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    ♪ theme music ♪
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    (Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,
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    an in-depth, interactive study
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    of the Word of God.
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    I'm excited today because we're
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    in the middle of a great series on Life,
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    Death, Resurrection, and Eternal Life.
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    It could be the most important series
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    that you study with us
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    as part of our Hope Sabbath School family
    around the world.
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    And we're going to be looking today
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    at an encouraging topic.
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    The New Testament Hope.
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    So welcome to Hope Sabbath School
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    and welcome to the team.
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    Good to be together again
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    and good to see your smiling faces.
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    Jason, I'm excited you're going
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    to be teaching today.
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    What a great topic,
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    The New Testament Hope.
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    We want to also welcome
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    our team members joining us remotely.
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    Nicholas, good to see you from Georgia,
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    glad you're with us.
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    Shaina, good to see you from Maine again.
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    And, Tricia Lee, great to see you
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    from Virginia; we're glad you're part
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    of our study today.
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    We're always happy to hear
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    from our Hope Sabbath School members,
    right, around the world.
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    We have them in about 200 countries.
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    You say, "Derek, how do you know that?"
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    Because they're using our app,
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    and we get the statistics
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    on how many countries
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    are using our Hope Channel app.
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    But we also get emails,
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    and they'll tell us where they're from.
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    This is from Michigan
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    in the United States.
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    Now, Travis, that's your territory, right,
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    and Brittany, homeland, so give a wave
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    to Gregory in Michigan.
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    Alright, he says, "Hope Sabbath School
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    is an authentic show where panelists
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    interpret Scripture from the perspective
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    of their own experience.
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    But also, it may be a force
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    that will bring the church
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    into a more unified, cohesive
    worldwide whole."
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    (Team) Amen!
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    (Derek) Wow! "We are now so separated
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    from one another along the wall."
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    Well, Gregory, I'm not sure
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    what wall that is, but you're right;
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    the enemy wants to divide,
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    and God wants us to be unified. Amen?
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    But not just unified by some kind
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    of lowest common denominator
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    but unified in Christ. Amen?
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    So, thanks for writing to us,
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    Gregory, from Michigan.
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    Here is a note from Maureen in Guyana.
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    Now, Travis, you've worked
    in Guyana, right,
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    so you know the folks there.
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    And Maureen writes and says,
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    "I appreciate the interactive nature
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    of Hope Sabbath School
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    and the wide cross-section of panelists.
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    Okay, let's take a look at the panelists.
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    Look at each other.
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    Do you notice that we
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    don't all look the same?
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    That we're not all ladies,
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    and we're not all men, right, and we're
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    not all from one part of the world.
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    That's because we represent
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    a global family, and Maureen
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    is saying, "I like that."
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    Thanks for writing to us, Maureen,
    from Guyana.
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    By the way, that isn't by accident, is it?
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    We want the Hope Sabbath School team
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    My family has watched
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    God bless you," and a donation
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    Thank you, Donor, in New York State.
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    We're glad you're part of the miracle.
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    And one last note, from Alma in Texas.
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    Anybody here from Texas?
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    Nisha, are you from Texas?
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    Alright, Alma writes from Texas
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    in the United States; she says, "I love
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    I've never understood the Word of God
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    (Team) Amen.
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    (Derek) "I feel like family,
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    Well, Alma, thanks for writing to us
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    from Texas here in the United States.
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    We'd love to hear from you.
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    You say, "Derek, I don't write to people."
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    Well, but we'd like to hear
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    Absolutely, we'd love to hear from you
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    of The Story of Jesus.
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    Well, right now we need you
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    to help us with our theme song.
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    Oh, theme songs are
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    always helpful, aren't they?
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    And, what's our theme song
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    for this series, anybody tell me?
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    (Team) "Do not be afraid."
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    (Derek) Oh, it's the Word
    of Jesus, isn't it,
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    from Revelation, chapter 1.
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    "Do not be afraid;
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    I am the First and the Last.
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    I am He who lives, and was dead,
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    and behold, I am alive forevermore.
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    And I have the keys of Hades,"
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    that's the grave, "and of Death."
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    I'm so thankful for that Scripture
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    of Jesus; let's sing it together.
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    ♪ music ♪
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    (Derek) What an amazing promise of Jesus.
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    Jason, I'm looking forward to the study
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    on The New Testament Hope.
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    (Jason) Amen. Thank you, Pastor Derek.
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    Please bow your heads as I pray.
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    Our dear heavenly Father,
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    as we open Your Word,
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    Lord, help us to find hope in You.
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    Lord, as we look through
    the New Testament,
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    as we look through the Scriptures,
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    Lord, help us to have encouragement
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    no matter what we're going through
    in this life.
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    Guide our hearts, guide our minds.
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    We pray this in the name of Jesus. Amen.
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    (Derek, Team) Amen.
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    (Jason) We've been looking here
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    at this idea of life, death,
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    what happens after death.
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    We talked about resurrection
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    and eternal life, and today we're looking
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    at this from the perspective
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    of the New Testament.
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    And who was the most prolific author
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    of the New Testament?
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    Who wrote a large portion
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    of the New Testament?
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    (Team) Paul.
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    (Jason) Paul, yes!
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    And so, we're actually going to go
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    and start in the writings of Paul.
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    We're going to go to a letter he wrote
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    to the Corinthians,
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    1 Corinthians, chapter 15.
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    I'm going to ask Brittany
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    if you could start us out here.
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    We're in 1 Corinthians, chapter 15;
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    if you could read verses 12 through 19,
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    because as Brittany reads,
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    we're going to see here for Paul,
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    this is not just a light matter.
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    This is something very important.
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    And as she reads, listen.
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    Let's see why for Paul
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    is this so important, this idea
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    of eternal life, of resurrection.
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    Why is it so urgent for him?
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    (Brittany) I'll be reading
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    from the New King James Version,
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    1 Corinthians 15, verse 12, says:
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    (Jason) Ouch!
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    That's some pretty strong language there,
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    "We are of all men the most pitiable"?
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    Yikes. Alright, Jason, what do you
    think of that?
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    What is Paul saying there?
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    (Jason) Wow, he's just saying,
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    for the most part,
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    that our hope, our faith,
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    relies on Jesus being resurrected.
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    Without that, like Paul said, it's futile,
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    and we would still be in our sins.
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    (Jason) We would still be
    in our sins. Nisha.
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    (Nisha) While the dead have no hope,
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    we have hope for the dead that we are
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    going to be resurrected once again,
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    and it also removes that as well.
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    (Derek) I'm thinking of what Jesus said
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    in the theme song.
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    He has the keys of the grave and death,
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    so His victory over death
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    becomes our victory
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    when we have faith in Him.
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    (Jason) Amen. Yes. Travis,
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    you wanted to add here
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    to what you see here
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    of what Paul's talking about?
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    (Travis) Well, I'm trying to think
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    of the audience, who he's speaking to,
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    and I'm thinking he
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    must have been speaking to the Sadducees
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    because they didn't believe and taught
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    that there was no resurrection
    from the dead.
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    So, this would have been a paradigm shift
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    for some who would have thought
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    that there was no resurrection.
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    (Derek) Well, I think it
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    wouldn't be Sadducees, though,
    because we're in Corinth here.
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    (Jason) Greeks?
