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Thanks a lot for the invitation.
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It's definitely not my time of the day so
excuse me if I'm a little bit…
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Right, next the track.
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I'm always really happy to speak
in front of people
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who are dealing with IT and stuff
because I'm so much not an IT person.
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You saw that I wasn't even able to start
my presentation alone.
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I'm from CADUS.
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CADUS is a humanitarian NGO that was
founded 3 years ago in Berlin.
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It was founded out of a kind of subculture
that is strongly related to the CCC, but
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to the musical and festival subculture
as well.
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What I want to talk about today is
our crisis response makerspace in Berlin.
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Holger (Levsen) invited me after we saw
each other again at Datengarten in Berlin
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and he asked if I can make the presentation
in english as well.
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My english is shit, so please excuse me if
I have to search some words
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from time to time.
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Do you have an idea
what this is?
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It's a huge truck, it's a medical sign
on it, so this is a kind of mobile hospital.
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Mobile hospital which you can use if
other hospitals are broken down
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or if there are no hospitals.
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Do you have an idea how much
such an hospital would cost you
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to buy?
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3 millions, 2 millions, 3 millions,
4 millions, hum…
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This is a picture of a destroyed hospital
in Syria.
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You all see a lot of pictures on the TV,
stuff like that.
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Can you relate these 3 to 4 millions
mobile hospitals
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to these destroyed hospitals.
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Do you normally see in the media that
if a hospital is destroyed
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then this fancy stuff is deployed
to there?
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Do you have an idea why?
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It's "fucking expensive"?
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Something more?
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"Who's gonna pay for it?"
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"Is help wanted?"
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More?
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It is a question of safety from time
to time.
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But on top you have to imagine Syria,
war country, dust, heat,
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no supply chain, nothing like that, so
bringing there
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a 4 million mobile hospital might end in
two weeks of working and after that
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nothing is working anymore because
you don't have the technicians
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who can repair this kind of stuff
for example.
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Next example, I'm sure you know.
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What it is is a pretty fancy fire truck.
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You have them in Germany
in all the bigger villages and
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all the cities, stuff like that.
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If you take a look inside this firetruck,
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you see plenty of fancy stuff.
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I love this stuff, there is stuff to put
out fire, there's stuff to lift things
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with hydrolics.
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There is normal stuff like shovels and
stuff like that.
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But if you relate this to pictures
in disaster areas,
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this is from Haiti, then you see that
you have plenty of people
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but no equipment at all.
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All's pretty clear because normally,
after a disaster,
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people from all over the world come
as fast as possible to the disaster area
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the so-called "urban search and rescue
teams".
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They're coming by plane, so
all the fancy stuff that we have
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in our societies stays here,
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and a few people that typically
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go to the disaster areas to help
the poor people.
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You understand this was cynical.
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And there's a third example.
Have you ever seen what this is?
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This is a tourniquet.
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A tourniquet is one meter of nylon strap
and a little bit of plastic.
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A tourniquet is the best way to stop
severe bleeding immediately.
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We know this since the second world war.
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At least it's twenty years
it's totally clear and
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it's validated, this is the best way to
stop severe bleeding.
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Spoiler, you won't see this in the media
if you see like people in Syria getting hurt
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like losing legs after explosions and
stuff like that.
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Do you have an idea how expensive is
such a thing?
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One meter of nylon, a little piece
of plastic?
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Not so expensive, but it goes in
that direction:
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55 dollars for one of these.
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55 dollars for fucking one meter
of nylon strap.
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And, I don't know, less than 10g
of plastic.
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The last example, I don't know if you have
a pet.
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I had a dog, if I would like to,
I could add a GPS to my dog
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and this GPS would say when my dog
is sleeping, where my dog is,
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where I can find my dog if it's gone,
stuff like that.
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But again if you went Haiti directly after
the earthquake,
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people search for other people in
collapsed building
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with their bare hands.
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So, obviously, we have a lot of
technical solutions for everything.
