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Technology hasn't changed love. Here's why

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    I was recently traveling
    in the Highlands of New Guinea
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    and I was talking with a man
    who had three wives,
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    and I asked him,
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    "How many wives would you like to have?"
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    There was this long pause,
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    and I thought to myself,
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    "Is he going to say five?
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    Is going to say 10?
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    Is he going to say 25?"
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    And he leaned towards me
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    and he whispered, "None."
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    (Laughter)
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    86 percent of human societies permit
    a man to have several wives:
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    polygeny.
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    But in the vast majority
    of these cultures,
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    only about five or 10 percent of men
    actually do have several wives.
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    Having several partners
    can be a toothache.
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    In fact, co-wives can
    fight with each other,
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    sometimes they can even poison
    each others' children.
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    You've got to have a lot of cows,
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    a lot of goats,
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    a lot of money,
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    a lot of land,
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    in order to build a harem.
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    We are a pair-bonding species.
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    97 percent of mammals do not
    pair up to rear their young;
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    human beings do.
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    I'm not suggesting that were not --
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    that we're necessarily sexually
    faithful to our partners.
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    I've looked at adultery in 42 cultures,
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    I [actually] understand
    some the genetics of it
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    and some of the brain circuitry of it.
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    It's very common around the world,
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    but we are build to love.
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    How is technology changing love?
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    I'm going to say,
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    almost not at all.
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    I study the brain.
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    I and my colleagues have put
    over 100 people into a brain scanner --
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    people who had just
    fallen happily in love,
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    people who had just been
    rejected in love
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    and people who are in love long-term.
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    And it is possible
    to remain "in love" long-term.
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    And I've long ago maintained
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    that we've evolved three distinctly
    different brain systems
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    for mating and reproduction.
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    Sex drive,
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    feelings of intense romantic love
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    and feelings of deep cosmic
    attachment to a life-long partner.
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    And together,
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    these three brain systems --
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    with many other parts of the brain --
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    orchestrate our sexual, our romantic
    and our family lives.
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    But they lie way below the cortex,
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    way below the limbic system
    where we feel our emotions,
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    generate our emotions.
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    They lie in the most primitive
    parts of the brain linked with energy,
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    focus,
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    craving,
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    motivation,
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    wanting
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    and drive.
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    In this case,
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    the drive to win life's greatest prize:
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    a mating partner.
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    They evolved over 4.4 million years ago
    among our first ancestors,
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    and they're not going to change
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    if you sweep left of right on Tinder.
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    Audience: Yes!
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    There's no question that technology
    is changing the way we court:
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    emailing, texting,
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    emojis to expressing your emotions,
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    sexting,
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    "liking" a photograph,
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    selfies,
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    we're seeing new rules
    and taboos for how to court.
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    But, you know --
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    is this actually
    dramatically changing love?
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    What about the late 1940s,
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    when the automobile became very popular
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    and we suddenly had rolling bedrooms?
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    (Laughter)
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    How about the introduction
    the of birth control pill?
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    Unchained from the great
    threat of pregnancy and social ruin,
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    women could finally express
    their primitive and primal sexuality.
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    Even dating sites are not changing love.
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    I'm chief scientific
    advisor for Match.com,
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    I've been it for 11 years.
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    I keep telling them --
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    and they agree with me --
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    that these are not dating sites,
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    they are introducing sites.
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    When you sit down in a bar,
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    in a coffee house,
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    on a park bench,
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    your ancient brain snaps into action
    like a sleeping cat awakened
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    and you smile
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    and laugh
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    and listen
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    and parade the way our ancestors
    did 100,000 years ago.
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    (Laughter)
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    We can give you various people --
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    all the dating sites can --
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    but the only real algorithm
    is your own human brain.
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    Technology is not going to change that.
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    Technology is also not going to change
    who you choose to love.
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    I study the biology of personality,
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    and I've come to believe
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    that we've evolved four very broad
    styles of thinking and behaving,
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    linked with the dopamine,
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    seratonin,
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    testosterone and estrogen systems.
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    So I created a questionnaire
    directly from brain science
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    to measure the degree
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    to which you express the traits --
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    the constellation to traits --
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    linked with each
    of these four brain systems.
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    I then put that questionnaire
    on various match dating sites
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    in 40 countries,
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    14 million or more people
    have now taken the questionnaire,
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    and I've been able to watch
    who's naturally drawn to whom.
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    And as it turns out,
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    those who were very expressive
    of the dopamine system --
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    they tend to be curious, creative,
    spontaneous, energetic,
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    I would imagine there's an awful lot
    of people like that in this room --
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    they're drawn to people like themselves.
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    Curious creative people need
    people like themselves.
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    People who are very expressive
    of the seratonin system
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    tend to be traditional, conventional,
    they follow the rules,
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    they respect authority,
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    the tend to be religious --
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    religiousity is in the seratonin system --
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    and traditional people
    go for traditional people.
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    In that way,
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    similarity attracts.
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    In the other two cases,
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    opposites attract.
