-
For me,
the most important question today is
-
how do we sit together
and lead a discussion?
-
Not just with one or two persons,
but all of us on this planet.
-
To start to raise the questions
about what's important.
-
-For me, what's important.
-Are you bending the truth...
-
about climate change?
-
Why are African states
less developed than Western states?
-
I'd like to know...
-
What is the proper balance
between Jewish values
-
and other values in a democracy?
-
-I have a few questions.
-Why do they dislike Americans?
-
How does an individual relate
to the group in the 21st Century?
-
This place has a lot of history.
-
In this place, they used to burn books
-
by those who say things
that other people don't like to know.
-
And that's why we've come here
to August-Bebelplatz in Berlin,
-
where books were burned,
thoughts were burned.
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Freedom of speech was burned here.
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THE TABLE OF FREE VOICES,
BEBELPLATZ, BERLIN
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It's wonderful to see all the
beautiful faces around this table.
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We have a long day ahead of us,
so we'll go right into the programme.
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Today, we ask and we begin
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to discover answers to 100 questions
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chosen from thousands, donated
by people from all around the world.
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We will ask them all over the course
of the next nine hours...
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In eight sessions
of around 45 minutes
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covering eight themes
of global importance.
-
-Chinese.
-From here. Directly from here.
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Have you been to my country?
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No, unfortunately, I have not.
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Together, we come together as one
to celebrate our diversity
-
and to gather
a multiplicity of viewpoints.
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-Thank you for being here with us.
-At the Table of Free Voices.
-
-Question one.
-From Anonymous, USA.
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"What is today's
most important unreported story?"
-
You can start with your answer.
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What ought to be reported today
-
and definitely does not
-
is how much life costs.
-
The price of life on this planet.
-
We are going from crisis to crisis
-
and we only report
a portion of the story.
-
When the guns of battle are silenced,
-
we then forget about that country,
-
about that region
that has suffered conflict.
-
And we go to report a different story,
and when we do so...
-
Well, I would begin with Darfur,
-
with the extermination of populations,
-
just because they're of
another religion or another race.
-
And the world
is not interested in them,
-
because they have no resources,
no oil.
-
For me,
the most unreported story of today
-
is the truth behind global terrorism.
-
We have no idea, really no idea,
-
what the truth behind it is.
-
Who is alive? Who is dead?
-
Who is advancing it?
Who is pioneering it?
-
Who is making use of it
-
in "his" or "their" favour.
-
The children who have been enslaved.
-
Human trafficking.
-
The millions of people
crossing borders illegally
-
in search for a better life.
-
I think today's
most important unreported story
-
is the story
of the young girl who died
-
ten minutes ago of malaria.
-
She died needlessly,
-
because the drugs that would be able
to kill the malaria parasite exist,
-
and are cheap.
-
But she didn't get those drugs.
-
And she died,
-
and just now another child died,
-
and this story goes unreported.
-
I don't think there is
-
today's one most important
unreported story.
-
There are many unreported stories
throughout the world.
-
The good things
that are happening in the world.
-
We don't hear about the good things.
There are wonderful things happening.
-
All we ever hear about is bad news.
-
The death, the destruction, wars,
-
killing, murders, rapes.
-
Problems.
If you squeeze a newspaper,
-
it seems to bleed.
-
Thank you.
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Question twelve from Judy Twedt,
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24, Denver, USA.
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"Should we have the right
to choose where we live?"
-
Now, that's an interesting question.
-
I like it.
-
We are just born.
-
We're just born
somewhere on planet Earth,
-
and if we don't want to stay there,
-
we go somewhere else.
-
But then, when we do,
we're discriminated against.
-
I arrived two days ago and on the 11th
I have to leave again,
-
because my visa
only lasts for four days.
-
As a Colombian,
-
as a citizen of the world,
-
I have no right
to enter this paradise,
-
the paradise of the First World,
except for four days.
-
I believe we should have the right
to choose where we live.
-
We live in a world
where capital can move,
-
where goods can move.
-
Why is there so much hysteria
about people moving?
-
For example,
one time I wanted to go to Dubai,
-
but because I have
-
a 1951 Geneva Convention passport,
-
I was not allowed.
-
And the reason they gave me for this
-
was that I didn't belong anywhere.
-
Everybody wants to live in a place
that is free of war.
-
Everybody wants to live
a harmonious existence.
-
But some people can buy that
and others cannot.
-
Some people
can lay claim to that right,
-
and others
are just not in a position to do so.
-
Yes, we all should have the right
to live wherever we want,
-
but all of us
should be able to afford to do so.
-
Sometimes you have to move
to be able to support your family.
-
If you're crossing borders,
and you're not recognized by a state,
-
Does that mean you're illegal
by definitions of the state?
-
I think as humans,
we can't say another human is illegal.
-
The people
who are moving are doing so,
-
because they are desperate.
-
They're taking enormous risks.