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I can look for my fucking dog in Hamburg
where it is via my app on my iPhone
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but on the other hand, in a disaster area
it's not even possible to search for
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people who are buried in collapsed buildings.
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There are several reasons for that.
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One reason: humanitarian work,
humanitarian aid is a market.
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This is a little bit perverted but
it is a market.
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It's always a question.
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It's not like "Who wants to aid?" but
"Who pays for the help?".
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"Who gets his share out of the ??? ?"
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And you can imagine we have, I don't know,
every two or three years a major earthquake
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so the market, if you compare it to
another business market, is pretty small.
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Who cares for the 1000, 2000, 3000 people
who die in the earthquake every 3 years?
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The next thing: access to the market.
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Is it possible to bring things to Syria?
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Why should I develop, as a businessman
in capitalism,
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why should I develop something if I can't
reach my market easily?
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And the third thing: who are the players
on the market.
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In humanitarian aid, most players are NGOs.
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NGOs are not really interested in
developing new things because
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if I have an NGO, a classical NGO, then
I like the things how they are.
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If there is a disaster, I send my people,
I make some nice pictures for the media
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and I get a little of donations.
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I'm not interested in changing things.
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If I would like building capacity and
local communities
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so much that they don't need me anymore
after disasters,
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then there's no need for my nice wide
NGO anymore.
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So, these three things together make
the situation where you have
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a lot of solutions in our communities
and in our societies
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but you have no possibility to bring this
to disaster aid.
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We started in 2014 in northern Syria
more or less by accident.
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We were asked if we could come
with a political delegation and make
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an overview of the medical infrastructure.
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And ever since we were stuck
in this region
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because we saw no NGOs working there,
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because the states were not really willing
to pay money for that,
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because the northern, north-east Syria
is ruled by some Kurdish militias
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and these Kurdish militias are too lefty
to get money from states,
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let's say it this way.
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So we saw the situation there and
we still had 4-wheel driven truck
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here in Germany and we said
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"This would be great if we just built
out of this truck a mobile hospital."
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We had no idea how to do this,
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we were really a little bit naive
in these times.
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We said just like
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"It's a nice truck, there's a lot of space
in that truck, so let's build it."
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"We have an idea, we have a fantasy.
We will go with this truck to northern Syria
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then we will give it to a local NGO and
then they have a mobile hospital
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to follow the front lines in their fight
against the so-called islamic state."
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And one year and a half, two years later,
we really were in nothern Iraq,
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not northern Syria so far, but in
northern Iraq with our mobile hospital.
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And it was pretty hard to cross a border
to Syria so we had to stay in northern Iraq
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So we asked to WHO, the World Health
Organisation,
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"What can we do right now? We are here,
we have a mobile hospital.
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Do you see any need for us?"
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And they said
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"Yeah, guys, if you'd like to, then
we would like to send you to Mossoul."
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I don't know if you saw in the media,
last year,
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the battle of Mossoul was one of the most
bloody and the most shitty battle
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that we had in the past 20, 30 years,
I think.
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It was a lot civilian casualties and
we said
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"Ok, let's try. We built this mobile
hospital, let's see if it's working."
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We were able to work, like, 1.5km
behind the frontline with the islamic state
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and we were really wondering, we were
really surprised, because we saw that
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nobody else was working there, because
they just didn't have the equipment for that
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??? easier to buy a mobile hospital
for 3-4 million dollars
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nobody had that, and other things
were not available on the market
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so we were the only ones working there
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Over the few months that we worked
directly at the front line,
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we treated several thousands people
with this.
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This was actually the moment when
the crisis response makerspace was born.
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So it was not planned that build up
this makerspace, it was just like
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we had two workshops in Berlin where
we fixed the truck
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where we renovated the truck and
stuff like that.
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After we went to Iraq, we just thought
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"This was a pretty good idea and
it worked out pretty well."
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We were sure there were more problems
that had to be solved in humanitarian crisis.
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Actually, this first mobile hospital went
over the border to Syria one week ago
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so it is on ??? should have gone too.
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What we're doing at the moment.