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    People very expressive
    of the testosterone system
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    tend to be analytical,
    logical, direct, decisive,
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    and they go for their opposite:
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    they go for somebody who's high estrogen,
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    somebody who's got
    very good verbal skills,
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    and people skills,
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    who's very intuitive
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    and who's very nurturing
    and emotionally expressive.
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    We have natural patterns of mate choice.
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    Modern technology is not going
    to change who we choose to love.
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    But technology is producing
    one modern trend
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    that I find particularly important.
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    It's associated with the concept
    of paradox of choice.
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    Millions of years,
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    we lived in little hunting
    and gathering groups.
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    We didn't have the opportunity to choose
    between 1,000 people on a dating site.
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    In fact, I've been studying this recently
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    and I actually think there's some sort
    of sweet spot in the brain,
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    and I don't know what it is,
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    but there's apparently,
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    from reading a lot of the data,
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    we can embrace about five
    to nine alternatives,
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    and after that,
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    we get into what scientists call
    "cognitive overload,"
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    and you don't choose any.
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    So I've come to think that due
    to this cognitive overload,
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    we're ushering in a new
    form of courtship that I call,
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    "slow love."
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    I arrived at this during
    my work with Match.com.
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    Every year for the last six years,
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    we've done a study called
    "Singles in America."
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    We don't poll the Match population,
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    we poll the American population.
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    We use 5,000 plus people,
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    a representative sample of Americans
    based on the US census.
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    We've got data now on over 30,000 people
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    and every single year,
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    I see some of the same patterns.
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    Every single year when I ask the question,
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    over 50 percent of people
    who have had a one-night stand --
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    not necessarily last year
    but in their lives --
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    50 percent have had
    a friends with benefits
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    during the course of their lives,
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    and over 50 percent have lived
    with a person long-term
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    before marrying.
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    Americans think that this is reckless.
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    I had doubted that for a long time,
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    the patterns are too strong,
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    there's got to be some
    Darwinian explanation --
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    not that many people are crazy --
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    and so I stumbled then on a statistic
    that really came home to me.
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    It was a very interesting academic article
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    in which I found that 67 percent
    of singles in America today
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    who are living long-term with somebody,
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    have not yet married
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    because they are terrified of divorce.
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    They're terrified of the social,
    legal, emotional,
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    economic consequences of divorce.
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    So I came to realize that I don't think
    that this is recklessness,
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    I think that it's caution.
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    Today's singles want to know every
    single thing about a partner
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    before they wed.
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    You learn a lot between the sheets:
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    not only about how somebody makes love,
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    but whether they're kind,
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    about whether they can listen,
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    and at age,
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    whether they've got a sense of humor.
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    (Laughter)
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    And in an age where we
    have too many choices,
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    and we have very little fear
    of pregnancy and disease,
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    and we've got no feeling of shame
    for sex before marriage,
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    I think people are taking
    their time to love.
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    And actually what's happening,
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    what we're seeing is a real expansion
    of the pre-commitment stage
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    before you tie the knot.
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    Where marriage used to be
    the beginning of a relationship,
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    now it's the finale.
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    But the human brain --
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    (Laughter)
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    The human brain always triumphs,
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    and indeed in the United States today,
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    86 percent of Americans
    will marry by age 49,
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    and even in cultures around the world
    where they're not marrying as often,
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    they are settling down eventually
    with a long-term partner.
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    So it began to occur to me,
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    during this long extension
    of the pre-commitment stage,
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    if you can get rid of bad relationships
    before you marry,
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    maybe we're going to see
    more happy marriages.
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    So I did a study of 1100
    married people in America --
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    not on Match.com, of course --
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    and I asked them a lot of questions,
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    but one of the questions was,
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    "Would you re-marry the person
    you're currently married to?"
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    And 81 percent said, "yes."
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    In fact, the greatest change
    in modern romance and family life
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    is not technology --
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    it's not even slow love --
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    it's actually women piling into the job
    market in cultures around the world.
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    For millions of years,
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    our ancestors lived in little
    hunting and gathering groups.
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    Women commuted to work
    to gather their fruits and vegetables.
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    They came home with 60 to 80
    percent of the evening meal.
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    The double income family was the rule.
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    And women were regarded as just
    as economically,
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    socially
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    and sexually powerful as men.
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    Then the environment changed
    some 10,000 years ago,
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    we began to settle down on the farm,
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    and both men and women --
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    they became obliged, really --
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    to marry the right person,
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    from the right background,
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    in the right religion
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    and from the right kin and social
    and political connections.
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    Mens jobs became more important:
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    they have to move the rocks,
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    fell the trees,
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    plow the land.
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    They brought the produce off
    to local markets
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    and came home with
    the equivalent of money.
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    And along with this we see
    the rise of a host of beliefs.
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    The belief of virginity at marriage,
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    arragned marriages --
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    strictly arranged marriages --
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    the belief that the man
    is the head of the household,
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    that the wife's place is in the home,
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    and most important:
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    honor thy husband
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    and til death do us part.
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    These are gone.
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    They are going,
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    and in many places,
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    they are gone.
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    We are right now in a marriage revolution.
