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Why monkeys (and humans) are wired for fairness

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    My first year in graduate school,
    studying cooperation in monkeys,
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    I spent a lot of time outside,
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    just watching our groups
    of capuchin monkeys interact.
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    One afternoon, I was out back
    feeding peanuts to one of our groups,
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    which required distracting
    one of our males, Ozzie,
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    enough so that the other monkeys
    could get some.
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    Ozzie loved peanuts,
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    and he always tried to do
    anything he could to grab some.
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    On that day, however,
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    he began trying to bring other things
    from his enclosure to me
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    and trade them with me
    in order to get a peanut.
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    Now, capuchins are smart,
    so this wasn't necessarily a surprise.
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    But what was a surprise
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    was that some of the things
    that he was bringing me,
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    I was pretty sure he liked
    better than peanuts.
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    First, he brought me
    a piece of monkey chow,
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    which is like dried dog food --
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    it was even made by Purina --
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    and for a monkey,
    is about as worthless as it gets.
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    Of course, I didn't give him
    a peanut for that.
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    But he kept trying,
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    and eventually, he brought me
    a quarter of an orange
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    and tried to trade it
    with me for a peanut.
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    Now, oranges are a valuable
    monkey commodity,
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    so this trade seemed, shall I say,
    a little bit nuts?
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    Now you may be wondering
    how we know what monkeys prefer.
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    Well, we ask them,
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    by giving them a choice between two foods
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    and seeing which one they pick.
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    Generally speaking,
    their preferences are a lot like ours:
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    the sweeter it is, the more they like it.
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    So, much like humans prefer
    cupcakes to kale,
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    monkeys prefer fruits,
    like oranges or grapes,
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    to vegetables like cucumbers,
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    and all of this to monkey chow.
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    And peanuts are not bad.
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    However, they definitely don't prefer them
    to a chunk of orange.
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    So when Ozzie tried to trade
    a quarter of an orange for a peanut,
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    it was a surprise,
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    and I began to wonder
    if he suddenly wanted that peanut
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    because everybody else
    in his group was getting one.
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    In case you're wondering,
    I did give Ozzie his peanut.
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    But then I went straight
    to my graduate adviser,
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    Frans de Waal,
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    and we began to design a study
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    to see how the monkeys would respond
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    when somebody else in their group
    got a better reward than they did
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    for doing the same work.
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    It was a very simple study.
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    We took two monkeys from the same group
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    and had them sit side by side,
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    and they would do a task,
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    which was trading a token with me,
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    and if they did so successfully,
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    they got a reward.
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    The catch was that one monkey
    always got a piece of cucumber,
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    and the other monkey
    sometimes got a piece of cucumber,
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    but sometimes got a grape.
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    And if you'll recall,
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    grapes are much preferred to cucumbers
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    on the capuchin monkey hierarchy.
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    These are two of my capuchin monkeys.
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    Winter, on the right,
    is trading for a grape,
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    and Lance, on the left,
    is trading for a cucumber.
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    You can see that she --
    and yes, Lance is actually a female --
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    is at first perfectly happy
    with her cucumber,
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    until she sees Winter trading for a grape.
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    Suddenly, Lance is very
    enthusiastic about trading.
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    She gets her cucumber,
    takes a bite and then --
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    throws it right back out again.
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    Meanwhile, Winter trades again
    and gets another grape
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    and has Lance's undivided attention
    while she eats it.
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    This time,
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    Lance is not
    so enthusiastic about trading.
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    But eventually, she does so.
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    But when she gets the cucumber
    this time around,
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    she doesn't even take a bite
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    before she throws it back out again.
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    Apparently, Lance only wants a cucumber
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    when she hasn't just watched
    Winter eat a grape.
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    And Lance was not alone in this.
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    All of my capuchins were perfectly happy
    with their cucumbers
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    as long as the other monkeys
    were getting cucumbers too.
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    But they often weren't so happy
    with their cucumbers
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    when other monkeys were getting a grape.
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    The obvious question is why?
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    If they liked those cucumbers before,
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    what changed?