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We have some lessons learned from
this first mobile hospital and
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we're developing a second mobile hospital
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because the first one was based on
old trucks that we could get really cheap
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in Germany, but our idea was always
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we would like to create opensource
blueprints for local NGOs,
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so that they can copy our solution
that we developed.
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With these german trucks, it's not really
easy, we can't to an NGO in the Middle East
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and say "Look, this is how we build it"
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because they can't get the hand on
these german trucks
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So now we use UC containers because
you can get them everywhere in the world,
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they are unbelievably cheap, you can get
them for 2,500€ and
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at the moment in Berlin we are building
something like this.
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It's not to work inside the containers but
to have an inflatable tent structure
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coming out of the container and then
you have your 20 treatment places and
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we're working on different solutions that
are not existing at the moment
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like this patient treatment places are
based on flight cases
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and stuff like this
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We try to bring together our experiences
from the musical subculture
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from organizing festivals, from building
up structures pretty fast
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and empty rooms and stuff like that
together with this humanitarian problems.
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Another problem that I had at the beginning
was the firetruck,
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when I said "no firetruck in disaster
areas" and we thought
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"We can get our hands on these firetrucks"
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This firetruck is basically just a truck
with a good solution about
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how to store your equipment
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so that you can use your equipment
when it's still on the truck
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and you have your engine running and
you have electricity and stuff like that.
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We were thinking "Ok, you don't need
this firetruck, you just need
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a box system that you can bring with
normal appliances to disaster areas
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and then put them on normal pick-ups,
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pick-ups you find all over the world.
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For this we would need a kind of
box system that you can connect and
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three angles.
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We took a look at the market, and again,
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it's not necessary normally, to have
something like this.
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Nobody developed this, meaning that you can
load these boxes with up to 200kg.
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We developed a new kind of box. It won't
have the name CAbox in the future,
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but we couldn't find another.
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This box is a modular system.
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We try to work together with universities,
this was together with the HTW in Berlin.
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This is how things are done with us, we
have first an idea, like
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"How can we cut a firetruck in pieces,
bring it to a disaster area and
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put it together again?"
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and out of this process are coming
more and more ideas.
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We thought "Perhaps it's not only
connecting these boxes,
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perhaps it's an idea to make it in
a modular way because then,
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you can define, for every side of the box
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a special use, like for example photovoltaic
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and now we have a box developed
that you can put in a normal airplane,
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bring to a disaster area, just ???
these boxes, these sides of the boxes
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and get electricity, for example inside
a water pump or something like that.
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We then thought about "Ok, but how
can we get into the disaster areas
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if there are lots of blocks"
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We saw this in the ???
of the earthquake,
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we saw this on Puerto Rico last year
after the typhoon,
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that the help couldn't reach the island
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We thought that it's not so difficult
to throw things out of airplanes.
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So again, we took a look at the market
and said
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"Wow, no civilian solutions to throw
huge payloads out of aircrafts."
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The solutions on the market are
military solutions.
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So the UN can use it, but normally
it's up to the national military
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who can use it.
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The only solution we could find was
a box system coming
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from an english company
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and with this box, you can throw, I think,
up to 70kg but only things that can't break
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you can't throw out medical instruments
with this.
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So, what we did, we called again,
we looked for
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who could be the best person to talk
with us about something like that.
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And we thought, it's not the military,
obviously, because
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they're thinking bigger scales, they're
thinking endless money,
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they're thinking endless logistics
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So we got together with paragliders
from Switzerland.
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We met with the refugee response
in the Mediterranean
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and told them "We would like
to throw things out of airplanes.
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What do you think about it?"
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They said "Why not? We are jumping
out of airplanes all the time!"
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So why should it be so difficult?
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What came out is that every paraglider
which goes down a mountain
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in Switzerland, frequently, daily, has
an emergency parachute
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in his powerglide.
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And this emergency parachute has to be
renewed every 3 years,
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not because it's broken, but because we're
living in a rich society and insurances say
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"If you don't do this, I won't insure you."
