Why we should give everyone a basic income | Rutger Bregman | TEDxMaastricht
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0:02 - 0:04Rutger Bregman
Basic Income for everyone -
0:13 - 0:15Ladies and Gentlemen,
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0:15 - 0:21today I'd like to share
a big idea with you. -
0:21 - 0:24In fact, I believe it could be
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0:24 - 0:28one of the biggest ideas
of the 21st century. -
0:28 - 0:30It's an idea that
could unite politicians -
0:30 - 0:32from the left to the right
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0:32 - 0:36in fixing our broken
social security system. -
0:36 - 0:39It's an idea that could
give dignity to millions -
0:39 - 0:41and accomplish what we should have
accomplished long ago -
0:41 - 0:45especially in our rich
and wealthy countries: -
0:45 - 0:47eradicating poverty.
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0:47 - 0:49But first,
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0:49 - 0:53I have to be honest with you:
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0:53 - 0:56it's actually not my idea.
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0:56 - 0:59Now, in fact it's
the idea of this man, -
0:59 - 1:02Thomas Payne,
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1:02 - 1:04who sadly wasn't able
to make it today -
1:04 - 1:07(Laughter)
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1:07 - 1:11because -- well,
he died 200 years ago. -
1:11 - 1:14But it was also
the idea of these guys: -
1:14 - 1:19some of history's greatest thinkers.
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1:19 - 1:21Now I can hear you think:
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1:21 - 1:24What kind of idea
could unite men so different -
1:24 - 1:26such as the civil rights campaigner,
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1:26 - 1:29Martin Luther King, on the one hand,
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1:29 - 1:31and the free market
economist Milton Friedman, -
1:31 - 1:32on the other hand?
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1:32 - 1:34What idea could
unite thinkers so different -
1:34 - 1:37such as Thomas Payne,
who thought that the government -
1:37 - 1:39is the solution to most of our problems,
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1:39 - 1:41and on the other hand,
Friedrik von Hayek, -
1:41 - 1:44the Austrian economist,
who said that, well, -
1:44 - 1:48the Government is in fact
the problem, most of the time. -
1:48 - 1:51What is this idea, that goes
against the spirit of our time, -
1:51 - 1:53right through
the old political divisions -
1:53 - 1:56between the left and the right?
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1:56 - 1:58What is this great idea,
this Utopian idea -
1:58 - 2:01that so many of
history's greatest thinkers -
2:01 - 2:04have been dreaming
about for centuries, -
2:04 - 2:06yet which has failed to come true,
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2:06 - 2:08so far?
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2:09 - 2:14Well, some people call it
the "citizen's dividend"; -
2:14 - 2:18other people call it
the "basic income." -
2:18 - 2:20Now, I like to call it
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2:20 - 2:24"free money for everyone."
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2:24 - 2:29Now, that sounds good, right?
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2:29 - 2:30I know, it also sounds
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2:30 - 2:32like a Utopian fantasy,
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2:32 - 2:34something that will never come true,
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2:34 - 2:36especially not in our lifetime.
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2:36 - 2:38But I want to remind you beforehand:
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2:38 - 2:41Utopias have a tendency
of coming true. -
2:41 - 2:44Just think of how
the end of slavery, -
2:44 - 2:47equal rights for men and women,
and democracy, -
2:47 - 2:50they were all regarded
as impossible ideals, once. -
2:50 - 2:55But in history, there is
something called progress. -
2:55 - 2:59So let's start with this
simple, basic question: -
2:59 - 3:01What is the basic income?
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3:01 - 3:05Well, it is a monthly grant,
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3:05 - 3:07enough to pay for your basic needs:
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3:07 - 3:10food, shelter, education.
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3:10 - 3:12That's it.
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3:12 - 3:13Now, some of you might ask:
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3:13 - 3:15Don't we have this already?
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3:15 - 3:17Isn't there something
called social security, -
3:17 - 3:20don't we have the welfare state?
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3:20 - 3:23Well, yes, but the basic income
is something entirely different. -
3:23 - 3:27In the first place, it's universal,
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3:27 - 3:29so everyone would get it.
