Finding life we can't imagine | Christoph Adami | TEDxUIUC
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0:10 - 0:12So, I have a strange career.
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0:13 - 0:16I know it because people come up to me,
like colleagues, and say, -
0:16 - 0:18"Chris, you have a strange career."
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0:18 - 0:19(Laughter)
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0:20 - 0:21And I can see their point,
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0:21 - 0:26because I started my career
as a theoretical nuclear physicist. -
0:26 - 0:31And I was thinking about quarks
and gluons and heavy ion collisions, -
0:31 - 0:32and I was only 14 years old...
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0:33 - 0:36No, no, I wasn't 14 years old.
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0:37 - 0:38But after that,
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0:39 - 0:41I actually had my own lab
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0:41 - 0:43in the Computational
Neuroscience department, -
0:43 - 0:45and I wasn't doing any neuroscience.
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0:45 - 0:48Later, I would work
on evolutionary genetics, -
0:48 - 0:50and I would work on systems biology.
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0:50 - 0:53But I'm going to tell you
about something else today. -
0:53 - 0:57I'm going to tell you
about how I learned something about life. -
0:57 - 1:01And I was actually a rocket scientist.
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1:01 - 1:03I wasn't really a rocket scientist,
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1:03 - 1:07but I was working
at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory -
1:08 - 1:10in sunny California, where it's warm;
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1:10 - 1:14whereas now I am
in the mid-West, and it's cold. -
1:14 - 1:17But it was an exciting experience.
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1:17 - 1:20One day, a NASA manager
comes into my office, -
1:20 - 1:23sits down and says
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1:24 - 1:25that's my office, right there,
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1:25 - 1:29and I had a nice office
with the sun shining... anyway - -
1:30 - 1:31He said, "Chris,
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1:32 - 1:36can you please tell us,
how do we look for life outside Earth?" -
1:37 - 1:39And that came as a surprise to me,
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1:39 - 1:43because I was actually hired
to work on quantum computation. -
1:44 - 1:45Yet, I had a very good answer.
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1:45 - 1:47I said, "I have no idea."
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1:47 - 1:48(Laughter)
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1:48 - 1:53And he told me, "Biosignatures,
we need to look for a biosignature." -
1:53 - 1:55And I said, "What is that?"
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1:55 - 1:57And he said, "It's any
measurable phenomenon -
1:57 - 2:00that allows us to indicate
the presence of life." -
2:01 - 2:02And I said, "Really?
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2:03 - 2:05Because isn't that easy?
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2:05 - 2:06I mean, we have life.
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2:08 - 2:10Can't you apply a definition,
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2:10 - 2:14for example, a Supreme Court-like
definition of life?" -
2:15 - 2:18And then I thought about it
a little bit, and I said, -
2:18 - 2:19"Well, is it really that easy?
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2:19 - 2:21Because, yes, if you see
something like this, -
2:21 - 2:24then all right, fine,
I'm going to call it life... -
2:24 - 2:25No doubt about it.
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2:25 - 2:27But here's something."
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2:27 - 2:30And he goes, "Right,
that's life too. I know that." -
2:30 - 2:35Except, if you think that life
is also defined by things that die, -
2:35 - 2:37you're not in luck with this thing,
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2:37 - 2:39because that's actually
a very strange organism. -
2:39 - 2:41It grows up into the adult stage like that
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2:41 - 2:43and then goes through
a Benjamin Button phase, -
2:43 - 2:49and actually goes backwards and backwards
until it's like a little embryo again, -
2:49 - 2:51and then actually grows back up,
and back down and back up... -
2:51 - 2:53Sort of yo-yo... and it never dies.
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2:53 - 2:56So it's actually life,
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2:56 - 3:00but it's actually not
as we thought life would be. -
3:01 - 3:03And then you see something like that.
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3:03 - 3:06And he was like, "My God,
what kind of a life form is that?" -
3:06 - 3:07Anyone know?
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3:07 - 3:10It's actually not life, it's a crystal.
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3:11 - 3:14So once you start looking and looking
at smaller and smaller things... -
3:14 - 3:18So this particular person wrote
a whole article and said, -
3:18 - 3:20"Hey, these are bacteria."
