Take "the Other" to lunch
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0:00 - 0:02This room may appear
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0:02 - 0:04to be holding 600 people,
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0:04 - 0:06but there's actually so many more,
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0:06 - 0:08because in each one of us
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0:08 - 0:11there is a multitude of personalities.
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0:11 - 0:14I have two primary personalities
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0:14 - 0:16that have been in conflict and conversation within me
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0:16 - 0:18since I was a little girl.
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0:18 - 0:20I call them "the mystic"
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0:20 - 0:22and "the warrior."
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0:22 - 0:24I was born into a family
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0:24 - 0:26of politically active,
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0:26 - 0:28intellectual atheists.
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0:28 - 0:31There was this equation in my family that went something like this:
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0:31 - 0:33if you are intelligent,
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0:33 - 0:36you therefore are not spiritual.
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0:36 - 0:38I was the freak of the family.
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0:38 - 0:40I was this weird little kid
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0:40 - 0:42who wanted to have deep talks
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0:42 - 0:45about the worlds that might exist
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0:45 - 0:48beyond the ones that we perceive with our senses.
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0:48 - 0:50I wanted to know
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0:50 - 0:52if what we human beings see
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0:52 - 0:55and hear and think
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0:55 - 0:57is a full and accurate picture
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0:57 - 0:59of reality.
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0:59 - 1:01So, looking for answers,
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1:01 - 1:03I went to Catholic mass.
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1:03 - 1:05I tagged along with my neighbors.
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1:05 - 1:07I read Sartre and Socrates.
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1:07 - 1:09And then a wonderful thing happened
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1:09 - 1:11when I was in high school:
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1:11 - 1:13Gurus from the East
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1:13 - 1:16started washing up on the shores of America.
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1:16 - 1:18And I said to myself,
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1:18 - 1:20"I wanna get me one of them."
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1:20 - 1:22And ever since,
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1:22 - 1:25I've been walking the mystic path,
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1:25 - 1:27trying to peer beyond
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1:27 - 1:29what Albert Einstein called
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1:29 - 1:31"the optical delusion
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1:31 - 1:34of everyday consciousness."
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1:34 - 1:37So what did he mean by this? I'll show you.
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1:37 - 1:39Take a breath right now
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1:39 - 1:42of this clear air in this room.
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1:43 - 1:46Now, see this strange,
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1:46 - 1:49underwater,
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1:49 - 1:51coral reef-looking thing?
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1:51 - 1:54It's actually a person's trachea,
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1:54 - 1:56and those colored globs
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1:56 - 1:58are microbes
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1:58 - 2:00that are actually swimming around in this room
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2:00 - 2:03right now, all around us.
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2:03 - 2:06If we're blind to this simple biology,
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2:06 - 2:09imagine what we're missing
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2:09 - 2:12at the smallest subatomic level right now
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2:12 - 2:15and at the grandest cosmic levels.
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2:15 - 2:18My years as a mystic
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2:18 - 2:20have made me question
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2:20 - 2:22almost all my assumptions.
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2:22 - 2:25They've made me a proud I-don't-know-it-all.
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2:26 - 2:28Now when the mystic part of me
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2:28 - 2:30jabbers on and on like this,
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2:30 - 2:33the warrior rolls her eyes.
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2:33 - 2:36She's concerned
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2:36 - 2:39about what's happening in this world right now.
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2:40 - 2:42She's worried.
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2:42 - 2:45She says, "Excuse me, I'm pissed off,
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2:45 - 2:47and I know a few things,
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2:47 - 2:49and we better get busy about them right now."
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2:49 - 2:51I've spent my life as a warrior,
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2:51 - 2:53working for women's issues,
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2:53 - 2:56working on political campaigns,
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2:56 - 2:59being an activist for the environment.
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2:59 - 3:02And it can be sort of crazy-making,
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3:02 - 3:04housing both the mystic and the warrior
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3:04 - 3:06in one body.
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3:06 - 3:09I've always been attracted
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3:09 - 3:11to those rare people
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3:11 - 3:13who pull that off,
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3:13 - 3:15who devote their lives to humanity
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3:15 - 3:17with the grit of the warrior
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3:17 - 3:20and the grace of the mystic --
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3:20 - 3:23people like Martin Luther King, Jr.,
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3:23 - 3:25who wrote, "I can never be
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3:25 - 3:27what I ought to be
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3:27 - 3:29until you are
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3:29 - 3:31what you ought to be.
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3:31 - 3:34This," he wrote, "is the interrelated structure
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3:34 - 3:36of reality."