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3:29 - 3:32Whether you're a billionaire or a beggar,
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3:32 - 3:35whether you're a man or a woman,
employed or unemployed, -
3:35 - 3:36the basic income is a right,
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3:36 - 3:39a right as a citizen of your country.
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3:39 - 3:42Moreover, it's also unconditional,
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3:42 - 3:43so you get it no matter what.
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3:43 - 3:46No one's going to tell you
what you have to do with it; -
3:46 - 3:50no one's going to tell you
what you have to do for it. -
3:50 - 3:52The basic income is not a favor,
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3:52 - 3:55but it's a right, just like, for example,
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3:55 - 3:59the freedom of speech is a right as well.
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3:59 - 4:00But most importantly,
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4:00 - 4:05in the past few decades,
in the past 30 or 40 years, -
4:05 - 4:07it has become more than just an idea.
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4:07 - 4:08"Free money for everyone"
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4:08 - 4:10is more than just an idea nowadays,
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4:10 - 4:13it has become a proven idea.
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4:13 - 4:15As you can see on this map,
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4:15 - 4:17there have been experiments
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4:17 - 4:19-- this map is from 2012, by the way --
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4:19 - 4:21there have been experiments
all over the world -
4:21 - 4:23and especially in the South,
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4:23 - 4:27from Mexico to Brazil,
from South Africa to India, -
4:27 - 4:31researchers and governments
have experimented -
4:31 - 4:33with giving people free money.
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4:33 - 4:37This map shows all the
"cash transfer programs" -
4:37 - 4:41as they call them, that reach
at least 5,000 individuals. -
4:41 - 4:45And there have also been
very large-scale experiments -
4:45 - 4:47in the 70s and 80s in Canada
and in the United States. -
4:47 - 4:49They're almost forgotten nowadays,
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4:49 - 4:51but they were a big success.
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4:51 - 4:55Now, what researchers have shown,
time and time and again, -
4:55 - 4:58by comparing a test group
of poor people who receive free money, -
4:58 - 5:02and a similar control group,
so that they could see the effects -- -
5:02 - 5:06time and time again, they have shown
that free money results in -- -
5:06 - 5:10well, lower inequality,
lower poverty, obviously; -
5:10 - 5:16but it also results in
less infant mortality, -
5:16 - 5:21lower health care costs,
lower crime rates, -
5:21 - 5:23better school completion records,
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5:23 - 5:25less truancy, higher economic growth,
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5:25 - 5:27better emancipation rates,
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5:27 - 5:31and all kinds of other
positive social outcomes. -
5:31 - 5:34Time and time again,
researchers have shown -
5:34 - 5:36that free money may be
the most efficient, -
5:36 - 5:40the cheapest, and the most civilized way
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5:40 - 5:43to combat poverty.
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5:43 - 5:46Now, I'm not going to
be able to summarize -
5:46 - 5:48all the experiments that happened on it,
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5:48 - 5:50so I want to tell you
about just one experiment -
5:50 - 5:55that was done a few years ago
in the City of London. -
5:55 - 5:58Now, this was an experiment
with some homeless men. -
5:58 - 6:02To be exact, 13 homeless men
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6:02 - 6:05that lived on the streets of London.
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6:05 - 6:08They were "street veterans":
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6:08 - 6:11Some of them had been living
on the cold tiles of "square mile", -
6:11 - 6:13which is the financial district of London,
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6:13 - 6:15for more than 40 years.
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6:15 - 6:17And I have to mention,
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6:17 - 6:20their presence was far from cheap --
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6:20 - 6:23think of health care costs,
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6:23 - 6:25legal cost, policing costs --
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6:25 - 6:27they were costing
the British taxpayers -
6:27 - 6:31hundreds of thousands
of pounds every year. -
6:31 - 6:34So, everything had been
tried at that point -
6:34 - 6:36and it was time for something new.
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6:36 - 6:40In the spring of 2009,
a local charity decided: -
6:40 - 6:45Well, why not try free money instead?
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6:45 - 6:49So, each of the homeless men
received £3,000. -
6:49 - 6:50Cash.