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    Now, I'm a scientist,
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    and scientists are famously shy
    about reading too much into our studies,
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    especially when it comes
    to what other animals
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    are thinking or feeling,
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    because we can't ask them.
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    But still, what I was seeing in my monkeys
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    looked an awful lot like what we humans
    would call a sense of fairness.
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    After all,
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    the difference in that cucumber
    was that it came after Winter got a grape,
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    rather than before.
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    We humans are obsessed with fairness.
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    I have a younger sister,
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    and when we were little,
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    if my sister got a bigger piece
    of the pie than me,
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    even by a crumb,
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    I was furious.
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    It wasn't fair.
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    And the childhood me is not alone.
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    We humans hate getting
    less than another so much
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    that one study found
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    that if humans were given
    a hypothetical choice
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    between earning 50,000 dollars a year
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    while others earned 25,000 dollars,
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    or earning 100,000 dollars a year
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    while others earned 250,000 dollars,
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    nearly half the subjects
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    prefer to earn 50,000 dollars
    a year less money
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    to avoid earning relatively less
    than someone else.
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    That's a pretty big price to pay.
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    What drives people
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    to this sort of apparently
    irrational decision-making?
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    After all,
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    throwing away your cucumber
    because someone else got a grape
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    only makes sense
    if it makes things more fair.
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    Otherwise, Winter has a grape,
    and you have nothing.
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    Of course humans are not capuchin monkeys.
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    But on the surface,
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    sacrificing 50,000 dollars
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    because somebody else
    is going to earn more money than you
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    makes no more sense
    than throwing away that cucumber.
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    Except maybe it does.
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    Some economists think
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    that the sense of fairness in humans
    is tied to cooperation.
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    In other words, we need
    that sense of fairness
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    when we're working with somebody else
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    to know when we're getting
    the short end of the stick.
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    Think about it this way.
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    Let's say you have a colleague at work
    who's having a hard time
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    and needs a little extra help.
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    You're probably more
    than happy to help out,
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    especially if she does
    the same for you when you need it.
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    In other words, if things even out.
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    But now,
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    let's say that colleague
    is always slacking off
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    and dumping extra work on you.
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    That's infuriating.
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    Or worse,
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    what if you're doing all the work,
    and she's getting paid more.
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    You're outraged, right?
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    As well you should be.
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    That righteous fury
    is your sense of fairness
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    telling you that, well, it's not fair.
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    You need to get your fair share
    from the people you're working with,
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    or it's exploitation, not cooperation.
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    You may not be able to leave every job
    where you're treated unfairly,
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    but in a perfect world,
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    one without racism and sexism
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    and the frictions associated
    with finding a new job,
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    it's your sense of fairness
    that would let you know
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    when it was time to move on.
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    And if you couldn't?
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    Well, that smoldering frustration
    might make you throw your cucumbers too.
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    And humans are not alone in this.
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    In the previous study,
    there was nothing Lance could do about it,
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    but what if there had been?
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    It turns out
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    that capuchins simply refuse
    to cooperate with other capuchins
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    who don't give them their share
    after they worked together.
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    And refusing to work together
    with another monkey
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    is a pretty straightforward way
    of leveling the playing field.
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    Apparently, no monkey
    getting anything at all
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    is better than another
    monkey getting more.
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    But much like you and your coworker,
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    they're perfectly happy
    with a little short-term inequality
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    as long as everything evens out
    over the long run.
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    This economic connection
    between fairness and cooperation
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    makes sense to me
    as an evolutionary biologist.
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    After all,
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    your ancestors didn't get
    to pass on their genes
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    because they did well
    in some absolute sense,
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    but because they did better than others.
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    We don't call it survival of the fit,
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    we call it survival of the fittest.
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    As in more fit than others.
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    It's all relative.
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    OK.
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    So my capuchins don't like it
    when they get less than another.
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    And they're perfectly happy
    to sacrifice their cucumbers
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    to level the playing field.
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    That's great.
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    But what we would call
    a sense of fairness in humans
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    also means that we care
    when we get more than someone else.
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    What about my monkeys?
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    It turns out
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    that primates do notice
    when they get more than others,
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    or at least some of them do.
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    My capuchins do not.