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3:36 - 3:39Then Mother Teresa, another mystic warrior,
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3:39 - 3:42who said, "The problem with the world
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3:42 - 3:45is that we draw the circle of our family
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3:45 - 3:47too small."
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3:47 - 3:49And Nelson Mandela,
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3:49 - 3:51who lives by the African concept
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3:51 - 3:53of "ubuntu,"
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3:53 - 3:55which means "I need you
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3:55 - 3:57in order to be me,
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3:57 - 4:00and you need me in order to be you."
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4:00 - 4:02Now we all love to trot out
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4:02 - 4:04these three mystic warriors
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4:04 - 4:06as if they were born
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4:06 - 4:08with the saint gene.
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4:08 - 4:10But we all actually have
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4:10 - 4:13the same capacity that they do,
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4:13 - 4:15and we need to do
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4:15 - 4:17their work now.
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4:17 - 4:19I'm deeply disturbed
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4:19 - 4:22by the ways in which all of our cultures
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4:22 - 4:25are demonizing "the Other"
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4:25 - 4:27by the voice we're giving
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4:27 - 4:30to the most divisive among us.
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4:30 - 4:32Listen to these titles
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4:32 - 4:34of some of the bestselling books
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4:34 - 4:36from both sides of the political divide
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4:36 - 4:38here in the U.S.
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4:38 - 4:41"Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder,"
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4:41 - 4:44"Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot,"
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4:44 - 4:47"Pinheads and Patriots,"
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4:47 - 4:49"Arguing With Idiots."
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4:49 - 4:51They're supposedly tongue-in-cheek,
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4:51 - 4:54but they're actually dangerous.
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4:54 - 4:56Now here's a title that may sound familiar,
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4:56 - 4:59but whose author may surprise you:
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4:59 - 5:01"Four-and-a-Half-Years of Struggle
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5:01 - 5:03Against Lies, Stupidity
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5:03 - 5:05and Cowardice."
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5:05 - 5:07Who wrote that?
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5:07 - 5:09That was Adolf Hitler's first title
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5:09 - 5:12for "Mein Kampf" -- "My Struggle" --
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5:12 - 5:15the book that launched the Nazi party.
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5:15 - 5:17The worst eras in human history,
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5:17 - 5:19whether in Cambodia or Germany
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5:19 - 5:21or Rwanda,
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5:21 - 5:24they start like this, with negative other-izing.
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5:24 - 5:26And then they morph
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5:26 - 5:29into violent extremism.
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5:29 - 5:32This is why I'm launching a new initiative.
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5:32 - 5:35And it's to help all of us,
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5:35 - 5:37myself included,
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5:37 - 5:39to counteract the tendency
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5:39 - 5:41to "otherize."
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5:41 - 5:44And I realize we're all busy people,
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5:44 - 5:47so don't worry, you can do this on a lunch break.
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5:47 - 5:49I'm calling my initiative,
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5:49 - 5:52"Take the Other to Lunch."
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5:52 - 5:54If you are
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5:54 - 5:56a Republican,
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5:56 - 5:59you can take a Democrat to lunch,
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5:59 - 6:02or if you're a Democrat,
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6:02 - 6:04think of it
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6:04 - 6:06as taking a Republican to lunch.
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6:06 - 6:09Now if the idea of taking any of these people to lunch
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6:09 - 6:12makes you lose your appetite,
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6:12 - 6:15I suggest you start more local,
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6:15 - 6:18because there is no shortage of the Other
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6:18 - 6:21right in your own neighborhood.
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6:21 - 6:23Maybe that person
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6:23 - 6:25who worships at the mosque,
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6:25 - 6:28or the church or the synagogue, down the street.
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6:28 - 6:30Or someone from the other side
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6:30 - 6:33of the abortion conflict.
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6:33 - 6:35Or maybe your brother-in-law
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6:35 - 6:38who doesn't believe in global warming.
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6:38 - 6:43Anyone whose lifestyle may frighten you,
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6:43 - 6:45or whose point of view
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6:45 - 6:48makes smoke come out of your ears.
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6:49 - 6:51A couple of weeks ago,
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6:51 - 6:55I took a Conservative Tea Party woman to lunch.
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6:56 - 6:59Now on paper, she passed my smoking ears test.
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7:00 - 7:02She's an activist from the Right,
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7:02 - 7:05and I'm an activist from the Left.
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7:06 - 7:08And we used some guidelines
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7:08 - 7:10to keep our conversation elevated,
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7:10 - 7:12and you can use them too,
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7:12 - 7:14because I know you're all going
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7:14 - 7:16to take an Other to lunch.
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7:16 - 7:19So first of all, decide on a goal:
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7:19 - 7:21to get to know one person
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7:21 - 7:25from a group you may have negatively stereotyped.
