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Eyewitness Testimony Part 1

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    >>[Leslie Stahl] It's a
    cliche of courtroom dramas:
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    that moment when the eyewitness
    is asked, "do you see the person
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    who committed the crime here
    in this courtroom before you?"
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    Well, it happens in real
    courtrooms all the time.
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    And to jurors, that point of the
    finger by a confident witness is
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    about as damning as
    evidence can get.
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    But there is one type
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    of evidence that's
    even more persuasive
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    and that, of course, is DNA.
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    There have been 233
    people exonerated by DNA
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    in this country, and now a
    stunning pattern has emerged.
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    More than three quarters of
    them were sent to prison,
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    at least in part, because an
    eyewitness pointed a finger,
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    an eyewitness who we
    now know was wrong.
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    (chirping)
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    It was hot and
    humid in Burlington,
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    North Carolina on the
    night of July 28, 1984.
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    Jennifer Thompson, then a
    22-year-old college student,
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    had gone to bed early in
    her off-campus apartment.
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    As she slept, a man shattered the
    lightbulb near her back door,
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    cut her phone line and broke in.
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    >>[Thompson] I remember kind of waking
    up and turning my head to the side
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    and saying, "who's
    there, who is it?"
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    And I saw the top of
    someone's head kind of
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    sliding beside my mattress.
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    And I screamed and I felt
    a blade go to my throat.
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    >>[Stahl] A knife?
    >>[Thompson] A knife.
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    And he told me to shut up
    or he was going to kill me.
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    >>[Stahl] Her first thought was
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    to offer him anything
    she had to go away.
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    >>[Thompson] You can have my credit
    card, you can have my wallet,
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    you can have anything
    in the apartment.
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    You can have my car.
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    And he looked at me and said,
    "I don't want your money."
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    And I knew what was
    getting ready to happen.
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    >>[Stahl] She vowed to stay
    alert and study him so that
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    if she lived she could
    help put him away forever.
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    >>[Thompson] What is his voice,
    does he have an accent?
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    Does he have a scar?
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    Is there a tattoo?
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    >>[Stahl] He's raping you and
    you're studying his face?
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    >>[Thompson] It was just trying
    to pay attention to a detail
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    that if I survived,
    and that was my plan,
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    I'd be able to help
    the police catch him.
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    >>[Stahl] After about half an hour
    Jennifer tricked the rapist
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    into letting her get
    up and fix him a drink,
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    and she ran out the back door.
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    He fled and raped a second
    woman half a mile away.
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    Detective Mike Gauldin met
    Jennifer at the hospital.
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    >>[Gauldin] The first comment I
    remember her making was that "I'm going
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    to get this guy that
    did this to me."
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    She said "I took the
    time to look at him.
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    I will be able to identify him
    if I'm given an opportunity."
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    >>[Stahl] Detective Gauldin
    worked with Jennifer
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    to make a composite sketch
    pouring over eyes, noses, ears,
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    lips--trying to recreate the
    face she had seen that night.
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    The sketch went out and
    tips started coming in.
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    One of those tips was about a
    young man named Ronald Cotton
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    who worked at a restaurant
    near the scene of both rapes
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    and had a record, a guilty
    plea to breaking and entering,
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    and as a teenager
    to sexual assault.
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    Three days after the rape
    Mike Gauldin called Jennifer in
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    to do a photo lineup.
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    He lay these six pictures
    down on the table,
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    said the perpetrator may
    or may not be one of them,
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    and told her to take her time.
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    Did she say immediately
    "that's him"?
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    >[Gauldin] No. She studied
    each photograph.
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    >>[Thompson] I can remember almost
    feeling like I was in an SAT test
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    where you start narrowing
    down your choices.
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    You can discount A and B.
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    >>[Stahl] Oh, like multiple choice.
    >>[Thompson] Exactly.
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    >>[Stahl] According to the police
    report, Jennifer studied the
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    pictures for five minutes.
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    >>[Gauldin] She picked
    up Ron's photograph
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    and said that's the
    man who raped me.
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    >>[Stahl] And you must have said,
    "Are you sure?" and she said yes?
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    >>[Gauldin] Yeah, oh yes, certainly.
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    >>[Stahl] Ronald Cotton heard the
    news from his mother's boyfriend.
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    >>[Cotton] He told me, he said, "Ron,
    the police are looking for you."
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    And I said for what?
    And he told me for rape.
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    I said I didn't commit
    such a crime like that.
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    >>[Stahl] Did you panic?
    >>[Cotton] I didn't panic.
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    I'm trying to figure out why.
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    >>[Gauldin] He comes in and gives
    me a very detailed account
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    of where he was, who
    he was with that night.
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    As it turns out that
    was a false alibi.
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    >>[Cotton] I realized later that
    I had got my weekends confused,
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    and so therefore I
    gave him the reason
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    to think that I was lying.
