1/6.Chouard.Metz.oct2011-ENJEUX CONSTITUTION
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0:17 - 0:19We are pleased, here with ATTAC,
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0:19 - 0:21to welcome Etienne Chouard
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0:21 - 0:24for a conference with an utopian title:
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0:24 - 0:27European Union, if we had to do it again?
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0:27 - 0:29Etienne Chouard is a teacher
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0:29 - 0:31of Law and Economics in Marseille.
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0:31 - 0:33He is also an independent researcher,
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0:33 - 0:35and he feed his thoughts with debates
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0:35 - 0:38which took place in 2005
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0:38 - 0:41during the European Constitutional Treaty.
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0:41 - 0:46The possibility to say "no" to that treaty, to this constitution
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0:46 - 0:49made him study it thouroughly,
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0:49 - 0:53and then reveal all the wrongdoings of this constitution,
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0:53 - 0:55which, he says, was done
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0:55 - 0:57not for the people,
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0:57 - 0:59but for those who wrote it,
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0:59 - 1:01and who governs us.
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1:01 - 1:03Tonight, he will present
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1:03 - 1:05his vision of the European Union,
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1:05 - 1:07Of democracy and what it means.
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1:07 - 1:10We will also discuss
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1:10 - 1:13the theme of money creation
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1:13 - 1:16Question the need for a constitutional treaty.
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1:16 - 1:18And evoke
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1:18 - 1:21a new and original process:
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1:21 - 1:22that is selected by lot
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1:22 - 1:25in order to elect our representatives.
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1:25 - 1:27Before giving the mic to Etienne,
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1:27 - 1:30I want to thank the City Hall
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1:30 - 1:33for giving us this conference room.
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1:33 - 1:35And thanks to Etienne
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1:35 - 1:38who is not paid to be here.
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1:38 - 1:44This conference will last
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1:44 - 1:46until around 10 PM.
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1:46 - 1:48So, we will have a first part,
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1:48 - 1:49until 7.30PM,
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1:49 - 1:51To talk about different points.
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1:51 - 1:53Then we will make a short break.
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1:53 - 1:56It's possible to get food nearby.
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1:56 - 1:58And we'll come back
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1:58 - 2:01at 8 to continue the debate.
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2:01 - 2:05Now, Etienne will take the stage.
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2:05 - 2:08Can you hear me?
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2:08 - 2:12I should lean closer to this thing...
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2:12 - 2:15Can you hear me?
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2:15 - 2:19Good evening, everyone.
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2:22 - 2:27I have a strong idea to get us out of this mess.
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2:27 - 2:30I'm here to talk about it.
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2:30 - 2:33I woke up 6 years ago
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2:33 - 2:35during the debate for the
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2:35 - 2:37European anticonstitutional treaty
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2:37 - 2:39which was suggested in 2005.
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2:39 - 2:41I say anticonstituational
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2:41 - 2:43because it serves, once well studied,
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2:43 - 2:47it serves to destroy our national constitutions.
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2:47 - 2:49And, it works well.
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2:49 - 2:52It's a system that works.
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2:52 - 2:53And, since then,
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2:54 - 2:56since I woke up
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2:56 - 2:59I remained awake,
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2:59 - 3:02and I'm thinking about what might
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3:02 - 3:04protect human beings
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3:04 - 3:07against abuses of power.
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3:07 - 3:08So I read a lot.
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3:08 - 3:11The more I read, the more I want to read.
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3:11 - 3:13It's becoming a reading frenzy.
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3:13 - 3:15And at the same time, I am discovering.
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3:15 - 3:16something useful. I'm finding,
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3:16 - 3:17in the history of men,
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3:17 - 3:19in the history of human thinking,
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3:19 - 3:21I find that men
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3:21 - 3:24have had problems with powers for a long time.
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3:24 - 3:25I find that men
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3:25 - 3:27need (ruling) powers
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3:27 - 3:29when we live in a society.
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3:29 - 3:33We need to delegate some powers.
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3:33 - 3:37And the men to whom we give the power to,
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3:37 - 3:38have always been changing.
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3:38 - 3:41They transform in a bad way.
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3:41 - 3:43So I find by reading,
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3:43 - 3:45that since Aristotle and the Athenian era,
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3:45 - 3:47- I'll talk a lot about Athens tonight
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3:47 - 3:49especially in the second part -
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3:49 - 3:51I find that...
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3:51 - 3:55men have developed means
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3:55 - 3:58to protect themselves from power abuses.
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3:58 - 4:01Very clever means.
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4:01 - 4:04Often thwarted by those
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4:04 - 4:07I call "power thiefs".
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4:07 - 4:10But...
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4:10 - 4:12It's not set in stone.
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4:12 - 4:13Today,
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4:13 - 4:15we are governed by people
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4:15 - 4:17abusing of their (ruling) powers.
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4:17 - 4:18I think the current situation
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4:18 - 4:19really allows for....
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4:19 - 4:21It is a caricature today.
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4:21 - 4:22Those who don't see
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4:22 - 4:23that those in power abuse
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4:23 - 4:25are completely blind.
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4:25 - 4:28But I think everyone sees that.
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4:28 - 4:30Room question : Who are you talking about?
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4:30 - 4:32The people who are in power.
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4:32 - 4:34Members of the Parliament,
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4:34 - 4:37Ministers, they all make decisions.
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4:37 - 4:41Without any means for,
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4:41 - 4:47the people's discontent to materialize.
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4:47 - 4:51I think it's clear enough.
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4:54 - 4:59The main tool that humans created
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4:59 - 5:03that has been used since Athens,
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5:03 - 5:05is called the Constitution.
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5:05 - 5:08It's the rule of law.
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5:08 - 5:10The law allowed for
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5:10 - 5:12societies to be pacified.
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5:12 - 5:16Our representatives,
to whom we give the right -
5:16 - 5:19to write the law,
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5:19 - 5:22to whom we give the power
to write the law, -
5:22 - 5:24are, by definition,
because they can write the rules, -
5:24 - 5:25they are dangerous.
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5:25 - 5:30And the constitution is used to...
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5:30 - 5:32to limit their power.
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5:32 - 5:34To weaken their power.
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5:34 - 5:38A constitution is used to protect
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5:38 - 5:41those who consent to obey the laws.
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5:42 - 5:45It is used to protect them
from the abuses of those -
5:45 - 5:48who have the right
to write the rules and the law. -
5:48 - 5:51And so, this is an important
and clever text. -
5:51 - 5:54In fact, when we talk about
the constitution, -
5:54 - 5:56we talk about the law of the law.