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    (Derek) Yeah, these would be Greeks
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    who maybe believed in some kind
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    of immortality of the soul,
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    that we float off;
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    flesh is bad; spirit is good,
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    which is not what Jesus taught, right?
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    Jesus taught a literal resurrection
    from the dead.
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    But, you know, probably there in Corinth,
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    with the Greek philosophy,
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    there's this argument that really
    a bodily resurrection
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    would not be even desirable.
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    (Jason) That's right, and Paul
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    makes it clear this is also important
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    in a spiritual sense.
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    What do you see there?
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    What does he [say] about how this
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    is important in a spiritual sense?
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    Brittany, what is he referencing there?
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    (Brittany) He says if Christ hasn't risen,
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    then we're still stuck in our sins.
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    We're trapped in our sins,
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    and there's no hope for us
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    to have eternal life, because sin,
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    the consequence of sin, is death.
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    (Jason) Harold.
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    (Harold) I was just going to add,
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    if there's no resurrection,
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    then what's the purpose of life?
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    What's the purpose of our existence?
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    Like, why are we here then?
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    Nothing matters at that point.
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    If our existence is just this,
    anything goes.
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    (Jason) And Paul makes a hint to that.
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    I would like, Harold, actually,
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    if you could go in this chapter,
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    go to 1 Corinthians, chapter 15,
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    go to verse 32 and just read
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    the second part there, part B,
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    if you will, of verse 32
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    because Paul literally basically says
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    almost that same idea, Harold.
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    So, if you could read that for us.
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    (Harold) And I'll be reading
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    from the New King James Version,
    and it reads:
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    (Jason) Alright, so what does
    that say, Travis?
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    What is the point of this life
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    if the dead do not rise?
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    (Travis) Well, I mean, I'm thinking here
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    in terms of how we live today,
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    and basically he's saying,
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    "If this isn't true,
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    and He hasn't been raised,
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    we might as well just live it up;
    it's all we've got."
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    (Jason) There we go.
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    And this is actually, you guys notice,
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    is Paul quoting somewhere here?
    Yes, Jason.
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    (Jason) He's quoting Solomon,
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    and it's interesting because he chose that
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    because, of course, in Ecclesiastes
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    we see that Solomon is basically doing
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    an overlook of life itself.
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    And so, he pulled this from that
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    to kind of make his point [stronger].
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    (Jason) Alright, so we should
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    probably read that then.
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    He's quoting from Ecclesiastes.
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    He's actually quoting from chapter 2,
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    Ecclesiastes, chapter 2, which we know
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    is written by Solomon,
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    the wisest man who ever lived,
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    we could say even one of the wealthiest.
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    I'm going to ask Laurel if you could read,
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    because we're going to read
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    about this man who tried to get pleasure,
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    who tried to get, shall we say, hope,
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    if you will, out of this world,
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    out of this world's existence.
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    We're going to go to Ecclesiastes,
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    chapter 2; Laurel, if you could read
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    verses 1 through 11.
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    Let's see here, and as she reads,
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    let's look at what is his attitude,
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    what are the actions he tries to do,
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    and then, of course,
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    what is his conclusion.
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    (Laurel) I'll be reading
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    from the New American Standard Bible:
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    (Jason) Wow!
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    That's quite, shall we say, a testimony.
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    So, I want to start, I want
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    to go through this passage.
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    Harold, what is the attitude of Solomon
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    at the beginning here?
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    What are his thoughts toward life?
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    (Harold) Well, I mean, at least the things
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    that he did on Earth, he just realized
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    after he enjoyed himself
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    he wasn't filled; it wasn't fulfilling
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    at the end of the day.
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    And he still wanted to do more.
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    (Jason) Travis.
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    (Travis) It's as if he's trying
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    to take all his wisdom
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    and put it into this one idea,
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    "I want to get the most out of life."
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    That's what he's striving for.
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    So, it seems like this
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    isn't God-given wisdom,
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    "I'm going to, with all my wisdom, try
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    to get the most I can
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    out of this short period
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    of life that I have."
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    (Jason) And did you see, what are
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    the things he tries to do?
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    Nisha, what are examples?
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    What are some of the things
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    you see there that he actually tries
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    to do to get pleasure out of life?
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    (Nisha) So, monetarily he accrues
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    a lot of wealth, and so he then starts
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    building himself things.
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    There are vineyards, there are homes,
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    there are people to work in the homes.
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    There are wives, there is everything
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    that you could acquire,
    possibly, with money.
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    (Jason) Yes, people to work
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    in the home, wives.
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    And is he getting these by free choice?
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    We get some hints here.
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    Apparently, he's also including
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    other people forcibly in this.
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    So, he's exploiting other people
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    to get his own pleasure
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    out of all these experiences.
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    And what is his conclusion?
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    What does he say it is, Brittany?
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    (Brittany) It's all vanity.
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    (Jason) It's vanity.
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    (Brittany) It's all empty.
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    (Jason) It's empty.
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    It's grasping the wind;
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    it's striving after the wind,
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    some even say chasing the wind.
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    Alright, so why is it
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    chasing the wind, Travis?
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    Why is it pointless
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    to go after these pleasurable experiences?
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    (Travis) I've actually never tried
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    to grab wind, but it seems like, you know,
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    if I was to go out in a windstorm
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    and try to grab or chase wind,
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    it's useless, right?
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    It's going to profit me nothing
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    because I'm not going to catch it.
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    And so, what Solomon is doing here is,
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    even after he's applied all his wisdom,
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    he said, "You know what?
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    Everything that I've done
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    is just absolutely useless.
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    It's actually profited me nothing."
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    (Jason) Nisha.
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    (Nisha) Within what he's saying,
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    what he doesn't seem to be saying
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    is that he was looking for something.
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    All of this didn't fulfill, in some way.
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    He's saying it's vanity, but he's saying,
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    "It meant nothing; I'm still empty."
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    And I think that's the problem.
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    (Jason) Yes, Derek.
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    (Derek) And what's really tragic
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    is that nowhere in this does he say,
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    "I earnestly sought the Lord
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    and asked Him how I could find
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    meaning and hope in my life."
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    Now, at the end of the book, he'll say,
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    "Reverence God and keep
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    His commandments," you know.
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    But here, God doesn't
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    seem to be in the picture at all,
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    but at least he gives a confession
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    to people who might try
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    to go down this same useless road
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    of finding hope in stuff
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    or in physical sensation.
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    (Jason) Eric.
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    (Eric) One of the things
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    that he alludes to here
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    is that life is brief, which means,
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    even after doing all these things,
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    when at the end of life,
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    everything that you have done,
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    you find that you can't take it with you.
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    It's meaningless at the end of the day.
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    You have fun and all that good stuff,
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    but at the end of the day
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    it is still meaningless;
    you leave it right here.
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    (Harold) I was just going to add,
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    but it does say something
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    about human nature because the fact
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    that we're always trying
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    to seek and be filled,
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    seek and filled, and actually I believe
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    it's because, the next chapter,
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    it says that God has put eternity in us.
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    So, that eternity that He has put in us
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    in the sense of seeking,
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    like, for the best -
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    and actually God did create pleasure.
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    I mean, that is part of His creation.
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    He even made a garden
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    called "Pleasure" so we can enjoy.
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    And that eternity can only be filled
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    through God because God is eternal.
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    And we will always be satisfied
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    if we are at His feet every day
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    and seeking Him, and maybe that's
    why we will...
