36C3 - Hirne Hacken
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0:00 - 0:19[Intro Music]
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0:19 - 0:22Engel: Good morning, Linus!
Linus: Good morning, Sebastian! -
0:22 - 0:28[Applause]
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0:28 - 0:33I'm glad, you showed up so numerous
and fell -
0:33 - 0:36for this baiting title! I want
to talk about human -
0:36 - 0:40factors in IT security and chose "hacking
brains" for the title. -
0:40 - 0:46Background to this is the fact, that
when you talk about "hackers" -
0:46 - 0:49most people think of halfgods in black.
-
0:49 - 0:52Nobody really knows what they are doing,
but those hackers -
0:52 - 0:57get into my device somehow and i don't
know what they want from me -
0:57 - 1:01or how they did it.
And the reality out there is -
1:01 - 1:06typically pretty different than most
people imagine it. I stand firm -
1:06 - 1:13in the believe that basically all
relevant problems in IT security -
1:13 - 1:18have been solved in theory. So we don't
have like... we don't miss the knowledge -
1:18 - 1:23on solutions for particular problems,
but we still can't make it work. -
1:23 - 1:26Even though we've solved everything
theoretically, -
1:26 - 1:32the actual IT security is a desaster.
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1:32 - 1:37And that's most likely, because we build
some fascinating IT-mechanisms and -
1:37 - 1:41we test them. As we can see this pole and
it encloses some animal now, but -
1:41 - 1:44if we observe it in reality, it looks more
like that... -
1:44 - 1:51[audience laughing]
[someone singing to "Einzug der Gladiatoren"] -
1:51 - 1:55
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1:55 - 2:00That's only a small threat and somehow
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2:00 - 2:04we imagine, that it will be different
with bigger threats. -
2:04 - 2:11Let's have a look: We read about Emotet
everywhere. -
2:11 - 2:15Hackers compromise PCs, encrypt all the
data, demand a lot of ransom, -
2:15 - 2:20and Heise covered it a lot, until
they got hit by it themselves. -
2:20 - 2:25[laughter] That means, even those who
really should have known better -
2:25 - 2:28are still effected by it
and i think that's -
2:28 - 2:31pretty interresting. And if we have a look
at what happens in the -
2:31 - 2:36IT security research, even here on this
congress, which is why i handed in this -
2:36 - 2:39talk, so the research has to be avant
garde. -
2:39 - 2:43It's like big applause and Voodoo,
and another exploit there and -
2:43 - 2:48whatever, and remote code execution, while
the reality on the other hand -
2:48 - 2:53what actually happens out there, is
actually more like this. -
2:53 - 2:58Am I in already?
This means, we basically live, -
2:58 - 3:02because we as hackers and nerds find it
interessting, we live like in -
3:02 - 3:08this world, while the real crime that
happens outside looks more like this! -
3:08 - 3:15sleight of hands. and theses sleight of
hands are not addressed or solved! -
3:15 - 3:19And i think that's kinda counterproductive
or bad, that we don't care about -
3:19 - 3:22those problemfields, which prevail and
are seen everywhere -
3:22 - 3:27even in the "Heise" publishing company,
that we don't address them. -
3:27 - 3:31And we haven't made any progress
on that front for years. -
3:31 - 3:34I want to talk a bit about easy Scams,
a bit about password issues, a little -
3:34 - 3:41about malware. A scam that amused even
us in the CCC, is the scam -
3:41 - 3:46by the Chaos-Hacking-Group. They
sent E-Mails that said: -
3:46 - 3:50"Yeah i have compromised your system with
a trojan and -
3:50 - 3:56we are aware about your adventures on the
internet. We know, that you love -
3:56 - 4:01adult sites and know about
your sex addiction." -
4:01 - 4:05And try to blackmail those people. Provide
a Bitcoin Wallet -
4:05 - 4:09and, yeah, try to blackmail people.
Intresstingly -
4:09 - 4:13there are people, that are
really concerned. They deny everything! -
4:13 - 4:18Obviously this isn't true at all and
there's just no truth to any of it. -
4:18 - 4:22When you're practiced in blackmailing,
you know: Don't pay anything until -
4:22 - 4:28proof is provided. When people then
try to inform themselfs and -
4:28 - 4:33goolge it, they land here immediatly.
-
4:33 - 4:37When you google "Chaos-CC group",
then some random websites explain -
4:37 - 4:40that it's a trojan and you should
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4:40 - 4:47download the next malware.