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5:56 - 5:58It is a law which is above
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5:58 - 6:00those who make the law.
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6:00 - 6:03It's a superior law.
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6:03 - 6:04It's more than a law.
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6:04 - 6:08It's more than politics,
it's philosophical politics. -
6:08 - 6:11And it concerns us all directly.
All of us. -
6:11 - 6:14It concerns us very directly.
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6:14 - 6:18We should learn what a constitution is,
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6:18 - 6:20from a very early age.
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6:20 - 6:22We should know our constitution
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6:22 - 6:24by heart.
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6:24 - 6:28And we should protect our constitution.
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6:29 - 6:31As if it were the best protection
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6:31 - 6:34against all sorts of dominations
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6:34 - 6:38which might attack us.
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6:40 - 6:42Oddly enough though,
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6:42 - 6:45people don't care about
the constitution at all. -
6:45 - 6:46They ignore it.
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6:46 - 6:48They've heard the word,
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6:48 - 6:50but they don't know what it means,
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6:50 - 6:52what it's for,
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6:52 - 6:53how it works.
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6:53 - 6:55They don't know what's in it.
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6:55 - 6:57And I think that it is...
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6:58 - 6:59I'll get back to that,
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6:59 - 7:01but I think it's the cause of causes.
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7:01 - 7:03You'll see that I'm looking for,
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7:03 - 7:05in my various subjects,
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7:05 - 7:07which I think about
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7:07 - 7:10while I'm on this kind of quest,
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7:10 - 7:14the quest to resist against
abuse of power. -
7:14 - 7:15The main method which ...
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7:15 - 7:18which I am following is...
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7:18 - 7:20I'm looking for the cause of causes,
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7:20 - 7:22as Herodotus suggested.
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7:22 - 7:24I'm looking for the cause of causes,
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7:24 - 7:26and it's true that it works well.
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7:26 - 7:29When you want to solve a problem,
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7:29 - 7:31try to find (a solution) through...
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7:31 - 7:34Everything is multifactorial.
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7:34 - 7:36Every phenomena has several causes, but,
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7:36 - 7:40if you manage to find
the determining causes, -
7:40 - 7:42by this I mean the causes
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7:42 - 7:44that lead to other causes
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7:44 - 7:46The primordial causes,
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7:46 - 7:48and even better, if you find
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7:48 - 7:50one cause particularly important,
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7:50 - 7:55by thinking about this one cause,
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7:55 - 7:57you solve many problems at once.
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7:57 - 7:58It's more intelligent
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7:58 - 8:00than treating the consequences.
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8:00 - 8:01But from what I see,
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8:01 - 8:03the people who came
before my wake up call, -
8:03 - 8:05while I was still a passive citizen,
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8:05 - 8:07all the old resistants,
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8:07 - 8:09those who spent
most of their lives resisting -
8:09 - 8:11very often, they resisted
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8:11 - 8:13focusing on the consequences.
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8:13 - 8:14Some resists
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8:14 - 8:16against ecological disasters.
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8:16 - 8:20Others against
the lack of democracy at work. -
8:20 - 8:24Others against the corruption
of the government. -
8:24 - 8:28There are associations, movements...
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8:28 - 8:32Some are against nuclear plants,
for example. -
8:32 - 8:34Etc...
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8:36 - 8:39And, I think,
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8:39 - 8:43- I'm like everyone else,
I have my own pet subject - -
8:43 - 8:45but I think that,
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8:45 - 8:49all those social injustices,
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8:49 - 8:51have one common cause,
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8:51 - 8:53which is the abuse of power.
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8:53 - 8:55I mean the possibility
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8:55 - 8:58for those who have the power,
to abuse of it. -
8:58 - 9:01It seems to me that
this is the common cause -
9:01 - 9:04So, I try to understand.
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9:04 - 9:08What allows people who have power
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9:08 - 9:09to abuse in this fashion
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9:09 - 9:12wihtout us being able to react?
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9:12 - 9:16Today, the states create for the banks
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9:16 - 9:20hundreds, thousands of billions
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9:20 - 9:23so that banks can themselves
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9:23 - 9:27lend it to us with interests.
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9:27 - 9:32And instead of lending to small companies,
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9:34 - 9:38or to citizen in needs,
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9:38 - 9:41this money goes in the pockets
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9:41 - 9:42of people super rich
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9:42 - 9:45who already have too much money.
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9:45 - 9:47And we can't do a thing to resist!
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9:47 - 9:48What can we do to resist?
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9:48 - 9:49I am not exaggerating.
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9:49 - 9:51Concretely, what can we do to resist?
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9:51 - 9:54Someone in the room :
'It's essential to sustain the banks... -
9:54 - 9:56so that they can allow for investments."
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9:56 - 9:58I do not agree.
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9:58 - 10:01In fact, when we will talk about money...
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10:04 - 10:08Your objections are absolutely
precious to me. -
10:08 - 10:12I mean, I need objections
to improve myself. -
10:12 - 10:15And objections, controversies
I'm experiencing since six years -
10:15 - 10:17make me progress very fast.
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10:17 - 10:21So I will definitely not remove
any of your objections -
10:21 - 10:23with the back of my hand
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10:23 - 10:25wihtout making the effort to prove
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10:25 - 10:28carefully and rationally
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10:28 - 10:32the points I defend in opposition to you.
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10:33 - 10:35When you say:
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10:35 - 10:40"We absolutely need to save the banks,
to support the banks" -
10:40 - 10:44Yes, but not unrequited.
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10:44 - 10:46Yes, but not without obligations.
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10:46 - 10:48Yes because if we give up on the banks,
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10:48 - 10:50the system falls and us with it.
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10:50 - 10:51Yes so in fact,
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10:51 - 10:55as Frederic Lordon, a friend, says
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10:55 - 10:59in fact, we need to support the banks.
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10:59 - 11:01Support our financial system.
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11:01 - 11:03But nothing, nothing obliges us
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11:03 - 11:06or obliges those who govern us
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11:06 - 11:08to do it unrequitedly. Nothing at all.
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11:08 - 11:10These people are in fraudulent bankruptcy.
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11:10 - 11:13The banks today are
in fraudulent bankruptcy. -
11:13 - 11:15Which means they should be in jail.
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11:15 - 11:17And instead we save them
without any compensations? -
11:17 - 11:19I find it more than questionable.
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11:19 - 11:21But we will come back to it if you want
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11:21 - 11:23when it will be the time
to talk about money. -
11:23 - 11:25Because I have many topics.
