DISCIPLES: The Cult of TB Joshua, Ep 2 - Unmasking Our Father - BBC Africa Eye documentary

Could you tell me a little bit

about the fear about speaking out?

It was so hard to come out because when I

Jesus, come on, help me.

I can't anymore.

You find yourself doing prostitution
You find yourself fornicating.

You find yourself doing every evil thing.

He created narratives about all of us.
Well, you know this come.

They've got a problem with men.
Promiscuous.

Take them.
Lever.

Lever.
Lever them.

In the church, her lot must be delivered.

Out.

I was a virgin, so I didn't understand
what this last, last thing was all about.

It was the worst decision
I've ever made going there.

I will never experience fear like it ever.

Everybody wanted to know how he got his
power, but the story was just like...

Vapour.

There's a wish doctor here.

You are not a pastor,
but you call yourself pastor.

You use evil power.

The world needs to be awakened
to the truth of who TB Joshua was.

My dad, he had fear He
had fear, constant fear.

He was very afraid that
someone would speak up.

Turn around and make him answer
to those things that he had done.

Come on.

Tb Joshua told me, personally,
every 2,000 years, God sends a saviour.

Christ is over.

That he is the next Listen in line now.

This one thing has been
damned by God Almighty.

I used to watch a really big American
evangelical television station.

He'd laugh, and he used
to tear them apart.

But he actually just really
wanted what they'd got.

He realised that this teleevangelism
was a way to reach the world.

Isn't that just amazing?
Look at that.

Okay, but now listen to me.

In a huge office.

Everything big, got little.

Disciples had to help set up
this thing called Emmanuel TV.

This
24 hour a day broadcast about Tibu Joshua,

who is unlike any other
pastor in the world.

Just by him walking into a building, these

evil spirits would start shaking about.

He is so powerful,
more powerful than Satan himself.

You devil, you devil, you devil.

Bring them out.

Bring them out.

When Emmanuel TV came out
in 2006, that was huge.

Millions of people tuned
in all over the world.

My name is Chloe.

You're welcome to the Arena
of Liberty in Jesus' name.

The live service had probably
50,000 people attend.

We thought that this was the thing
that would change the world.

Some people ended up stopping going

to their own churches that sit
home and watch Emmanuel TV.

Everybody wanted the privilege to go with,
to meet this big giant called TB Joshua.

I was 17 years old when I went
to the Synagogue Church of All Nations.

It was Emmanuel TV that hooked me in.

It felt I felt like,
I finally found my purpose in life.

The whole compound revolved around T.
B.

Joshua.

He is second in command to God.

We live in that environment

that everybody try to outdo one another

to make him happy.
T.

Joshua's room or apartment was right at
the top at the end of the church building.

B.

He doesn't have his own house
where he stays with his family.

No.

His wife was on a completely
different floor.

He lived there completely by himself.

We used to refer to it as Five Story
because it was the fifth floor.

It was very lavish
presidential set of rooms.

Daddy, as we used to call him,
he had young Nigerian boys that would run

around for him up in his
five-story bedroom.

They'd get anything he wanted.

They'd do his hair,
they'd wash his underpants.

We were called Five Story Brothers.

That is young guys like me that has
the opportunity to serve the prophet,

just literally serve him just
the way the maid serves the king.

People compare his Five Story Brothers be

his personal slave because
everything he needs, you must be there.

All is in my mind is, where is he now?

Has he eaten?

Has he taken his bath?

Is he showered already?

You have to be there in his privacy.

If I can use the word, even to the nudity,
you see everything.

When team Erosion needs to go

to the toilet,
two of us has to be there in the toilet.

He would remove his underwear
to his knee level.

Then we're pulling it down.

We don't allow him to bend down.

There was a lot of strange things
behind closed doors.

His underwears, his underwears.

You know he wears white?

Most times, he pours this honey.

He will pour it inside his pant,
inside his underwear.

He will pour it there.

When he pours those on there,
he rears the underwear.