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6:50 - 6:52No strings attached.
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6:53 - 6:55They were completely free to decide
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6:55 - 6:58whatever they wanted to do with the money.
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6:58 - 7:02The only question they had
to answer for themselves was: -
7:02 - 7:05What do you think is good for you?
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7:05 - 7:09Counseling services
were completely optional. -
7:09 - 7:11Now, of course, most of the aid workers,
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7:11 - 7:13they didn't have high expectations:
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7:13 - 7:15they thought that, well,
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7:15 - 7:17the men are probably going
to spend the money -
7:17 - 7:21on alcohol or drugs or gambling
or something like that. -
7:21 - 7:23But then, something amazing happened.
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7:23 - 7:25What happened in the first place was
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7:25 - 7:28that the men turned out
to be extremely frugal -
7:28 - 7:29with the money they received.
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7:29 - 7:31At the end of the first year
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7:31 - 7:34only £800 had been spent on average.
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7:34 - 7:36And what did they spend it on?
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7:36 - 7:39A phone or a passport
or a dictionary, -
7:39 - 7:41each had his own idea
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7:41 - 7:43of what would be best for him.
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7:43 - 7:47Moreover, a year later
the impossible had happened; -
7:47 - 7:507 out of 13 of the men
had a roof above their head. -
7:50 - 7:52Two more had applied for housing.
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7:52 - 7:56Some of the men took gardening classes;
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7:56 - 7:58another learned how to cook, for example.
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7:58 - 8:01They visited their children, again.
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8:01 - 8:04And all of the men
made plans for the future. -
8:04 - 8:09It sort of seemed as if
the cash had empowered them. -
8:09 - 8:13Now, I don't know if there's
a politician in the room, -
8:13 - 8:15but a politician would
probably ask at this point: -
8:15 - 8:18Well, this is a very interesting story,
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8:18 - 8:19but what did it cost?
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8:19 - 8:21What did the experiment cost?
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8:21 - 8:25Well, the answer is £50,000,
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8:25 - 8:28including the wages of the aid workers.
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8:28 - 8:33So, in addition to giving
at least seven individuals -
8:33 - 8:36another shot at life,
the project had saved money -
8:36 - 8:38by a factor of at least seven.
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8:38 - 8:41And this is a very
conservative estimate. -
8:41 - 8:46Even the liberal,
free market magazine, -
8:46 - 8:48The Economist,
concluded at that point: -
8:48 - 8:50The most effeicient way to spend
money on the homeless -
8:50 - 8:52might be just to give it to them.
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8:52 - 8:54(Laughter)
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8:54 - 8:57Experiments such as these, and
they've been done all around the world, -
8:57 - 9:01show us that we need to rethink
what poverty actually is. -
9:01 - 9:05Poverty is not a lack of character;
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9:05 - 9:08poverty is a lack of money!
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9:08 - 9:10Nothing more, nothing less.
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9:10 - 9:13So, it turns out that it's a great idea
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9:13 - 9:18just to give money to the poor
if you want to resolve that problem. -
9:20 - 9:21Ladies and gentlemen,
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9:21 - 9:24we are living through a time and age
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9:24 - 9:28in which our societies and economies
are changing faster than ever. -
9:28 - 9:30It's an age of automation;
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9:30 - 9:34the robots are coming for our jobs.
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9:34 - 9:37Now, this will bring, obviously,
great prosperity, -
9:37 - 9:40but it also means that
we will have to adjust. -
9:40 - 9:42If we do not adjust,
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9:42 - 9:45if we keep applying the
solutions of the 20th century -
9:45 - 9:48to the challenges of the 21st century,
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9:48 - 9:51then the middle class will crumble,
and inequality will soar. -
9:51 - 9:54And truly this is a dystopian future.
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9:54 - 9:57Nowadays, governments are obsessed
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9:57 - 9:59with pushing people into jobs,
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9:59 - 10:02even when there are no jobs.
