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Trope Talk: Detectives

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    You know, most of the time when I read books
    or watch shows I kinda can’t stop myself
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    from overthinking them. I think it’s just
    a side effect of the critical analysis stuff
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    plus approaching art and media from my weird
    pseudo-professional angle - I usually can’t
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    really engage with a story without trying
    to pick
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    it apart and see how it works. You know, like,
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    I’ll… listen for how an actor’s doing
    their performance or clock what trope we’re
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    doing and judge the plot from there, stuff
    like that.
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    The one genre that breaks this rule for me,
    funnily enough, is mysteries. The one story
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    format the audience is supposed to critically
    engage with - I don’t. More accurately I
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    can’t. It might just be that I’m really
    bad at noticing stuff in general so I skim
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    over the sneaky clues, it might be that I’m
    really bad with names so I can’t keep the
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    suspects straight anyway. But honestly, even
    the really well-written mysteries that differentiate
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    the characters and give the audience enough
    clues to theoretically crack the case don’t
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    grab me - I have a higher success rate just
    guessing
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    from the tropes. Like if it’s an Agatha
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    Christie number, even odds the killer’s
    gonna be
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    the most eligible bachelor in the cast. I’ll
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    still read ‘em and enjoy ‘em, but most
    of the time the ending will totally blindside
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    me. I’m not good at putting the pieces together
    for myself.
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    Which is why I love and appreciate the character
    archetype central and foundational to the
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    mystery format - the detective. The one character
    tasked with putting all the pieces together
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    and revealing to the audience what the actual
    plot is. Without the detective, people like
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    me - the watsons of the world - wouldn’t
    get anything out of mystery stories.
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    Now detectives aren’t exclusively found
    in mystery
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    stories, but they are pretty inextricably
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    linked with the genre. Detectives investigate
    situations and solve puzzles - mysteries are
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    centered on the process of solving that puzzle,
    but mysteries and mystery-adjacent plots are
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    present in stories of all stripes, which means
    the detective archetype can be organically
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    integrated into almost any genre and narrative
    structure. If there’s a puzzle of any kind
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    happening in the plot, you can have a detective
    in the plot too.
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    Now “detective” is a job and a narrative
    role, not a character type, so theoretically
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    any character archetype can fill the role
    of a detective - but there are some majorly
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    popular subtypes that are essentially stock
    characters. The “Hard-Boiled Noir
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    Detective” type is typically a tortured
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    alcoholic or general addict with a constantly
    running inner monologue, a jaded and world-weary
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    perspective on life and a disproportionate
    number of morally questionable dames slinking
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    into their office for shenanigans - which
    is funny, because while this archetype is
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    very well-known, classic noir detectives have
    almost nothing in common with the tropes they
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    spawned. Sam Spade, the detective in the Maltese
    Falcon, the most iconic noir ever - has almost
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    no personality, no tragic or tortured tendencies,
    and he doesn’t even react to the death of
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    his
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    partner with much more than mild frustration.
    The Hardboiled Noir Detective archetype has
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    more in common with Dick Tracy than any proper
    noir protagonist. Then there’s the Gentleman
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    Detective, almost the polar opposite of the
    Hardboiled Detective, a classy and frequently
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    aristocratic adventurer type, unilaterally
    well-educated and almost always British, frequently
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    butting heads with a bumbling police department
    coincidentally full of lower-class people.
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    Sherlock Holmes, the most popular detective
    ever written, kinda spawned off a whole set
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    of Sherlockalikes - all eccentric, brilliant,
    usually mostly focused on a forensic investigative
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    approach, and generally accompanied by a long-suffering
    guy friend who narrates the actual adventures.
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    That third-person narration angle isn’t
    a Holmes exclusive
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    - in fact, it’s one of only a few ways to
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    present a mystery to an audience.