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    (Jason) Kenneth, and then I have
    a question for you guys.
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    (Kenneth) To me, it sounds like he was
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    speaking to present day, you know,
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    like the way we are living our lives.
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    And as a young person,
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    all the things that we think
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    bring fulfillment, bring joy,
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    every single one of them,
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    as you keep going up the ladder
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    which he described,
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    you become emptier and emptier.
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    So, I think if there is someone
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    who can share this experience,
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    a billionaire, and did all of this
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    and still say it's vanity,
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    I would take him seriously.
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    (Jason) Kenneth referenced present day,
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    and lest we be so hard on Solomon,
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    have we ourselves sometimes
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    possibly lived for pleasure?
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    I'm just curious, and I know
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    this is a personal, vulnerable moment,
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    but is there anyone here on the team
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    maybe where you've had some experiences?
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    Like Solomon, you wanted to try to get
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    what you could out of this life;
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    you wanted to live for pleasure.
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    Is there anyone here on the team?
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    Harold, you nodded your head?
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    (Harold) I mean, sure, I'll go.
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    I was not nodding my head, but I mean
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    I can start even at a younger age.
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    As a younger boy, actually I was
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    very ambitious; I always wanted toys.
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    Even when my mom and my father
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    never wanted to buy them
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    because of their means.
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    But I always found a way
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    of how to get them regardless.
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    So, I would come up with schemes
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    to steal and just keep them
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    in a way that I made it appear
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    as if my parents bought it.
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    So, like, one time I went to the store.
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    I stole this set of toys,
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    and I hid it in my father's closet.
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    And after he came from work,
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    he's like, "Oh, how did that get here?"
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    And I said, "Oh, thank you
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    for buying this for me.
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    It's in your closet."
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    And I was a young boy;
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    I was probably like six or five years old,
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    and it didn't end there.
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    I would go to the parks;
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    I would see the toys.
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    I would be waiting
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    until the children would go away,
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    and I would just steal them
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    and bring them home.
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    And I would do that for many years,
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    even to my teenage years.
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    I would still steal because I,
    for some reason,
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    I always wanted something,
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    but I realized I was never satisfied,
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    but I kept doing it until, of course,
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    I understood more of Jesus,
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    and, like, "Oh, wait a minute; this is
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    my true fulfillment, not these things."
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    (Jason) So, even as a boy, you tried
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    to get your fulfillment out of toys,
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    out of pleasure, out of things,
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    and you found that it's not valuable.
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    It's doesn't help. Yes, Derek.
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    (Derek) I just want to affirm Harold
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    for having the courage
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    to share his testimony,
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    because sometimes people
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    watching Hope Sabbath School think,
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    "Well, you folks are all,
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    like, perfect people, and I'm struggling
  • 24:04 - 24:07
    because I've been addicted to something."
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    And it may not be even things
    that are bad.
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    I may be addicted to being top
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    of my class, having the highest grade.
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    But even those things don't meet
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    the deepest longing of the heart.
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    Only God can meet that,
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    and I think Kenneth is right.
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    That's our culture today.
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    People are trying to find hope
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    in things apart from God.
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    (Jason) And as Harold shared there,
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    while he tried to find meaning and hope
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    out of toys, out of pleasure,
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    he said it wasn't valuable;
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    it was pointless; it was vanity,
    meaninglessness.
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    Why is that, Travis?
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    Why do we get hopelessness,
  • 24:45 - 24:47
    even when we're trying to find
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    hope and pleasure out of this world?
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    (Travis) I'm just thinking
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    of Jeremiah 2:13 where it talks
  • 24:53 - 24:58
    about Israel pursuing wealth
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    that is without water.
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    And basically, these are just...
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    You know, we're hungering and thirsting,
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    but the real thing that God wants us
  • 25:05 - 25:07
    to hunger and thirst for is righteousness
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    because that's the one thing -
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    His righteousness - that's the one thing
  • 25:11 - 25:13
    that can bring us peace and joy
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    and happiness, is living a life
  • 25:16 - 25:17
    of service for God.
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    (Jason) Amen. Well, we need to continue.
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    We've shared a little bit of some things.
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    It may sound a little depressing,
  • 25:23 - 25:24
    what we've talked about,
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    which is true because hope
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    in this world is depressing.
  • 25:27 - 25:28
    It's vanity; it's pointlessness.
  • 25:28 - 25:30
    But there is good news, guys.
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    There is hope, and I'm going to ask Shaina
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    if you could read for us about this hope.
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    We're going to go to the Gospel,
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    to the book of John,
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    John, chapter 14, verses 1 through 3,
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    because, guys, while this world
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    is pointless, this world is hopeless -
  • 25:47 - 25:49
    the pleasures of it - there is hope.
  • 25:49 - 25:52
    The New Testament does talk
    about this hope,
  • 25:52 - 25:53
    and I'm going to ask Shaina
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    if you could read about this hope
  • 25:55 - 25:56
    for us right now.
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    (Shaina) Sure, and I'll be reading
  • 25:58 - 26:00
    from the New King James Version:
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    (Jason) Amen. Alright, so Jesus
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    is sharing this to His disciples,
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    and does anyone know, what is the context?
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    Why does He say, "Let not
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    your heart be troubled"?
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    Why does He say, "Don't worry"?
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    Brittany, what's the context
  • 26:41 - 26:43
    of when Jesus is saying these words?
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    (Brittany) This is right after they've had
    the last supper,
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    and it talks about He's predicting
  • 26:48 - 26:51
    Peter's denial of Him
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    right before these verses.
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    And He's saying, "Even though all
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    these things are going to happen -
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    I'm going to die, you guys are
  • 26:57 - 26:59
    all going to leave Me -
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    don't give up hope because I'm preparing
  • 27:01 - 27:03
    a place for you, and I will come back."
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    (Jason) That's right,
  • 27:04 - 27:06
    because, is it possible the disciples
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    might have been tempted even to have
  • 27:07 - 27:09
    a little bit of pleasure
  • 27:09 - 27:11
    or a little bit of hope in this world?
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    We made reference, Pastor Derek shared
  • 27:13 - 27:15
    about pleasure and achievement,
  • 27:15 - 27:17
    and maybe the disciples had
  • 27:17 - 27:19
    some of that hope in Jesus. Yes, Kenneth.
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    (Kenneth) I think, when we look
  • 27:20 - 27:22
    at the life of the disciples,
  • 27:22 - 27:25
    their hope of Jesus was Jesus
  • 27:25 - 27:27
    establishing an eternal kingdom,
  • 27:27 - 27:29
    or a kingdom on earth to redeem them
  • 27:29 - 27:31
    from their temporary suffering.
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    They were not looking for an eternal hope,
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    so their hope was even limited,
  • 27:35 - 27:37
    something that Jesus could not fulfill.
  • 27:37 - 27:39
    And sometimes we see that today.
  • 27:39 - 27:40
    Some people hope in God.
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    It is for them to have
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    that kind of material wealth or something
  • 27:44 - 27:46
    that they need here and now,
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    not something bigger.
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    (Jason) Yes. Nisha.
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    (Nisha) What Kenneth was just saying
    just made me think,
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    without God we don't understand.
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    God kept trying to break this notion
  • 27:57 - 27:59
    that you can get happiness here on Earth.