And I was like, What's
the significance of this?

Why is he doing this?

There's a wish doctor here.

And her name is El Khartou Wizard.
Abalist.

I am the ultimate.

People were constantly suddenly
coming for deliverings for witchcraft.

What were you asked Abalist to do for you?

You went there and Abalist may
give you money to rob your private.

A true man of God.

All started when my mother and my father

die, then when they took
her to wish daughter.

I worship an idol.

What is this, your mommy water?

After those people had delivered,
they would stay at the prayer mountain.

They would lodge there
at the prayer mountain.

Hallelujah.

Hallelujah.

Now, today, we start the synagogue here.

Amen.

This is the prayer mountain,

the original site of the
Synagogue Church of All Nations.

Prayer mountain is a place full of water
that Timbi Joshua drens.

He has different islands on the lake

there, and each of them has different
prayer huts, prayer houses, small huts.

I don't think there's any
week that he doesn't go there.

That's where he stays.

He stays and does most of his work.

People think the prayer mountain is where

to go and pray, but there is more to that.

There is more to that.

The 16 years I spent there,

we are the prayer warrior,
which is the powerhouse of the ministry.

I'm able to be the leader.

It will give you different assignments.

There was one day, Titi Joshua
came to the mountain.

They caught one fish alive, very big.

So in my present, Tigo Joshua caught

his bear, caught part of the hair,
his private part.

He pulled those things
in the mouth of that fish.

He was to take it back
to the river and drop it.

That was how they start multiplying.

When they lay eggs,
they lay thousands of eggs.

It's secretive.

If we are talking about spiritual power,
either it's Satan or it's God.

Lose me love from all
relationships of the flesh.

Sexual immorality was a common thing
that he would always talk about.

You have flattening spirits.
Just man of God.

This spirit is like dog.

You are the one looking for men for sex.

It's true, man of God.

We were all supposed to be celibate.

We were taught that everything
sexual was bad.

It was sinful.
It was wrong.

In Emmanuel, we have something
to be excited about today.

Why are you...

A spirit of...
A what?

A what?

I believe that by my nature, I was unholy.

I was gay, and that I didn't want to be.

I had this huge battle going on in my
head, and I thought he could help me.

I see you as a high Lord.

He always painted and shamed women

for being high Lord
and having the spirit of last.

In the church,
high Lord must be delivered.

Every woman had lust.

Every female was struggling
from the spirit of lust.

That spirit of immorality, out.

He created narratives about all of us.

Oh, this one's come.

They've got a problem with men.

Promiscuous.

He would tell me,
Look at the way you are looking.

You are not even concentrating.

You are not doing this.

It's a spirit of lust.

You want to masturbate
Every time you are alone.

And I want to help you.

I can help you.

There is a lady, you are a prostitute.

It has become a professional
job for you, prostitute.

He got me to write down that I am
a prostitute from Namibia 400 times.

And then I signed on camera that it is

me, Jessica, signing,
I'm a prostitute from Namibia 400 times.

It is hodge.
Hodge.

Hodge.
Yes.

No man can satisfy you.
It's true, men of God.

It's true, men of God.

The repetition, lust in the morning,
afternoon, evening.

You were sleeping because lust,
anything you do, lust.

I started believing that maybe
Maybe I have it.

I was a virgin, so I didn't understand
what this last, last thing was all about.

We had this weird culture of we had

to phone him before we went to bed,
and there were phones all over the church,

and it was considered really,
really not cool.

It was a ritualistic thing,
like morning prayers or evening prayers.

Good night, good night, Daddy.

Good night, sir.

You had to do it.

You'd phone his bedroom on the intercom,

and it would ring, and ring, and ring,
and ring, and ring, and ring.

I'd be like, Hello, Daddy.

It's Rachel.
Good night, sir.

He'd be like, Okay, good night.

And he just put the phone down.

Just like, no interest.

My friends used to call them,

and they used to go up to his room
with their Bible and their notebook.