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3:20 - 3:22Except, if you look a little bit closer,
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3:22 - 3:26you see, in fact, that this thing
is way too small to be anything like that. -
3:26 - 3:29So he was convinced,
but, in fact, most people aren't. -
3:30 - 3:33And then, of course,
NASA also had a big announcement, -
3:33 - 3:36and President Clinton
gave a press conference, -
3:36 - 3:42about this amazing discovery
of life in a Martian meteorite. -
3:43 - 3:46Except that nowadays,
it's heavily disputed. -
3:47 - 3:50If you take the lesson
of all these pictures, -
3:50 - 3:52then you realize, well, actually,
maybe it's not that easy. -
3:52 - 3:56Maybe I do need a definition of life
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3:56 - 3:58in order to make that kind of distinction.
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3:59 - 4:02So can life be defined?
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4:02 - 4:04Well how would you go about it?
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4:04 - 4:08Well of course, you'd go
to Encyclopedia Britannica and open at L. -
4:08 - 4:11No, of course you don't do that;
you put it somewhere in Google. -
4:11 - 4:12And then you might get something.
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4:12 - 4:14(Laughter)
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4:14 - 4:15And what you might get...
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4:15 - 4:19And anything that actually refers
to things that we are used to, -
4:19 - 4:20you throw away.
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4:20 - 4:22And then you might come up
with something like this. -
4:22 - 4:24And it says something longwinded
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4:26 - 4:29complicated,
with lots and lots of concepts. -
4:30 - 4:35Who on Earth would write something
as convoluted and complex and inane? -
4:37 - 4:41Oh, it's actually a really, really,
important set of concepts. -
4:41 - 4:43So I'm highlighting just a few words
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4:43 - 4:48and saying definitions
like that rely on things -
4:48 - 4:54that are not based on amino acids
or leaves or anything that we are used to, -
4:54 - 4:55but in fact on processes only.
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4:55 - 4:57And if you take a look at that,
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4:57 - 5:01this was actually in a book that I wrote
that deals with artificial life. -
5:01 - 5:05And that explains why that NASA manager
was actually in my office to begin with. -
5:05 - 5:08Because the idea was that,
with concepts like that, -
5:08 - 5:12maybe we can actually
manufacture a form of life. -
5:12 - 5:17And so if you go and ask yourself,
"What on Earth is artificial life?", -
5:17 - 5:21let me give you a whirlwind tour
of how all this stuff came about. -
5:21 - 5:25And it started out quite a while ago,
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5:25 - 5:29when someone wrote one of the first
successful computer viruses. -
5:30 - 5:32And for those of you
who aren't old enough, -
5:32 - 5:34you have no idea
how this infection was working... -
5:34 - 5:37Namely, through these floppy disks.
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5:37 - 5:41But the interesting thing
about these computer virus infections -
5:41 - 5:45was that, if you look at the rate
at which the infection worked, -
5:45 - 5:49they show this spiky behavior
that you're used to from a flu virus. -
5:49 - 5:51And it is in fact due to this arms race
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5:51 - 5:55between hackers
and operating system designers -
5:55 - 5:56that things go back and forth.
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5:56 - 6:01And the result is kind of
a tree of life of these viruses, -
6:01 - 6:05a phylogeny that looks very much
like the type of life -
6:05 - 6:07that we're used to,
at least on the viral level. -
6:07 - 6:08So is that life?
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6:09 - 6:10Not as far as I'm concerned.
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6:10 - 6:13Why? Because these things
don't evolve by themselves. -
6:13 - 6:15In fact, they have hackers writing them.
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6:15 - 6:19But the idea was taken
very quickly a little bit further, -
6:19 - 6:23when a scientist working
at the Santa Fe Institute decided, -
6:23 - 6:26"Why don't we try to package
these little viruses -
6:26 - 6:29in artificial worlds
inside of the computer -
6:29 - 6:30and let them evolve?"
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6:30 - 6:31And this was Steen Rasmussen.