    See, the problem with a mystery is the audience
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    isn’t really allowed to know everything
    that’s
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    happening in the plot until the end. There
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    always has to be something hidden for the
    reveal. This means the audience can’t have
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    a third-person omniscient perspective but
    they also usually can’t have a full first-person
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    perspective on the detective, because almost
    all mysteries have a denouement at the end
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    where the big twist is revealed and everything
    falls into place. This denouement starts when
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    the detective reveals what’s going on, not
    when the detective figures out what’s going
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    on, so if the audience is already in the detective's
    head, we get that information too early. Some
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    stories will kinda fudge this by giving us
    the
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    detective’s perspective and having them
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    think stuff like “of course! that must be
    it! everything makes sense now!” and then
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    reveal the actual information they figured
    out during the denouement
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    proper. Failing that, most detective stories
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    will take a third person perspective, either
    from a less-than-omniscient vague third-person
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    narrator or from the perspective of another
    character who isn’t the detective and serves
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    as an audience surrogate.
    This isn’t a hard-and-fast rule, though.
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    There’s kind of a gradient here that sort
    of determines what kind of story - and what
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    kind of detective - we’re going to get.
    On the high end of the scale, some mysteries
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    show the audience almost everything. This
    is pretty rare, and it’s arguable that stories
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    of this type aren’t exactly mysteries at
    all. Probably the most iconic example of this
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    format is Columbo,
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    a very popular detective show from the 70s
    where every episode begins with a full, comprehensive
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    view of the murder. We know who did it, how
    they did it, how they covered it up and usually
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    even why they did it. The “mystery” element
    is not who did the crime, but how is Lieutenant
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    Columbo going to catch them. In true mystery
    form the episodes all have an ending reveal
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    of various kinds, but they’re usually revealing
    something Columbo did or discovered offscreen
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    - the twist isn’t in the crime, but in the
    solving of the crime. This is also not uncommon
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    in stories where the detective character is
    technically the antagonist and the protagonist
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    whose POV we’re following is the actual
    criminal they’re trying to catch - these
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    stories will often turn into battles of wits
    where
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    the audience has more knowledge than any of
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    the individual characters. Even some Sherlock
    Holmes stories technically fall into this
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    category - there’s no mystery in A Scandal
    In Bohemia, the surprise reveal at the end
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    is that Irene Adler fully saw through Sherlock
    Holmes’s sneaky disguise and totally outmaneuvered
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    him to leave the country with her new husband
    and the photo he wanted.
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    It’s more common for a mystery to give the
    audience something like 70-80% of the relevant
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    information. We typically don’t know who
    did it and we don’t necessarily know the
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    motive - so in order to keep those vague during
    the investigative process,
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    the suspect’s character backstories will
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    usually be somewhat muddled or obscured, since
    otherwise it’d be too easy to eliminate
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    people and narrow it down.
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    These mysteries will usually give us something
    of the method - like if someone was poisoned,
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    a forensic report will say what poison it
    was - and a large pool of suspects to identify
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    the criminal from. The reveal of the criminal
    almost always involves a reveal of some hitherto-unknown
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    element of their backstory or characterization
    that the detective has worked out without
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    the audience’s knowledge. In these stories,
    the detective character is usually digging
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    up clues about the crime to piece together
    an empty profile of who the criminal is, and
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    then finding out who in the cast fits that
    profile. How they do that depends on the individual
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    detective and their personality.
    But before we get into that, I wanna touch
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    on
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    the last category - because some mysteries
    give the
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    audience very little information. And this
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    is… usually bad. Like, actually bad writing,
    and I don’t say that lightly. Hiding too
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    much information from the audience can be
    seen as a sign of bad faith on the part of
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    the author. If the audience couldn’t reasonably
    guess the solution from the information given,
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    it’s a violation of mystery convention.
    For instance, if the killer is a hitherto-unmentioned
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    character who just happened to be in the area,
    that’s completely plausible and it might
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    even make more sense
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    in context than any of the main cast doing
    it, but it’s not a fair conclusion
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    to a mystery that’s supposed to be fair
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    to the audience. All these things
    serve to undercut the integrity of the mystery
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    plot.
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    These stories feel worse for the audience
    to engage with. They also sometimes don’t
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    make much sense in hindsight, since without
    enough information in the story to piece it
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    together, it might not actually hold together.
    Writing a mystery is hard - you usually have
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    to do it backwards from the way it’s presented
    in the plot, starting from the crime and working
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    through what clues and hints that crime would
    leave, rather than starting from the mystery
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    and figuring out who’d make the best criminal
    as you go. If the writer sets up a mystery
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    without
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    actually knowing the solution beforehand,
    the story’s
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    not going to hold together as well. And if
    the writer DOES know the mystery going into
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    it but drops, like, tiny tiny clues that don't
    actually combine to form the bigger picture,
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    that kind of has the same problem where the
    audience can't really engage with the mystery
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    because they don't have enough information.