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11:25 - 11:27And I can talk about money now but
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11:27 - 11:30it seems to me
that there is a logical order. -
11:30 - 11:32I think we can start by observing
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11:32 - 11:36the way European Union works
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11:36 - 11:38and its malfunctions
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11:38 - 11:40as it is the topic of the evening.
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11:40 - 11:42What do we do with this European Union?
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11:42 - 11:45If we had to do it again, would we?
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11:45 - 11:48And, as we will study the European Union,
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11:48 - 11:49we will talk about money.
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11:49 - 11:51We will deepen the topic of money.
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11:51 - 11:53And I will tell you about
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11:53 - 11:55the mecanisms of monetary creation.
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11:55 - 11:56The way today
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11:56 - 11:57we create money
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11:57 - 11:58is... crazy!
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11:58 - 12:00Really not reasonable.
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12:00 - 12:01And it's not the only way to do it.
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12:01 - 12:03There are alternatives.
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12:03 - 12:05We could create the money
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12:05 - 12:07With risks that we need to understand
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12:07 - 12:09and which we will talk about.
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12:09 - 12:12But risks which should not lead us
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12:12 - 12:14to give up reclaiming
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12:14 - 12:16the process of monetary creation.
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12:16 - 12:18But I suggest that we will talk
about it a little bit later. -
12:18 - 12:21To avoid talking about everything
at the same time. -
12:21 - 12:23But, everytime, which would be good
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12:23 - 12:25is that I could tell you
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12:25 - 12:28where I am with my analysis.
The work I am doing. -
12:28 - 12:29And then I stop.
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12:29 - 12:31Even if I haven't said everything.
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12:31 - 12:33Because if I say everything I have to say,
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12:33 - 12:36I could talk about it days on end
without stopping -
12:36 - 12:38So, I won't to tell you everything.
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12:38 - 12:40That I stop and let you talk.
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12:41 - 12:43And a good part
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12:43 - 12:44of what I have to tell you,
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12:44 - 12:47I express it in reaction
to your objections, -
12:47 - 12:49your fears, your suggestions.
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12:49 - 12:51And also because, for me, it is precious.
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12:51 - 12:53I come looking for this as well.
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12:53 - 12:54Which means you will
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12:54 - 12:56most certainly bring me
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12:56 - 12:57a lot of things
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12:57 - 12:59through new objections, a new idea.
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12:59 - 13:01Almost at every conference
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13:01 - 13:04I come out with a good,
a really good idea. -
13:04 - 13:07Which will help me. Which I cultivate.
Which I work on. -
13:07 - 13:09Someone in the room :
"Dialogue is essential...." -
13:09 - 13:11Absolutely! Dialogue is
absolutely essential. -
13:11 - 13:12There is a sentence
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13:12 - 13:14which I discovered last week
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13:14 - 13:16which says it differently.
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13:16 - 13:19Which says "I need my enemies".
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13:19 - 13:21It's really well said, I believe.
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13:21 - 13:24It's true that I need my opponents.
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13:24 - 13:26I need my opponents to move forward.
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13:26 - 13:28And I also need my friends.
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13:28 - 13:30Who disagree with me on certain topics.
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13:30 - 13:31And who contradict me on those.
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13:31 - 13:33I love controversy.
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13:33 - 13:36here, I think I never progress as much
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13:36 - 13:39as during a contradictory debate
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13:39 - 13:41where we do not agree.
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13:41 - 13:44And sometimes I realize that I was wrong.
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13:44 - 13:46That I had a wrong angle,
and I correct it. -
13:46 - 13:47Sometimes I manage to show
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13:47 - 13:49that it's my opponent
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13:49 - 13:51And here we discuss.
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13:51 - 13:53My goal is not be right.
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13:53 - 13:55I am looking for... the greater good.
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13:55 - 13:58And most of the resistants too.
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13:58 - 14:01We all have our method, our tools.
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14:01 - 14:04I think that people who are looking
for social justice, -
14:04 - 14:07out of good faith, should be able
to get along. -
14:07 - 14:08If they disagree on
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14:08 - 14:10the means to reach
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14:10 - 14:11social justice,
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14:11 - 14:13I think they should be capable
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14:13 - 14:15to discuss it respectfully.
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14:15 - 14:17By trying to take the best
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14:17 - 14:18of the other's thinking process.
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14:18 - 14:20We just need to give ourselves time.
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14:20 - 14:22And actually it is good
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14:22 - 14:23that we have time tonight.
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14:23 - 14:26Because these are real rich
and dense topics. -
14:26 - 14:28On which we have much to say.
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14:28 - 14:30It's good to have time
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14:30 - 14:31to develop them
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14:33 - 14:36I handed out
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14:36 - 14:38a first double-sided document .
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14:38 - 14:40A simple sheet on which...
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14:40 - 14:42You will see I have brought
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14:42 - 14:43a lot of documents.
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14:43 - 14:46Because I am a teacher.
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14:46 - 14:48And so, I am used to...
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14:51 - 14:55Not saying everything.
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14:55 - 14:59And at the same time to see
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14:59 - 15:01are not always so focused.
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15:01 - 15:04And I am the same, we are all like this.
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15:04 - 15:08And can miss an important moment
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15:08 - 15:11which we lack, later,
from the whole reasoning. -
15:11 - 15:14The good way to overcome
these difficulties -
15:14 - 15:16to communicate orally
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15:16 - 15:19is to have a written support,
which sets [the topics] well. -
15:19 - 15:21[A document] prepared in advance
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15:21 - 15:23and on which we are sure
we haven't forgotten anything. -
15:23 - 15:26I am not going to read this document
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15:26 - 15:28but I invite you to read it calmly
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15:28 - 15:30at your leisure, later.
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15:30 - 15:32They will surely be some things
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15:32 - 15:34which I would have forgotten
to tell you tonight. -
15:34 - 15:36But it's not important.
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15:36 - 15:37You'll find it in the document.
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15:37 - 15:40And then, there are things I'll have said
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15:40 - 15:41that I won't have pronounced well
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15:41 - 15:43or on which I won't have insisted on enough
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15:43 - 15:45which you might not have understood...
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15:45 - 15:48And which you will understand
maybe better by reading. -
15:48 - 15:50This first page
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15:51 - 15:52It is a sort of summary
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15:52 - 15:56of what leads me to think
about this topic. -
15:56 - 15:58About the solution
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15:58 - 16:05the institutional solution
that I plan or see -
16:10 - 16:14In this first page,
there is this introduction -
16:14 - 16:15which I made earlier
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16:15 - 16:19and which explains men
have always needed power. -
16:19 - 16:21Have always confronted power abuses.