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6:31 - 6:34And he designed this system,
but it really didn't work, -
6:34 - 6:37because his viruses
were constantly destroying each other. -
6:37 - 6:42But there was another scientist
who had been watching this, an ecologist. -
6:42 - 6:44And he went home and says,
"I know how to fix this." -
6:44 - 6:46And he wrote the Tierra system,
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6:46 - 6:47and, in my book,
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6:47 - 6:51is in fact one of the first
truly artificial living systems... -
6:51 - 6:55Except for the fact that these programs
didn't really grow in complexity. -
6:55 - 6:58So having seen this work,
worked a little bit on this, -
6:58 - 6:59this is where I came in.
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6:59 - 7:03And I decided to create a system
that has all the properties -
7:03 - 7:07that are necessary to see, in fact,
the evolution of complexity, -
7:07 - 7:10more and more complex
problems constantly evolving. -
7:10 - 7:14And of course, since I really don't know
how to write code, I had help in this. -
7:14 - 7:16I had two undergraduate students
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7:16 - 7:18at California Institute of Technology
that worked with me. -
7:19 - 7:22That's Charles Ofria on the left,
Titus Brown on the right. -
7:22 - 7:25They are now, actually,
respectable professors -
7:25 - 7:27at Michigan State University,
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7:27 - 7:32but I can assure you, back in the day,
we were not a respectable team. -
7:32 - 7:34And I'm really happy
that no photo survives -
7:34 - 7:36of the three of us
anywhere close together. -
7:37 - 7:39But what is this system like?
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7:39 - 7:41Well I can't really go into the details,
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7:41 - 7:44but what you see here
is some of the entrails. -
7:44 - 7:48But what I wanted to focus on
is this type of population structure. -
7:48 - 7:50There's about 10,000
programs sitting here. -
7:50 - 7:53And all different strains
are colored in different colors. -
7:53 - 7:57And as you see here, there are groups
that are growing on top of each other, -
7:57 - 7:58because they are spreading.
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7:58 - 8:03Any time there is a program
that's better at surviving in this world, -
8:03 - 8:05due to whatever mutation it has acquired,
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8:05 - 8:08it is going to spread over the others
and drive the others to extinction. -
8:08 - 8:10So I'm going to show you a movie
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8:10 - 8:12where you're going to see
that kind of dynamic. -
8:12 - 8:16And these kinds of experiments are started
with programs that we wrote ourselves. -
8:16 - 8:20We write our own stuff, replicate it,
and are very proud of ourselves. -
8:20 - 8:22And we put them in,
and what you see immediately -
8:22 - 8:25is that there are waves
and waves of innovation. -
8:25 - 8:27By the way, this is highly accelerated,
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8:27 - 8:30so it's like a 1000 generations a second.
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8:30 - 8:34But immediately, the system goes like,
"What kind of dumb piece of code was this? -
8:34 - 8:38This can be improved upon
in so many ways, so quickly." -
8:38 - 8:42So you see waves of new types
taking over the other types. -
8:42 - 8:44And this type of activity
goes on for quite a while, -
8:44 - 8:49until the main easy things
have been acquired by these programs. -
8:50 - 8:53And then, you see
sort of like a stasis coming on -
8:54 - 8:56where the system essentially waits
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8:56 - 8:59for a new type of innovation,
like this one, -
9:00 - 9:04which is going to spread over
all the other innovations that were before -
9:04 - 9:07and is erasing the genes
that it had before, -
9:07 - 9:11until a new type of higher level
of complexity has been achieved. -
9:11 - 9:14And this process goes on and on and on.
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9:14 - 9:16So what we see here
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9:16 - 9:20is a system that lives in very much
the way we're used to how life goes. -
9:21 - 9:25But what the NASA people
had asked me really was, -
9:25 - 9:28"Do these guys have a biosignature?
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9:29 - 9:30Can we measure this type of life?
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9:30 - 9:32Because if we can,
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9:32 - 9:35maybe we have a chance of actually
discovering life somewhere else -
9:36 - 9:39without being biased
by things like amino acids." -
9:39 - 9:41So I sat down a little bit,
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9:41 - 9:43and I said, "Well, if we do this,
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9:43 - 9:46perhaps we should construct a biosignature
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9:47 - 9:52that is based on life
as a universal process. -
9:52 - 9:57In fact, it should perhaps make use
of the concepts that I developed -
9:57 - 10:01just in order to sort of capture
what a simple living system might be." -
10:02 - 10:03And the thing I came up with...