    This brushes
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    up against the same problem I talked about
    in the plot twists video - twists for the
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    sake of shocking and surprising your audience
    are good if you, the writer, like feeling
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    smart, but bad if you, the writer, want your
    audience to actually critically engage with
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    your work. The audience needs to be able to
    follow along, and since the audience can’t
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    know
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    more than the author, at the bare minimum,
    the author needs to know the solution before
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    they start constructing the clues what audience
    gets. And ideally they also need to give the
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    audience enough clues that they could theoretically
    extrapolate the actual solution in kind of
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    the same way the detective is theoretically
    supposed to.
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    In the
    ideal mystery format, the audience is only
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    missing
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    one key piece of information by the end of
    the story, so when the detective does the
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    reveal of that one key piece it makes everything
    else fall into place. But frankly it’s easier
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    to write a mystery where the crime leaves
    almost no clues and the detective figures
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    out the solution by……… knowing what
    the author needs them to know and being right
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    because the author said they were. That way
    there’s
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    no chance of the audience figuring it out
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    before your detective does and thus undercutting
    your detective's incredible super geniusness.
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    For instance,
    while Original Sherlock Holmes definitely
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    had some pretty outrageous deductive leaps,
    extrapolating whole character backstories
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    from ink stains and muddy boots, some of the
    adaptions take this a step further. Like when
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    BBC’s Sherlock adapted A Scandal in Bohemia
    into A Scandal in Belgravia, it added in this
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    little background mystery because the closest
    thing the main plot of that episode has to
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    a mystery is what is Irene Adler’s Phone
    Password, which isn’t… you know… interesting.
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    And it’s the first half of Sherlock’s
    name because she’s in love with him now,
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    and that’s the kind of basic-ass romantic
    subplot nonsense the audience could see coming
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    a mile away, so that doesn't really scratch
    the "my detective needs to be smarter than
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    the audience" itch. But the mystery sideplot
    centers
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    on the unexplained death of a tourist by blunt
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    force trauma to the back of the head with
    no apparent weapon and no sign of the killer
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    in the middle of an empty field. Sherlock
    brushes this off immediately, claiming that
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    he’s figured out the answer just from the
    position of a car that backfired relative
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    to the tourist and from the fact that the
    tourist was killed by a blow to the back of
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    the head. This is the last we really hear
    of it for a while until Adler
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    reveals to Sherlock that she has also solved
    it, and explains that the tourist was killed
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    accidentally by his own boomerang. Does this
    make sense from the information given? K-uh…
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    …kinda.
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    It theoretically fits the lack of any killer
    or murder weapon, since the boomerang flew
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    merrily away after clocking the dude, although
    it is a little questionable if the boomerang
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    could've done that kind of killing impact
    and then flown like a hundred feet away and
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    landed in the nearby creek, but that's okay.
    Is that
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    something the audience could’ve been expected
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    to guess from “the position of the car relative
    to the hiker at the time of the backfire”
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    and “a single blow to the back of the head”?
    Absolutely the f*ck not, come on. It’d be
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    just as valid to assume (and probably easier
    to believe) that he got hit by a very
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    small meteor. What were the odds? I dunno!
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    This mystery isn't fun to solve or see solved
    because the audience doesn't even get a chance
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    to think about it.
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    When a mystery gives the audience too much
    information, there’s not much of a mystery,
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    since there’s nothing to figure out - but
    if a mystery gives the audience too little
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    to go on, it’s not gonna keep them guessing
    - it’s going to lose their engagement. It’s
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    like, you need to give them enough pieces
    of the puzzle that they can guess what the
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    final picture is gonna look like - not all
    of them, or they’d know for sure, and not
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    just a few edge pieces or the monochrome sky
    background, because that’s not interesting
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    for the audience to engage with. At its worst
    it actively discourages the audience from
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    trying to solve the mystery. It’s a tricky
    balance to strike.
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    But at the heart of the mystery story is the
    detective. As the character at the center
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    of unraveling the mystery, or, more broadly,
    revealing the plot, the detective is, in some
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    ways, the center of the mystery and the narrative
    overall. And how they navigate that mystery
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    depends a lot on their individual character.