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7:26 - 7:28And then, before you get together,
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7:28 - 7:30agree on some ground rules.
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7:30 - 7:33My Tea Party lunchmate and I
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7:33 - 7:35came up with these:
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7:35 - 7:37don't persuade, defend
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7:37 - 7:39or interrupt.
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7:39 - 7:41Be curious;
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7:41 - 7:43be conversational; be real.
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7:43 - 7:45And listen.
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7:45 - 7:47From there, we dove in.
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7:47 - 7:49And we used these questions:
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7:49 - 7:52Share some of your life experiences with me.
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7:52 - 7:54What issues
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7:54 - 7:56deeply concern you?
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7:56 - 7:58And what have you always wanted to ask
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7:58 - 8:01someone from the other side?
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8:01 - 8:03My lunch partner and I
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8:03 - 8:05came away with some really important insights,
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8:05 - 8:08and I'm going to share just one with you.
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8:08 - 8:10I think it has relevance
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8:10 - 8:12to any problem
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8:12 - 8:14between people anywhere.
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8:14 - 8:17I asked her why her side
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8:17 - 8:19makes such outrageous allegations
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8:19 - 8:22and lies about my side.
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8:22 - 8:24"What?" she wanted to know.
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8:24 - 8:26"Like we're a bunch
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8:26 - 8:28of elitist,
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8:28 - 8:30morally-corrupt terrorist-lovers."
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8:30 - 8:32Well, she was shocked.
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8:32 - 8:34She thought my side
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8:34 - 8:37beat up on her side way more often,
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8:37 - 8:39that we called them brainless,
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8:39 - 8:42gun-toting racists,
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8:42 - 8:44and we both marveled
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8:44 - 8:46at the labels that fit
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8:46 - 8:48none of the people
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8:48 - 8:50we actually know.
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8:50 - 8:52And since we had established some trust,
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8:52 - 8:55we believed in each other's sincerity.
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8:56 - 8:59We agreed we'd speak up in our own communities
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8:59 - 9:01when we witnessed
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9:01 - 9:03the kind of "otherizing" talk
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9:03 - 9:05that can wound
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9:05 - 9:07and fester into paranoia
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9:07 - 9:10and then be used by those on the fringes
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9:10 - 9:12to incite.
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9:12 - 9:14By the end of our lunch,
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9:14 - 9:16we acknowledged each other's openness.
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9:16 - 9:19Neither of us had tried to change the other.
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9:19 - 9:22But we also hadn't pretended
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9:22 - 9:25that our differences were just going to melt away
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9:25 - 9:27after a lunch.
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9:30 - 9:32Instead, we had taken
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9:32 - 9:34first steps together,
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9:34 - 9:36past our knee-jerk reactions,
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9:36 - 9:38to the ubuntu place,
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9:38 - 9:40which is the only place
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9:40 - 9:42where solutions
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9:42 - 9:46to our most intractable-seeming problems
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9:46 - 9:48will be found.
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9:48 - 9:51Who should you invite to lunch?
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9:51 - 9:53Next time you catch yourself
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9:53 - 9:55in the act of otherizing,
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9:55 - 9:57that will be your clue.
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9:57 - 10:00And what might happen at your lunch?
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10:00 - 10:02Will the heavens open
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10:02 - 10:05and "We Are the World" play over the restaurant sound system?
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10:05 - 10:07Probably not.
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10:07 - 10:09Because ubuntu work is slow,
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10:09 - 10:11and it's difficult.
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10:11 - 10:13It's two people
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10:13 - 10:15dropping the pretense
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10:15 - 10:17of being know-it-alls.
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10:17 - 10:19It's two people,
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10:19 - 10:21two warriors,
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10:21 - 10:23dropping their weapons
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10:23 - 10:26and reaching toward each other.
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10:26 - 10:29Here's how the great Persian poet Rumi put it:
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10:30 - 10:33"Out beyond ideas
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10:33 - 10:36of wrong-doing and right-doing,
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10:36 - 10:38there is a field.
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10:38 - 10:40I'll meet you there."
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10:40 - 10:47(Applause)
- Title:
- Take "the Other" to lunch
- Speaker:
- Elizabeth Lesser
- Description:
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There's an angry divisive tension in the air that threatens to make modern politics impossible. Elizabeth Lesser explores the two sides of human nature that create this tension (call them "the mystic" and "the warrior") and shares a simple, personal way to begin a real dialogue -- by going to lunch with someone who doesn't agree with you, and asking them three questions to find out what's really in their hearts.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 10:48
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The English transcript was updated on 6/3/19.