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10:03 - 10:07I have to first give you
an introduction about the idea, -
10:07 - 10:11and maybe that would be
a meaning detector, -
10:11 - 10:12rather than a life detector.
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10:13 - 10:15And the way we would do that...
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10:15 - 10:17I would like to find out
how I can distinguish text -
10:17 - 10:22that was written by a million monkeys,
as opposed to text that is in our books. -
10:23 - 10:25And I would like to do it in such a way
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10:25 - 10:28that I don't actually have to be able
to read the language, -
10:28 - 10:30because I'm sure I won't be able to.
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10:30 - 10:32As long as I know
that there's some sort of alphabet. -
10:32 - 10:35So here would be a frequency plot
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10:35 - 10:39of how often you find
each of the 26 letters of the alphabet -
10:39 - 10:41in a text written by random monkeys.
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10:43 - 10:48And obviously, each of these letters
comes off about roughly equally frequent. -
10:48 - 10:51But if you now look at the same
distribution in English texts, -
10:52 - 10:53it looks like that.
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10:54 - 10:57And I'm telling you,
this is very robust across English texts. -
10:57 - 11:00And if I look at French texts,
it looks a little bit different, -
11:00 - 11:02or Italian or German.
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11:02 - 11:05They all have their own type
of frequency distribution, -
11:05 - 11:07but it's robust.
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11:07 - 11:10It doesn't matter whether it writes
about politics or about science. -
11:10 - 11:16It doesn't matter whether it's a poem
or whether it's a mathematical text. -
11:16 - 11:17It's a robust signature,
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11:17 - 11:19and it's very stable.
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11:19 - 11:21As long as our books
are written in English... -
11:22 - 11:24Because people are rewriting them
and recopying them... -
11:24 - 11:26It's going to be there.
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11:26 - 11:32So that inspired me to think about,
well, what if I try to use this idea -
11:32 - 11:36in order, not to detect random texts
from texts with meaning, -
11:36 - 11:39but rather detect the fact
that there is meaning -
11:39 - 11:42in the biomolecules that make up life.
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11:42 - 11:43But first I have to ask:
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11:43 - 11:45what are these building blocks,
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11:45 - 11:48like the alphabet, elements
that I showed you? -
11:48 - 11:51Well it turns out, we have
many different alternatives -
11:51 - 11:54for such a set of building blocks.
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11:54 - 11:55We could use amino acids,
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11:55 - 11:58we could use nucleic acids,
carboxylic acids, fatty acids. -
11:58 - 12:01In fact, chemistry's extremely rich,
and our body uses a lot of them. -
12:01 - 12:04So that we actually, to test this idea,
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12:04 - 12:07first took a look at amino acids
and some other carboxylic acids. -
12:07 - 12:09And here's the result.
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12:10 - 12:13Here is, in fact, what you get
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12:13 - 12:16if you, for example, look
at the distribution of amino acids -
12:17 - 12:21on a comet or in interstellar space
or, in fact, in a laboratory, -
12:21 - 12:25where you made very sure
that in your primordial soup, -
12:25 - 12:26there is no living stuff in there.
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12:28 - 12:33What you find is mostly
glycine and then alanine -
12:33 - 12:35and there's some trace elements
of the other ones. -
12:35 - 12:37That is also very robust...
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12:38 - 12:41What you find in systems like Earth
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12:41 - 12:45where there are amino acids,
but there is no life. -
12:45 - 12:49But suppose you take some dirt
and dig through it -
12:49 - 12:52and then put it into these spectrometers,
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12:52 - 12:54because there's bacteria
all over the place; -
12:54 - 12:57or you take water anywhere on Earth,
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12:57 - 12:58because it's teaming with life,
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12:58 - 13:00and you make the same analysis;
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13:00 - 13:03the spectrum looks completely different.