They'd go up and they'd come down,
they'd go up, they'd come down.

And I often used to think to myself,
Why doesn't he call me?

I need to try harder.

There is no way you will know

who Thibault Joshua is if
you don't live with him.

We happen to sleep in his bathroom.

We had to sleep on the floor.

The little space there
where we have his towels being hanged,

that's where we lie
on the floor on bare tiles.

At a particular time in the middle

of the night, he just asked us
to go to our room to go sleep.

He would put us in the room next door.

He would lock the door.

Next thing we hear from inside the room is
he turns on the TV set aloud.

Very, very loud.

Luce me love from all
relationships of the place.

I was curious Why?

Why is Daddy locking us outside?

I was curious.

So I had to peep under this door.

When I peeped under the door,
I saw a certain lady's foot there.

She knelt down close to the long chair.

Then I realised that something
was happening there.

Some activities was going on.

It's as if something
sexual was happening here.

I knew that the wife was not around.

His wife doesn't have access to his room.

He made us believe that his wife
is always sent to tempt him.

A lot of thoughts were
going through my mind.

It was like that he's trying
to cover up something.

I'd be climbing on my bunker bed,
exhausted Absolutely exhausted.

And you'd get a tap.
That is calling you.

That is calling you.

Oh, I want you to come up.

I want you to come and see me.

One night, they phoned and he was like,
You know, you did so well today.

He said, Okay, come up, bring your Bible,

and let us look at your
Bible notes with you.

This is early hours
of the morning, 3, 4, 5.

You were so knackered.

This is on 2 hours of sleep
from the night before.

The room It was like a sanctuary.

Carpet was so soft, really thick carpet.

It was luxurious.

A big bellowing curtains.

He got his shirt off and his shorts on.

Sitting down on his chaise long, he said,
Okay, can I read some of my notes?

He'd beckon me over and I would
kneel beside the chais longe.

He was like, How am I?
And how's things?

And he loves me very much, and
how God's going to superuse me.

You're so good at preaching.

Don't ever leave me.
Don't ever leave me.

No, no, no, Daddy.

No, I won't.

He told the lads that were in his
bathroom that they should sleep.

He stood up and he locked the doors,
and he switched the lights down.

He said to me, Oh, can
you take your pyjama bottoms off?

And I just was like a robot.

I just was like, Oh, yes, sir.

And like a parrot, like exactly what I did

for every other instruction
that he'd given me.

Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.

Like a freaking robot.
Yes, sir.

I've come the pyjama pants.

He would come towards me,
and then he'd wrap his leg

around the back of my legs
and lower me like a plank onto the carpet.

He lowered me on my back to the floor.

He started sticking his tongue in my ear.

It was this ear first,
and then he went into that ear.

And I remember lying there like a piece

of wood, I'm thinking,
what the What is he doing?

It's disgusting.

It's disgusting.

What?

And I totally froze.
I just panicked.

It went into complete panic.

He was grinding and sticking his fingers

and his tongue in my ear,
and I'm lying there.

And then within five minutes,

he's basically done his business
and masturbated on me, basically.

Gets up and says to me, Okay, you can go.

I was 17 years old.

I didn't realise what was happening to me.

I was a good little Christian girl.

I didn't know what it was.

It became so robotic.

I disconnected from my body.

I just became like a puppet.

Going up to his room in the middle

of the night, I always saw
young girls coming downstairs.

My mind would sometimes go,

I wonder if they're having the
type of time I'm having with him.

At first, it was like, remove your top,
and I would be uncomfortable with it.

And if I didn't do what he wanted,

then he would threaten me to the point
where eventually he would

assault me and then
blame me afterwards and say, You did this.

You did this.
Look at what you've done to me.

Look what you've done.

Each embarrassment you receive,
each insult shot you receive,

each prosecution you receive,

would draw you closer, closer to Jesus.

The first time that he made any sexual

move on me, he touched my breast and he
was hugging me and breathing heavily.