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So, you have plenty, hundreds, thousands
of used parachutes that are totally ok
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And you can hang, obviously, more than
100kg on them.
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Then you have these tandem parachutes,
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you can obviously hang more than 250kg
on them.
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So, what we did, totally illegal,
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we tried it out and threw some things
from really high bridges in Switzerland
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with these parachutes.
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And then we saw "yeah, it's
functioning."
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Next thing was that we developed
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a kind of absorption with carton
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and the funny thing when we went
to Switzerland and said to the officials
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"Yeah, you know, we're a bunch of
punk rock idiots working in
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humanitarian aid but we have this idea,
we could throw things
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out of normal parachuting machines,
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because you can find them all over
the world,
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because all over the world,
people do this sport.
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And it's pretty cheap, and we could reach
valleys that are not reachable yet".
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They said
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"Do you know what the problem is?
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Every country has to have this air drop
capacity."
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This is like, I don't know, regularly
from the international air travel something
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and they said "We, in Switzerland,
we solve this again with the military.
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We have to pay like 24,000€ an hour
to do this because we do this
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with helicopters.
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You offer us a solution that, if it's
working out, is working with
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2,000€ an hour."
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So they said "If your system is working,
you will be immediately assigned
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as an official humanitarian air drop
capacity in Switzerland."
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We started 1.5 years ago and then
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what's called ???
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building in Berlin to renew old trucks
to bring to Northern Syria
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and then we thought "Let's use this space,
let's look for solutions
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for humanitarian problems."
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And the idea was, in the beginning, just
to bring together nerds, geeks, people
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out of the field, refugees who know best
what will help them in the crises,
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specialists, universities, stuff like that.
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What started like "Let's see
if it could happen."
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comes out as, this year in July, we will
throw out some boxes with parachutes
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out of airplanes and we'll perhaps have
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the first worldwide airborne emergency
response unit.
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So, yes, we saw there is a big need
for these things.
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At the moment, we don't have a lot of
IT projects, we have some ideas and
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we would like to grow our network,
because we have nerds from the CCC
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sitting around there, but at the moment
they ??? to do something with ???
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but this makerspace is a makerspace like
you know it.
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You have an open space, everybody could
come in.
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We have only the regular ???
and we say
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"Everything that is developed should be
with a focus on humanitarian aid and
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everything that we develop has to be
open source
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so that people can use it worldwide."
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If you would like to get in contact
with us,
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www.cadus.org
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We have all this fancy stuff like facebook,
twitter and that you can find
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on the homepage.
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Thank you very much for your attention.
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Are there questions?
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[Q] Hi, thank you for the talk. I'm not sure
if you know about an organization,
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I think it's only french at the moment,
which is called HAND, which is
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Hackers Against Natural Disasters
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It's basically a non-profit which tries
to help local populations
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in case of natural disasters, mostly
they were in ??? for the typhoon
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in french islands in the Carribean
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and they tried to set up some kind of
infrastructures, IT infrastructures.
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There are ham radios and they tried to
set up internet and stuff like that so
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people can actually use communications
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and they tried to set up like 3G networks.
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I think it's only french but they have
a great,
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I don't know a lot about them, but I think
they have a quite hacker spirit.
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??? cooperation with you.
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[A] This is really perfect, thank you
very much.
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There are actually a lot of groups
like this worldwide.
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For example, we are now part of the GIG,
the Global Innovation Gathering which are
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50 maker spaces all over the world.
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There are small organizations that are
really interesting.
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The problem is, it's hard to find
your space in this humanitarian world
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because big organizations really
close down the access to this,
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the access to big amounts of money,
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so contacts are always welcome because
I think we can only reach something
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if we form better and bigger networks.
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[Q] In areas of crisis, and especially
in war, it's hard to understand
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which interests are on which side or
are there any goods in this.
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How to you avoid to become
a useful idiot?
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[A] I think…
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I don't avoid it and humanitarians are
a kind of useful idiots.
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In the humanitarian sector, there are
two main pictures about
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humanitarian aid.