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    >>[Stahl] This was August 1, 1984.
    >>[Cotton] Right.
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    >>[Stahl] You go in
    to clear yourself.
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    When did you actually leave?
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    >>[Cotton] I didn't.
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    >>[Stahl] He was locked up and days
    later put in a physical lineup.
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    >>[Cotton] I'm number five.
    >>[Stahl] Are you scared?
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    >>[Cotton] I was very
    scared, nervous.
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    I was so nervous
    I was trembling.
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    You know, I felt my
    body just shaking.
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    >>[Gauldin] They were asked to step
    forward, speak and step back.
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    >>[Thompson] I can remember looking
    to the detective and saying "it's
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    between four and five, can
    I have them do it again?"
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    >>[Stahl] And then she knew it
    was number five, Ronald Cotton.
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    >>[Stahl] Did you feel
    absolutely certain?
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    >>[Thompson] Absolutely certain.
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    >>[Stahl] Did anybody say
    to you, "good job?"
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    >>[Thompson] Well, what was said
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    to me afterwards was, "that's
    the same person you picked
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    out in the photo lineup."
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    So in my mind I thought
    bingo, I did it right.
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    I did it right.
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    >>[Stahl] In a week-long
    trial the jury heard
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    about Ronald Cotton's
    faulty alibi, his clothing
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    that matched Jennifer's
    description,
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    and a piece of foam found on
    her floor that seemed to come
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    from one of his shoes.
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    And most powerfully they
    heard from Jennifer.
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    >>[Stahl] When they ask you, "do you
    recognize the man who did this
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    to you?"--did you point to him?
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    >>[Thompson] Oh, absolutely.
    >>[Stahl] It was Ronald Cotton?
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    >>[Thompson] It was Ronald Cotton.
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    >>[Cotton] She pointed a finger
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    and that's all it
    takes it seemed like.
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    >>[Stahl] What did
    that feel like?
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    >>[Cotton] It felt like someone
    pushing a knife through me.
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    >>[Stahl] It took the
    jury just 40 minutes.
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    The verdict: guilty
    on all counts.
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    >>[Thompson] And he was sentenced
    to life and 50 years.
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    And it was for me that
    moment that you know
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    that the justice system
    works because I am the victim
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    and he is a horrible person
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    and he will never,
    ever be free again.
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    >>[Stahl] Ronald Cotton was
    handcuffed, shackled and taken
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    to North Carolina's
    Central Prison.
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    He was 22-years-old.
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    >>[Cotton] You know they say grown
    men don't cry but that's a lie.
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    I grabbed my pillow many times
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    and hugged it wishing
    I was hugging my mom,
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    my dad, sister, brother.
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    I wish it didn't
    have to be this way.
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    (Background Singing)
    >>[Stahl] He started working
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    in the prison kitchen, singing
    in the choir and writing letter
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    after letter to his attorneys
    hoping to get a new trial.
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    Then one day as he watched
    a new inmate being brought in
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    he had a strange feeling.
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    >>[Cotton] I said, "excuse me,
    you look familiar."
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    I said, "where are you from?"
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    He said, "I'm from Burlington."
    I said, "I am, too."
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    I said, "you kind of resemble the
    drawing of a suspect in a crime
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    of which I'm falsely imprisoned for.
    "Did you commit this crime?"
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    And he told me no he did not.
    >>[Stahl] Wait a sec.
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    You saw him and thought
    of that composite drawing?
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    >>[Cotton] Mmm-hmm.
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    >>[Stahl] His name was Bobby
    Poole, and he was in for rape.
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    He started working in
    the prison kitchen too.
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    >>[Cotton] The stewards were calling
    me Poole instead of Cotton.
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    >>[Stahl] They were
    calling you by his name?
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    >>[Cotton] Yes.
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    >>[Stahl] In other words people
    were mistaking the two of you.
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    >>[Cotton] Yes, exactly.
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    >>[Stahl] Then a fellow
    inmate told him
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    that he'd heard Bobby Poole
    admit to raping Jennifer
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    and the other woman that night.
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    Ronald Cotton won a new trial,
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    and his lawyers called
    Bobby Poole to the stand
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    with Jennifer sitting
    right there.
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    It was the moment Ronald
    Cotton had been hoping for.
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    Bobby Poole is in the courtroom.
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    You look over there.
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    What happens inside you?
    >>[Thompson] Nothing.
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    >>[Stahl] Nothing?
    >>[Thompson] Nothing.
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    As a matter of -- the strongest
    emotion I felt was anger
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    at the defense because
    I thought how dare you?
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    How dare you question me?
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    How dare you try to
    paint me as someone
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    who could possibly have
    forgotten what my rapist looked
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    like, I mean the one person
    you would never forget.
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    How dare you?
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    >>[Stahl] Ronald Cotton was
    convicted again this time given
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    two life sentences.