I went to to one of the disciples,
Does he touch you inappropriately?

She jumped and said, No.
He's my father.

Even if he touches me, even if he hugs me,
I know that he is my father.

You would confide in someone
before you know it.

Meeting, meeting, meeting.

Once you hear a bell for meeting,
everybody starts shaking.

Who knows what is going to happen now?

When we have the disciple meetings

at night for reporting,
you would just see people running.

So when you see people running,
when you see disciples running,

you just run and you follow
where they're running to.

You would just run.

Discipleship meetings They
filled me with a sense of doom.

He'd start the meeting and say, Okay,
who has a report?

I just opened the door,

and when the other woman was standing
there with this woman,

and I phoned my own guard and said,
I don't know what's going on.

I was thought by the alcohol woman,
this woman in the very dark place.

So I was very surprised.

We were obligated to go and report
and tell TB Joshua every single thing.

If you did the wrong thing,

there was punishment,
and that was served in different forms.

The sister reported me and said, Oh,

Jessica called me and told me
that you touched her inappropriately.

He stood up from his chair.

Do I do that to you?

Can I do that?

A man of God?

And she said, No, sir.
She's lying.

She's just lustful.

He hit me.

He slapped me.
He punched me.

He killed to me in the stomach.

All disciples go through this.

Even the most powerful people have to be

brought down because he is
at the very top all the time.

If there's a plan for you,

when you come to that meeting,
you will be able defend yourself.

Shut up.

Keep quiet.

What do you want to say?

Do you want to argue with Papa?

Do you want to argue with Daddy?

Man of God, please.

Oh God, please help me.

That's me speaking.

What are the things you're used to do?

I'm stubborn, I'm proud.

I need for Please, please,
please, everybody, please.

You are the only able to have
done me, but I've changed.

I've been laid flat on the floor.

My skirt was lifted up
and I was just naked.

It hits me with that horse whip.

He actually laid down on the floor.

He would use it.

Power, power, power, power, power,
power, power, power, You were blood.

He beat you with that mercy.
Why?

I'm in crisis, all I have.

Please help me, sir.

Many at times, I have been
punished with beatings.

You are at his mercy.

You're at his mercy.

I remember her being in a state
of emotional turmoil.

No one is ever in that top
position the whole time.

That's the cycle.

You're built up and broken down.

Look, don't show any
sympathy for this boy.

Tb Joshua liked to humiliate people.

He humiliates people so much.

One day, I called him and said,
Daddy, why are you so angry like this?

He laughed.

He said, I know what I'm doing.

It will put fear in the disciples.

He was really violent.

We don't speak about these things.

There was no safe place.

There was no friend.

There was nobody you could go to and say,
Oh my God, this happened.

I saw this.
He'd be terrified.

He made everybody your enemy and you,
everybody else's enemy.

I know what it is to be poor, and I also
know what it is to have more than enough.

We are school fees
from primary to university.

I'm ready.

Tb Joshua has double face.

The face on Emmanuel TV and the real face.

You are no more a poor lady again.

One million naira for you.

Wow.

My voice is so far, God.

When you finish university,
you want to have something to do.

Okay, don't worry.
We will make sure we get you established.

God had told him that he must show
other people the right way to live.

You started having massive events

for people that had got disabilities,
wheelchair-bound people.

He'd give them rice, he'd give them food.

There was this massive show of generosity.

We're going to put the first
10th up on this flat area.

We're going to put communities
inside, children, old people.

$10,000 from Pupperti Bidushua
and Emmanuel TV.

His shield was his message.

This mass outworking of charity
to cover who he really was.

Nothing is as strong as love.

Spoken from the heart, I love you.

It was very difficult to watch
this man preach every Sunday.

Topics about love and about mercy,

they felt very strange
coming from his lips.

I stayed myself in the mirror
a lot of the time.

Maybe I do look like him.
Maybe.

For as long as I can remember, I have
been raised as TB Joshua's daughter.

I knew the child,
Ajokey, right from birth.

