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What vaccinating vampire bats can teach us about pandemics

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    The story that I'm going
    to tell you today,
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    for me, began back in 2006.
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    That was when I first heard
    about an outbreak of mysterious illness
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    that was happening in the Amazon
    rainforest of Peru.
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    The people that were getting sick
    from this illness,
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    they had horrifying symptoms, nightmarish.
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    They had unbelievable headaches,
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    they couldn't eat or drink.
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    Some of them were even hallucinating --
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    confused and aggressive.
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    The most tragic part of all
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    was that many of the victims
    were children.
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    And of all of those that got sick,
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    none survived.
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    It turned out that what was killing
    people was a virus,
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    but it wasn't Ebola, it wasn't Zika,
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    it wasn't even some new virus
    never-before-seen by science.
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    These people were dying
    of an ancient killer,
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    one that we've known about for centuries.
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    They were dying of rabies.
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    And what all of them had in common
    was that as they slept,
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    they'd all been bitten by the only mammal
    that lives exclusively on a diet of blood:
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    the vampire bat.
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    These sorts of outbreaks
    that jump from bats into people,
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    they've become more and more common
    in the last couple of decades.
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    In 2003, it was SARS.
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    It showed up in Chinese animal markets
    and spread globally.
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    That virus, like the one from Peru,
    was eventually traced back to bats,
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    which have probably harbored it,
    undetected, for centuries.
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    Then, 10 years later, we see Ebola
    showing up in West Africa.
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    and that surprised just about everybody,
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    because according
    to the science at the time,
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    Ebola wasn't really supposed
    to be in West Africa.
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    That ended up causing the largest
    and most widespread Ebola outbreak
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    in history.
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    So there's a disturbing trend here, right?
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    Deadly viruses are appearing in places
    where we can't really expect them,
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    and as a global health community,
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    we're caught on our heels.
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    We're constantly chasing
    after the next viral emergency
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    in this perpetual cycle,
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    always trying to extinguish epidemics
    after they've already started.
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    So with new diseases appearing every year,
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    now is really the time
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    that we need to start thinking
    about what we can do about it.
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    If we just wait for the next
    Ebola to happen,
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    we might not be so lucky next time.
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    We might face a different virus,
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    one that's more deadly,
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    one that spreads better among people,
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    or maybe one that just completely
    outwits our vaccines,
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    leaving us defenseless.
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    So can we anticipate pandemics?
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    Can we stop them?
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    Those are really hard questions to answer,
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    and the reason is that the pandemics --
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    the ones that spread globally,
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    the ones that we really
    want to anticipate --
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    they're actually really rare events.
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    And for us as a species
    that is a good thing --
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    that's why we're all here.
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    But from a scientific standpoint,
    it's a little bit of a problem.
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    That's because if something
    happens just once or twice,
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    that's really not enough
    to find any patterns.
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    Patterns that could tell us when
    or where the next pandemic might strike.
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    So what do we do?
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    Well, I think one of the solutions
    we may have is to study some viruses
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    that routinely jump from wild
    animals into people,
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    or into our pets, or our livestock,
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    even if they're not the same viruses
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    that we think are going
    to cause pandemics.
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    If we can use
    those everyday killer viruses
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    to work out some of the patterns
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    of what drives that initial, crucial jump
    from one species to the next,
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    and, potentially, how we might stop it,
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    then we're going to end up better prepared
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    for those viruses that jump
    between species more rarely
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    but pose a greater threat of pandemics.
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    Now, rabies, as terrible as it is,
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    turns out to be a pretty nice
    virus in this case.
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    You see, rabies is a scary, deadly virus.
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    it has 100 percent fatality.
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    That means if you get infected with rabies
    and you don't get treated early,
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    there's nothing that can be done.
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    There is no cure.
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    You will die.
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    And rabies is not just
    a problem of the past either.
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    Even today, rabies still kills
    50 to 60,000 people every year.
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    Just put that number in some perspective.
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    Imagine the whole West African
    Ebola outbreak --
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    about two-and-a-half years;
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    you condense all the people
    that died in that outbreak
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    into just a single year.
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    That's pretty bad.
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    But then, you multiply it by four,
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    and that's what happens
    with rabies every single year.
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    So what sets rabies apart
    from a virus like Ebola
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    is that when people get it,
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    they tend not to spread it onward.
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    That means that every single time
    a person gets rabies,
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    it's because they were bitten
    by a rabid animal,
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    and usually, that's a dog or a bat.
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    But it also means that those jumps
    between species,
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    which are so important to understand,
    but so rare, for most viruses,
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    for rabies, they're actually
    happening by the thousands.
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    So in a way, rabies
    is almost like the fruit fly
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    or the lab mouse of deadly viruses.
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    This is a virus that we can use
    and study to find patterns
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    and potentially test out new solutions.
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    And so, when I first heard
    about that outbreak of rabies
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    in the Peruvian Amazon,
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    it struck me as something
    potentially powerful,
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    because this was a virus that was jumping
    from bats into other animals
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    often enough that we might
    be able to anticipate it ...
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    Maybe even stop it.