    The first place we tend to look to understand
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    a character is their character
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    motive. Most characters have a clear reason
    for doing what they do - but that’s not
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    always true for detectives. While some are
    motivated by a general goodness or a sense
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    of duty or a general intellectual curiosity,
    some detectives have next to no personal investment
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    in solving crimes or mysteries - it’s just
    their job. The more jaded ones might even
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    complain
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    about it. Ironically, for a detective, motive
    is one of the least important facets of their
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    character.
    Instead, there are three important aspects
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    of the detective’s character, and they mirror
    the narrative structure of the mystery. First,
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    there’s their investigative method. How
    a detective gathers clues and information
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    depends almost entirely on their character,
    personality and skillset. For instance, Sherlock
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    Holmes takes a forensic focus, observing and
    gathering trace physical evidence to paint
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    a picture of the crime. Then he often does
    more on-the-scene investigating, frequently
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    in increasingly ridiculous disguises to gather
    information without putting people on-edge.
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    In contrast, we get detective characters like
    Miss Marple, who’s a purposeful trope subversion
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    - she looks like a totally different stock
    character, a pleasant but slightly vague gossipy
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    old lady who also happens to have an encyclopedic
    understanding of the human psyche, and solves
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    the crimes she investigates through nothing
    but psychological profiling and her general
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    understanding of how people work, relying
    on other people to do the actual clue-gathering
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    legwork. In a similar vein, Agatha Christie’s
    other detective hero, Hercule Poirot, also
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    focuses more on the psychological angle, though
    he does more in-person investigating and clue-gathering.
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    Instead of broad psychological profiles, Poirot
    focuses more on understanding the motive behind
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    the crime and deducing the criminal from there.
    Columbo is another deliberate subversion - he’s
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    a proper police detective, but he comes across
    as a befuddled and disorganized dude, dresses
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    pretty sloppily and drives a car so old he’s
    frequently asked if he’s undercover. He
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    tends to do
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    a first pass spotting physical evidence
    the forensic guys don’t always catch cuz
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    they don't realize what they're looking for,
    but
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    the bulk of his investigative method relies
    on interviewing slash pestering the killer
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    about the problems he’s noticed in their
    story in such a good-natured and innocent
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    way that they get so rattled they end up
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    incidentally revealing the truth. Other detectives
    have other methods - the grittier, more hard-boiled
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    ones will sometimes threaten or even torture
    people for information, the more gentlemanly
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    ones usually rely on their book-learning and
    scientific knowledge to piece things together,
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    etc etc. Since this clue-gathering usually
    takes up the bulk of the mystery in one way
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    or another, this is the side of the detective
    that usually reveals the most about their
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    fundamental character.
    The second aspect of the detective’s character
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    is how they put it all together. This is much
    subtler than the clue-gathering because most
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    of the time we don’t actually see how this
    works - it’s an internal process wherein
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    the detective figures out what exactly has
    been going on, and if the audience gets too
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    clear a look at it, they’re gonna find out
    the big reveal too early. But even if it’s
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    largely invisible, it’s still a fundamental
    facet of the detective’s character. Maybe
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    they put things together in sudden bursts
    of clarity and inspiration and run off without
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    explaining anything first, maybe they take
    careful and methodical notes and collect the
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    dots more slowly, maybe they chase down a
    hunch or two before they hit on the right
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    angle. If the audience has a more omniscient
    perspective and already knows what the detective
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    has to figure out, we’ll sometimes see the
    detective putting the pieces together mostly
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    for the audience’s benefit - spotting a
    clue we’ve already seen, noticing a discrepancy
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    we’ve already realized doesn’t work, looking
    befuddled for a moment before silently realizing
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    something, or (in contrast) calmly and immediately
    figuring out the information the criminal
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    has tried very very hard to hide and explaining
    how they came to that conclusion so we, the
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    audience, know
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    they weren’t cheating - there’s all sorts
    of ways to play it depending on the detective’s
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    character.
    And finally, the third aspect of the detective’s
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    character is how they handle the big reveal.