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    He was trying to expand their minds
  • 28:01 - 28:01
    in a way that they
  • 28:01 - 28:03
    just completely didn't understand,
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    in a hope that was just so much bigger
  • 28:05 - 28:07
    than what you can physically see.
  • 28:07 - 28:09
    And He's like, "You don't understand
  • 28:09 - 28:10
    how much happier you will be
  • 28:10 - 28:11
    or how much more hope
  • 28:11 - 28:13
    you can experience in something
  • 28:13 - 28:14
    that I am going to give you.
  • 28:14 - 28:16
    You have to take your eyes
  • 28:16 - 28:17
    off of what is in front of you."
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    But they were having trouble
  • 28:19 - 28:20
    doing that in that moment.
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    (Jason) That's right. Travis.
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    (Travis) I would just like to say
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    that they had already given up
    at this point.
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    They had already given up their careers
  • 28:27 - 28:28
    to follow Jesus, and they were
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    about to suffer a great disappointment.
  • 28:31 - 28:33
    And so, here I see the love of God
  • 28:33 - 28:34
    in that He's sharing
  • 28:34 - 28:35
    with them, "I will return."
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    And they can't even comprehend
  • 28:38 - 28:40
    what's going to happen,
  • 28:40 - 28:42
    and when it happens, as a matter of fact,
  • 28:42 - 28:43
    when people come back to them
  • 28:43 - 28:44
    and say, "He's risen,"
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    they're like, "Uh, I don't know
  • 28:46 - 28:47
    if I believe that."
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    And so, here is the promise to them
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    and to us that Jesus will come again.
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    (Jason) That is the promise: Jesus
    will come again. Jason.
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    (Jason) I would just like to add,
    this is one
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    of my favorite Scriptures right here,
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    but I took notice of the latter part
  • 29:02 - 29:03
    of verse 2, and it says,
  • 29:03 - 29:04
    "If it were not so,
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    I would [have told you.]"
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    I just love that Jesus
  • 29:06 - 29:07
    kept it real with us,
  • 29:07 - 29:09
    kept it a hundred percent, you know,
  • 29:09 - 29:10
    laying it all out before us.
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    (Jason) Yes. And we also hear
  • 29:12 - 29:14
    this promise repeated again
  • 29:14 - 29:16
    by someone else here
  • 29:16 - 29:18
    also in the New Testament.
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    I'm going to ask Nisha if you can go
  • 29:21 - 29:23
    to the next book of the Bible,
  • 29:23 - 29:25
    right towards the very end
  • 29:25 - 29:28
    of Jesus' experience here on this earth,
  • 29:28 - 29:31
    if you could go to Acts, chapter 1,
  • 29:31 - 29:35
    and read for us verses 9 through 11,
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    because we're going to have
  • 29:36 - 29:38
    this promise repeated again.
  • 29:38 - 29:41
    And this time, maybe not
    even just by Jesus.
  • 29:41 - 29:43
    Someone else is going
    to share this promise.
  • 29:43 - 29:45
    (Nisha) Sure, and I will be reading
  • 29:45 - 29:46
    from the New King James Version:
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    (Jason) Alright, so we have
    a promise here,
  • 30:16 - 30:18
    and who gave this promise?
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    Was this a promise from Jesus,
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    or who gave this promise, Nisha?
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    (Nisha) Two angels, we assume.
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    (Jason) Yeah, probably angels.
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    We know they are men in white,
  • 30:28 - 30:29
    heavenly messengers, alright.
  • 30:29 - 30:31
    And what is this promise, Brittany?
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    What is the promise that they share?
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    (Brittany) That the same way
  • 30:34 - 30:35
    Jesus went to Heaven,
  • 30:35 - 30:37
    He's going to come back again.
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    You have this hope that He told you,
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    that He's preparing a place for you,
    and He will come back for you.
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    (Jason) Alright, what does
    this mean, Travis?
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    We have this hope that Jesus will return
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    and have this place for us -
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    what does that mean?
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    What does that look like?
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    (Travis) I think for me, personally,
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    it's not just for me, but it's the fact
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    that He'll return is a blessing for...
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    You know, I'm thinking
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    about my mother and those
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    who have preceded me in death,
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    that when He returns
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    I'm going to meet them.
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    So, it's not just a personal happiness
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    that I get or a selfish happiness
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    because it's about me,
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    but it's because everybody
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    is included in this promise.
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    (Jason) Tricia Lee.
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    (Tricia Lee) I think it's really important
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    what the angels shared,
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    because what it really means
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    is that there is no confusion
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    as to Jesus coming back.
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    We don't have to think
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    that we'll miss His return.
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    He said, the same way He went
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    is the same way He's coming.
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    So, if someone is looking for hope,
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    they don't have to be anxious
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    that they're going to miss this big hope,
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    they're going to miss Jesus' return.
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    I think that's why it was really important
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    for them to specify, "The same way
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    you see Him go is the same way
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    He's going to return."
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    Because, if you're looking
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    for hope in Jesus, and you're not sure,
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    "Did I miss Him? Did He come back?
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    Did somebody else...," you know.
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    No, He's going to come
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    in a very visible way,
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    and that's really important
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    when we're thinking about what that means
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    for us that are expecting
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    and looking forward to Him with that hope.
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    (Jason) Amen. Shaina,
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    you want to add to that?
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    (Shaina) Yes, and this hope that we have
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    in Jesus' return is not like anything
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    that we hope for here on Earth, that we'll
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    attain whatever we're hoping for,
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    and then we get it,
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    and then, okay, the hope dies.
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    Then, okay, what's next?
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    What else can I pursue?
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    What else can I get?
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    This hope that we have in Jesus,
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    it's everlasting because once He comes,
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    all the pain and the suffering
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    and all the bad things that we are
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    associated with on this earth will end.
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    And what we'll have in Jesus
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    will be everlasting and forever.
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    (Jason) Amen. Yes, Derek.
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    (Derek) I just want to share,
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    those two verses in John 14
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    and Acts 1 are really important, Jesus
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    Himself and then these two messengers.
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    And if it just said "two men," you'd say,
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    "Well, I guess some people living there."
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    But dressed in white
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    is kind of a cryptic clue
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    to the tomb where two people
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    in shining garments appear and say,
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    "He's not here; He's risen."
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    So, these are clearly heavenly messengers.
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    But not long after these words
    were recorded,
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    this false teaching comes that Jesus
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    is not going to come back literally.
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    Even religious people say,
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    "Well, He will come in your heart."
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    Well, that's not what Jesus said,
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    as Tricia Lee pointed out.
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    The same way, personal, visible,
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    audible going up into heaven,
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    that's how He's going to come back.
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    And I think we need
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    to really hold fast to that hope
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    and not let people explain it away
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    in some kind of mystical way.
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    (Jason) Amen. Kenneth.
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    (Kenneth) The little thing
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    I want to add is this:
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    The angel says, "This same Jesus."
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    You know, in the Bible,
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    "this same" is supplied,
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    but the original Word says "this Jesus."
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    We see in our world, for the little time
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    I've lived on this earth,
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    there have been so many types
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    of false Christs coming,
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    bringing different kinds of hope.
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    But the good news is that this same Jesus,
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    not a different Jesus,
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    not a counterfeit Jesus.
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    And it's very important
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    that it is the Jesus of the Bible,
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    not a Jesus people have created for us.
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    (Jason) The Jesus of the Bible.