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10:02 - 10:06It's like the great inventor
Buckminster Fuller once said: -
10:06 - 10:08So we have inspectors of inspectors,
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10:08 - 10:11and people making instruments
for inspectors to inspect inspectors. -
10:11 - 10:14The true business of people
should be to go back to school -
10:14 - 10:16and think about whatever
it was they were doing -
10:16 - 10:18before somebody told them
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10:18 - 10:20they had to earn a living.
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10:20 - 10:24I believe that the basic income
is a better alternative -
10:24 - 10:27to our current welfare mess.
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10:27 - 10:31But I have to admit, throughout history,
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10:31 - 10:34there have always been
three arguments against it, -
10:34 - 10:37three formidable objections.
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10:37 - 10:39The first goes something like this:
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10:39 - 10:42Oh, it's an interesting idea, but --
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10:42 - 10:46I've done some calculations
and it's too expensive. -
10:46 - 10:50Sorry, can't pay for it.
It's not going to work. -
10:50 - 10:51Now, this might have been true
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10:51 - 10:54in the times of Thomas Payne,
200 years ago, -
10:54 - 10:56when almost everyone,
almost everywhere, -
10:56 - 10:59was sick, poor, hungry and ugly.
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10:59 - 11:00(Laughter)
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11:00 - 11:03But it's not true anymore.
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11:03 - 11:07As a society, we are richer than ever!
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11:07 - 11:09I'd like to see the basic income
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11:09 - 11:11as a dividend of progress.
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11:11 - 11:13Because our forefathers worked so hard
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11:13 - 11:15to achieve our current
level of prosperity, -
11:15 - 11:17we can now afford to give everyone
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11:17 - 11:20a share of their accomplishments.
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11:20 - 11:22And remember,
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11:23 - 11:28eradicating poverty
is actually an investment. -
11:28 - 11:30An economist calculated
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11:30 - 11:33that it would cost about $175b
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11:33 - 11:37to eradicate poverty in United States.
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11:37 - 11:39That's quite a lot of money, right?
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11:39 - 11:43$175b each year --
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11:43 - 11:47But it's only a quarter
of the country's military budget. -
11:47 - 11:50So this is entirely possible,
it's entirely doable. -
11:50 - 11:53And after ten, or maybe twenty years,
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11:53 - 11:56it wll turn out that the investment
has paid for itself. -
11:56 - 11:59Because the government will save billions
in lower health care costs, -
11:59 - 12:01there will be less crime,
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12:01 - 12:05and there will be lots more
productive citizens -
12:05 - 12:07who will be able
to fulfill their dreams. -
12:07 - 12:10So, let's move onto
the second objection, -
12:10 - 12:12maybe that one's better.
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12:12 - 12:13The second objection is:
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12:13 - 12:16Ah, this is an interesting idea,
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12:16 - 12:17we might be able to pay for it,
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12:17 - 12:19but um --
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12:19 - 12:21when you give people free money,
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12:21 - 12:23they will stop working!
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12:23 - 12:27You know, it's human nature,
people are lazy, -
12:27 - 12:29nothing can be done about that.
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12:29 - 12:31The interesting thing, here, is that
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12:31 - 12:33if I asked each one of you, in this room:
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12:33 - 12:36Would you stop working when I'll give you,
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12:36 - 12:39you know, about 1000 € each month?
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12:39 - 12:42About 99% of you would say:
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12:42 - 12:48Of course not. I've got dreams,
I've got ambitions, -
12:48 - 12:51I'm not going to sit on the couch, no.
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12:51 - 12:53But if I asked
each and everyone of you, -
12:53 - 12:56What would other people do,
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12:56 - 12:58when they receive
1000 € each month? -
12:58 - 13:00I think about 99% of you would say:
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13:00 - 13:02Yeah, other people,
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13:02 - 13:04they'll probably stop working!
