A new perspective for treating psychosis: Danielle Bergeron at TEDxUdeM
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0:24 - 0:28I'm going to talk to you about treating psychosis with psychoanalysis.
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0:28 - 0:37In 1982, we opened the Center for psychoanalytic treatment of young adult psychotics in Quebec,
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0:37 - 0:45which is referred to by its street address, "388", to keep the anonymity of the Center.
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0:45 - 0:50What is psychosis?
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0:50 - 0:55Also known as schizophrenia, psychosis is a severe mental illness
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0:55 - 0:58that can have devastating effects.
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0:58 - 1:05Symptoms include delusions, hearing voices, unbearable anguish;
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1:05 - 1:11Patients will also be mistrusting, or closed off in an imaginary world.
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1:11 - 1:16They will suffer from severe, sometimes extreme psychological distress,
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1:16 - 1:24will cut themselves off from other people, and live in solitude.
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1:24 - 1:30In the early 1980s, psychiatric science was at an impasse with treating psychotics.
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1:30 - 1:36Treatment at the time consisted of medication and hospitalization.
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1:36 - 1:40But medication couldn't prevent relapses;
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1:40 - 1:49so patients would be re-hospitalized more frequently and for longer periods of time.
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1:49 - 1:53As result, symptoms became chronic.
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1:53 - 1:57This was known as the "Revolving door syndrome",
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1:57 - 2:01whereby patients spent more and more time at the hospital,
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2:01 - 2:05were increasingly marginalized,
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2:05 - 2:11and placed in health care facilities, often for life.
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2:11 - 2:18Today, in 2012, not much has changed.
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2:18 - 2:20Nevertheless, there has been an important one:
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2:20 - 2:24the chemical dimension of treatment has been strengthened.
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2:24 - 2:32According to psychiatric biology, psychosis is a brain illness
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2:32 - 2:38So the psychiatrist, who is also a doctor,
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2:38 - 2:46will treat the sick brain before taking care of the person in distress.
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2:46 - 2:53Thoguh it is well known that medication today can alleviate symptoms,
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2:53 - 3:00they still can cannot prevent relapses from happening.
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3:00 - 3:04In 1980, when the 388 was first opened,
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3:04 - 3:11psychotic patients were also at an impasse with traditional psychiatric medicine.
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3:11 - 3:13They felt ignored,
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3:13 - 3:15they were afraid of speaking up,
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3:15 - 3:20afraid of talking about what they were going through.
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3:20 - 3:25When they did talk, they were told they were insane, delirious
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3:25 - 3:30that what they said wasn't real and they should forget the imaginary voices.
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3:30 - 3:32"Ignore the voices".
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3:32 - 3:36Then patients were given more medication and kept at the hospital for longer
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3:36 - 3:43until they eventually became quiet, and removed from others.
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3:43 - 3:46One of the patients talks about this impasse.
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3:46 - 3:52"I lost my friends... I wasn't feeling well.
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3:52 - 3:56I was going crazy, I could hear voices,
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3:56 - 4:01and I always carried a knife with me.
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4:01 - 4:05I couldn't take it anymore... I wanted to end my own life.
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4:05 - 4:07I went to see a psychiatrist
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4:07 - 4:10but he didn't ask me what was wrong-- I didn't get a chance to talk.
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4:10 - 4:14I asked for some psychotherapy, but he said it really wasn't for me.
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4:14 - 4:20I started taking pills, and then the medication stopped having an effect on me
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4:20 - 4:26or on the voices; and on top of that, I was gaining weight.
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4:26 - 4:31It went on like this for years, until the doctors found a miracle medicine.
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4:31 - 4:36I felt better for 6 months, even got a job...
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4:36 - 4:40...and then I had a major psychotic attack at work
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4:40 - 4:44-- even though I had been taking my medication.
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4:44 - 4:47I called my psychiatrist and told him that my medication wasn't working;
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4:47 - 4:50all he did was increase my dosage.
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4:50 - 4:54I felt like my life was over.
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4:54 - 4:58I had no purpose, I fell into a deep depression,
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4:58 - 5:02I wasn't doing anything anymore, not even speaking."
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5:02 - 5:10Another patient, Mr. F, talks about his isolation:
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5:10 - 5:12"I feel gentleness,
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5:12 - 5:14I feel sadness,
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5:14 - 5:16and I am alone.
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5:16 - 5:21Life is like a hard lump stuck in my throat."
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5:21 - 5:2730 years ago, GIFRIC psychoanalysts and psychiatrists
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5:27 - 5:33were already trying to find alternative ways of treating psychotics.
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5:33 - 5:39They wanted to give a future to those psychiatry had left out in the cold
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5:39 - 5:43by offering them a real and dynamic treatment
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5:43 - 5:46in which they would no longer be passive spectators of their own treatment,
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5:46 - 5:52as they had been in traditional psychiatry.
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5:52 - 6:00GIFRIC psychoanalysts wanted to offer an alternative to treatment and hospitalization,
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6:00 - 6:03to offer a choice of treatment.