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    And these disciples, if you
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    think about it, when did they imagine
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    that Jesus would return?
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    What timeline do you think
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    they were thinking of, Brittany?
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    (Brittany) Maybe weeks, months,
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    maybe a year at the most.
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    They certainly weren't thinking
    after their death.
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    (Jason) Certainly not after their death.
    Harold.
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    (Harold) At the beginning
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    of chapter 1 of Acts, it does say
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    that, "Will You restore Your kingdom?"
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    Before Jesus even ascends, they ask Him,
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    and Jesus said, "No, it's not the time.
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    Right now, your job
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    is to spread the gospel, the good news."
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    (Jason) And they go out and do that.
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    And Matthew tells us, "And this gospel,
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    the kingdom, shall be preached
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    to all the world,
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    and then the end will come."
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    They take that very literally.
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    They go out, and almost all of them lose
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    their lives for the sake of the gospel.
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    And there is, though, one
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    that is still remaining at the very end.
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    Who was the last person
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    that would have had this experience,
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    the last disciple, to still be alive?
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    Who was the last person, Brittany?
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    (Brittany) John.
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    (Jason) John, and the Apostle John,
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    he received one last message from Jesus
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    at the very end of the book here,
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    and this is in the book of Revelation.
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    And I'm going to ask Nicholas
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    if you could actually read for us here,
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    because the last book of the Bible,
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    and it's referenced in Revelation,
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    chapter 3, but also the last chapter
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    of the last book of the Bible.
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    Revelation, chapter 22, Jesus
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    reiterates something to the Apostle John,
    very important.
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    And I'm going to ask Nicholas
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    if you could actually read for us
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    in Revelation, chapter 22, so last book,
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    last chapter, if you could read
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    verses 7, 12 and 20.
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    And as Nicholas reads, I want us to hear,
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    what do we hear repeated over and over?
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    What is the common theme
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    that we are told here.
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    (Nicholas) Absolutely, I'll be reading
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    from the New King James Version;
    verse 7 says:
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    And verse 12:
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    And then again in verse 20:
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    (Derek, Jason, Team) Amen.
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    (Jason) Alright, so, what is the theme?
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    Kenneth, what do we hear
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    repeated over and over there?
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    (Kenneth) "Behold, I am coming quickly."
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    (Jason) "I am coming quickly." Travis.
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    (Travis) It says that He is
    coming quickly,
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    but one of the things
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    I just want to point out is that this
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    could be relative, even to our lives.
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    I mean, let's say I live 80 years;
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    I've only been alive for 80 years.
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    My next conscious thought
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    is Jesus coming in the clouds.
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    That's going to be quite quickly.
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    I'm not going to know
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    that however many years have passed.
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    But there's also a promise,
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    or an explanation, in 2 Peter 3 that says,
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    actually, the reason there is a delay
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    isn't because He's not keeping
    His promise.
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    It's that He's actually "not willing
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    that any should perish."
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    And I think that that's a beautiful thing
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    to remember when we wonder
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    why it's taking so long.
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    (Jason) Tricia Lee, you have
    a thought here?
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    (Tricia Lee) Yeah, I appreciate
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    Travis' comments that none of us
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    have to wait 2,000 years.
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    No one has waited 2,000 years.
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    You know, you're really only waiting
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    as long as your own lifetime.
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    But, just thinking, if my husband
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    says he's on his way
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    to pick me up, "Get ready."
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    Alright, I get ready, but if I call,
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    and I'm like, "Where are you?
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    Are you passing the gas station?
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    Are you passing the school?
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    Are you around the corner?" you know,
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    if I ask those kinds of questions,
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    I'm trying to gauge how close or how far.
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    And if I know where he is,
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    I probably won't be ready
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    when he gets here.
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    If he says, "Be ready, I'm on my way,"
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    because I don't know
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    where he is on the road,
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    I'm going to be rushing
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    and hurrying up, right?
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    But as soon as I know
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    he's at the school, "Oh, okay,
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    I have a little bit more time,"
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    and may be a little bit more relaxed.
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    So, I think God gives us things
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    to look for, signs throughout the Bible,
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    but no man knows the day,
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    the hour or the time
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    because He wants us to just be ready.
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    He doesn't want us to be getting ready;
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    He wants us to be ready.
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    And so, in many ways it's just like that.
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    He's not going to tell us that He's,
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    you know, however many months
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    or years or weeks away,
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    that He says to be ready.
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    And that's just human nature;
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    if we think we have an idea
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    that He's at the stop sign
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    or at the gas station, we might slow down,
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    or we might get a little bit complacent
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    and not take that promise
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    as earnestly or as urgently.
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    (Jason) Yes. Nicholas, you wanted
    to add to that.
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    (Nicholas) Yeah, of course, this
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    being in the book of Revelation, too,
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    there are other prophecies
  • 39:23 - 39:24
    that have to do with the end of time.
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    And looking at these prophecies,
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    we can know that there would have
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    to be some time that would pass
  • 39:30 - 39:33
    before Jesus would be able to come.
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    But I think one reason, too, that He says
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    He's coming quickly is, again, He wants
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    to give each individual believer that hope
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    and expectancy that He is coming quickly.
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    Because on the scope
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    for the onlooking universe,
  • 39:43 - 39:47
    Christ's coming is going to be soon,
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    and He is going to be coming again soon.
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    And I think He wants to, you know,
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    after He described
  • 39:52 - 39:53
    the whole apocalyptic book
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    with kind of some things
  • 39:54 - 39:56
    that may be scary,
  • 39:56 - 39:57
    at the end He wants to say,
  • 39:57 - 39:58
    "I'm coming quickly."
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    It's kind of like a surgery
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    or medical operation;
  • 40:01 - 40:02
    it's going to be over soon.
  • 40:02 - 40:04
    Even if you fall asleep for part of it,
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    when you wake up, Christ is come again.
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    (Jason) Amen. That's encouragement.
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    Thank you, Nicholas.
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    I do have to ask, though,
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    because there are people
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    who especially come to us who believe
  • 40:14 - 40:17
    in the soon coming of Jesus and say,
  • 40:17 - 40:19
    "You say Jesus is coming soon.
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    Why has it taken so long?"
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    Why has it taken so long,
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    Brittany, Harold, Travis?
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    Why has it taken so long?
  • 40:26 - 40:27
    Kenneth, why has it taken so long?
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    (Kenneth) One of the things
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    that Jesus says is that we should send
  • 40:30 - 40:33
    the gospel message to all the world.
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    He never said everyone
  • 40:34 - 40:35
    is going to believe.
  • 40:35 - 40:38
    And I know there are still people groups
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    who still haven't heard the gospel.
  • 40:41 - 40:44
    It is for you and me to take this message
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    to these people to be their witness,
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    and then, just as the Bible says,
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    then the end will come.
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    (Jason) Amen. Now, there is a parable
  • 40:52 - 40:53
    that might give us a hint
  • 40:53 - 40:54
    and help us reference this.
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    For the sake of time, I'm not going
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    to have us read it all,
  • 40:57 - 41:00
    but I'm going to ask for a volunteer
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    that can give me a quick summary
    of this parable.
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    I do encourage you to read it, though.
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    Go to the book of Matthew 25,
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    read verses 1 through 13,
    read this parable.