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13:03 - 13:06Of course, there is still
glycine and alanine, -
13:06 - 13:09but in fact, there are these heavy
elements, these heavy amino acids, -
13:09 - 13:13that are being produced
because they are valuable to the organism. -
13:14 - 13:18And some other ones
that are not used in the set of 20, -
13:18 - 13:21they will not appear at all
in any type of concentration. -
13:22 - 13:24So this also turns out
to be extremely robust. -
13:24 - 13:27It doesn't matter what kind of sediment
you're using to grind up, -
13:27 - 13:31whether it's bacteria
or any other plants or animals. -
13:31 - 13:32Anywhere there's life,
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13:32 - 13:34you're going to have this distribution,
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13:34 - 13:36as opposed to that distribution.
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13:36 - 13:39And it is detectable
not just in amino acids. -
13:40 - 13:41Now you could ask:
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13:41 - 13:44Well, what about these Avidians?
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13:44 - 13:48The Avidians being the denizens
of this computer world -
13:48 - 13:51where they are perfectly happy
replicating and growing in complexity. -
13:51 - 13:56So this is the distribution that you get
if, in fact, there is no life. -
13:56 - 13:59They have about 28 of these instructions.
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13:59 - 14:02And if you have a system where
they're being replaced one by the other, -
14:02 - 14:04it's like the monkeys
writing on a typewriter. -
14:04 - 14:09Each of these instructions
appears with roughly the equal frequency. -
14:10 - 14:14But if you now take
a set of replicating guys -
14:14 - 14:16like in the video that you saw,
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14:16 - 14:18it looks like this.
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14:19 - 14:20So there are some instructions
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14:20 - 14:23that are extremely valuable
to these organisms, -
14:23 - 14:25and their frequency is going to be high.
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14:25 - 14:29And there's actually some instructions
that you only use once, if ever. -
14:29 - 14:30So they are either poisonous
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14:30 - 14:35or really should be used
at less of a level than random. -
14:35 - 14:37In this case, the frequency is lower.
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14:38 - 14:41And so now we can see,
is that really a robust signature? -
14:41 - 14:42I can tell you indeed it is,
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14:42 - 14:46because this type of spectrum,
just like what you've seen in books, -
14:46 - 14:48and just like what you've seen
in amino acids, -
14:48 - 14:50it doesn't really matter
how you change the environment, -
14:51 - 14:53it's very robust, it's going
to reflect the environment. -
14:53 - 14:56So I'm going to show you now
a little experiment that we did. -
14:56 - 14:58And I have to explain to you,
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14:58 - 14:59the top of this graph
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14:59 - 15:02shows you that frequency
distribution that I talked about. -
15:02 - 15:07Here, that's the lifeless environment
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15:07 - 15:11where each instruction occurs
at an equal frequency. -
15:12 - 15:17And below there, I show, in fact,
the mutation rate in the environment. -
15:17 - 15:20And I'm starting this
at a mutation rate that is so high -
15:20 - 15:24that even if you would drop
a replicating program -
15:24 - 15:28that would otherwise happily grow up
to fill the entire world, -
15:28 - 15:31if you drop it in, it gets mutated
to death immediately. -
15:31 - 15:37So there is no life possible
at that type of mutation rate. -
15:37 - 15:41But then I'm going to slowly
turn down the heat, so to speak, -
15:41 - 15:43and then there's this viability threshold
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15:43 - 15:47where now it would be possible
for a replicator to actually live. -
15:47 - 15:52And indeed, we're going to be dropping
these guys into that soup all the time. -
15:53 - 15:54So let's see what that looks like.
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15:54 - 15:57So first, nothing, nothing, nothing.
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15:57 - 15:59Too hot, too hot.
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15:59 - 16:01Now the viability threshold is reached,
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16:02 - 16:06and the frequency distribution
has dramatically changed -
16:06 - 16:07and, in fact, stabilizes.
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16:08 - 16:09And now what I did there
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16:09 - 16:13is, I was being nasty,
I just turned up the heat again and again. -
16:13 - 16:15And of course, it reaches
the viability threshold. -
16:15 - 16:18And I'm just showing this to you
again because it's so nice. -
16:18 - 16:19You hit the viability threshold.
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16:20 - 16:22The distribution changes to "alive!"
