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Why we should give everyone a basic income | Rutger Bregman | TEDxMaastricht

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    Rutger Bregman
    Basic Income for everyone
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    Ladies and Gentlemen,
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    today I'd like to share
    a big idea with you.
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    In fact, I believe it could be
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    one of the biggest ideas
    of the 21st century.
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    It's an idea that
    could unite politicians
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    from the left to the right
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    in fixing our broken
    social security system.
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    It's an idea that could
    give dignity to millions
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    and accomplish what we should have
    accomplished long ago
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    especially in our rich
    and wealthy countries:
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    eradicating poverty.
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    But first,
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    I have to be honest with you:
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    it's actually not my idea.
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    Now, in fact it's
    the idea of this man,
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    Thomas Payne,
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    who sadly wasn't able
    to make it today
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    (Laughter)
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    because -- well,
    he died 200 years ago.
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    But it was also
    the idea of these guys:
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    some of history's greatest thinkers.
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    Now I can hear you think:
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    What kind of idea
    could unite men so different
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    such as the civil rights campaigner,
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    Martin Luther King, on the one hand,
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    and the free market
    economist Milton Friedman,
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    on the other hand?
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    What idea could
    unite thinkers so different
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    such as Thomas Payne,
    who thought that the government
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    is the solution to most of our problems,
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    and on the other hand,
    Friedrik von Hayek,
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    the Austrian economist,
    who said that, well,
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    the Government is in fact
    the problem, most of the time.
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    What is this idea, that goes
    against the spirit of our time,
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    right through
    the old political divisions
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    between the left and the right?
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    What is this great idea,
    this Utopian idea
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    that so many of
    history's greatest thinkers
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    have been dreaming
    about for centuries,
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    yet which has failed to come true,
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    so far?
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    Well, some people call it
    the "citizen's dividend";
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    other people call it
    the "basic income."
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    Now, I like to call it
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    "free money for everyone."
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    Now, that sounds good, right?
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    I know, it also sounds
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    like a Utopian fantasy,
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    something that will never come true,
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    especially not in our lifetime.
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    But I want to remind you beforehand:
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    Utopias have a tendency
    of coming true.
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    Just think of how
    the end of slavery,
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    equal rights for men and women,
    and democracy,
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    they were all regarded
    as impossible ideals, once.
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    But in history, there is
    something called progress.
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    So let's start with this
    simple, basic question:
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    What is the basic income?
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    Well, it is a monthly grant,
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    enough to pay for your basic needs:
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    food, shelter, education.
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    That's it.
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    Now, some of you might ask:
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    Don't we have this already?
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    Isn't there something
    called social security,
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    don't we have the welfare state?
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    Well, yes, but the basic income
    is something entirely different.
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    In the first place, it's universal,
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    so everyone would get it.
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    Whether you're a billionaire or a beggar,
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    whether you're a man or a woman,
    employed or unemployed,
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    the basic income is a right,
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    a right as a citizen of your country.
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    Moreover, it's also unconditional,
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    so you get it no matter what.
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    No one's going to tell you
    what you have to do with it;
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    no one's going to tell you
    what you have to do for it.
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    The basic income is not a favor,
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    but it's a right, just like, for example,
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    the freedom of speech is a right as well.
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    But most importantly,
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    in the past few decades,
    in the past 30 or 40 years,
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    it has become more than just an idea.
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    "Free money for everyone"
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    is more than just an idea nowadays,
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    it has become a proven idea.
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    As you can see on this map,
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    there have been experiments
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    -- this map is from 2012, by the way --
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    there have been experiments
    all over the world
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    and especially in the South,
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    from Mexico to Brazil,
    from South Africa to India,
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    researchers and governments
    have experimented
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    with giving people free money.
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    This map shows all the
    "cash transfer programs"
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    as they call them, that reach
    at least 5,000 individuals.
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    And there have also been
    very large-scale experiments
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    in the 70s and 80s in Canada
    and in the United States.
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    They're almost forgotten nowadays,
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    but they were a big success.
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    Now, what researchers have shown,
    time and time and again,
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    by comparing a test group
    of poor people who receive free money,
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    and a similar control group,
    so that they could see the effects --
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    time and time again, they have shown
    that free money results in --
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    well, lower inequality,
    lower poverty, obviously;
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    but it also results in
    less infant mortality,
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    lower health care costs,
    lower crime rates,
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    better school completion records,
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    less truancy, higher economic growth,
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    better emancipation rates,
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    and all kinds of other
    positive social outcomes.
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    Time and time again,
    researchers have shown
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    that free money may be
    the most efficient,
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    the cheapest, and the most civilized way
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    to combat poverty.