She's his actual daughter,

his biological daughter,
with another woman outside of wedlock.

He didn't seem to like her very much.

She was labelled the black
sheep of the family.

I was in primary school.

I was made to move to the disciples room.

I didn't volunteer to be a disciple.

I was made to join.

A joker grew inside the synagogue
like an outcast.

I think he wanted to keep her a secret.

I don't think he wanted
anyone to know who she was.

The message about Ajahar was that she had

terrible evil spirits
that needed to be driven out.

There was a time in the disciples

meetings, he said that
people could beat her.

Anyone in the female
dormitory could just hit her.

And I saw people just walking in,
just slapping her as they walked past.

Ajoke, a little thing She did
something, you slept at two.

There was a particular
time that I was very tired.

I had slept a little bit too much.

So he started shouting at her
to get up, to get up, to get up.

And there was another disciple there

who basically took it and took it
to the shower

and whipped her with an electrical
cord and then turned the hot water on.

I put my head right on the hot water.

I was screaming at the top of my voice.

I just let the water run
in my head for a very long time.

We're talking about years and years

of abuse, consistent abuse,
abuse that wasn't ending.

He hated her, and he
punished her for being born.

Her existence was probably
the biggest threat to his reputation.

I couldn't even have an identity.

That pain cannot be put into words.

I felt like, you know what, maybe
I really don't deserve to be alive.

What's her fault?

What has that girl done?

It pains me.

She was still very young that time.

Can you imagine how heartless we were?

Things like that.

It's scary to talk about.

It's really shameful.

I witnessed that and I didn't do
anything to help Oh, my goodness.

I don't know what she
thought about the rest of us.

The disciples were
both brainwashed and enabled us.

Everybody was just acting
based on commands like zombies.

Nobody was questioning anything.

They were beyond fanatics.

Where does your conscience come?

How far can your conscience go without

some form of accountability,
without some form of truth?

How far?

I think what's really hard to understand,

even for myself,
is how you can have someone who's sitting

here with a sound mind now, narrating
events that happened that are so

atrocious, didn't do
anything to stop them.

Why didn't you, Ray,
stop what you know what was going on?

Why didn't you stop it?

It was a culture.

We become numb to it.

It was normal.

You've got people abusing who are abused.

He took people who were good, caring,

kind, lovely people,
and he turned them into monsters.

There was a time when Dibrusha called me

into to his office and asked me,
Do you think I'm a monster?

What Dibliashua said to me about what he

was doing to me was that he could see
into my future, that I was going to lead

a life of promiscuity and that he had
to do what he was doing for my salvation.

He was telling me that,
I'm your father and I'm delivering you.

We went into his room and I stood
there and he said, Off your clothes.

So I removed my clothes
and then he just pointed.

So I lie down and then He raped me.

He broke my virginity.

I was screaming and he was whispering

in my ear that you should
stop acting like a baby.

Better shut up.
You want to make noise?

You want people to hear?

I felt like There was a beast,
like this beast.

I was 17 years old.

I was underage.

When he come back from the service,
he kept forcing himself on me.

He assured me God was not upset.

The more I made him happy,
God will be happy with me.

He grabbed me and he helped me very close

to him, and he literally then pushed

me down to the bed and he got on me.

I was still so shocked.

I was still bleeding.

He spit on the floor and he held my hands

and he looked straight into my eyes
and said, I can see you are my child now.

Don't betray me.

You were absolutely trapped because you

were there for salvation, and he was
the only one who could give you salvation.

And I had told myself,

no one else will ever watch you,
and there is no home for you.

And I just knew.

I just...

You just tell yourself, this is my life.

I have no alternative.

Look, each time you'd be called.

Each time, they would say,
Daddy's calling you.

Hey, man.

The bottom line is you'd have to go there.

You would have to just put your
feelings aside and just go there.

Look at the screen of your
television right now.

Somebody who is asked me
to pregnant her this guy.

The boy that was helping me, he raped him.

