A school in motion | Teresa Punta | TEDxRíodelaPlata
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0:13 - 0:17Federico is my only son.
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0:17 - 0:20He misbehaved at school since kindergarten
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0:21 - 0:24and since then also,
he wants to drop his studies. -
0:26 - 0:28They called me every week of his life,
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0:29 - 0:32from any level of schooling
he was at the moment, -
0:32 - 0:35to tell me he was misbehaving.
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0:36 - 0:43I'd go and listen stoically
the complaints of the school -
0:43 - 0:51and then back home, I'd scold him
or hug him, alternatively, -
0:51 - 0:58I'd punish him, cry and explain to him
how important it would be for me -
0:58 - 1:02that he stops spitting pieces
of chewed paper -
1:02 - 1:05to the classroom ceiling, tripping
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1:05 - 1:11and later smoking under the tamarisks
or setting up a corn war. -
1:11 - 1:13(Laughter)
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1:13 - 1:17Around the second year of high school,
the school called me again. -
1:18 - 1:21And I went there again.
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1:22 - 1:25The person who spoke with me
on that occasion, a teacher, -
1:25 - 1:28suggested a new alternative
that had occurred to him. -
1:29 - 1:32An extension of Federico's school day
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1:34 - 1:39in which Federico and this teacher,
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1:39 - 1:46were going to clean the barns of the
agricultural school Federico attended -
1:46 - 1:50and meanwhile they were going
to talk for a while; -
1:50 - 1:54they were going to try
that this was not a time -
1:54 - 1:56like the typical school time.
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1:58 - 2:02I think that what Federico learned
in those barn afternoons -
2:03 - 2:06works on him to this day.
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2:07 - 2:14That was the end of the times
at the dinner table -
2:14 - 2:18when the main talk was how bad
Federico was performing at school -
2:18 - 2:20and his desire to abandon it.
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2:22 - 2:27While I was building my relationship
with the school -
2:27 - 2:32as Federico's mother along these lines,
I was becoming a teacher. -
2:33 - 2:37I have been teacher, vice principal
and then principal and supervisor, -
2:38 - 2:41always of public schools
in the province of Chubut. -
2:42 - 2:47And when I was a teacher,
and mostly as a principal, -
2:47 - 2:50I was on the other side of the desk.
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2:50 - 2:54I was as Federico's mom
and the school called me. -
2:54 - 2:59And remembering how I felt when
I was on that side of the desk -
2:59 - 3:00when the school called me,
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3:01 - 3:05it occurred to me to sit
on the same side of the desk -
3:05 - 3:10with the parents when I had to call them
to talk about something. -
3:11 - 3:15Especially, if I imagined that
what I had to tell them -
3:15 - 3:18may not be easy for them to hear.
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3:19 - 3:23This may not be a novel idea,
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3:23 - 3:27but it was like materialization
of this simple idea: -
3:28 - 3:32"we are all on the same side,
to think about the kids." -
3:34 - 3:40When I was already a principal
in a large school with many students -
3:40 - 3:44that had several shifts,
with several levels, -
3:45 - 3:47I met Joaquín.
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3:48 - 3:50Joaquín also behaved poorly.
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3:51 - 3:54And in this case the school
was using one by one, -
3:54 - 3:59all regulatory instances
to get to a suspension. -
3:59 - 4:04We discussed this a lot,
but Joaquín gave us no respite -
4:04 - 4:06and we had our backs against the wall
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4:06 - 4:11at a much higher speed than our
ability to think other options. -
4:12 - 4:15And then the day of suspension came.
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4:16 - 4:20The school suspended him,
and while he was suspended, -
4:20 - 4:23at a time when Joaquín should
have been in school, -
4:24 - 4:28during school hours when
we should've been taking care of Joaquin, -
4:28 - 4:33Joaquin stole a car,
the police caught him, -
4:33 - 4:36Joaquin got scared, ran away in the car,
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4:37 - 4:40crashed and killed himself.
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4:43 - 4:48These two scenes of my life at school,
or with the school, -
4:49 - 4:55Federico and Joaquín, left a mark
in my way of thinking the world -
4:55 - 4:58with school kids forever.
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4:59 - 5:04Because I understood that sitting
with them on the same side of the desk -
5:04 - 5:08to think about life could be the
difference between life and death. -
5:09 - 5:12Sometimes, metaphorically
and sometimes literally. -
5:13 - 5:15(Applause)
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5:22 - 5:26Thinking of Federico
and thinking about Joaquín -
5:26 - 5:32it came to me the idea of a school
that never again rushes or puts aside, -
5:32 - 5:36takes away, expels or suspends,
nor asks for a reduction in hours, -
5:36 - 5:39nor kindly requests to pass
to another school no kid ever. -
5:39 - 5:43(Applause)
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5:46 - 5:50I never wanted to push away again
another kid from school. -
5:50 - 5:54And neither the instances in between
before expelling them. -
5:57 - 6:01When I met her, Nebai was 6 years old.