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    So as a first-year graduate student
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    with a vague memory
    of my high school Spanish class,
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    I jumped onto a plane
    and flew off to Peru,
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    looking for vampire bats.
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    And the first couple of years
    of this project were really tough.
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    I had no shortage of ambitious plans
    to rid Latin America of rabies,
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    but at the same time,
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    there seemed to be an equally endless
    supply of mudslides and flat tires,
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    power outages, stomach bugs
    all stopping me.
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    But that was kind of par for the course,
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    working in South America,
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    and to me, it was part of the adventure.
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    But what kept me going
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    was the knowledge that for the first time,
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    the work that I was doing
    might actually have some real impact
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    on people's lives in the short term.
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    And that struck me the most
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    when we actually went out to the Amazon
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    and were trying to catch vampire bats.
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    You see, all we had to do was show up
    at a village and ask around.
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    "Who's been getting bitten
    by a bat lately?"
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    And people raised their hands,
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    because in these communities,
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    getting bitten by a bat
    is an everyday occurrence,
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    happens every day.
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    And so all we had to do
    was go to the right house,
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    open up a net
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    and show up at night,
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    and wait until the bats tried
    to fly in and feed on human blood.
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    So to me, seeing a child with a bite wound
    on his head or blood stains on his sheets,
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    that was more than enough motivation
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    to get past whatever logistical
    or physical headache
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    I happened to be feeling on that day.
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    Since we were working
    all night long, though,
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    I had plenty of time to think about
    how I might actually solve this problem,
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    and it stood out to me
    that there were two burning questions.
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    The first was that we know
    that people are bitten all the time,
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    but rabies outbreaks
    aren't happening all the time --
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    every couple of years,
    maybe even every decade,
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    you get a rabies outbreak.
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    So if we could somehow anticipate
    when and where the next outbreak would be,
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    that would be a real opportunity,
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    meaning we could vaccinate
    people ahead of time,
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    before anybody starts dying.
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    But the other side of that coin
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    is that vaccination
    is really just a Band-Aid.
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    It's kind of a strategy of damage control.
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    Of course it's lifesaving and important
    and we have to do it,
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    but at the end of the day,
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    no matter how many cows,
    how many people we vaccinate,
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    we're still going to have exactly the same
    amount of rabies up there in the bats.
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    The actual risk of getting bitten
    hasn't changed at all.
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    So my second question was this:
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    could we somehow
    cut the virus off at its source?
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    If we could somehow reduce the amount
    of rabies in the bats themselves,
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    then that would be a real game changer.
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    We've been talking about shifting
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    from a strategy of damage control
    to one based on prevention.
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    So, how do we begin to do that?
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    Well, the first thing
    we needed to understand
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    was how this virus actually works
    in its natural host --
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    in the bats.
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    And that is a tall order
    for any infectious disease,
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    particularly one in a reclusive
    species like bats,
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    but we had to start somewhere.
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    So the way we started
    was looking at some historical data.
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    When and where had these outbreaks
    happened in the past?
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    And it became clear
    that rabies was a virus
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    that just had to be on the move.
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    It couldn't sit still.
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    The virus might circulate in one area
    for a year, maybe two,
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    but unless it found a new group of bats
    to infect somewhere else,
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    it was pretty much bound to go extinct.
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    So with that, we solved one key part
    of the rabies transmission challenge.
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    We knew we were dealing
    with a virus on the move,
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    but we still couldn't say
    where it was going.
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    Essentially, what I wanted was
    more of a Google Maps-style prediction,
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    which is, "What's
    the destination of the virus?
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    What's the route it's going
    to take to get there?
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    How fast will it move?"
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    To do that, I turned
    to the genomes of rabies.
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    You see, rabies, like many other viruses,
    has a tiny little genome,
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    but one that evolves
    really, really quickly.
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    So quickly that by the time the virus
    has moved from one point to the next,
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    it's going to have picked up
    a couple of new mutations.
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    And so all we have to do
    is kind of connect the dots
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    across an evolutionary tree,
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    and that's going to tell us
    where the virus has been in the past
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    and how it spread across the landscape.
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    So, I went out and I collected cow brains,
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    because that's where
    you get rabies viruses.
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    And from genome sequences that we got
    from the viruses in those cow brains,
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    I was able to work out
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    that this is a virus that spreads
    between 10 and 20 miles each year.
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    OK, so that means we do now have
    the speed limit of the virus,
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    but still missing that other key part
    of where is it going in the first place.
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    For that, I needed to think
    a little bit more like a bat,
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    because rabies is a virus --
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    it doesn't move by itself,
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    it has to be moved around by its bat host,
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    so I needed to think about
    how far to fly and how often to fly.
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    My imagination didn't get me
    all that far with this
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    and neither did little digital trackers
    that we first tried putting on bats.
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    We just couldn't get
    the information we needed.
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    So instead, we turned
    to the mating patterns of bats.
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    We could look at certain parts
    of the bat genome,
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    and they were telling us that some
    groups of bats were mating with each other
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    and others were more isolated.
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    And the virus was basically following
    the trail laid out by the bat genomes.