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    And I'm going to ask if someone
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    on the team here very quickly
  • 41:13 - 41:15
    can give me a 30-second summary.
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    What is this parable?
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    What does it tell us?
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    And then we can talk about what lessons
  • 41:20 - 41:22
    it might teach us about this idea
  • 41:22 - 41:23
    of waiting for Jesus
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    and the soon coming and the delay.
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    Brittany, do you want to give us
    a quick summary of this parable?
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    (Brittany) Sure, so there was a wedding
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    that was going to happen.
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    And there were 10 virgins,
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    and each of them had a lamp,
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    and each of them put some oil in the lamp.
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    But five of them were called wise,
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    and five of them were called foolish.
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    And the only difference between them
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    is that the wise ones took extra oil
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    while the foolish ones
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    only had enough for a short time.
  • 41:48 - 41:50
    Well, everyone fell asleep,
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    and at midnight a cry went out,
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    "The Bridegroom is here
  • 41:54 - 41:56
    and come join Him and His feast."
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    And so, they wake up,
  • 41:59 - 42:03
    and the five wise ones had extra oil,
  • 42:03 - 42:04
    so their lamps were
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    still shining brightly,
  • 42:06 - 42:09
    and they went in to this wedding feast.
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    But the five foolish ones,
  • 42:11 - 42:12
    their lights had gone out.
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    They didn't have the extra oil,
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    and they said to the wise ones,
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    "Give us some of your oil.
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    We want to be able to go
  • 42:18 - 42:20
    into this wedding feast."
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    And they said, "No, we
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    can't share our oil.
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    You have to go buy it,"
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    but it was too late.
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    When they went to buy it,
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    and they came back to the feast,
  • 42:28 - 42:29
    they knocked on the door,
  • 42:29 - 42:30
    and the Bridegroom said,
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    "Nope, it's too late. You can't come in."
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    (Jason) Alright, thank you, Brittany.
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    I appreciate that summary.
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    So, what lessons does this teach us?
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    What lesson does this tell us, Travis?
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    What can we gain from this parable
  • 42:42 - 42:45
    about this idea of the delay
    of Jesus' coming?
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    (Travis) Well, one of the things
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    that we learn from the parable
  • 42:48 - 42:49
    is that none of us are perfect;
  • 42:49 - 42:51
    they were all sleeping, right?
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    But one of the things
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    I think that we can learn from this
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    is to be ready every day.
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    Apparently, some of them were ready
  • 43:03 - 43:05
    for the wrong reasons, right?
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    And so, we aren't to be ready
  • 43:10 - 43:12
    just so we don't miss out on eternity,
  • 43:12 - 43:14
    but actually I was thinking
  • 43:14 - 43:16
    of the woman at the well
  • 43:16 - 43:18
    when Jesus said that true worshippers
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    will worship in spirit and truth.
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    God actually wants people
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    who love Him, right,
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    and so, we're not just waiting
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    because we want to get into Heaven;
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    we're waiting because we
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    actually look forward
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    to seeing our Redeemer.
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    (Derek) And I think that's
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    really important what Travis is saying,
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    because at the end of this narrative,
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    He says to the foolish, "I don't know you;
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    we don't have a relationship."
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    So, it's much more than just, "Well,
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    couldn't you share some oil?"
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    In another portion of Scripture, it says
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    there's a form of godliness,
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    and tragically that's what I
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    think we're saying here.
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    But in terms of the delay, because we're
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    talking about the hope, right,
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    there's nowhere in that story that says
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    the Bridegroom came at any time
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    other than when He intended to come.
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    For them it seemed like a delay,
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    and I think we need to see the return
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    of Jesus from God's perspective.
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    You know, "I'm coming quickly
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    in terms of eternity,"
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    versus my little life.
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    But the key that we've been hearing
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    is that we need to be ready
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    in a relationship with Jesus every day.
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    (Jason) Eric.
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    (Eric) I was going to say the same thing.
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    Tricia Lee mentioned the same thing,
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    that is, always be ready.
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    And one of the things
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    that the wise ones had
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    was they were ready.
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    They were ready at the time;
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    they had even extra just in case
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    the Bridegroom was (quote/unquote)
    "delayed,"
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    because like Derek just said,
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    there was not a set time
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    when He was supposed to get there.
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    It's just they had to be ready
    for when He gets there.
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    (Jason) Right, being ready.
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    Alright, well, we need to continue on
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    because what are we getting ready for?
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    What are we wanting to experience?
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    It's eternal life, and so is eternal life
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    only a future experience?
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    Kenneth, I would like if you
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    could read for us also another book
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    written by the Apostle John
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    because there's an interesting testimony
  • 45:14 - 45:15
    from the Apostle John in the book
  • 45:15 - 45:18
    of 1 John, chapter 5,
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    verses 11 through 13.
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    And this testimony might give us
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    a little hint, if we will -
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    let's look at some of the language -
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    about when do we get eternal life.
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    Is it simply a future experience?
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    Let's see what the testimony
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    of the Apostle John is,
  • 45:36 - 45:37
    related to his experience
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    with Jesus Christ.
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    (Kenneth) And I will be reading
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    from the New King James Version,
    and it reads:
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    Amen.
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    (Jason) Amen. Alright, so if we have
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    anyone who knows a little bit
  • 46:14 - 46:16
    about English grammar here,
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    what tense are these words?
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    Is this talking about a future experience?
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    What words do we see here?
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    Laurel, what words do we see here
  • 46:25 - 46:27
    that tell us about what tense
  • 46:27 - 46:28
    these words are in?
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    (Laurel) So, like, "He who has the Son
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    has life," that's present,
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    so presently you need to have God
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    in your life right now.
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    (Jason) "Has," present, so is it possible,
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    Travis, to have eternal life right now?
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    (Travis) Well, if the Word of God is true,
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    yes, because it says "that you may know
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    that you have eternal life,"
    present tense.
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    Yeah, I mean, I believe
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    that the Word of God is inspired
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    and is true, so, yeah, I believe
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    that it is possible.
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    (Jason) Alright, so it is possible.
    Yes, Eric.
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    (Eric) It may be a little confusing
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    saying that you have eternal life
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    right now, and someone
  • 47:05 - 47:07
    might take it literally and say,
  • 47:07 - 47:08
    "Because I have Christ,
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    and I believe in Christ, I am
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    not going to die," but I don't think
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    that is what it references.
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    I think it references,
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    like, because I have Christ,
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    there is a promise of eternal life
  • 47:19 - 47:21
    once I am transformed
  • 47:21 - 47:23
    from this body of sin, and I'm transformed
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    into what really God intended for me.
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    (Derek) I think it's both.
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    I think Jesus says, "I've come
  • 47:32 - 47:34
    that you might have life and have it
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    more abundantly," or in fullness.
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    I think eternal life is not
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    just length of life.
  • 47:41 - 47:43
    I think it's quality of life.
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    And that's why, as we've been sharing,
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    if I experience the fullness
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    of life with Christ, and I happen
  • 47:49 - 47:50
    to fall asleep in death
  • 47:50 - 47:52
    and be raised at His resurrection,
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    really my life with Him is not stopped.
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    I'm experiencing that eternal life
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    and the certainty of that hope every day.
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    (Jason) Yes. Tricia Lee.
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    (Tricia Lee) Yeah, just building off
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    of Eric and Pastor Derek's comments,
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    if we go to sleep,
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    you wake up the next day;
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    you don't say your life stopped.