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16:21 - 16:25Invented in order to resist
the idea of constitution. -
16:25 - 16:27That a constitution is not used
to organise powers, -
16:27 - 16:30it is used to weaken them.
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16:31 - 16:33It is used to weaken them.
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16:33 - 16:35And so, in a constitution,
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16:35 - 16:37if we seek to weaken the power,
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16:37 - 16:39if we don't seek to destroy it,
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16:39 - 16:41we need the power...
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16:41 - 16:42But we seek to weaken it
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16:42 - 16:44so that they don't abuse of it.
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16:44 - 16:46So that our servants don't become
our masters. -
16:46 - 16:49So that we don't become
the prey of tyrants. -
16:50 - 16:52And so that the constitution does its' job
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16:52 - 16:54of power weakening
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16:54 - 16:57while still having itself
enough power to work, -
16:57 - 16:59there is a whole serie of measurements,
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16:59 - 17:03rules, articles in the constitutions,
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17:03 - 17:05of principles which we would like
to see applied -
17:05 - 17:08which I have detailed at the back
of this document. -
17:08 - 17:12At the back of this document,
I have made a list. -
17:12 - 17:15We will not have the time
to work on it this evening -
17:15 - 17:16Maybe later
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17:16 - 17:18we will work on two, three, four points.
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17:18 - 17:19Maybe points on which
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17:19 - 17:22you would like... maybe during the break,
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17:22 - 17:23you could have a look at it.
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17:23 - 17:25If there are points on
which you would like to address, -
17:25 - 17:27we could deepen them.
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17:27 - 17:28"But why is he talking about this?"
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17:28 - 17:31or "Hey, he forgot to talk about that..."
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17:31 - 17:34All of this, in my thinking process,
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17:34 - 17:37I am still thinking about it.
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17:37 - 17:40I find ideas every day.
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17:41 - 17:43I am totally open to criticism,
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17:43 - 17:46to evolution, to new ideas.
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17:47 - 17:49I am not at all
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17:49 - 17:53describing a turn-key solution,
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17:53 - 17:55a sort of new dogma or religion.
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17:55 - 17:56Not at all.
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17:57 - 17:59Simply, I beleive
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17:59 - 18:02that I'm educating myself to
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18:02 - 18:04"What is a constitution?"
-
18:04 - 18:07How come we are not
taking care of it? -
18:07 - 18:10Why is it that we have not seized it,
everyone of us, -
18:10 - 18:13we who consent to obey to power,
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18:13 - 18:16why have we not seized this tool?
-
18:16 - 18:18And what should we know in this tool
-
18:18 - 18:19instead of neglecting it ?
-
18:19 - 18:22And while I am making it mine,
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18:22 - 18:23as I am a teacher, I like to explain,
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18:23 - 18:25well, I make the most of it !
-
18:25 - 18:26Moreover, I had the chance in 2005
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18:26 - 18:28to have this kind of unbelievable fame
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18:28 - 18:31which came from Internet
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18:31 - 18:32and of the game of the medias.
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18:32 - 18:34Well, I make the most of it.
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18:34 - 18:35It gives me the standing.
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18:35 - 18:36So I make the most of it.
-
18:36 - 18:38I am discovering something.
-
18:38 - 18:40It seems that I am finding an idea,
-
18:40 - 18:43a series of ideas,
which are at the same time original -
18:43 - 18:48and very old,
because they date of 2500 years, -
18:48 - 18:50but completely buried,
forgotten and brilliant. -
18:50 - 18:52Really, athenians had found
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18:52 - 18:53something marvellous
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18:53 - 18:55to protect themselves from power thieves.
-
18:55 - 18:58I turning around this idea.
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19:04 - 19:06Testing it with fire.
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19:06 - 19:09To the fire of your critics
and objections. -
19:09 - 19:10To check if it holds [true].
-
19:10 - 19:12That it still makes sense.
-
19:12 - 19:15It's not a dogma at all.
-
19:15 - 19:16It's an idea which is...
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19:16 - 19:18Which is becoming stronger.
-
19:18 - 19:26You will see that the idea
of real democracy -
19:26 - 19:30possible and protected, by selection through lots.
-
19:30 - 19:34You will see that it is seducing.
-
19:34 - 19:36It is very promising.
-
19:40 - 19:43Sortition, I saw it coming.
-
19:43 - 19:44I will speak about it a little now,
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19:44 - 19:46and a lot more at the end of the evening,
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19:46 - 19:48when we will see democracy.
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19:48 - 19:49How it works.
-
19:49 - 19:50How it worked in Athens.
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19:50 - 19:52And what should we reuse?
-
19:52 - 19:53What can we reuse?
-
19:53 - 19:55We will see this more in details.
-
19:55 - 19:59But very quickly in fact, in 2005
-
20:02 - 20:05while studying the European institutions,
-
20:06 - 20:07I wondered
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20:07 - 20:09"But how could we write
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20:10 - 20:12such bad institutions,
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20:12 - 20:15so unprotective for citizens?"
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20:17 - 20:20Because, it will be
the first part of the evening. -
20:20 - 20:22We will work or I suggest we work
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20:22 - 20:27on the main grievances that I find.
-
20:27 - 20:31It is a first stone in the debate.
-
20:31 - 20:34I don't mean to summarize it all.
-
20:34 - 20:36But what I consider
like the most important -
20:36 - 20:38to hold against the European institutions.
-
20:38 - 20:40We'll see this in not too long.
-
20:40 - 20:42But already, before looking at the detail,
-
20:42 - 20:46if you have participated
to the 2005 debate, -
20:46 - 20:48you will remember that there was
-
20:48 - 20:50a lot to say about this constitution.
-
20:50 - 20:52And as I was thinking,
-
20:52 - 20:55I was wondering... still the same
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20:55 - 20:57I was looking for "the cause of causes".
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20:57 - 20:58But what led us to
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20:58 - 21:01texts so unprotective of men?
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21:01 - 21:04So pretentious?
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21:04 - 21:06Texts which pretend to protect us
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21:06 - 21:08pretend to establish...
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21:08 - 21:09what did they say?...
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21:09 - 21:11"The highest standards of democracy"
they said. -
21:12 - 21:15And in the same time organised,
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21:15 - 21:17in the most minor detail,
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21:17 - 21:19the perfect politic powerlessness
-
21:19 - 21:20of every citizen
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21:20 - 21:23who couldn't change a thing anymore.