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    Yet one of those trails stood out
    as being a little bit surprising --
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    hard to believe.
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    That was one that seemed to cross
    straight over the Peruvian Andes,
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    crossing from the Amazon
    to the Pacific coast,
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    and that was kind of hard to believe,
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    as I said,
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    because the Andes are really tall --
    about 22,000 feet,
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    and that's way too high
    for a vampire to fly.
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    Yet --
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    (Laughter)
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    when we looked more closely,
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    we saw, in the northern part of Peru,
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    a network of valley systems
    that was not quite too tall
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    for the bats on either side
    to be mating with each other.
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    And we looked a little bit more closely --
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    sure enough, there's rabies
    spreading through those valleys,
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    just about 10 miles each year.
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    Basically, exactly as our evolutionary
    models had predicated it would be.
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    What I didn't tell you
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    is that that's actually
    kind of an important thing
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    because rabies had never been seen before
    on the western slopes of the Andes,
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    or on the whole Pacific coast
    of South America,
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    so we were actually witnessing,
    in real time, a historical first invasion
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    into a pretty big part of South America,
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    which raises the key question:
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    "What are we going to do about that?"
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    Well, the obvious short-term
    thing we can do is tell people:
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    you need to vaccinate yourselves,
    vaccinate your animals;
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    rabies is coming.
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    But in the longer term,
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    it would be even more powerful
    if we could use that new information
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    to stop the virus
    from arriving altogether.
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    Of course, we can't just tell bats,
    "Don't fly today,"
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    but maybe we could stop the virus
    from hitching a ride along with the bat.
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    And that brings us to the key lesson
    that we have learned
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    from rabies-management programs
    all around the world,
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    whether it's dogs, foxes,
    skunks, raccoons,
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    North America, Africa, Europe.
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    It's that vaccinating the animal source
    is the only thing that stops rabies.
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    So, can we vaccinate bats?
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    You hear about vaccinating dogs
    and cats all the time,
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    but you don't hear too much
    about vaccinating bats.
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    It might sound like a crazy question,
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    but the good news is that we actually
    already have edible rabies vaccines
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    that are specially designed for bats.
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    And what's even better
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    is that these vaccines
    can actually spread from bat to bat.
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    All you have to do is smear it on one
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    and let the bats' habit
    of grooming each other
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    take care of the rest of the work for you.
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    So that means, at the very least,
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    we don't have to be out there vaccinating
    millions of bats one by one
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    with tiny little syringes.
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    (Laughter)
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    But just because we have that tool
    doesn't mean we know how to use it.
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    Now we have a whole laundry
    list of questions.
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    How many bats do we need to vaccinate?
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    What time of the year
    do we need to be vaccinating?
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    How many times a year
    do we need to be vaccinating?
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    All of these are questions
    that are really fundamental
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    to rolling out any sort
    of vaccination campaign,
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    but they're questions
    that we can't answer in the laboratory.
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    So instead, we're taking
    a slightly more colorful approach.
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    We're using real wild bats,
    but fake vaccines.
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    We use edible gels that make bat hair glow
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    and UV powders that spread between
    bats when they bump into each other,
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    and that's letting us study
    how well a real vaccine might spread
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    in these wild colonies of bats.
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    We're still in the earliest
    phases of this work,
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    but our results so far
    are incredibly encouraging.
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    They're suggesting that using
    the vaccines that we already have,
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    we could potentially drastically reduce
    the size of rabies outbreaks.
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    And that matters, because as you remember,
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    rabies is a virus that always
    has to be on the move,
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    and so every time we reduce
    the size of an outbreak,
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    we're also reducing the chance
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    that the virus makes it
    onto the next colony.
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    We're breaking a link
    in the chain of transmission.
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    And so every time we do that,
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    we're bringing the virus
    one step closer to extinction.
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    And so the thought, for me,
    of a world in the not-too-distant future
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    where we're actually talking
    about getting rid of rabies altogether,
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    that is incredibly
    encouraging and exciting.
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    So let me return to the original question.
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    Can we prevent pandemics?
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    Well, there is no silver-bullet
    solution to this problem,
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    but my experiences with rabies
    have left me pretty optimistic about it.
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    I think we're not too far from a future
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    where we're going to have genomics
    to forecast outbreaks
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    and we're going to have clever,
    new technologies
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    like edible, self-spreading vaccines
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    that can get rid of these
    viruses at their source
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    before they have a chance
    to jump into people.
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    So when it comes to fighting pandemics,
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    the holy grail is just to get
    one step ahead.
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    And if you ask me,
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    I think one of the ways
    that we can do that
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    is using some of the problems
    that we already have now,
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    like rabies --
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    sort of the way an astronaut
    might use a flight simulator,
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    figuring out what works and what doesn't,
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    and building up our tool set
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    so that when the stakes are high,
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    we're not flying blind.
  • 15:21 - 15:22
    Thank you.
  • 15:22 - 15:26
    (Applause)
Title:
What vaccinating vampire bats can teach us about pandemics
Speaker:
Daniel Streicker
Description:

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
15:39

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