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    And the Bible says that death is a sleep,
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    and so from a physical perspective,
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    at the end of our lives, we fall asleep,
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    and our next thought we wake up,
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    and we are in eternity.
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    You know, our eternity has begun
  • 48:28 - 48:29
    or continued for us.
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    The short period of time that we lived
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    compared to forever,
  • 48:32 - 48:34
    it's really not a big difference,
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    so physically that eternity,
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    the promise is there.
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    We're just continuing in that.
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    But also, it's a mindset,
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    and that's that perspective that, yes,
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    we can have eternal life,
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    but the mindset is that,
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    despite the bad things
  • 48:49 - 48:50
    that are still happening around,
  • 48:50 - 48:52
    I can still have hope because I know
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    I have Jesus Christ.
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    I realize those bad things
  • 48:56 - 48:58
    that are happening, sin is temporary,
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    and I'm looking forward to the eternity
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    where it's all gone.
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    And so, I think that's
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    the dual aspects of it.
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    There is this physical life
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    that at one point I will fall asleep
  • 49:08 - 49:10
    and wake up to continue eternity,
  • 49:10 - 49:12
    but also I can have that eternal mindset
  • 49:12 - 49:14
    right now, and that's the hope
  • 49:14 - 49:15
    that despite the negative things
  • 49:15 - 49:18
    happening around me, I know that
  • 49:18 - 49:19
    Jesus is coming back,
  • 49:19 - 49:21
    and those things will pass away.
  • 49:21 - 49:22
    So, I can still have that joy
  • 49:22 - 49:23
    and that happiness that can
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    only come from Jesus
  • 49:25 - 49:26
    because I can see and have
  • 49:26 - 49:28
    the mindset of Christ,
  • 49:28 - 49:31
    that the bad things are not forever.
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    They will pass away.
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    (Jason) Amen. They will pass away.
    Yes, Nicholas.
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    (Nicholas) I think also, one of the things
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    that kind of ties the resurrection
  • 49:41 - 49:42
    together with this hope
  • 49:42 - 49:43
    and this eternal life
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    is really when we are living life in sin,
  • 49:46 - 49:48
    it's not life at all; it's death.
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    Ephesians 2:1 says,
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    "And you were made alive,
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    who were dead in trespasses and sins."
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    So, we're kind of already,
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    although we're living physically,
  • 49:57 - 49:58
    when we're in sin, we're
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    really living in death.
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    And so, when Christ is resurrected in us,
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    and He lives in us, then we have
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    true life, which is what continues on
    for eternity.
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    So, I think that's how, you know,
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    His resurrection gives us assurance
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    that He can resurrect in us
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    and gives us a hope
  • 50:15 - 50:17
    for the actual, real eternal life
  • 50:17 - 50:19
    that He is promising
  • 50:19 - 50:21
    because He's already risen in us,
  • 50:21 - 50:22
    so why can't He resurrect
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    our physical form as well.
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    (Jason) Yes, so eternal life
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    is not just a physical body,
  • 50:28 - 50:29
    physical experience, it's also
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    a spiritual one as well.
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    And Pastor Derek referenced
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    actually John 10:10, "I have come
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    [that they] may have life...
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    and life more abundantly."
  • 50:38 - 50:40
    And when we think of the word "abundance,"
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    oftentimes we think of it in terms
  • 50:42 - 50:43
    of numerical, in terms of accounting,
  • 50:43 - 50:44
    but how do you have
  • 50:44 - 50:47
    a numerical greater eternity,
    eternal life?
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    So, apparently here, abundantly may also
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    relate to the quality of experience.
  • 50:52 - 50:53
    Yes, it's the time
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    but also the quality as well.
  • 50:56 - 50:58
    But we need to also look at this gift.
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    We've talked about this change
  • 51:00 - 51:02
    that will happen, and so I want us
  • 51:02 - 51:04
    to understand when it happens,
  • 51:04 - 51:05
    because we know there's
  • 51:05 - 51:07
    going to be a change.
  • 51:07 - 51:08
    We know there's going to be a process.
  • 51:08 - 51:10
    We know we're going to be having
  • 51:10 - 51:11
    a new heaven and a new earth
  • 51:11 - 51:13
    where righteousness dwells.
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    There's going to be a better quality
    experience,
  • 51:15 - 51:18
    salvation from sin as Nicholas referenced.
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    And I'm going to ask Travis
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    if you could actually read -
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    because it's important for us
  • 51:24 - 51:26
    to understand when this happens -
  • 51:26 - 51:27
    so, Travis, if you could take us,
  • 51:27 - 51:30
    we're going back here to the Apostle Paul,
  • 51:30 - 51:33
    to 1 Thessalonians, chapter 4,
  • 51:33 - 51:35
    verses 13 through 15,
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    because it's important for us
  • 51:36 - 51:38
    to understand when this happens,
  • 51:38 - 51:40
    and also let's look a little bit
  • 51:40 - 51:41
    about what this is that's
  • 51:41 - 51:42
    going to happen for us.
  • 51:42 - 51:43
    (Travis) And I'll b reading
  • 51:43 - 51:45
    from the New King James Version:
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    (Jason) Alright, so this experience,
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    this change that's going to happen,
  • 52:19 - 52:20
    we said eternal life is now,
  • 52:20 - 52:22
    but apparently there's also some kind
  • 52:22 - 52:23
    of change that happens
  • 52:23 - 52:25
    related to this idea of death.
  • 52:25 - 52:27
    When does this happen, Brittany?
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    (Brittany) Well, according to Paul,
  • 52:29 - 52:32
    it happens at the Second Coming of Christ.
  • 52:32 - 52:34
    (Jason) The Second Coming of Christ.
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    So, what does this mean, Jason?
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    What is this experience
  • 52:37 - 52:39
    we're talking about here?
  • 52:39 - 52:41
    (Jason) Well, it's just after everything
  • 52:41 - 52:43
    takes place as far as the earth
  • 52:43 - 52:44
    and its condition now
  • 52:44 - 52:45
    when Christ comes back.
  • 52:45 - 52:47
    Therefore, the reward that we
  • 52:47 - 52:48
    talked about in Revelation 22
  • 52:48 - 52:49
    is going to be given
  • 52:49 - 52:51
    to those who sought Him,
  • 52:51 - 52:52
    you know, their whole life.
  • 52:52 - 52:54
    (Jason) Alright, Travis.
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    (Travis) Well, I think it's important
  • 52:57 - 53:01
    that we remember that God wants us
  • 53:01 - 53:04
    all, you know, the dead and the living...
  • 53:04 - 53:07
    This is going to be like
    a huge celebration.
  • 53:07 - 53:09
    This is as exciting for God
  • 53:09 - 53:12
    as it is for us, you know,
  • 53:12 - 53:14
    because we're the treasures,
  • 53:14 - 53:16
    and so He's as excited to come
  • 53:16 - 53:19
    and gather His people at that time
  • 53:19 - 53:20
    as we are excited
  • 53:20 - 53:22
    to sit here and wait for Him.
  • 53:22 - 53:23
    So, I think it's important to remember
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    that this event is going to be amazing.
  • 53:27 - 53:28
    (Jason) Amen. Nisha, and then I'm
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    also going to have you read in a second.