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13:04 - 13:06(Laughter)
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13:06 - 13:09You know, it's human nature,
they're lazy -- -
13:09 - 13:12If that's what you're thinking,
I've got some news for you. -
13:12 - 13:15The experiments that were
conducted all over the world, -
13:15 - 13:18and also common sense, actually tell us
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13:18 - 13:21that most people want
to contribute to society. -
13:21 - 13:25Most people want to make
something of their lives! -
13:25 - 13:27In fact some of the
experiments have shown -
13:27 - 13:29that poor people, especially poor people,
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13:29 - 13:33actually work more,
when you give them a free grant. -
13:33 - 13:35Because it gives them the opportunity
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13:35 - 13:38to invest in their lives,
or in their business, for example. -
13:40 - 13:42The third objection,
ladies and gentlemen, -
13:42 - 13:47might be the most difficult to overcome.
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13:47 - 13:48I hear people sometimes say:
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13:48 - 13:50"Well, this is a great idea.
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13:50 - 13:54We might be able to pay for it
and I won't stop working, -
13:54 - 13:56and maybe they won't too --
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13:56 - 14:00-- but er -- this is too big!
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14:00 - 14:05You know, politicians nowadays
they're too busy with themselves. -
14:05 - 14:08And it's never going to happen,
they're always shortsighted, -
14:08 - 14:10and this is just too big an idea.
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14:10 - 14:13I don't think it's going to happen."
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14:13 - 14:16Well, if that's what you're thinking,
I want to introduce you to this man. -
14:20 - 14:22You know him, right?
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14:22 - 14:24This is Richard Nixon.
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14:24 - 14:26The conservative president,
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14:26 - 14:28the corrupt president, from
the Watergate scandal? -
14:28 - 14:32Yes! It was this man
who almost implemented -
14:32 - 14:35a modest basic income
at the beginning of the 70s -
14:35 - 14:36in the United States.
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14:36 - 14:39It almost happened!
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14:39 - 14:43His proposal got through
the House of Representatives -
14:43 - 14:45and it hit the Senate floor
where doubts returned -
14:45 - 14:47because some more
progressive senators said: -
14:47 - 14:51Oh, this is a great idea,
but we want a larger basic income, -
14:51 - 14:53so we're going to reject this proposal,
and -- -
14:53 - 14:56well, we never heard of it again.
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14:56 - 15:00It's an almost forgotten episode
in the history of United States. -
15:00 - 15:03But it shows us
that of course it's possible. -
15:03 - 15:05Remember, once again:
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15:05 - 15:10Utopias have a tendency of coming true.
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15:10 - 15:11The end of slavery,
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15:11 - 15:14equal rights for men and women, democracy,
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15:14 - 15:18they were all regarded as
impossible Utopian ideals once. -
15:18 - 15:21But in history, there is
something called progress, -
15:21 - 15:25however slow and erratic it might be.
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15:25 - 15:29All we need is a little
more patience, sometimes. -
15:29 - 15:33All we need is a lot
more collective ambition. -
15:35 - 15:39Now, I understand that a short TED talk
is probably not enough to convince you -
15:39 - 15:41that free money for everyone
is going to be -
15:41 - 15:44the biggest idea of the 21st century.
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15:44 - 15:46So, I encourage you
to read more about it, -
15:46 - 15:48to look at the evidence for yourself,
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15:48 - 15:53and think: Isn't it time
to update my worldview? -
15:53 - 15:58As I said, our ideas often
lag behind the speed -
15:58 - 16:01at which our societies
and economies are changing. -
16:01 - 16:05The basic income may not be implemented
in the next 3 or 4 years, -
16:05 - 16:10but it may be implemented
in the next 30 or 40 years. -
16:10 - 16:12Ideas can and do change the world.
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16:12 - 16:15In fact, history is ruled by little else.
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16:15 - 16:19It's like the famous Irish poet,
Oscar Wilde, once said: -
16:19 - 16:24"Stronger than a thousand armies
is an idea whose time has come." -
16:24 - 16:27And I believe that in this century
the time has come -
16:27 - 16:29for free money for everyone.
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16:29 - 16:31Thank you very much.
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16:31 - 16:34(Applause)
- Title:
- Why we should give everyone a basic income | Rutger Bregman | TEDxMaastricht
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In September 2013 Bregman joined the online journalism platform "De Correspondent." His article on basic income was nominated for the European Press Prize. In September 2014 his newest book "Gratis geld voor iedereen" ("Free money for everyone") came out.
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