    When they finally put the pieces together
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    and lay it all out for the audience so we
    get the full story for the first time, how
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    the detective handles that says a lot about
    them. Some are very flamboyant and bombastic,
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    hitting on the right answer with a big speech
    and a room full of awed listeners and one
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    not-so-secret criminal in the throes of a
    third-act breakdown. Some are the complete
  • 13:04 - 13:08
    opposite, entirely subdued and maybe even
    sad at the whole tragic picture. Some might
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    be businesslike or methodical, with only the
    barest hint of an emotional response peeking
  • 13:11 - 13:15
    through. Sometimes there’s no triumph and
    no victory - this is more common with the
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    hardboiled detectives, who tend to be broadly
    pretty jaded and depressing even on their
  • 13:19 - 13:22
    best day, but you can also get this with the
    more emotionally sensitive detectives when
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    a particularly depressing case rolls around
    - like if the criminal was a victim of circumstance
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    or a lovable innocent bystander got hurt or
    the situation is generally kinda fucked. Some
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    detectives will, in rare circumstances, actually
    let the criminal off the hook, which can say
  • 13:33 - 13:36
    a lot about the detective and how much they
    might be willing to bend the rules in rare
  • 13:36 - 13:39
    circumstances.
    But that said, the greatest asset of the detective
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    character is also their greatest narrative
    weakness - they’re inextricable from the
  • 13:42 - 13:47
    context of the mystery narrative. Some detectives
    do have rich, personal lives on the side - for
  • 13:47 - 13:50
    instance, Dorothy L. Sayers’s detective
    character Lord Peter Wimsey has a rich inner
  • 13:50 - 13:55
    life and eventually makes the slow shift from
    Gentleman Playboy Detective to Love Interest
  • 13:55 - 13:58
    For The Author Self-Insert - it’s
    really good, I promise, it's just so funny
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    to me that
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    that’s very obviously what happened. But
    most detectives are kind of nonentities outside
  • 14:02 - 14:06
    the context of the case. Sherlock Holmes is
    ferociously bored whenever he’s not on a
  • 14:06 - 14:10
    case and frequently self-medicates with technically
    legal drugs, and that’s almost become narrative
  • 14:10 - 14:14
    tradition with the grittier detectives, who
    will often be addicts struggling with current
  • 14:14 - 14:17
    or former dependencies with very depressing
    non-lives outside of work. Sherlock Holmes
  • 14:17 - 14:20
    and his various
    Holmesalikes also usually have next to no
  • 14:20 - 14:23
    social life or friends, and they’re often
    framed as being consumed by their work and
  • 14:23 - 14:26
    the thrill of the case. That’s not to say
    it’s impossible to write a detective character
  • 14:26 - 14:30
    with more to their life than just the mystery
    - but it’s really not necessary most of
  • 14:30 - 14:33
    the time, so a lot of writers avoid it, since
    the only parts of the detective’s character
  • 14:33 - 14:37
    that come up during the mystery-solving process
    are the parts that tie into their role as
  • 14:37 - 14:40
    detective, not the rest of their life. Circling
    back to Columbo again, we know that he’s
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    got
  • 14:41 - 14:44
    a life, and a pretty good one by all estimates.
    From his various charming quirks and anecdotes
  • 14:44 - 14:48
    we know that he’s got a dog he never names,
    a loving wife and a massive nebulous extended
  • 14:48 - 14:52
    family he’s on good terms with - but, for
    instance, we never learn his first
  • 14:52 - 14:56
    name, and it's a running gag that his wife
    never appears onscreen. He has a life outside
  • 14:56 - 14:59
    of work that we
    catch blurry glimpses of, but it never matters
  • 14:59 - 15:02
    to the story, so glimpses are all we get.
    You know, it’s funny, when I, uh, originally
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    sat down to write this script I was trying
    to focus entirely on detectives and not go
  • 15:06 - 15:09
    off on mysteries too much.
    But it wasn’t until I was halfway through
  • 15:09 - 15:10
    that
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    I realized you really can’t separate them.
    The detective is fundamental to the mystery
  • 15:13 - 15:17
    and the mystery is fundamental to the detective
    - even if the audience perspective changes,
  • 15:17 - 15:21
    that mutual structure stays constant. The
    nature of the detective is to engage with
  • 15:21 - 15:24
    the mystery; they can have basically any character
    outside of that, but how they engage with
  • 15:24 - 15:27
    the mystery is really what defines them as
    a detective.
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Title:
Trope Talk: Detectives
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Video Language:
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