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It was Henri Dunant who founded
the red cross, who said like
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"Yes, there is a war. Yes, obviously
these are assholes that shoot at each other
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but in the end they're humans.
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So once they're laying down on the floor,
they deserve to be treated like humans.
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I know that if I treat him and
he's fit again,
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perhaps he goes out again and
shoots again."
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And there was the other person,
Florence Nightingale at the same time.
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She said, like, "Humanitarian aid
should mean 'only these people
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get humanitarian aid who bond themselves
to these humanitarian principles'.
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So, a soldier that got shot down, I won't
treat him if I'm not sure
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that he won't go out again."
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In the meanwhile, I think the humanitarian
world stuck totally to the model of Dunant
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and for us it's the same.
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I treated people who fought ISIS
in Mossoul definitely.
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Because in my opinion, if I go there
and say
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"I am the medic and the judge at the same
time", then it's really strange.
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There have to be other people to judge
over this.
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As a humanitarian, you are little bit
helpful idiot all the way.
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The other discussion is definitely
a question about
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if humanitarian aid brings anything or
if it's just like a machine
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that tries to run itself again and again
and again…
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Like this help industry.
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This, we try to avoid with not playing
after the same rules.
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We are not into, I don't know.
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Every 2 or 3 years there is a new theme
that you have to surf.
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For example, now it's capacity building
in war zones.
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We think it's pretty easy, we don't have
to follow these rules of
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the humanitarian sector, the humanitarian
market.
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We stuck with the humanitarian ideals
and we always try to work together
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with the locals.
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And, yes, for sure, you always have locals
who try to have their share
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out of these crises, but if you talk
to the locals, talk to different locals
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several organizations together, you will
see who's really working on the ground
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just to help the people and we try to
support these.
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Like I said, we don't produce or develop
solutions that we can sell.
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It's all open source, so I hope it helps
to avoid a little bit
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to support the wrong people.
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Any further questions?
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[Q] Hi, awesome work. Have you considered
3D printing to maybe come up with
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spare parts or let…
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[A] Sorry, again?
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[Q] Have you considered 3D printing?
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[A] Yes, there are actually organizations
who are doing this.
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There one really cool organization
called Field Ready.
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They're developing a database with
a lot of things like
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the small thing you need to stop the
connection between a mother
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and a baby, I don't know what the name
is in english.
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And they develop a database so that
people can print these medical devices
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in disaster areas, that's pretty cool.
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At some moments, we tried, a few months ago
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to get our hands on 3D printers but then
it's so expensive at the moment and
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we are just more experienced with metal
and steel and stuff like that.
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But we looked into this and at the moment
we're always doing too much unfortunately.
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I wanted to buy one and then our colleagues
from CCC said
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"Don't do that, you're not clever enough",
so…
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"You'll destroy it! Waste money!"
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But actually, for the tourniquet for example
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there is a solution as well for 3D printing.
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I just read an article a few days ago.
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I think 3D printing is a kind of…
really close connected
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to the future of humanitarian aid,
definitely.
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Any further questions?
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[Q] It's less question, more comment.
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Because you showed that we have these
cool sexy solutions for technology
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for finding dogs and in less developed
countries we have problems, but
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it's also, like, we have problems with
disasters in all the world.
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Look at what happened in New Orleans,
look at what is still happening
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in Puerto Rico, which is supposedly
first world country, but has still
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problems with electricity.
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It's not that there are good countries
and bad countries, but we have
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problems with all those global solutions
to recover.
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I think that's a good approach to get
local people to organize and
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to try to solve because they know
what is needed most.
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[A] Totally. I think it's a fucked up thing
about capitalism.
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If I live in a nice decent city like
Hamburg and I have a dog,
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I will easily spend 10€ a month for an app
to find my dog, but I don't relate
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to the thing that I could be on a zone
rubbish as well,
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so I won't pay for a disaster app or
something like that
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because it's not part of my daily life.
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So no company will be willing to develop
something like this,
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it's just like the rules of the market.
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Silly but it is what it is.
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Thank you very much for your attention.
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Thanks a lot Sebastian again.
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