-
21:24 - 21:27I thought : "How did we come to this?"
-
21:27 - 21:29In fact, by answering this question
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21:29 - 21:32I answered to all the questions of
the same nature -
21:32 - 21:34which I could encounter
at a national level as well. -
21:34 - 21:37Because what we encounter
at the European level, -
21:37 - 21:39this political powerlessness
-
21:39 - 21:40which is organised
in the European institutions. -
21:40 - 21:42We already encounter it
at a national level. -
21:42 - 21:44And we encounter it...
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21:44 - 21:47in almost every country of the world.
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21:48 - 21:50So, is it a fatality?
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21:50 - 21:53Or is there a common cause?
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21:54 - 21:57Which leads us to understand why
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21:57 - 21:58it always happen like this
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21:58 - 22:00and which would lead us to understand
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22:00 - 22:02what should we change for
-
22:02 - 22:04it not to always happen like this.
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22:04 - 22:05And I think I found it.
-
22:05 - 22:08The European institutions
have been written -
22:08 - 22:10by ministers... and presidents.
-
22:12 - 22:15And we see this everywhere
in the European institutions -
22:15 - 22:18that it is ministers
who wrote the institutions. -
22:18 - 22:20In the European institutions
-
22:20 - 22:24legislative power is vested in
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22:24 - 22:27the ministers, mainly.
-
22:28 - 22:31Our ministers at national level
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22:31 - 22:33who take off their minister costumes
-
22:33 - 22:35when they leave France
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22:35 - 22:37to go to the European parliament
-
22:37 - 22:39to go in the European institutions
-
22:39 - 22:43And there they put
on their parliamentary costumes -
22:43 - 22:45but they are ministers!
-
22:45 - 22:48They put their parliamentary costumes
to write laws. -
22:48 - 22:50The European laws.
-
22:50 - 22:53Which are transposed in the French law,
or in national law. -
22:53 - 22:55It is the same in all the countries.
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22:55 - 22:57Almost mechanically, automatically.
-
22:57 - 23:00And then they go back in their countries,
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23:00 - 23:03and they put back
their ministers costumes. -
23:04 - 23:08And we can see that they wrote the rules.
-
23:08 - 23:12We will come back on the detail
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23:12 - 23:15of all the great risks
in the European institutions. -
23:15 - 23:18But we can see
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23:18 - 23:20that it is European ministers
-
23:20 - 23:22who wrote the European institutions.
-
23:22 - 23:25In the same way
that the French institutions, -
23:25 - 23:26the constitution of 1958, we can see
-
23:26 - 23:29that it is De Gaulles [1st president of
the 5th Republic] who wrote it. -
23:29 - 23:31I am told: "it's Debré."
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23:31 - 23:34Yes it is Debré, but Debré,
he wrote it for De Gaulle. -
23:34 - 23:36Lawyers, the great lawyers,
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23:36 - 23:37the great teachers of public law
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23:37 - 23:40who wrote apparently the institutions
of the fifth republic... [wrote it for De Gaule] -
23:40 - 23:42But we can see everywhere
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23:42 - 23:44that the institutions of the fifth
are not made -
23:44 - 23:46like those of the fourth or of
the third [republic]. -
23:46 - 23:48They were made for the president
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23:48 - 23:51who built them for himself.
-
23:51 - 23:56It's like this almost everywhere
in the world. -
23:56 - 24:00And that's why in fact...
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24:01 - 24:03Men who hold power should not
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24:03 - 24:06write the rules that control power.
-
24:06 - 24:08That's how I summarise it.
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24:08 - 24:09It is with these words
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24:09 - 24:11that I summarise the "heart of the heart"
-
24:11 - 24:13The most important thing
I have to tell you. -
24:13 - 24:16It seems to me that this is
the cause of causes -
24:16 - 24:18of our political powerlessness.
-
24:18 - 24:21It is that we have no constitution.
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24:21 - 24:23The declaration of human rights
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24:23 - 24:27which our revolutionary forefathers [wrote].
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24:28 - 24:30We need to read
the constitutional debates. -
24:30 - 24:32The debates that had those people
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24:32 - 24:34in the moment where they freed themselves
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24:34 - 24:35from the former tyranny
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24:35 - 24:37and where they made a tool
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24:37 - 24:38to protect themselves against tyranny.
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24:38 - 24:41The thoughts, the discussions they had.
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24:41 - 24:43The thoughts they had
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24:43 - 24:45to protect durably
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24:45 - 24:46against power abuse.
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24:46 - 24:48That was the french revolution!
-
24:49 - 24:52There are absolutely
fascinating discussions. -
24:52 - 24:55And they knew very well
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24:55 - 24:56that we had to weaken power.
-
24:56 - 24:58Montesquieu thought about it before
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24:58 - 25:02and revolutionnary knew
of course Montesquieu, Rousseau... -
25:02 - 25:04They knew they had to divide powers
-
25:04 - 25:07for the power not to abuse of power.
-
25:07 - 25:08Montesquieu said : "We need
-
25:08 - 25:10power to stop power."
-
25:10 - 25:12Which means that we needed ...
-
25:12 - 25:14and Montesquieu imagined
only three powers. -
25:14 - 25:16He had seen:
-
25:16 - 25:17- those who made the laws: the parliament
-
25:17 - 25:19- those who execute the laws:
the executives -
25:19 - 25:21- and those who settle conflicts
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25:21 - 25:24those who apply the rules: the judges.
-
25:24 - 25:27And he said, we need
that those who write the laws -
25:27 - 25:31the parliamentarians,
do not put them in force. -
25:31 - 25:35That those who put laws in application,
the executives -
25:35 - 25:37You shouldn't say government
[in this case] -
25:37 - 25:39Because if you say government,
you get scammed. -
25:39 - 25:41Otherwise it will do everything,
it is going to write the laws. -
25:41 - 25:43If [the executives] are called government,
then the government holds in itself, -
25:43 - 25:46the word holds in itself,
the confusion of the powers. -
25:46 - 25:48We shouldn't call them government.
-
25:48 - 25:50We shouldn't accept "one" government.
-
25:50 - 25:52Call it the executive.
-
25:53 - 25:56And you will see that the word leads you
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25:56 - 25:57to be more rigorous with
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25:57 - 25:59the essential principle of
powers division. -
25:59 - 26:02An essential principle for us
to protect us from power abuse. -
26:02 - 26:04So what Montesquieu said is that
-
26:04 - 26:08the executive executes without having
the right to writing [laws]. -
26:08 - 26:09Without writing...
