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A new way to remove CO2 from the atmosphere

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    Four hundred parts per million:
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    that's the approximate concentration
    of CO2 in the air today.
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    What does this even mean?
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    For every 400 molecules of carbon dioxide,
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    we have another million molecules
    of oxygen and nitrogen.
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    In this room today,
    there are about 1,800 of us.
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    Imagine just one of us
    was wearing a green shirt,
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    and you're asked to find
    that single person.
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    That's the challenge we're facing
    when capturing CO2
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    directly out of the air.
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    Sounds pretty easy,
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    pulling CO2 out of the air.
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    It's actually really difficult.
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    But I'll tell you what is easy:
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    avoiding CO2 emissions to begin with.
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    But we're not doing that.
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    So now what we have to think
    about is going back;
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    pulling CO2 back out of the air.
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    Even though it's difficult,
    it's actually possible to do this.
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    And I'm going to share with you today
    where this technology is at
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    and where it just may be heading
    in the near future.
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    Now, the earth naturally
    removes CO2 from the air
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    by seawater, soils, plants and even rocks.
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    And although engineers and scientists
    are doing the invaluable work
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    to accelerate these natural processes,
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    it simply won't be enough.
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    The good news is, we have more.
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    Thanks to human ingenuity,
    we have the technology today
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    to remove CO2 out of the air
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    using a chemically manufactured approach.
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    I like to think of this
    as a synthetic forest.
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    There are two basic approaches
    to growing or building such a forest.
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    One is using CO2-grabbing chemicals
    dissolved in water.
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    Another is using solid materials
    with CO2-grabbing chemicals.
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    No matter which approach you choose,
    they basically look the same.
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    So what I'm showing you here
    is what a system might look like
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    to do just this.
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    This is called an air contactor.
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    You can see it has to be
    really, really wide
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    in order to have
    a high enough surface area
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    to process all of the air required,
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    because remember,
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    we're trying to capture
    just 400 molecules out of a million.
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    Using the liquid-based
    approach to do this,
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    you take this high surface area
    packing material,
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    you fill the contactor
    with the packing material,
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    you use pumps to distribute liquid
    across the packing material,
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    and you can use fans,
    as you can see in the front,
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    to bubble the air through the liquid.
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    The CO2 in the air
    is separated [by] the liquid
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    by reacting with the really strong-binding
    CO2 molecules in solution.
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    And in order to capture a lot of CO2,
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    you have to make this contactor deeper.
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    But there's an optimization,
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    because the deeper
    you make that contactor,
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    the more energy you're spending
    on bubbling all that air through.
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    So air contactors for direct air capture
    have this unique characteristic design,
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    where they have this huge surface area,
    but a relatively thin thickness.
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    And now once you've captured the CO2,
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    you have to be able to recycle
    that material that you used to capture it,
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    over and over again.
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    The scale of carbon capture is so enormous
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    that the capture process
    must be sustainable,
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    and you can't use a material just once.
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    And so recycling the material requires
    an enormous amount of heat,
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    because think about it:
    CO2 is so dilute in the air,
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    that material is binding it really strong,
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    and so you need a lot of heat
    in order to recycle the material.
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    And to recycle the material
    with that heat,
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    what happens is that concentrated CO2
    that you got from dilute CO2 in the air
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    is now released,
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    and you produce high-purity CO2.
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    And that's really important,
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    because high-purity CO2
    is easier to liquify,
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    easier to transport, whether
    it's in a pipeline or a truck,
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    or even easier to use directly,
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    say, as a fuel or a chemical.
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    So I want to talk a little bit more
    about that energy.
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    The heat required to regenerate
    or recycle these materials
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    absolutely dictates the energy
    and the subsequent cost of doing this.
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    So I ask a question:
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    How much energy do you think it takes
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    to remove a million tons
    of CO2 from the air
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    in a given year?
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    The answer is: a power plant.
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    It takes a power plant
    to capture CO2 directly from the air.
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    Depending on which approach you choose,
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    the power plant could be on the order
    of 300 to 500 megawatts.