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6:03 - 6:06The alternative was founded on 3 A's:
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6:06 - 6:09(A)nother place, (A)nother way, (A)longside
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6:09 - 6:11I'll explain:
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6:11 - 6:141. To find another place in the city, other than psychiatric hospitals,
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6:14 - 6:17and bring psychotics together in their own space
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6:17 - 6:21as a way of countering their marginalization in society.
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6:21 - 6:252. To find a different kind of treatment, using psychoanalysis:
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6:25 - 6:30allowing us to hear and understand what psychotic patients have to say,
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6:30 - 6:35and encourage patients to speak about that lump in their throat
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6:35 - 6:39so that they can get things off their chest.
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6:39 - 6:423. To treat alongside psychotic patients,
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6:42 - 6:47as a partner and main actor of their treatment in their treatment team;
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6:47 - 6:53to help patients fulfill their dream of being in control of their future,
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6:53 - 6:55of changing their own lives,
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6:55 - 7:01and to claim the spot in society that is rightfully theirs.
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7:01 - 7:10It was a challenge to do all of this in 1982-- and it is still a challenge today.
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7:10 - 7:15Opening the 388 center was an innovation in psychosis treatment.
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7:15 - 7:22Let me go back to Mr.D, the first patient, who said "I wasn't even speaking"
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7:22 - 7:28"I saw an article on the 388 center and figured, why not?
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7:28 - 7:33I started my analytic treatment. It was not easy and took a lot of hard work.
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7:33 - 7:40But now, I'm back in school, I talk, and I've got a new lease on life."
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7:40 - 7:47At the center for psychoanalytic treatment, psychoanalysis is defined as
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7:47 - 7:56"a set of ethical practices that will promote a space in social relationships
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7:56 - 7:59for unconscious desires."
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7:59 - 8:04This new type of psychoanalysis is open to the problems faced by psychotics,
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8:04 - 8:12and was made possible by the work of Willy Apollon, a psychoanalyst.
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8:12 - 8:19The center is located in a beautiful house in a bustling neighbourhood
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8:19 - 8:25in the heart of the of Quebec city.
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8:25 - 8:32The facilities are open 24 hours a day, all year round
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8:32 - 8:34There is no medication on the premises,
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8:34 - 8:38there are no isolation rooms or restraints;
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8:38 - 8:44The center runs on verbal agreements.
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8:44 - 8:50Elise says: "What I like about the 388 is that the house promotes social living,
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8:50 - 8:53that does not marginalize us."
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8:53 - 9:00The Center was born out of a partnership between an NPO, the GIFRIC,
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9:00 - 9:06and a public care institution-- currently, the CSSS Vieille Capitale.
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9:06 - 9:11The budget for the Center was made available by the
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9:11 - 9:15Ministère de la sante des services sociaux.
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9:15 - 9:20A complete psychiatric treatment is the first of the treatments offered at the Center,
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9:20 - 9:25performed by an interdisciplinary team trained in the psychoanalytical treatment.
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9:25 - 9:34This team, that is ready for anything, is headed by a psychiatrist-psychanalyst.
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9:34 - 9:42There are beds for treating those crises that used to send patients to the hospital.
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9:42 - 9:45Having these beds on-site avoids hospitalization.
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9:45 - 9:48There are also art workshops-- not art-therapy,
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9:48 - 9:55but workshops with real artists, musicians, ceramists, stage actors,
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9:55 - 9:57and painters
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9:57 - 10:06-- to allow psychotics to invent adequate means of expressing what words can't.
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10:06 - 10:10There are always things that cannot be expressed in words.
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10:10 - 10:14The Center also houses sociocultural activities:
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10:14 - 10:17these are group activities that break isolation
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10:17 - 10:24and favour the creation of strong relationships with others
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10:24 - 10:27through work and study projects.
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10:27 - 10:35At the heart of all this are regular, personal sessions with a psychoanalyst.
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10:35 - 10:41Through psychoanalysis, psychotic patients work on "the thing inside them"
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10:41 - 10:46-- or "the monster", in their words-- that makes their life unbearable.
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10:46 - 10:50Patients are guided through their suffering,
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10:50 - 10:57and go through why their life is insane in their eyes, and in other's eyes.
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10:57 - 11:01Patients talk about anything with their psychoanalysts;
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11:01 - 11:08but they talk about their crises in particular: the voices, the delusions, the dreams,
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11:08 - 11:11the inner demons...
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11:11 - 11:14They talk about the traumatic experiences in their life
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11:14 - 11:17and will try to make sense of all of it.
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11:17 - 11:24Then, patients try to find another way of living with others
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11:24 - 11:28so that they can give new meaning to their life.
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11:28 - 11:35The goal is to understand what happened to them,
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11:35 - 11:40to profoundly change their life.
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11:40 - 11:42One patient explains:
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11:42 - 11:46"I understood that psychosis is a language;
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11:46 - 11:51one that I would be the one to decode,
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11:51 - 11:59so that I would be able to never use it again."