-
26:10 - 26:13Because 1) if the one who writes the laws
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26:13 - 26:14cannot execute them,
-
26:14 - 26:152) if the one that executes the laws
-
26:15 - 26:17cannot write them,
-
26:17 - 26:19do you understand the idea?
-
26:19 - 26:20It is a clever idea
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26:20 - 26:22to divide powers.
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26:23 - 26:24Very clever!
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26:24 - 26:27It allows, for a constitutional structure,
-
26:27 - 26:31in the superior law structure,
-
26:31 - 26:32of the right of law,
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26:32 - 26:34above those who will make the law,
-
26:34 - 26:38it allows for our protection.
-
26:38 - 26:42Because nobody has
all the powers for himself. -
26:43 - 26:45And then Montesquieu continued
-
26:45 - 26:49saying that judges must be independant
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26:49 - 26:51from the two other powers
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26:51 - 26:52to be able to apply the laws.
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26:52 - 26:55Therefore, for the law to be applied
-
26:55 - 26:59It had to be that the one
who writes the laws -
26:59 - 27:01agrees with the one who executes the laws
-
27:01 - 27:05and agrees with the one who applies them: the judge.
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27:05 - 27:09We would be well sheltered
-
27:09 - 27:11against power abuse if we do that.
-
27:11 - 27:14What the revolutionnaries said
-
27:14 - 27:16in the declaration of human rights
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27:16 - 27:22is that: "A nation
which does not divide powers -
27:22 - 27:25doesn't have a constitution."
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27:25 - 27:27It is the article 16.
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27:27 - 27:31A nation which doesn't divide powers
-
27:31 - 27:33does not have a constitution.
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27:33 - 27:35We cannot be clearer!
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27:35 - 27:38It means that if we pretend
to having one, it's false. -
27:38 - 27:40And it's true... I believe it is true!
-
27:40 - 27:42I will even say better for today.
-
27:42 - 27:45In the twenty first century
we can push a little further, -
27:45 - 27:47we can think further,
-
27:47 - 27:52and say : "A constitution
which does not protect us well -
27:52 - 27:56- either because of the undivided powers
-
27:56 - 27:57or because of something else -
-
27:57 - 28:00a constitution
which does not protect us well -
28:00 - 28:02against power abuses
-
28:02 - 28:03is not a constitution!
-
28:03 - 28:06Because its job, its reason of existance
-
28:06 - 28:10Because a constitution is used
only for that! -
28:10 - 28:12To protect us all,
-
28:12 - 28:14the rich, the poor, the young,
the old, everyone -
28:14 - 28:16to protect us against power abuse.
-
28:16 - 28:18As the definition itself
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28:18 - 28:20the essence of a constitution
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28:20 - 28:22is to protect us from power abuse.
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28:22 - 28:23If it doesn't do its job
-
28:23 - 28:25it is not a constitution!
-
28:25 - 28:29Or it's a bad constitution
-
28:31 - 28:35From this point of view,
the fifth [republic] is really bad. -
28:35 - 28:37It is a bad constitution
-
28:37 - 28:39and the European constitution is bad too!
-
28:39 - 28:41We can talk about it in details.
-
28:41 - 28:43I am starting from the end
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28:43 - 28:44by telling you the conclusion.
-
28:44 - 28:48It's not well but we can have a look...
-
28:48 - 28:51Article by article, almost.
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28:52 - 28:55So it is in fact the meaning
of the document -
28:55 - 28:58the back of the first document
that I am talking about, -
28:58 - 29:01consists in saying :
"let's see where we stand... -
29:01 - 29:03what do we expect from a constitution?"
-
29:03 - 29:04By which mechanical ways,
-
29:04 - 29:06which legal ways,
-
29:06 - 29:08A constitution protects me?
-
29:08 - 29:10"Protects me", I am not talking
about me obviously -
29:10 - 29:12I talk in a general way, as "me citizen"
-
29:12 - 29:15By which means a constitution protects me?
-
29:15 - 29:19The parliament ... "Is above others"
-
29:19 - 29:22"The voting system secures a majority"
-
29:22 - 29:24"The voting system gives
a place to the minority" -
29:24 - 29:26"Some seats are reserved...."
-
29:26 - 29:29So you will see, in there, that
-
29:29 - 29:30some things are a little unorthodox
-
29:30 - 29:32because, when I say "Some seats
-
29:32 - 29:34of every organs are reserved
-
29:34 - 29:36to sorted citizens,"
-
29:39 - 29:42Every single line could deserve
to be studied. -
29:42 - 29:45If I start digging into this,
-
29:45 - 29:47it is going to be too long and
it mustn't be. -
29:47 - 29:49But what I wanted, I did a table there
-
29:49 - 29:52with, to the right, some boxes to tick
-
29:52 - 29:54and when I examinate
my constitution : I tick -
29:54 - 29:56Do I have it? Or not?
-
29:56 - 29:59And then I tick yes/no, yes/no, yes/no
-
29:59 - 30:03And for the fifth, I have very few "yes"
-
30:03 - 30:05very very few, there is almost only "no"
-
30:05 - 30:07and for European institutions,
I only have "no" -
30:07 - 30:09virtually only "no"....
-
30:09 - 30:11There is no respect for blank vote...
-
30:11 - 30:13There is no referendum of
popular initiative -
30:13 - 30:15There is no power division
-
30:15 - 30:17There is no... etc, etc...
-
30:17 - 30:19Judges are not independant.
-
30:19 - 30:21Every single one of these points...
-
30:21 - 30:24If you want, when we talk about democracy
-
30:24 - 30:26When we talk about democracy...
-
30:26 - 30:28When we talk about constitution...
-
30:29 - 30:31I do not just say words.
-
30:31 - 30:32It's not enough to say:
-
30:32 - 30:36" European institutions are
the highest standard of democracy". -
30:36 - 30:38I go check inside
the European institutions -
30:38 - 30:40to see tangibly
-
30:40 - 30:41what is the apparatus
-
30:41 - 30:44which allows to say "it is a democracy".
-
30:44 - 30:48However, for me, democracy,
I don't know for you... -
30:48 - 30:51It's a debate but for me
it is "demos kratos." -
30:51 - 30:52The power of the people.
-
30:52 - 30:54So, the people should have the power.
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30:54 - 30:56People should exercise the power.
-
30:56 - 30:58Democracy : people exercise power.