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    Now, I'm not going to
    be able to summarize
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    all the experiments that happened on it,
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    so I want to tell you
    about just one experiment
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    that was done a few years ago
    in the City of London.
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    Now, this was an experiment
    with some homeless men.
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    To be exact, 13 homeless men
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    that lived on the streets of London.
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    They were "street veterans":
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    Some of them had been living
    on the cold tiles of "square mile",
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    which is the financial district of London,
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    for more than 40 years.
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    And I have to mention,
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    their presence was far from cheap --
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    think of health care costs,
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    legal cost, policing costs --
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    they were costing
    the British taxpayers
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    hundreds of thousands
    of pounds every year.
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    So, everything had been
    tried at that point
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    and it was time for something new.
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    In the spring of 2009,
    a local charity decided:
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    Well, why not try free money instead?
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    So, each of the homeless men
    received £3,000.
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    Cash.
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    No strings attached.
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    They were completely free to decide
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    whatever they wanted to do with the money.
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    The only question they had
    to answer for themselves was:
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    What do you think is good for you?
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    Counseling services
    were completely optional.
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    Now, of course, most of the aid workers,
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    they didn't have high expectations:
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    they thought that, well,
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    the men are probably going
    to spend the money
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    on alcohol or drugs or gambling
    or something like that.
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    But then, something amazing happened.
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    What happened in the first place was
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    that the men turned out
    to be extremely frugal
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    with the money they received.
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    At the end of the first year
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    only £800 had been spent on average.
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    And what did they spend it on?
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    A phone or a passport
    or a dictionary,
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    each had his own idea
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    of what would be best for him.
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    Moreover, a year later
    the impossible had happened;
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    7 out of 13 of the men
    had a roof above their head.
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    Two more had applied for housing.
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    Some of the men took gardening classes;
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    another learned how to cook, for example.
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    They visited their children, again.
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    And all of the men
    made plans for the future.
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    It sort of seemed as if
    the cash had empowered them.
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    Now, I don't know if there's
    a politician in the room,
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    but a politician would
    probably ask at this point:
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    Well, this is a very interesting story,
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    but what did it cost?
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    What did the experiment cost?
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    Well, the answer is £50,000,
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    including the wages of the aid workers.
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    So, in addition to giving
    at least seven individuals
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    another shot at life,
    the project had saved money
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    by a factor of at least seven.
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    And this is a very
    conservative estimate.
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    Even the liberal,
    free market magazine,
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    The Economist,
    concluded at that point:
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    The most effeicient way to spend
    money on the homeless
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    might be just to give it to them.
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    (Laughter)
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    Experiments such as these, and
    they've been done all around the world,
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    show us that we need to rethink
    what poverty actually is.
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    Poverty is not a lack of character;
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    poverty is a lack of money!
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    Nothing more, nothing less.
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    So, it turns out that it's a great idea
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    just to give money to the poor
    if you want to resolve that problem.
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    Ladies and gentlemen,
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    we are living through a time and age
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    in which our societies and economies
    are changing faster than ever.
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    It's an age of automation;
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    the robots are coming for our jobs.
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    Now, this will bring, obviously,
    great prosperity,
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    but it also means that
    we will have to adjust.
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    If we do not adjust,
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    if we keep applying the
    solutions of the 20th century
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    to the challenges of the 21st century,
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    then the middle class will crumble,
    and inequality will soar.
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    And truly this is a dystopian future.
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    Nowadays, governments are obsessed
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    with pushing people into jobs,
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    even when there are no jobs.
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    It's like the great inventor
    Buckminster Fuller once said:
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    So we have inspectors of inspectors,
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    and people making instruments
    for inspectors to inspect inspectors.
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    The true business of people
    should be to go back to school
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    and think about whatever
    it was they were doing
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    before somebody told them
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    they had to earn a living.
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    I believe that the basic income
    is a better alternative
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    to our current welfare mess.
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    But I have to admit, throughout history,
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    there have always been
    three arguments against it,
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    three formidable objections.
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    The first goes something like this:
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    Oh, it's an interesting idea, but --
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    I've done some calculations
    and it's too expensive.
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    Sorry, can't pay for it.
    It's not going to work.
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    Now, this might have been true
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    in the times of Thomas Payne,
    200 years ago,
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    when almost everyone,
    almost everywhere,
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    was sick, poor, hungry and ugly.
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    (Laughter)
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    But it's not true anymore.
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    As a society, we are richer than ever!
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    I'd like to see the basic income
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    as a dividend of progress.
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    Because our forefathers worked so hard
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    to achieve our current
    level of prosperity,
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    we can now afford to give everyone
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    a share of their accomplishments.
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    And remember,
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    eradicating poverty
    is actually an investment.