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11:59 - 12:06Another patient shares his experience with psychoanalysis:
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12:06 - 12:11"In my treatment, the long process of de-possession was difficult:
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12:11 - 12:17breaking free of the psychological jail that confined me to exclusion.
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12:17 - 12:25Today, I no longer carry the weight of the voices of others like me.
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12:25 - 12:32In order to do that, I had to find the root of a fissure in my childhood;
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12:32 - 12:40and when I found that fissure, I could not just plug it up.
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12:40 - 12:47Now, my work requires that I do something that was completely unknown to me before:
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12:47 - 12:49Negotiating.
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12:49 - 12:56You cannot imagine how much human wealth negotiation represents."
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12:56 - 13:00At the 388, we have results
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13:00 - 13:05Here is some objective data from the GIFRIC clinical observatory
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13:05 - 13:11First, we have a significant decline in the number of hospitalizations
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13:11 - 13:1790% less hospitalization days for a group of patients
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13:17 - 13:21that had been in treatment for at least 3 years in January 2012.
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13:21 - 13:26This represents a substantial amount of cost savings.
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13:26 - 13:29The amount of medication was also reduced,
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13:29 - 13:32and the quality of life was also improved:
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13:32 - 13:36life in an apartment room, studies, work, friends
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13:36 - 13:38an independant lifestyle...
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13:38 - 13:45and being able to laugh again.
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13:45 - 13:52Psychotics go from being socially excluded to being full-fledged citizens.
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13:52 - 13:56They, like you and I, even pay taxes
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13:56 - 14:00There are 2 types of subjective data for the results
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14:00 - 14:07(1) Those taken from evaluations conducted in 2002 by Ministry of Health experts
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14:07 - 14:11In their report, they took an interest in parents
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14:11 - 14:18who saw their children become more open and express their personality.
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14:18 - 14:25They did this by progressively going through the stages of social reintegration.
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14:25 - 14:29The experts also noted that parents particularly appreciated how
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14:29 - 14:37treatment at the 388 allowed patients to optimize their abilities
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14:37 - 14:43and reach a state of recovery their families had stopped hoping for.
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14:43 - 14:50The second type of results are more important to us.
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14:50 - 14:54(Here's a picture of the green staircase)
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14:54 - 15:05What we care most about, is when the psychotics are discharged
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15:05 - 15:11Its who we care about most-- those whose lives were saved by psychoanalysis.
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15:11 - 15:13One such patient says:
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15:13 - 15:17"I used to deal to the difficulties I faced in life
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15:17 - 15:22by locking myself up in my imagination.
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15:22 - 15:26Sometimes it became nightmarish:
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15:26 - 15:29nobody wanted to hear about what I had in my soul.
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15:29 - 15:32My analytical treatment saved me.
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15:32 - 15:36The analyst accompanied me, without judgement,
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15:36 - 15:38through the meanders of my thoughts.
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15:38 - 15:43Now, I can face the challenges life throws at me
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15:43 - 15:51with the experience I amassed during my treatment."
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15:51 - 15:53Now I will conclude.
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15:53 - 15:57A couple years ago, after a visit at the 388,
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15:57 - 16:04a fellow psychiatrist-- a former director of a psychiatrist hospital in Montreal
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16:04 - 16:10as well as Canadian representative to the WHO at the time--
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16:10 - 16:13wrote the following:
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16:13 - 16:17"If the 388 did not exist,
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16:17 - 16:21it would need to be invented."
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16:21 -Thank you for your attention.
- Title:
- A new perspective for treating psychosis: Danielle Bergeron at TEDxUdeM
- Description:
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(English subtitles available)
As both a psychoanalyst and a psychiatrist, Danielle Bergeron is the director of 388, the Psychoanalytic Treatment Center for Young Adults Psychotics. With her psychoanalyst coworkers from the GIFRIC (Freudian Interdisciplinary Research and Clinical Intervention Group), Dr. Bergeron developed a new clinical process allowing patients to resume their academic and work lives as well as fully participate as citizens. This represents radical progress in the field, since the patients can gradually regain their autonomy, rather than be taken care of for life by institutions.For more information, please visit http://tedxudem.com/
Introduction video by: http://www.tommycaron.com/
Event video by: http://www.interfacemedia.net/
Translated by Stephane Detchou.TEDxUdeM - Danielle Bergeron - Une nouvelle perspective pour le traitement des psychoses
À la fois psychanalyste et psychiatre, Danielle Bergeron est directrice du 388, le Centre de traitement psychanalytique pour jeunes adultes psychotiques. Avec ses collègues psychanalystes du GIFRIC (Groupe Interdisciplinaire Freudien de Recherche et d'Intervention Cliniques) Dre Bergeron a développé un nouveau processus clinique permettant aux patients de reprendre une vie active où ils étudient, travaillent et jouent leur rôle de citoyen à part entière. Un progrès radical dans le milieu, où l'individu, plutôt que d'être pris en charge à vie par les institutions, reprend peu à peu son autonomie.
Pour plus d'informations, visitez http://tedxudem.com/
- Video Language:
- French (Canada)
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- Duration:
- 16:42
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