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    And you have to be careful about
    what kind of power plant you choose.
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    If you choose coal,
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    you end up emitting more CO2
    than you capture.
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    Now let's talk about costs.
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    An energy-intensive version
    of this technology
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    could cost you as much
    as $1,000 a ton
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    just to capture it.
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    Let's translate that.
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    If you were to take that very expensive
    CO2 and convert it to a liquid fuel,
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    that comes out to 50 dollars a gallon.
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    That's way too expensive;
    it's not feasible.
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    So how could we bring these costs down?
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    That's, in part, the work that I do.
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    There's a company today,
    a commercial-scale company,
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    that can do this as low
    as 600 dollars a ton.
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    There are several other companies
    that are developing technologies
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    that can do this even cheaper than that.
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    I'm going to talk to you a little bit
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    about a few of these different companies.
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    One is called Carbon Engineering.
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    They're based out of Canada.
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    They use a liquid-based
    approach for separation
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    combined with burning
    super-abundant, cheap natural gas
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    to supply the heat required.
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    They have a clever approach
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    that allows them to co-capture
    the CO2 from the air
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    and the CO2 that they generate
    from burning the natural gas.
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    And so by doing this,
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    they offset excess pollution
    and they reduce costs.
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    Switzerland-based Climeworks
    and US-based Global Thermostat
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    use a different approach.
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    They use solid materials for capture.
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    Climeworks uses heat from the earth,
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    or geothermal,
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    or even excess steam
    from other industrial processes
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    to cut down on pollution and costs.
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    Global Thermostat
    takes a different approach.
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    They focus on the heat required
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    and the speed in which it moves
    through the material
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    so that they're able to release
    and produce that CO2
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    at a really fast rate,
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    which allows them to have
    a more compact design
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    and overall cheaper costs.
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    And there's more still.
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    A synthetic forest has a significant
    advantage over a real forest: size.
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    This next image that I'm showing you
    is a map of the Amazon rainforest.
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    The Amazon is capable of capturing
    1.6 billion tons of CO2 each year.
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    This is the equivalent
    of roughly 25 percent
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    of our annual emissions in the US.
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    The land area required
    for a synthetic forest
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    or a manufactured direct air capture plant
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    to capture the same
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    is 500 times smaller.
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    In addition, for a synthetic forest,
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    you don't have to build it on arable land,
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    so there's no competition
    with farmland or food,
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    and there's also no reason
    to have to cut down any real trees
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    to do this.
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    I want to step back,
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    and I want to bring up the concept
    of negative emissions again.
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    Negative emissions require
    that the CO2 separated
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    be permanently removed
    from the atmosphere forever,
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    which means putting it back underground,
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    where it came from in the first place.
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    But let's face it, nobody
    gets paid to do that today --
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    at least not enough.
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    So the companies that are developing
    these technologies
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    are actually interested in taking the CO2
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    and making something useful
    out of it, a marketable product.
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    It could be liquid fuels, plastics
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    or even synthetic gravel.
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    And don't get me wrong --
    these carbon markets are great.
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    But I also don't want you
    to be disillusioned.
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    These are not large enough
    to solve our climate crisis,
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    and so what we need to do
    is we need to actually think about
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    what it could take.
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    One thing I'll absolutely say
    is positive about the carbon markets
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    is that they allow for new
    capture plants to be built,
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    and with every capture plant built,
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    we learn more.
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    And when we learn more,
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    we have an opportunity
    to bring costs down.
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    But we also need to be willing to invest
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    as a global society.
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    We could have all of the clever thinking
    and technology in the world,
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    but it's not going to be enough
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    in order for this technology
    to have a significant impact on climate.
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    We really need regulation,
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    we need subsidies,
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    taxes on carbon.
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    There are a few of us that would
    absolutely be willing to pay more,
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    but what will be required
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    is for carbon-neutral,
    carbon-negative paths
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    to be affordable for
    the majority of society
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    in order to impact climate.