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    Back in prison seven years later
    he and everyone else was riveted
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    by a big news story, the
    trial of O.J. Simpson.
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    >>[Cotton] I would get my radio
    and put my earplugs in,
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    and go outside, and
    sit in a corner.
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    >>[Stahl] And listen to the trial?
    >>[Cotton] Yeah.
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    >>[Stahl] He was intrigued by
    something he had never heard of: DNA.
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    He wrote to his new attorney,
    law professor Rich Rosen.
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    Rosen warned him that there
    probably wasn't any evidence
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    left to test, and if there
    was, DNA could cut both ways.
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    >>[Rosen] Understand if the
    DNA comes back and shows
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    that you did this crime,
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    whatever legal issues we have
    don't make any bit of difference.
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    You're going to spend the
    rest of your life in prison.
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    >>[Stahl] He warned you that if it
    comes up positive, you're sunk.
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    >>[Cotton] I told him to put his
    foot down and go with it.
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    >>[Stahl] Packed away on the shelves
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    of the Burlington Police
    Department was 10-year-old
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    evidence from the
    two rapes that night.
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    Inside one of the rape
    kits was a fragment
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    of a single sperm
    with viable DNA.
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    It proved what Ronald Cotton
    had been saying all along,
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    he was innocent, and the
    rapist was Bobby Poole.
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    (applause)
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    Within days, Ronald
    Cotton was back in court.
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    >>[judge] You're walking out of
    here today as a free man.
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    >>[Stahl] This time to be released.
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    So not only do you find out
    that Ron didn't do the crime,
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    you find out Bobby Poole did.
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    >>[Gauldin] It was just utter
    shock, really, disbelief.
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    I mean, by this time
    this is 11 years later.
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    And, you know, I know that
    I've been involved in a case
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    where a man has lost
    11 years of his life.
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    And I was so sad for
    him and his family.
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    >>[Stahl] In the years since
    Ronald Cotton's conviction,
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    Jennifer had married
    and had children.
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    Are you the one
    that tells her?
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    >>[Gauldin] Yes. Her reaction
    "no, that can't be true.
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    It's not possible."
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    You know, "I know
    Ronald Cotton raped me.
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    There's no question in my mind."
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    >>[Thompson] It was like someone
    had just taken my life and, like,
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    turned it upside down.
    >>[Stahl] Did she cry?
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    >>[Gauldin] Oh, she cried.
    She broke down.
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    I mean, she took it all on
    herself, you know, the guilt,
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    you know, "I did this
    to that man."
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    >>[Stahl] Shame?
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    >>[Thompson] Shame, terrible shame,
    a suffocating, debilitating shame.
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    >>[Stahl] But when she thought
    or dreamed about that night,
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    it was still Ronald
    Cotton's face she saw.
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    To get past it, she
    asked if he would meet
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    with her at a local church.
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    >>[Thompson] I remember him
    walking into the church,
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    and I physically
    could not stand up.
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    >>[Cotton] She was nervous, scared.
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    >>[Thompson] I started
    to cry immediately.
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    And I looked at him, and I said,
    "Ron, if I spent every second
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    of every minute of
    every hour for the rest
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    of my life telling you how sorry
    I am, it wouldn't come close
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    to how my heart feels.
    I'm so sorry."
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    And Ronald just leaned
    down, he took my hands.
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    >>[Stahl] Oh gosh.
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    >>[Thompson] And he looked at me,
    he said, "I forgive you."
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    >>[Cotton] I told her, I said,
    "Jennifer, I forgive you."
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    "I don't want you to
    look over your shoulder."
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    "I just want us to be
    happy and move on in life."
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    >>[Thompson] The minute
    he forgave me it's
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    like my heart physically
    started to heal.
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    And I thought this is what
    grace and mercy is all about.
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    This is what they teach you in
    church that none of us ever get.
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    And here was this man
    that I had hated with...
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    I mean I used to pray
    every day of my life
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    during those 11 years
    that he would die.
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    That he would be raped in prison
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    and someone would
    kill him in prison.
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    That was my prayer to God.
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    And here was this man who with
    grace and mercy just forgave me.
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    >>[Stahl] That is overwhelming,
    it's overwhelming.
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    >>[Thompson] Yeah, how wrong
    I was and how good he is.
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    >>[Stahl] How is it that Jennifer
    could have studied her rapist
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    so carefully and still
    made this mistake?
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    And how could she have failed
    to recognize Bobby Poole,
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    the actual rapist, when he
    sat right in front of her
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    in the courtroom
    three years later?
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    That part of the story
    when we come back.
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    (Clock Ticking)
Title:
Eyewitness Testimony Part 1
Description:

Lesley Stahl reports on flaws in eyewitness testimony that are at the heart of the DNA exonerations of falsely convicted people like Ronald Cotton, who has now forgiven his accuser, Jennifer Thompson.

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Video Language:
English
Duration:
13:01

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