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6:01 - 6:03She was the smallest of a family
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6:04 - 6:08that lived in a corner
of the Valdés Peninsula -
6:09 - 6:13and with his brothers they jumped
from the cliffs to the sea -
6:13 - 6:17and they would gather in their backpacks
the largest amount of mollusks -
6:17 - 6:22their little hands allowed them
and the air in their lungs. -
6:23 - 6:25One morning I woke up
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6:25 - 6:30and I saw Nebai doing lines
of snails in the sand. -
6:30 - 6:37I came closer and asked her what
was she doing, she answered: "Tens." -
6:39 - 6:47Nebai was in the Valdés Peninsula --
have you ever been there? -
6:47 - 6:49it's declared natural human heritage,
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6:50 - 6:54making lines of ancient shells in the sand
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6:54 - 6:56and calling them tens!
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6:57 - 7:00What an impact the school has, I thought.
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7:01 - 7:05A ten and two loose snails
form this, she told me, -
7:05 - 7:07while drawing it in the sand.
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7:09 - 7:12In fact, every line had 10 snails,
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7:13 - 7:18we made many numbers from tens
and loose snails, -
7:18 - 7:23and Nebai put them together correctly
and wrote them in the sand. -
7:24 - 7:27But I don't know the names,
she'd say to me. -
7:27 - 7:30And the letters either, I don't know
it well. Do you know them? -
7:32 - 7:37I kept thinking about Nebai insistently.
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7:38 - 7:44Nebai can be just an anecdote, of course.
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7:44 - 7:48Sometimes the anecdotes can help us think.
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7:49 - 7:52I think a lot about a phrase that says
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7:52 - 7:55that we have to take care
that our mind doesn't turn into -
7:55 - 7:58a given, closed, already-made mind
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7:58 - 8:01because if that happens,
its activity is over. -
8:03 - 8:07Nebai repeated first grade because
she didn't know the name of the numbers. -
8:09 - 8:14I suggested Nebai's mom
to pass her to our school, -
8:14 - 8:19to see if we could work so that Nebai
would not repeat first grade. -
8:20 - 8:25She replied with a text
several days afterwards: -
8:25 - 8:32"If there's still time, I want to try that
the Nebai doesn't repeat first grade." -
8:32 - 8:35If there is still time, Nebai's
mother was asking. -
8:36 - 8:39Yes, there is still time!
I wanted to answer her. -
8:39 - 8:43Yes, that the school becomes that accent,
that coma, that pause. -
8:43 - 8:47A school that explores ways
to be together, -
8:47 - 8:49that digs in the problems,
that makes them their own. -
8:51 - 8:54(Applause)
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8:59 - 9:00When all these movements
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9:00 - 9:03began at the school
where I was principal, -
9:03 - 9:06several teachers quit at the same time.
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9:06 - 9:10They went to more orderly,
more compliant schools, -
9:11 - 9:14more driven by the curricula
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9:14 - 9:17and comfort, I would say.
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9:17 - 9:22Work licenses and changes of roles
crowded our work days -
9:22 - 9:26and luckily they arrived
to put their body and stamina, -
9:26 - 9:31very young and soon-to-graduate,
Roberta and Marisol -
9:31 - 9:35and Carina, and Silvina,
to put all their intention -
9:35 - 9:39at that school time that came afterwards.
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9:39 - 9:42After Fede, after Joaquín, after Nebai.
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9:43 - 9:47(Applause)
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9:50 - 9:53We wanted to think up ways and experiences
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9:53 - 9:56to include all the kids at school.
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9:56 - 9:58That everyone could be inside.
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9:59 - 10:02To be able to sleep protected
at the principal's office -
10:02 - 10:04or at the school's kitchen
if for some reason -
10:04 - 10:07they had not been able to sleep
at home the night before. -
10:07 - 10:11Or to wander from classroom to classroom
looking for the learning context -
10:11 - 10:13that fits you best.
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10:13 - 10:16To attend school only the months
of the cherry harvest -
10:16 - 10:19or every month except for shearing time,
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10:19 - 10:22are perhaps another stories
I could tell you -
10:22 - 10:24of that time that came afterwards.