-
30:58 - 31:02And at least, there is none
-
31:02 - 31:04on earth, there is none
-
31:04 - 31:06very few, maybe... Switzerland
-
31:06 - 31:09And still, not even, in Switzerland
there are parlementaries -
31:09 - 31:11So there is no country
in the world for now -
31:11 - 31:16where the people writes himself
directly his laws. -
31:19 - 31:22In most of [political] regimes,
-
31:23 - 31:24and we will see it later,
-
31:24 - 31:26most regimes
-
31:26 - 31:27are not democracies.
-
31:27 - 31:29They are representative governments
-
31:29 - 31:30And you will see, as we talk about it,
-
31:30 - 31:32I will explain the history
-
31:32 - 31:33and this is very important
-
31:33 - 31:35to understand the regimes we have.
-
31:35 - 31:36The story of our regimes.
-
31:36 - 31:41What did the people who instituted
our regimes want? -
31:41 - 31:43They didn't want to make a democracy,
not at all. -
31:43 - 31:44They knew very well what was a democracy.
-
31:44 - 31:46They didn't want it at all.
-
31:46 - 31:47So it is normal that we are not
in democracy. -
31:47 - 31:51It was not wished for at all
from the beginning. -
31:51 - 31:56Sieyès, a great thinker of
french revolution -
31:56 - 31:58wrote one day:
" What is the third estate?" -
31:58 - 32:02One of the notables
who followed all the french revolution -
32:02 - 32:05until Thermidor...
-
32:06 - 32:10He was someone who didn't want....
it is written black on white! -
32:10 - 32:11"There is no way that..."
-
32:11 - 32:13In one of the documents
that I'll hand out -
32:13 - 32:14there is the full quote
-
32:14 - 32:17"There is no way that France
shall become a democracy" -
32:17 - 32:19It is not going to be it,
we are not making a democracy -
32:19 - 32:22People is not able
to write himself the laws -
32:22 - 32:24People will designate his representatives
-
32:24 - 32:28who will write the laws
in its stead and that's all! -
32:29 - 32:31Well, this is not a democracy.
-
32:31 - 32:33It is something else, it's an artistocracy
-
32:33 - 32:35it's the government by the best.
-
32:35 - 32:38If we manage to put
the best of the best in power -
32:38 - 32:39it's an aristocracy.
-
32:39 - 32:40But, if they are not the best of
the best, it is going to be an oligarchy. -
32:40 - 32:42But in any way, it is not a democracy!
-
32:42 - 32:45And this is really our topic of later on.
-
32:45 - 32:46So I close this parenthesis
-
32:46 - 32:54to stay in the scheme of the first part
of european union -
32:57 - 33:01So, to finish this introduction
-
33:01 - 33:05the reflexion on the european institutions
in 2005 -
33:05 - 33:07led me immediately
-
33:07 - 33:08to [write] the first document.
-
33:08 - 33:11The one that toured France and
also a little around the world. -
33:11 - 33:14I wrote my conclusion:
-
33:14 - 33:20"If such bad institutions have been written,
-
33:20 - 33:23it is because those who wrote them
-
33:23 - 33:25shouldn't have done so.
-
33:25 - 33:27It should not have been them
writing the constitutions. -
33:27 - 33:29It should not have been them
writing the institutions. -
33:29 - 33:31They were judges and jury.
-
33:31 - 33:33They were in a situation of conflict
of interests. -
33:33 - 33:35They were writing the rules for themselves.
-
33:35 - 33:39And there, I am on the "cause of causes".
-
33:39 - 33:41I am on the first cause of causes.
-
33:41 - 33:44If you let, if we let,
the constitutions be written -
33:44 - 33:46by exactly those who should fear them;
-
33:46 - 33:49If we let the constitution be written
-
33:49 - 33:53by those who should fear constitution;
-
33:54 - 33:57It is easy to understand
-
33:57 - 34:01these people will not, write rules
which will hinder them -
34:01 - 34:04burden them, keep them under control,
threaten them -
34:04 - 34:05put them at risk
-
34:05 - 34:07make them "accountable for"
-
34:07 - 34:09make them responsible of their acts.
-
34:09 - 34:11These people... But I am not angry at them
-
34:11 - 34:13I don't say they are horrible people.
-
34:13 - 34:16This is something important.
-
34:16 - 34:22Under the law, a judge has to give justice.
-
34:22 - 34:25But, when in a court case,
-
34:25 - 34:27he is from the same family of the victim
-
34:27 - 34:31or of the detained or the accused,
-
34:31 - 34:34he is recused / disqualified.
-
34:34 - 34:36And this isn't an issue.
-
34:36 - 34:37That's how it is
-
34:37 - 34:39in all the countries of
the world obviously. -
34:39 - 34:41And everyone understands
-
34:41 - 34:43that we are not saying
this judge is dishonest. -
34:43 - 34:46Not at all!
When we disqualify a judge -
34:46 - 34:48because he is from the same family
-
34:48 - 34:50of the victim or the accused,
-
34:50 - 34:52it is not because he is dishonest.
-
34:52 - 34:56It is because, he cannot, in this very situation,
-
34:56 - 34:57he cannot be honest.
-
34:57 - 35:00But we don't say this guy there
is dishonest, not at all! -
35:00 - 35:02In fact, the judge is disqualified
-
35:02 - 35:04and he is not upset about it.
-
35:04 - 35:05There is no issue.
-
35:05 - 35:08He is in a situation of
conflict of interests -
35:08 - 35:10so he cannot judge!
-
35:11 - 35:16Well, parliamentaries, ministers, judges,
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35:16 - 35:18all the ones who have a power;
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35:18 - 35:21instituted,
established in the institutions -
35:21 - 35:23and even those who haven't got it yet
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35:23 - 35:26this power, but want this power;
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35:26 - 35:28all those who are in political parties;
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35:28 - 35:30all those who are in political parties;
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35:30 - 35:33who are candidates to this power;
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35:33 - 35:34so they look ahead
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35:34 - 35:36they know they will, one day, be in power
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35:36 - 35:39Those people are in a situation...
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35:39 - 35:42I'm absolutly not saying that
they are dishonest -
35:42 - 35:44please listen carefully so that
there is no misunderstanding. -
35:44 - 35:46As it was for the judge,
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35:46 - 35:48I don't say these people are dishonest,
not at all. -
35:48 - 35:49I say these people...
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35:49 - 35:52we need them, we need people
who will exercise power -
35:52 - 35:54But they shouldn't write
the constitution! -
35:54 - 35:58It is not to them to write the rule
they should fear -
35:58 - 36:01and which will stop them
from abusing of the power -
36:01 - 36:04and transform themselves
from servants to masters -
36:04 - 36:06They cannot write the rule
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36:06 - 36:10which will stop them from becoming
our absolute tyrannical masters. -
36:10 - 36:12It needs to be other people.