And I'm reporting to you.
Rape.

Nobody rape her.
Nobody raped her.

Okay, she said, Tempt her.

That spirit of tempting.

You see, rape.

You hear her say she's fled.

So let's cast the spirit out of her.

Okay?

You He was a sexual predator.

He was a ritualist.

Tb Joshua asked me to find virgins

for him, to bring young
girls into disciple fold.

In the midnight,

this person will be called into his
bedroom so that he could disvirgin them.

When those girls come out,

he usually He take
all the bedsheets and everything.

He pack them and take them
to the prayer mountain.

It's very important for me
to speak to the world.

I am using it as a platform of confession.

What I was doing then was against God.

I remember one day,
TB Joshua, he called for me.

He allowed me on the gold.

We went so far.

There was a prayer I
had never seen before.

So in that room, it's our duty to make
sure that we own a certain instance there.

If he's going to enter there,
that place must be filled with smoke.

We do normally have our
meetings in the night.

He trusts me
with the assignment he's giving me.

It's just candles everywhere, pictures,

All the disciples' pictures,
we pour it on the floor.

His own picture is not there.

His wife's picture is not there.

It's only the disciples.

He wear a red garment, plain red.

The garment is long down to his ankle,
and he would hold a sword in his hand.

Those pictures, he will place
the sword directly on the face.

It will be pierced through
and it will be pinned down there.

They are in bondage,
spiritually and physically.

This is what you have done to people.

You just move around this prayer room,
and you move in an anticlockwise way.

Holding this sword, going around.
Oh, Lord, forgive us.

Oh, Lord, forgive us.
Oh, Lord, forgive us.

Have mercy on us.

Have mercy on us.

I've never seen this thing before.

Everything about his prayer
room is photos, people's photos.

And I can tell you,
they are mostly ladies.

What he did was all intentional.

He was doing all those sexual activities
for something spiritual.

Satan knows everything
that people cannot know.

Tb Joshua is not any man of God.

He's a man of evil.

There was a system in there
that he used to abuse these women.

He's the one that crafted
the building of his apartment.

He designed it.

The whole building was just
designed to keep secret.

Multiple doors,
multiple entrance trees and exits.

The staircase you can use to get
to his five story was like four.

I call a lady, probably wants to see you.

He will tell you the specific
staircase that this person should come.

He would always tell you which entrance
to take, which door to get into.

You can ask the ladies to come through
any of the door so people don't see them.

He would always ask you, When you come,
did anybody see you?

You'd be like, No, sir.

Then you would rape me again.

It was a process, a very nasty cycle.

We couldn't see it right under our nose.

He designed a system
for deceiving all of us disciples.

A lot of women were
being abused by this man.

I had no idea.

I thought I I was the only one.

I didn't know that that thing
had happened to anybody else.

They were all in the same system.

This is a place, a system,
where you have nobody to talk to.

And there was nothing I could do.

Where the five story builders are,
they are the ones covering him.

These are children of 16, 17 years.

He kept all of us in slavery.

Total, absolute slavery.

Almost every day,
TB Joshua have girls in his room.

If I'm going to count in a week, seeing
these things four to five times in a week.

Every week?
Yes, every week.

Rape became a normal terrifying thing
that you would do.

It's like you are
an animal being slaughtered.

He would be calling girls in,
one after the other.

I stayed there almost 14 years.

There were been thousands.
Watch your screen.

Watch your screen.

You are going to deliver a baby boy
in the 90 name of Chesa time.

We used to film women giving birth, life.

He's somebody who used to paint
a picture that he loves children.

But behind the closed doors,
It's a nightmare.

It's a nightmare.

I had three abortions at the synagogue.

And from speaking to other women,
I'm You're not the only one.

If any of us got pregnant, he said,
You cannot betray the men of God.

We have to do something about it.

We meant that he rapes,
he forces them into abortion.

I never had a choice whether I
could keep a potential child or not.

I felt like I didn't own my body.

