    approach could apply to other cancers, not
    only brain tumours. I’ve seen effect in
  • 91:07 - 91:14
    advanced prostate cancers and breast cancers.
    If I create a prescription of various off-label
  • 91:15 - 91:22
    drugs there is a viable option of prolonging
    life for a long time, and that is also including
  • 91:26 - 91:33
    a creative and active life. I play my trumpet
    at international jazz festivals. Perhaps not
  • 91:34 - 91:41
    at the same level as I could before having
    all the surgeries, but still… it is a life
  • 91:42 - 91:49
    I enjoy and the kind I’m of proud of so
    I’ve done well.
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    Reflections
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    Already facing a terminal diagnosis, should
    cancer patients have to shoulder the additional
  • 91:59 - 92:05
    terror of unsupervised self-medication in
    search of a meaningful attempt at survival?
  • 92:05 - 92:10
    None of the patients we spoke to wanted to
    go it alone, they desperately wanted the reassurance
  • 92:10 - 92:15
    of professional medical supervision. Their
    courage has showed us that the impossible
  • 92:15 - 92:20
    is sometimes possible, that there could be
    a solution to problems we perceive as beyond
  • 92:20 - 92:21
    our reach.
  • 92:21 - 92:28
    I believe the medical community has an obligation
    to do research into the cause – the clinical
  • 92:31 - 92:38
    cause of patients who have undertaken self-medications,
    and who have reported extended life-span with
  • 92:41 - 92:46
    glioblastoma. I think it is an ethical obligation
    of the medical community to try to understand
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    what happened with these patients, how they
    did it, what their quality of life was and
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    how long they survived - these patients cannot
    be ignored.
  • 92:54 - 93:01
    As survivors today, patients like Ben, Rich
    and Anders stand as proof of principal. We
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    have the unprecedented opportunity to follow
    this lead, employing the gifts that science
  • 93:06 - 93:13
    and technology are affording us to actively
    embrace change. In the era of big data, Google,
  • 93:13 - 93:18
    and Apple, society can rationally ask the
    medical establishment to reconsider its confidence
  • 93:18 - 93:24
    in a regulatory structure that served us well
    in the past, but that appears slow, inefficient
  • 93:24 - 93:31
    and even inhumane in the context of terminal
    disease today. The quid pro quo, that can
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    secure the continuation of a scientific methodology
    and rational development of therapies, can
  • 93:37 - 93:44
    be the clinical data from EVERY patient. Retrospective
    analysis of this data in the era of genomics,
  • 93:44 - 93:49
    can deliver the precious information we are
    searching for in clinical trials, faster,
  • 93:49 - 93:51
    cheaper and more accurately.
  • 93:51 - 93:58
    Every professional I have ever talked to,
    every oncologist, every neuro-oncologist,
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    every radio oncologist I’ve talked to, believes
    that I am a freak chance, that my tumour would
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    have been put under control anyway, and that
    my cocktail therapy didn’t contribute one
  • 94:18 - 94:25
    iota to it. They also think that Ben Williams
    is a freak chance and that his 18 years would
  • 94:27 - 94:34
    have been given to him even without his experimentation,
    and anybody that lives a long time – longer
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    than average - and uses a cocktail approach
    is similarly dismissed as a freak chance.
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    But at a certain point, people are going to
    have to start looking at the evidence.
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    Some will dismiss this evidence as merely
    exceptions that prove the rule. But it is
  • 94:58 - 95:04
    hard to dismiss as coincidence Ben, Rich and
    Anders’ shared academic background and scientific
  • 95:04 - 95:10
    training, unusual or illegal access to prescription
    drugs, and the determination to overcome all
  • 95:10 - 95:15
    obstacles in the pursuit of their unorthodox
    cancer therapies.
  • 95:15 - 95:22
    I’m quite sure that if I hadn't done what
    I did I wouldn't be alive today. If I had
  • 95:22 - 95:29
    simply followed the prescription of my neuro-oncologist
    I would have been just another statistic,
  • 95:30 - 95:37
    namely I would have lived another 12-18 months
    and that would have been it. Because to my
  • 95:37 - 95:40
    knowledge he never had another long term survivor...
  • 95:40 - 95:40
    'Insanity is doing the same thing over and
    over again, and expecting a different result'
  • 95:40 - 95:40
    – Albert Einstein
  • 95:40 - 95:41
    The Repurposing of Drugs in Oncology is an
    initiative to provide oncologists with a robust,
  • 95:41 - 95:41
    independently researched database of old drugs
    that could be helpful to combine with existing
  • 95:41 - 95:42
    standards of care across all cancers, enabling
    them to prescribe off-label drugs with confidence
  • 95:42 - 95:42
    they will help and not hurt their patients.
  • 95:42 - 95:43
    With the support of a small charity in Belgium,
    Marc Halatsch and Richard Kast’s CUSP9 cocktail
  • 95:43 - 95:45
    of drugs is in final stages of approval in
    Germany for a phase 1 clinical trial for recurrent
  • 95:45 - 95:46
    glioblastoma. If the German regulatory authority
    approve this trial in spring 2015 as anticipated,
  • 95:46 - 95:47
    they will set a global precedent for other
    regulators to follow.
  • 95:47 - 95:49
    The film makers, together with the patients
    and some of the doctors featured in this film,
  • 95:49 - 95:55
    are working with a UK charity to open an international
    phase 1 clinical trial to investigate an expansive
  • 95:55 - 96:01
    cocktail approach for the newly diagnosed,
    as an adjuvant therapy to the standard of
  • 96:01 - 96:07
    care for Glioblastoma. It remains to be seen
    how such a proposal will be received by the
  • 96:07 - 96:09
    regulatory authorities across the world…
  • 96:09 - 96:16
    However, even if these trials go ahead, it
    will take vast sums of money and many years
  • 96:16 - 96:23
    to ascertain if they hold benefit for patients.
    Closing The Gap Now is an initiative to demonstrate
  • 96:23 - 96:28
    consensus within the scientific community
    that patients with a prognosis of less than
  • 96:28 - 96:33
    24 months should be allowed access to any
    treatment with phase 1 approval, in return
  • 96:33 - 96:35
    for donating their clinical data to an open-access
    research database. The scientific community
  • 96:35 - 96:37
    would then be able to obtain certainty about
    which treatments work for which patients much
  • 96:37 - 96:44
    faster, cheaper and more accurately than the
    current system allows. www.closingthegapnow.org
  • 96:44 - 96:51
    For brain tumour patients who wish to view
    extended interviews from this film please
  • 96:54 - 96:56
    visit www.virtualtrials.com
Title:
Surviving Terminal Cancer
Video Language:
English
Duration:
01:38:09

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