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    We are shedding 10,000 years
    of our farming tradition
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    and moving forward towards egalitarian
    relationships between the sexes;
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    something that I regard as highly
    compatible with the ancient human spirit.
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    I'm not a Pollyanna;
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    there's a great deal to cry about.
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    I studied divorce in 80 cultures,
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    I studied, as I say, adultery in many --
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    there's a whole pile of problems.
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    As William Butler Yates,
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    the poet once said,
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    "Love is the crooked thing."
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    I would add,
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    "Nobody gets out alive."
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    (Laughter)
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    We all have problems.
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    But in fact,
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    I think the poet Randall Jerrell
    really sums it up best,
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    he said,
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    "The dark uneasy world of family life,
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    where the greatest can fail
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    and the humblest succeed."
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    But I will leave you with this:
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    Love and attachment will prevail,
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    technology cannot change it.
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    And I will conclude by saying
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    that any understanding
    of human relationships
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    must take into account one the most
    powerful determinants of human behavior:
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    the unquenchable,
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    adaptable,
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    and primordial human drive to love.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
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    Kelly Stoetzel: Thank you
    so much for that, Helen.
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    As you know, there's
    another speaker here with us
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    that works in the same field.
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    She comes at it
    from a different perspective.
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    Esther Perel is a psychotherapist
    who works with couples.
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    You study data,
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    Esther studied the stories
    the couples tell her
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    when they come to her for help.
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    Let's have her join us on the stage.
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    Esther?
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    (Applause)
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    So Esther,
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    when you were watching Helen's talk,
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    was there any part of it
    that sort of resonated with you
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    through the lens of your own work
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    that you'd like the comment on?
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    EP: So it's interesting because
    on the one hand,
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    the need for love
    is ubiquitous and universal,
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    but the way we love,
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    the meaning we make out of it,
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    the rules that govern our relationships,
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    I think are changing fundamentally.
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    We come from a model
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    that until now was primarily regulated
    around duty and obligation
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    and the needs for the collective
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    and loyalty.
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    And we have shifted it
    to a model of free choice
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    and individual rights,
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    and self-fulfillment and happiness.
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    And so that was the first thing I thought:
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    is that the need doesn't change,
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    but the context and the way we regulate
    these relationships changes a lot.
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    On the paradox of choice --
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    on the one hand we relish the novelty
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    and the playfulness I think,
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    to be able to have so many options.
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    And at the same time,
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    as you talk about this cognitive overload,
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    I see many, many people who ...
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    who dread the uncertainty and self-doubt
    that comes with this matter of choice,
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    creative a case of "FOMO,"
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    and then leading us --
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    FOMO, fear of missed opportunity,
    or fear of missing out --
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    it's like, "How do I know
    I have found the one?
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    The right one?"
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    So we've created what I call this thing
    of "Stable ambiguity."
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    Stable ambiguity is when
    you are too afraid to be alone,
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    but also not really willing
    to engage in intimacy-building.
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    It's a set of tactics that kind of prolong
    the uncertainty of a relationship
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    but also the uncertainty of the breakup.
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    So here on the Internet
    you have three major ones.
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    One is icing and simmering,
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    which are great stalling tactics
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    that offer a kind of holding pattern
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    that emphasize the undefined
    nature of a relationship,
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    but at the same time give you enough
    of a comforting consistency
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    and enough freedom
    of the undefined boundaries.
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    (Laugther)
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    Yeah?
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    And then comes ghosting.
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    And ghosting is basically,
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    you know, you disappear from
    this matter of texts on the spot
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    and you don't have to deal with the pain
    that you inflict on another
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    because you're making it invisible
    even to yourself.
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    (Laughter)
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    Yeah?
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    So I was thinking --
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    these words came up for me
    as I was listening to you,
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    like how a vocabulary
    creates also a reality,
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    and at the same time,
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    that's my question to you.
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    Do you think when the context changes,
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    it still means that the nature
    of love remains the same?
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    You study the brain and I study peoples'
    relationships and stories,
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    so I think it's everything you say, plus.
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    But I don't always know
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    the degree to which a changing context --
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    does it at some point begin to change,
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    if the meaning changes,
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    does it change the need,
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    or is the need clear
    of the entire context?
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    Helen: Wow.
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    Well, I've got three points here, right?
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    Well first of all to your first one:
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    there's no question that we've changed.
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    That we now want a personal love
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    and that for thousands of years
    we had to marry the right person
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    from the right background
    and the right connection.
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    And in fact,
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    in my studies of 5,000 people every year,
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    I ask them, "What are you looking for?"
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    And every single year of 97 percent
    say --
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    EP: And this grows.
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    HF: The basic thing is
    over 97 percent of people
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    want somebody that respects them,
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    somebody that they
    can trust and confide in,
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    somebody that makes them laugh,
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    somebody who makes enough time for them
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    and somebody who they find
    physically attractive.
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    That never changes.
Title:
Technology hasn't changed love. Here's why
Speaker:
Helen Fisher
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Duration:
19:05
  • The subtitle starting at 16:53 was corrected on 11/21/16.

    "right kin connection" was changed to "right kin connection"

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