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16:22 - 16:26And then, once you hit the threshold
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16:26 - 16:30where the mutation rate is so high
that you cannot self-reproduce, -
16:30 - 16:36you cannot copy the information
forward to your offspring -
16:36 - 16:41without making so many mistakes
that your ability to replicate vanishes. -
16:41 - 16:42And then, that signature is lost.
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16:44 - 16:46What do we learn from that?
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16:46 - 16:50Well, I think we learn
a number of things from that. -
16:50 - 16:51One of them is,
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16:52 - 16:57if we are able to think about life
in abstract terms... -
16:57 - 16:59And we're not talking
about things like plants, -
16:59 - 17:01and we're not talking about amino acids,
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17:01 - 17:03and we're not talking about bacteria,
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17:03 - 17:05but we think in terms of processes...
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17:05 - 17:07Then we could start to think about life
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17:08 - 17:10not as something
that is so special to Earth, -
17:10 - 17:13but that, in fact, could exist anywhere.
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17:13 - 17:17Because it really only has to do
with these concepts of information, -
17:17 - 17:21of storing information
within physical substrates... -
17:21 - 17:25Anything: bits, nucleic acids,
anything that's an alphabet... -
17:25 - 17:27And make sure that there's some process
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17:27 - 17:31so that this information can be stored
for much longer than you would expect... -
17:31 - 17:36The time scales for
the deterioration of information. -
17:36 - 17:39And if you can do that,
then you have life. -
17:39 - 17:41So the first thing that we learn
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17:41 - 17:46is that it is possible to define life
in terms of processes alone, -
17:46 - 17:51without referring at all
to the type of things that we hold dear, -
17:51 - 17:54as far as the type of life on Earth is.
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17:54 - 17:57And that, in a sense, removes us again,
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17:57 - 18:00like all of our scientific discoveries,
or many of them... -
18:00 - 18:02It leads to s continuous
dethroning of man... -
18:02 - 18:05Of how we think we're special
because we're alive. -
18:05 - 18:08Well, we can make life;
we can make life in the computer. -
18:08 - 18:11Granted, it's limited,
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18:11 - 18:16but we have learned what it takes
in order to actually construct it. -
18:16 - 18:18And once we have that,
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18:19 - 18:21then it is not such
a difficult task anymore -
18:21 - 18:25to say, if we understand
the fundamental processes -
18:25 - 18:29that do not refer
to any particular substrate, -
18:29 - 18:32then we can go out and try other worlds,
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18:33 - 18:36figure out what kind of chemical
alphabets might there be, -
18:37 - 18:42figure enough about the normal chemistry,
the geochemistry of the planet, -
18:42 - 18:46so that we know what this distribution
would look like in the absence of life, -
18:46 - 18:49and then look for large
deviations from this... -
18:49 - 18:54This thing sticking out, which says,
"This chemical really shouldn't be there." -
18:54 - 18:56Now we don't know that there's life then,
-
18:56 - 18:57but we could say,
-
18:57 - 19:01"Well at least I'm going to have to take
a look very precisely at this chemical -
19:01 - 19:03and see where it comes from."
-
19:03 - 19:06And that might be our chance
of actually discovering life -
19:07 - 19:09when we cannot visibly see it,
-
19:09 - 19:11as I've shown you.
-
19:12 - 19:16And so that's really the only
take-home message that I have for you. -
19:16 - 19:21Life can be less mysterious
than we make it out to be -
19:21 - 19:24when we try to think
about how it would be on other planets. -
19:24 - 19:28And if we remove the mystery of life,
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19:28 - 19:33then I think it is a little bit easier
for us to think about how we live, -
19:33 - 19:36and how perhaps we're not as special
as we always think we are. -
19:36 - 19:38And I'm going to leave you with that.
-
19:38 - 19:40And thank you very much.
-
19:40 - 19:42(Applause)
- Title:
- Finding life we can't imagine | Christoph Adami | TEDxUIUC
- Description:
-
How do we search for alien life if it's nothing like the life that we know? Christoph Adami shows how he uses his research into artificial life -- self-replicating computer programs -- to find a signature, a "biomarker," that is free of our preconceptions of what life is.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 19:51
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