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10:25 - 10:28A time that completely drilled
the box of possibilities -
10:28 - 10:32univocally shaped
by traditional school. -
10:33 - 10:37Some teachers said
that in the end it was unfair -
10:37 - 10:39for those who studied
or for those who behaved well -
10:39 - 10:42because then we rewarded them
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10:42 - 10:45giving them the opportunity
of wandering about -
10:45 - 10:48and staying all day with them.
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10:50 - 10:52That it was more work for us
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10:52 - 10:54and that we were much more tired.
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10:55 - 10:58The kids started to stay all day
if they needed to -
10:58 - 11:01and moms had to get organized
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11:01 - 11:04to come assist us at lunchtime.
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11:05 - 11:07The pumpkin puree flowers
drawn with the sleeve -
11:07 - 11:09over mashed potatoes
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11:09 - 11:11or songs to poetically ask the food --
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11:12 - 11:15Laughter and love were born
of that domino effect time -
11:15 - 11:17in which the school started to think
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11:18 - 11:21how to be a school that
could host all the kids. -
11:22 - 11:25It is true that it is much more tiring.
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11:25 - 11:29It's true that sometimes we felt
that we were not prepared for this -
11:30 - 11:33and that our bodies would hurt so much
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11:33 - 11:35that we no longer felt them.
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11:35 - 11:38But there was now a discussion
and an idea installed -
11:38 - 11:41where before there was
hardness and certainty. -
11:42 - 11:45I come across Nebai occasionally
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11:45 - 11:48walking the streets
of the city we live in, -
11:49 - 11:54already going through adolescence,
finishing high school, -
11:54 - 11:57without having repeated
one year of her schooling. -
11:58 - 12:01And also sometimes I run into Ayrton.
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12:01 - 12:05He is a boy we designed activities for
when he attended school -
12:05 - 12:09that would last 45 minutes,
which was his attention span, -
12:09 - 12:12as his educational psychologist
explained to us. -
12:13 - 12:16And now, almost a man,
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12:16 - 12:18he works in his neighborhood's bakery,
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12:18 - 12:2245 minutes kneading,
45 minutes on the counter, -
12:23 - 12:2545 minutes distributing --
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12:25 - 12:27he learned how to drive,
he's got a license -- -
12:27 - 12:3045 minutes wiping the bakery.
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12:31 - 12:35I also run across from time to time
the moms of Alma and Gonzalo, -
12:35 - 12:39who are still friends
since the school proposed them -
12:39 - 12:42that Alma's family
shelters Gonzalo -
12:42 - 12:44the time that his mom
couldn't take care of him -
12:44 - 12:47because she worked and
they were new to the city. -
12:48 - 12:50The academic performance of Gonzalo,
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12:50 - 12:52when Alma's family
started to take care of him, -
12:52 - 12:54improved significantly,
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12:54 - 12:59for those who believe that this is
the fundamental task of the school, -
12:59 - 13:01or of all schools.
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13:01 - 13:03But also those two families
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13:03 - 13:08find one another in this infinite
loop of giving and receiving -
13:08 - 13:11because the school proposed
to look at themselves in a way -
13:11 - 13:14that is not a traditional way
to see each other from school -
13:14 - 13:18The one I bump into the most
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13:18 - 13:20is Federico, my son.
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13:21 - 13:25He has already grown up,
he behaves quite well. -
13:27 - 13:32He is a teacher, he works with children
who behave badly in school. -
13:33 - 13:38(Applause)
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13:38 - 13:41He works with children who have
difficulties to adjust -
13:42 - 13:45to that univocal format that
the school keeps proposing them. -
13:45 - 13:48And I know that this has everything to do
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13:48 - 13:52with that teacher that instead
of throwing him off, -
13:52 - 13:54got him even more time in school,
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13:54 - 13:57with the excuse of cleaning the barns.
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13:58 - 13:59Thank you.
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13:59 - 14:00(Applause)
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14:00 - 14:01Thank you.
- Title:
- A school in motion | Teresa Punta | TEDxRíodelaPlata
- Description:
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Teresa Punta shows us how the school can be transformed from within when teachers and parents are on the same side of the desk. Teresa is a teacher, school principal and supervisor in Chubut province. She was part of the team of technicians of the Ministry of Education of Chubut between 2012 and 2013 in charge of the Teacher Professional Development program. She is the tutor of FLACSO's Postgraduate studies and Specialization in Educational Management. As school principal, Teresa developed a new way to approach the classroom, which includes caring, accompanying and teaching, aiming at each child, each family, and she shares her experience in her book "Signs of life."
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- Spanish
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 14:15
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