  • 53:30 - 53:32
    (Nisha) And we spoke about it,
  • 53:32 - 53:34
    I think, in previous lessons this quarter
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    just about the two resurrections
  • 53:35 - 53:36
    that we're going to have.
  • 53:36 - 53:40
    And this one, we're specifically talking
    about the first resurrection
  • 53:40 - 53:41
    when Jesus returns again.
  • 53:41 - 53:43
    The promise that we read
    earlier in this lesson,
  • 53:43 - 53:44
    He's gone up, "I'm going
  • 53:44 - 53:48
    to come back the same way," we're talking
    about that second time that He's coming.
  • 53:48 - 53:51
    And at that point, the dead will rise
    as will those who believe in God;
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    both sets will be raised into Heaven;
    that's the first resurrection.
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    (Jason) Now, Paul describes this
  • 53:56 - 53:59
    as a mystery, Nisha, and so I'm going
  • 53:59 - 54:01
    to ask actually if you can read
  • 54:01 - 54:02
    about this mystery.
  • 54:02 - 54:05
    We're going to go back to where we began,
  • 54:05 - 54:08
    to 1 Corinthians, chapter 15,
  • 54:08 - 54:10
    and, Nisha, if you could read for us
  • 54:10 - 54:12
    verses 51 through 55.
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    Let's see, because Nisha shared with us
  • 54:14 - 54:16
    about this first resurrection.
  • 54:16 - 54:17
    Let's see, because Paul gives us
  • 54:17 - 54:19
    a little bit of more clues,
  • 54:19 - 54:20
    a little bit of detail.
  • 54:20 - 54:21
    He calls it a mystery,
  • 54:21 - 54:22
    but he gives us some hints,
  • 54:22 - 54:24
    so let's see what we can pick up here
  • 54:24 - 54:25
    from the Word of Christ,
  • 54:25 - 54:26
    from the Scriptures here
  • 54:26 - 54:28
    about what's happening.
  • 54:28 - 54:29
    (Nisha) And I'm reading
  • 54:29 - 54:31
    from the New King James Version:
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    (Jason) Alright, what is this?
  • 55:07 - 55:09
    What are we talking about here, Travis?
    What is this?
  • 55:09 - 55:12
    (Travis) Well, this is the mystery that's
  • 55:12 - 55:15
    being talked about, us being changed
  • 55:15 - 55:17
    both physically, spiritually.
  • 55:17 - 55:20
    I mean, we'll have immortality, finally,
  • 55:20 - 55:22
    you know, and that is something
  • 55:22 - 55:25
    that I don't think we understand, right?
  • 55:25 - 55:26
    Because everything to us,
  • 55:26 - 55:27
    there's always an end,
  • 55:27 - 55:30
    and here we're going to experience life,
  • 55:30 - 55:32
    life and a change, without end.
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    (Jason) Tricia Lee, a comment
    very quickly here.
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    (Tricia Lee) Yeah, our hearts
  • 55:37 - 55:38
    and our characters have
  • 55:38 - 55:40
    already been made like Jesus.
  • 55:40 - 55:42
    When He shows up, we know Him.
  • 55:42 - 55:44
    But we're not entering Heaven
  • 55:44 - 55:46
    and eternity with aches and pains
  • 55:46 - 55:47
    or anything like that.
  • 55:47 - 55:49
    He's going to physically give us
  • 55:49 - 55:51
    new bodies, our eternal immortal bodies,
  • 55:51 - 55:53
    and we just continue living
  • 55:53 - 55:55
    with that new frame,
  • 55:55 - 55:57
    the one that we were intended to have.
  • 55:57 - 55:58
    (Derek, Team) Amen.
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    (Jason) The one that we were
  • 55:59 - 56:01
    intended to have, yes.
  • 56:01 - 56:03
    Jason, what do you think about this?
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    (Jason) This is just a great crescendo
  • 56:05 - 56:06
    of the whole Christian experience.
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    I mean, this is, like Travis said,
  • 56:08 - 56:10
    a celebration, what we look forward to.
  • 56:10 - 56:12
    And if this was the only passage
  • 56:12 - 56:13
    of Scripture right here, hey,
  • 56:13 - 56:15
    we can close the Book. Praise God.
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    (Jason) Kenneth, very quickly.
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    (Kenneth) And then, tying it together,
  • 56:19 - 56:21
    it says that, in Titus 1, verse 2,
  • 56:21 - 56:23
    it says that, "In hope of eternal life
  • 56:23 - 56:25
    which God, who cannot lie,
  • 56:25 - 56:26
    promised before time began."
  • 56:26 - 56:28
    So, this is the hope I believe in.
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    (Derek) Amen.
  • 56:29 - 56:32
    (Jason) This is the hope we
    believe in. Amen.
  • 56:32 - 56:34
    And I want to challenge you,
  • 56:34 - 56:35
    maybe you've tried to find hope
  • 56:35 - 56:37
    from the pleasures of the world.
  • 56:37 - 56:38
    Maybe you've had some experiences
  • 56:38 - 56:41
    like Solomon, and you found out that life
  • 56:41 - 56:43
    was pointless, meaningless,
  • 56:43 - 56:45
    without this hope in Jesus.
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    I ask you, throw yourself
  • 56:46 - 56:48
    into the hands of God.
  • 56:48 - 56:50
    Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you
  • 56:50 - 56:52
    so that all together we will be ready
  • 56:52 - 56:54
    on that day when our soon-coming King
  • 56:54 - 56:56
    comes to take us home
  • 56:56 - 56:58
    with Him forever. Amen.
  • 56:58 - 57:00
    (Team) Amen.
  • 57:00 - 57:01
    (Derek) I was smiling while Jason
  • 57:01 - 57:03
    was closing up our discussion today,
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    because that's our hope.
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    And when the dead in Christ rise -
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    those who loved Jesus
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    in their lives who are sleeping -
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    when they're raised and those living,
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    maybe you'll be one of them,
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    are changed in that moment,
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    a twinkling of an eye,
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    it's going to be a great celebration.
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    But we're not going to be saying so much,
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    "Oh, I did it! I did it!"
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    We're going to be saying,
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    "Praise Jesus our awesome Savior,"
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    and what a time of rejoicing that will be.
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    Friend, Jesus wants you to be there.
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    He wants you even today to say,
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    "Jesus, save me so that I can
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    be with you for eternity."
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    Let's pray; Father in Heaven,
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    we see so clearly in the New Testament
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    the blessed hope, that death
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    has been defeated through the death
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    and resurrection of Jesus.
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    Our Savior can provide
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    that eternal life for us,
    that we can enjoy
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    that new life today and forever.
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    And I pray for each one
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    that we would trust Jesus
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    as our beautiful Savior.
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    In Jesus' name. Amen.
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    (Team) Amen.
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    (Derek) Thanks for joining us
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    for Hope Sabbath School.
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    We're not even done yet.
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    This is an important series, Life, Death,
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    Resurrection, and Eternal Life,
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    but not just information,
    friend, transformation.
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    Accept what Jesus has done for you,
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    and then go out and be a blessing
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    to those around you.
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    ♪ theme music ♪
Title:
HSS_2022_Q4_EP08
Video Language:
English
Team:
Team Adventist
Project:
Hope Channel
Duration:
58:47
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Colin Preston edited English subtitles for HSS_2022_Q4_EP08
Colin Preston edited English subtitles for HSS_2022_Q4_EP08
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