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    But in one of my studies,
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    my chimpanzees would
    sometimes refuse a grape
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    if another chimpanzee
    in their group got a cucumber,
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    which is pretty impressive,
    given how much my chimpanzees like grapes.
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    However, they were still more upset
    when they got less than another chimp
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    as compared to when they got more.
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    You may not think it's fair
    when you have more than your neighbor,
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    but you really don't think it's fair
    when your neighbor has more than you.
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    Here's an important question, though.
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    Why do we care
    about inequality or unfairness
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    when we are the ones
    who are unfairly benefiting?
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    If evolution is about
    survival of the fittest,
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    wouldn't it make sense to grab
    any advantage you can get?
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    Here's the thing though.
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    I do better if I get more than you, sure.
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    But best of all is if you and I
    can work together
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    and get more than either one of us
    could have gotten on our own.
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    But why would you work with me
    if you don't think I'm going to play fair?
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    But if you think I'm going to notice
    when I've got more than you
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    and do something about it,
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    then you will work with me.
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    Evolution has selected us
    to accept the occasional short-term loss
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    in order to maintain these all-important
    long-term relationships.
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    This is true in chimpanzees,
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    but it is even more important in humans.
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    Humans are incredibly interconnected
    and interdependent,
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    and we have the advanced
    cognitive abilities
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    to be able to plan far into the future.
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    And to recognize the importance
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    of maintaining these
    cooperative partnerships.
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    Indeed, if anything,
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    I think we are likely underplaying
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    how important the sense
    of fairness is for people.
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    One of the biggest differences
    between humans and capuchin monkeys
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    is the sheer magnitude and ubiquity
    of cooperation in humans.
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    In other words,
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    we're a lot more cooperative
    than capuchin monkeys are.
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    Legal and economic systems
    literally only exist
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    if we all agree to participate in them.
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    And if people feel left out
    of the rewards and benefits
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    of those systems,
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    then they stop participating,
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    and the whole system falls apart.
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    Many of the protests
    and uprisings we're seeing,
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    both in the US and around the globe,
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    are explicitly framed
    in terms of fairness,
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    which is not surprising to me.
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    Whether it's about disproportionate
    access to resources,
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    or that some groups are being
    disproportionately impacted
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    by the legal system
    or the effects of a virus,
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    these protests are the logical outcome
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    of our long evolutionary tendency
    to reject unfairness
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    combined with our long history
    of social stratification.
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    And the systemic inequalities
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    that have resulted
    from that stratification.
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    Layer on top of this the fact
    that by many measures
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    economic inequality is skyrocketing.
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    Chris Boehm wrote a book
    called "Hierarchy in the Forest,"
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    in which he argued
    that humans have reverse hierarchies
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    in which those at the bottom band together
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    to keep those at the top
    from taking advantage of them.
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    Perhaps these protests
    are simply the latest manifestation
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    of humans' tendency
    to rebalance the hierarchy.
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    Perhaps the biggest difference
    between us and capuchin monkeys
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    is that we can recognize this problem
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    and actively work
    to do something about it.
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    Of course we recognize
    when we're disadvantaged.
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    But we can and we must also recognize
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    when we're advantaged
    at the expense of someone else,
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    and recognize fairness
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    as the balance between
    these two inequalities,
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    because our society
    literally depends upon it.
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    Indeed, my research shows
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    that not all primate species
    care about inequality.
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    It's only those that rely on cooperation,
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    which most definitely includes humans.
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    We evolved to care about fairness
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    because we rely on each other
    for our cooperative society.
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    And the more unfair the world gets,
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    and the less we care about each other,
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    the more peril we will face.
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    Our issues are more complex
    than grapes and cucumbers,
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    but as the capuchins have taught us,
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    we will all do better
    when we all play fair.
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    Thank you.
Title:
Why monkeys (and humans) are wired for fairness
Speaker:
Sarah Brosnan
Description:

Fairness matters ... to both people and primates. Sharing priceless footage of capuchin monkeys responding to perceived injustice, primatologist Sarah Brosnan explores why humans and monkeys evolved to care about equality -- and emphasizes the connection between a healthy, cooperative society and everyone getting their fair share.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
12:51

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