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4:47 - 4:52Basically how to remove this damage. That
means people are getting out of the -
4:52 - 4:57frying pan into the fire. "Haha you
want to get fooled! There i got another -
4:57 - 5:04one for you. That means the world
outside is relativly dangerous -
5:04 - 5:07for our unknowing users.
Let's have a look -
5:07 - 5:12how this looks like when done by
expierienced folks. The Linux -
5:12 - 5:17Kernelmailinglist is known by a bunch
of you. There recently was an E-Mail -
5:17 - 5:23on the 31st of October, so a while ago.
They even provided the password, yeah -
5:23 - 5:25that's the next Level Scam: You just
write some password leak -
5:25 - 5:28with it and folks will get their pumps
racing, because their password -
5:28 - 5:35is written in the Mail and as before they
wanted Bitcoins, amongst -
5:35 - 5:39other things, from the Kernel-Devs
themselfs. Bitcoin is pretty nice, -
5:39 - 5:42You can have a look in the Blockchain and
see how many the devs paid. -
5:42 - 5:48In this wallet are 2.98 Bitcoin which has
been about 19000€ -
5:48 - 5:51some days ago. There are still
people out there claiming -
5:51 - 5:54you can't make a profit on linux.
[laughter] -
5:54 - 6:01[applause]
This E-Mail -
6:01 - 6:06was sent to many many more people outside
the Kernellist, but i think, you get my -
6:06 - 6:08point, and ask yourself: Why do we
even do all that stuff we do -
6:08 - 6:11,when we could easily get people
to send us their money -
6:11 - 6:17with some spam mails. But there's more:
transfer money, the classic! The CEO fraud -
6:17 - 6:22Big topic. This is one of the big
scenarios, that middle size and big -
6:22 - 6:26size companys are exposed to. You
get a mail, where it states -
6:26 - 6:30"Ey, we need to pay those bills!
It hast to happen TODAY" -
6:30 - 6:34most of the time it's
-
6:34 - 6:37small amounts, that get overlooked.
-
6:37 - 6:43but can also be a lot worse.
Acutally -
6:43 - 6:49happend pretty often already, with a story
like: "Yeah the big deal with the chinease -
6:49 - 6:53is almost through and you mustn't
talk to anybody about it, -
6:53 - 6:57but you have to
transfer 2 Mils to the Seychelles " -
6:57 - 7:01and then folks do that and those
Mails work -
7:01 - 7:06a litte with authority, trust, haste
and pressure and guide people -
7:06 - 7:12to do what they shouldn't.
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7:12 - 7:15This might sound funny in the first moment
but when you talk to -
7:15 - 7:19someone that fell for it, they are really
rattled, because they know -
7:19 - 7:22that it wasn't smart and damaging
for the company. -
7:22 - 7:28and that's not that entertaining anymore. :(
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7:28 - 7:35Let's get back to entertaining stuff: The
authentication. A thing that many folks -
7:35 - 7:39have problems with, is their password and
the problem is -
7:39 - 7:43that they only have one
and it lingers in such a collection -
7:43 - 7:49you and everyone has them and
-
7:49 - 7:55you can look up you passwords,
i.e. 23bonobo42, Tim Pritlove, so on -
7:55 - 8:03The beauty of these lists: even WE who
should know better are in those lists. -
8:03 - 8:07When you enter my E-Mail adress in
"haveibeenpwned" -
8:07 - 8:11- a website where you can check if you've
been inlcuded in a leak -
8:11 - 8:16you can also find ME. So, i will explain
how that might have happend. -
8:16 - 8:22The thing that makes me furious about
this, is that since there have beeen -
8:22 - 8:26computers we have never really done
anything against this password problem. -
8:26 - 8:30We tell people: Ok your password shouldn't
be guessable, best case random, -
8:30 - 8:34whithout any system. It should be as long
as possible, best case not a word -
8:34 - 8:40And it should be different everywhere.
And NOBODY does that. -
8:40 - 8:44Recently i went to the dentist and
when you talk with him, he's always like: -
8:44 - 8:47Yeah, floss morning, lunch, evening and
everytime and so on -
8:47 - 8:51"yeah, yeah, first you change all your
passwords and then we can talk about -
8:51 - 8:55that"
[laughter] -
8:55 - 9:03[applause]
and yeah i've done that -
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Jerry Huteka edited English subtitles for 36C3 - Hirne Hacken | ||
Jerry Huteka edited English subtitles for 36C3 - Hirne Hacken |