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    In addition to those kinds of investments,
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    we also need investments
    in research and development.
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    So what might that look like?
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    In 1966, the US invested about
    a half a percent of gross domestic product
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    in the Apollo program.
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    It got people safely to the moon
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    and back to the earth.
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    Half a percent of GDP today
    is about 100 billion dollars.
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    So knowing that direct air capture
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    is one front in our fight
    against climate change,
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    imagine that we could invest
    20 percent, 20 billion dollars.
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    Further, let's imagine
    that we could get the costs down
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    to a 100 dollars a ton.
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    That's going to be hard,
    but it's part of what makes my job fun.
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    And so what does that look like,
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    20 billion dollars,100 dollars a ton?
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    That requires us to build
    200 synthetic forests,
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    each capable of capturing
    a million tons of CO2 per year.
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    That adds up to about five percent
    of US annual emissions.
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    It doesn't sound like much.
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    Turns out, it's actually significant.
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    If you look at the emissions
    associated with long-haul trucking
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    and commercial aircraft,
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    they add up to about five percent.
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    Our dependence on liquid fuels
    makes these emissions
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    really difficult to avoid.
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    So this investment
    could absolutely be significant.
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    Now, what would it take
    in terms of land area to do this,
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    200 plants?
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    It turns out that they would take up
    about half the land area of Vancouver.
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    That's if they were fueled by natural gas.
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    But remember the downside
    of natural gas -- it also emits CO2.
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    So if you use natural gas
    to do direct air capture,
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    you only end up capturing
    about a third of what's intended,
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    unless you have that
    clever approach of co-capture
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    that Carbon Engineering does.
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    And so if we had an alternative approach
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    and used wind or solar to do this,
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    the land area would be
    about 15 times larger,
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    looking at the state of New Jersey now.
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    One of the things that I think about
    in my work and my research
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    is optimizing and figuring out
    where we should put these plants
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    and think about
    the local resources available --
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    whether it's land, water,
    cheap and clean electricity --
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    because, for instance,
    you can use clean electricity
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    to split water to produce hydrogen,
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    which is an excellent, carbon-free
    replacement for natural gas,
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    to supply the heat required.
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    But I want us to reflect a little bit
    again on negative emissions.
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    Negative emissions should not be
    considered a silver bullet,
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    but they may help us
    if we continue to stall
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    at cutting down on CO2
    pollution worldwide.
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    But that's also why we have to be careful.
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    This approach is so alluring
    that it can even be risky,
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    as some may cling onto it as some kind
    of total solution to our climate crisis.
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    It may tempt people to continue
    to burn fossil fuels 24 hours a day,
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    365 days a year.
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    I argue that we should not
    see negative emissions
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    as a replacement for stopping pollution,
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    but rather, as an addition to an existing
    portfolio that includes everything,
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    from increased energy efficiency
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    to low-energy carbon
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    to improved farming --
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    will all collectively get us on a path
    to net-zero emissions one day.
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    A little bit of self-reflection:
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    my husband is an emergency physician.
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    And I find myself amazed
    by the lifesaving work
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    that he and his colleagues
    do each and every day.
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    Yet when I talk to them
    about my work on carbon capture,
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    I find that they're equally amazed,
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    and that's because combatting
    climate change by capturing carbon
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    isn't just about saving a polar bear
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    or a glacier.
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    It's about saving human lives.
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    A synthetic forest may not ever be
    as pretty as a real one,
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    but it could just enable us
    to preserve not only the Amazon,
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    but all of the people
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    that we love and cherish,
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    as well as all of our future generations
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    and modern civilization.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
A new way to remove CO2 from the atmosphere
Speaker:
Jennifer Wilcox
Description:

Our planet has a carbon problem -- if we don't start removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, we'll grow hotter, faster. Chemical engineer Jennifer Wilcox previews some amazing technology to scrub carbon from the air, using chemical reactions that capture and reuse CO2 in much the same way trees do ... but at a vast scale. This detailed talk reviews both the promise and the pitfalls.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Duration:
14:15

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