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    An economist calculated
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    that it would cost about $175b
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    to eradicate poverty in United States.
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    That's quite a lot of money, right?
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    $175b each year --
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    But it's only a quarter
    of the country's military budget.
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    So this is entirely possible,
    it's entirely doable.
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    And after ten, or maybe twenty years,
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    it wll turn out that the investment
    has paid for itself.
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    Because the government will save billions
    in lower health care costs,
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    there will be less crime,
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    and there will be lots more
    productive citizens
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    who will be able
    to fulfill their dreams.
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    So, let's move onto
    the second objection,
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    maybe that one's better.
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    The second objection is:
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    Ah, this is an interesting idea,
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    we might be able to pay for it,
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    but um --
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    when you give people free money,
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    they will stop working!
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    You know, it's human nature,
    people are lazy,
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    nothing can be done about that.
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    The interesting thing, here, is that
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    if I asked each one of you, in this room:
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    Would you stop working when I'll give you,
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    you know, about 1000 € each month?
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    About 99% of you would say:
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    Of course not. I've got dreams,
    I've got ambitions,
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    I'm not going to sit on the couch, no.
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    But if I asked
    each and everyone of you,
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    What would other people do,
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    when they receive
    1000 € each month?
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    I think about 99% of you would say:
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    Yeah, other people,
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    they'll probably stop working!
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    (Laughter)
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    You know, it's human nature,
    they're lazy --
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    If that's what you're thinking,
    I've got some news for you.
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    The experiments that were
    conducted all over the world,
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    and also common sense, actually tell us
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    that most people want
    to contribute to society.
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    Most people want to make
    something of their lives!
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    In fact some of the
    experiments have shown
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    that poor people, especially poor people,
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    actually work more,
    when you give them a free grant.
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    Because it gives them the opportunity
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    to invest in their lives,
    or in their business, for example.
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    The third objection,
    ladies and gentlemen,
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    might be the most difficult to overcome.
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    I hear people sometimes say:
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    "Well, this is a great idea.
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    We might be able to pay for it
    and I won't stop working,
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    and maybe they won't too --
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    -- but er -- this is too big!
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    You know, politicians nowadays
    they're too busy with themselves.
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    And it's never going to happen,
    they're always shortsighted,
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    and this is just too big an idea.
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    I don't think it's going to happen."
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    Well, if that's what you're thinking,
    I want to introduce you to this man.
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    You know him, right?
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    This is Richard Nixon.
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    The conservative president,
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    the corrupt president, from
    the Watergate scandal?
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    Yes! It was this man
    who almost implemented
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    a modest basic income
    at the beginning of the 70s
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    in the United States.
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    It almost happened!
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    His proposal got through
    the House of Representatives
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    and it hit the Senate floor
    where doubts returned
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    because some more
    progressive senators said:
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    Oh, this is a great idea,
    but we want a larger basic income,
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    so we're going to reject this proposal,
    and --
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    well, we never heard of it again.
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    It's an almost forgotten episode
    in the history of United States.
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    But it shows us
    that of course it's possible.
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    Remember, once again:
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    Utopias have a tendency of coming true.
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    The end of slavery,
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    equal rights for men and women, democracy,
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    they were all regarded as
    impossible Utopian ideals once.
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    But in history, there is
    something called progress,
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    however slow and erratic it might be.
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    All we need is a little
    more patience, sometimes.
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    All we need is a lot
    more collective ambition.
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    Now, I understand that a short TED talk
    is probably not enough to convince you
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    that free money for everyone
    is going to be
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    the biggest idea of the 21st century.
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    So, I encourage you
    to read more about it,
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    to look at the evidence for yourself,
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    and think: Isn't it time
    to update my worldview?
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    As I said, our ideas often
    lag behind the speed
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    at which our societies
    and economies are changing.
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    The basic income may not be implemented
    in the next 3 or 4 years,
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    but it may be implemented
    in the next 30 or 40 years.
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    Ideas can and do change the world.
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    In fact, history is ruled by little else.
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    It's like the famous Irish poet,
    Oscar Wilde, once said:
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    "Stronger than a thousand armies
    is an idea whose time has come."
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    And I believe that in this century
    the time has come
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    for free money for everyone.
  • 16:29 - 16:31
    Thank you very much.
  • 16:31 - 16:34
    (Applause)
Title:
Why we should give everyone a basic income | Rutger Bregman | TEDxMaastricht
Description:

In September 2013 Bregman joined the online journalism platform "De Correspondent." His article on basic income was nominated for the European Press Prize. In September 2014 his newest book "Gratis geld voor iedereen" ("Free money for everyone") came out.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDxTalks
Duration:
16:47

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