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36:12 - 36:15Others than people from parties
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36:15 - 36:17and who have the power
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36:17 - 36:18or who want it...
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36:18 - 36:21How will you do to designate them?
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36:24 - 36:25We will talk about it later.
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36:25 - 36:26But I can give you
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36:26 - 36:27a feeling of it
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36:27 - 36:29so that you have the idea in mind.
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36:29 - 36:32It is important that you see
where I am going. -
36:32 - 36:33The golden thread.
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36:33 - 36:35My train of thoughts.
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36:35 - 36:38I try to find
an honest constituant process -
36:38 - 36:40disinterested,
without conflict of interests. -
36:40 - 36:43So for now, today
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36:43 - 36:46I am thinking about sorting
the constituant assembly. -
36:46 - 36:47So maybe you'll find
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36:47 - 36:49a better idea, I'm all for it!
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36:49 - 36:52I am not looking into sortition,
just because it is sortition. -
36:52 - 36:53I don't care
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36:53 - 36:54If I get a better idea, I'll take that one.
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36:54 - 36:59I am looking for [the good idea], and it seems
to me that we should all be looking for it. -
36:59 - 37:00The problem is that
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37:00 - 37:01Noone cares for the moment.
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37:01 - 37:03That is the folly, the cause of causes
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37:03 - 37:05is our carelessness, our ignorance,
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37:05 - 37:08it's the fact that we don't care
at all about constitution -
37:08 - 37:10and constituant process we care even less
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37:10 - 37:13In Tunis, in Tunisia today, they are voting
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37:13 - 37:16for a constituant assembly
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37:16 - 37:20Just to smile, I'll play the devils' advocate.
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37:20 - 37:22And if I'm wrong, I'll be the fool.
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37:23 - 37:24I can predicte that
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37:24 - 37:28the constituant
which will be elected today -
37:29 - 37:32will not establish a democracy.
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37:32 - 37:34For the same reasons which forbid
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37:34 - 37:39real democracies to become reality.
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37:39 - 37:41Everywhere in the world,
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37:41 - 37:43if you let men in power write themselves
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37:43 - 37:45the rules of their own power:
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37:45 - 37:47they will not write
the power to the people. -
37:47 - 37:50And I can't be upset at them.
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37:50 - 37:54It's normal... They won't commit hara-kiri
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37:54 - 37:56They wont... They look ahead
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37:56 - 37:58they have a vision of the greater good.
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37:58 - 38:00It's very well, they are very virtuous.
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38:00 - 38:04But when they are writing the rules:
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38:04 - 38:08"Should we tally and put into force
blank votes?" -
38:08 - 38:10The possibility to kick us out
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38:10 - 38:12during an election,
for the people to say "no". -
38:12 - 38:13I don't want As, Bs nor Cs
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38:13 - 38:14I want them all to go home.
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38:14 - 38:15"Should we respect the
use of the blank vote?" -
38:15 - 38:17"Oh well... no it's not worth
the trouble, the blank vote..." -
38:17 - 38:19will say parliamentaries.
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38:19 - 38:21They will say: "No, it's not worth it..."
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38:21 - 38:23No, the blank vote...
the blank vote, no... -
38:23 - 38:26no there surely is something more important
to do in the constitution -
38:26 - 38:28and they will focus on something else!
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38:28 - 38:29Who wrote the rule stating
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38:29 - 38:32a blank vote is equal to "not voted"?
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38:32 - 38:35It is not simple citizens
who wrote that. It's impossible! -
38:35 - 38:37It is not simple citizens
who said "Blank votes..." -
38:37 - 38:38Do you know what is the blank vote?
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38:38 - 38:40White vote is a vote of protest.
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38:40 - 38:42A vote which says :
"Wait a minute, those there.... -
38:42 - 38:43they are all villains!"
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38:43 - 38:44These are all people
who are bad. -
38:44 - 38:47There are all people
I have already seen lying to me. -
38:47 - 38:49people who already reneged
on their promises. -
38:49 - 38:52Or people who, for this or this reason,
no matter.. -
38:52 - 38:53I want noone of them!
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38:53 - 38:54I want them all to go away.
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38:54 - 38:55I would like to put others instead.
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38:55 - 38:57That's the meaning of a blank vote.
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38:57 - 38:58The blank vote is a vote of protest.
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38:58 - 38:59Blank vote is an affirmative vote.
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38:59 - 39:01It is not a vote of carelessness.
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39:01 - 39:03Blank vote is not a mistake at all.
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39:03 - 39:06Blank vote is not an abstention.
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39:06 - 39:09Blank vote is a very engaged vote!
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39:09 - 39:13Which says "I am not happy at all
with the candidates you are suggesting" -
39:13 - 39:15I want others!
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39:15 - 39:17Or if you ask me stupid questions
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39:17 - 39:19it's a vote which says
" Please ask me other questions, -
39:19 - 39:21this one is stupid!"
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39:21 - 39:24A blank vote is truely very important,
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39:26 - 39:28Well, I won't open this parenthesis.
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39:28 - 39:30I was going to talk to you about ostracism
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39:30 - 39:31which was a way for athenians
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39:31 - 39:32to say "I don't want this one!"
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39:32 - 39:35A way of saying... It looks a little
like the white vote -
39:35 - 39:37It was a way, an institution,
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39:37 - 39:39which allowed for people to say
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39:39 - 39:42not only what I want,
but also what I don't want. -
39:42 - 39:44I will talk later maybe about it.
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39:44 - 39:45Anyway, what does,
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39:45 - 39:48what leads a constituant
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39:48 - 39:50someone who wrote a constitution
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39:50 - 39:52what leads him not to respect a blank vote
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39:52 - 39:55and mix it with null votes?
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39:56 - 40:00And this, this is just one of the 50 points
which build a constitution. -
40:00 - 40:03The respect of the blank vote.
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40:04 - 40:09A parliamentary, a minister will mix
a white vote with the nulls. -
40:09 - 40:12He will mix it with the "not voted".
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40:12 - 40:16He will do it because
it is in his interest. -
40:16 - 40:18Because there is a personnal interest
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40:18 - 40:20to avoid people from
being able to kick him out -
40:20 - 40:22when an election comes around.
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40:22 - 40:25So, there isn't...
I am not even upset at him. -
40:25 - 40:30Understand me, he shouldn't be
the one writing the constition.
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