You know it, you You skip your first

period, you skip your second period,
and you have to talk.

It would all done in secret.

You'd be taken by one of these
elder moms to this clinic of his.

I witnessed a lot of abortions.

Lots of abortions.

It can't be counted.

They started doing it
inside the synagogue.

There's a place they
call Medical Department.

We went out through the backdoor office.

We went downstairs.

There's an area that visitors
would never see.

You're given a concortion to drink,
you get sick,

or they put these metal pieces in your
vagina and they extract whatever,

and you don't know whether they're pulling
out your womb or something's going wrong.

She was squeezing my stomach and I
had to push all those things.

She was saying, Out, out, out.

Sometimes Things go wrong.

One of them almost died
inside the synagogue.

These were backdoor medical treatments
that I, we were going through.

It could have killed us.

I saw how they suffered.

I saw how they suffered.

There were times I would
go to the penthouse.

I would be looking over to the main road.

I would be crying.

I was crying.

I was crying for them.

Sometimes you'd find yourself singing

on stage at church, and people will think
you're crying because

the Holy spirit is there,
but in actual fact, you're dead inside.

The first time I met him,
it looked helpful.

It looked loving.

Not knowing that behind that
was a saddest, a psychopath.

And I wanted to be connected to God.

That's why I stayed there.

That's why I keep trying my very best.

The God I was introduced to is evil.

He's diabolic because this is
the same God that would sleep with us.

This is the same God
that would beat us up.

This is the same God
that would manipulate us.

You have no idea of what I went through.

Every

time I was beating up, every time I
was humiliated,

it just reminded me that there was
something wrong with that sister.

I saw a female type was
going off to his room.

They were away.
They were going away for hours.

I was hearing things,
Oh, this happened to me.

Oh, he tried sleeping Too
many people were saying the same thing.

Accounts, first time of people
who had experienced sexual abuse.

She got to know who he was,
and she could not manage it quietly.

She escalited it.

I couldn't take care anymore.

I walked directly into his
office and I went off.

I shouted at the top of my voice,
Why are you doing all of this?

Why are you hurting all of these women?

You're using this woman.

You're sleeping with this woman.

I had lost every out of fear for this man.

He was shocked.

He was beyond shocked,
and he couldn't hide it.

He tried to stare me down.
Why?

I was looking at his eyes.

He got scared up, claiming
innocence to the disciples.

When he's angry, it's like he can kill.

He was the first person
that started hitting, hitting her.

Then other people joined.

He was like, Can you imagine
what she was saying about me?

Even as much as they were hitting her,

beating her, she was still saying
the same thing she was saying.

If you are having an affair
with all these women here.

She said it plainly to him.

The disciples dragged
me out to the office.

I was put in a room totally isolated
from the rest of the church.

He would lock up in a room for months.

I'm not telling you a week, so months.

I I wonder how I lived through that time

because they were hitting
me with belts, chains.

I couldn't even
stand up for days after this meeting.

I couldn't take a shower.

He was trying so hard to stop
people from listening to me.

He just felt threatened by the fact
that I knew the things that was happening.

Ajoke was bold enough to confront him

in front of his disciples.

I see her as a hero.

To look at him and tell him who he is.

She was brave.

This child could see what we couldn't see

and wouldn't yield to the lies
and was punished for it.

He created an image of an untouchable
being, of a perfect being.

But I was looking through those things.

I was seeing a man that was very

vulnerable, that was
very afraid of the truth.

He
was very afraid that someone would speak

up, could turn around and make him
answer to those things that he had done.

Everything was a cake of gunpowder,
and it could have gone off in one moment.

The families were lied, too.

He bought the whole system.

How do you stand up to a man who has
got a list of presidents in his pocket?

Just continue to watch Emmanuel TV.

Tv Joshua preaches forgiveness.

He doesn't forgive.

They shot at the back of the record, What?

He sent them to kill me.

He tried to kill me.

Everywhere, I turned to post like war.