-
Look at the people arriving
in the Canary Islands.
-
Every week in makeshift boats,
-
they're arriving
on the beach by the hundreds.
-
These people are absolutely desperate.
-
Otherwise, they would not have left.
-
That's not a choice. That's not
choosing where I'm going to live.
-
You're not going to choose to risk
nine chances out of ten of drowning,
-
or being killed
before you actually arrive.
-
That's not a choice!
-
You could also ask the question,
shouldn't we have...
-
the right to remain where we are?
-
This is a very urgent question
for many, many people on this Earth.
-
Tibetan people,
such as myself, being Tibetan,
-
we don't have this right.
-
Yes, we can live in our country,
-
but we can't necessarily
do what we want to.
-
The day the law
-
effectively realizes the possibility
-
of granting this right
to all people without restriction,
-
on that day
humanity will have done more
-
than pass over a boundary.
-
It will have attained
a degree of evolution,
-
which is desirable
-
for all cultures and nations.
-
It's important...
-
that we can live where we want to.
-
Everyone needs a nest.
-
Even the birds need a nest.
-
Human beings need their homes.
-
Question 19, from Claire Mackintosh,
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25, Brisbane, Australia.
-
"What are the basic dignities
that each human being deserves,"
-
"and why do we let
so many people go without them?"
-
Basic dignity is human dignity,
-
their pride, so they can
hold their heads up, not down.
-
They don't have to be scared.
-
Maybe they live in a remote village.
-
In some part of a developing country.
So what?
-
They should be standing straight...
-
We let so many people go without them,
-
so we can let other people
do what they do.
-
Take lands.
-
Drop bombs.
-
Take water.
-
Control minds.
-
All for ourselves
and nothing for other people
-
seems to have been,
in every age of the world,
-
the vile maxim
of the masters of mankind.
-
All for ourselves
and nothing for other people.
-
It's Adam Smith who said that,
Adam Smith, the father of capitalism.
-
He knew that was the tendency.
-
All for ourselves
and nothing for other people.
-
The Universal Declaration
of Human Rights
-
is what should be available
-
for people throughout the world.
-
We should not accept that anyone
is denied those basic human rights,
-
the basic human right
to live a decent life,
-
to have access
-
to food, shelter and education.
-
It is unacceptable
that in today's world,
-
there are children dying of hunger.
-
It is unacceptable
that in today's world,
-
there are children
who have no shelter.
-
To prepare myself for this question,
I used the Internet, Wikipedia,
-
and I re-read the United Nations
Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
-
and it made me cry.
-
I just wept. It is so beautiful.
-
Let's put it in every passport.
-
My father was exterminated
at the age of 37,
-
my mother at the same age.
-
My sisters were exterminated
-
at the age of fourteen and six
and twelve and sixteen.
-
I survived, and life has become
very precious for me.
-
And I assume it is also precious
for every human being on this planet.
-
And yet it is often taken away
for the wrong reasons.
-
We teach our children that our lives
are worth more than other people's.
-
Outsiders,
people with a different colour skin,
-
people that have less than we do,
people that don't speak our language.
-
People...
-
The other. The other people.
-
What happens oftentimes
is that those people
-
are really seen
as "them" and not "us",
-
and there's not much attention
paid to or much concern for
-
the basic rights and dignities
of those people.
-
But I think you have to think about
what "we" means in this question.
-
Who are "we" and who are "they"?
-
Babies, when they cry,
you cannot distinguish
-
whether it's a boy, a girl,
what their nationality is,
-
or what the mother's religion is.
-
It's only one voice.
-
Don't forget. It's only one sound.
We must remember this.
-
I guess if people really
saw each other as their brother,
-
and could imagine
that each person out there
-
was their child or relative,
it would be really different.
-
If we could really
open our hearts that wide.
-
Everyone can gain
-
human dignity for themselves.
-
Before this, though,
one must leave behind
-
the self-imposed oppression
of politics, ideology, religion,
-
and nationalistic narrow-mindedness.
-
I come...
-
I come from the jungle,
-
where I lived most of my life
with tribes,
-
and where
-
the question of freedom
-
is much more meaningful
than it is here.
-
I've never known any beings
that are more free than they are,
-
the indigenous people.
-
No, I never have.
-
Do you believe this project
can change something?
-
I knew it from the moment
that this murmur first began,
-
and this babble of voices.
-
It sent a shiver down my spine,
-
and I realized that
something will come of this.
-
I was reminded
a little of "Wings of Desire".
-
There are these angels
which hear all these voices.
-
There's a similar kind
of murmur the whole time.
-
I could hear this same murmur here,
only it was real.
-
All these people
were actually thinking aloud.
-
Oh, hey! Did you see Bianca?
I think she's over there.
-
There she is.
-
I think she showed up late.
-
Can you do me a big favour?
-
Don't move it when I'm talking,
because that immediately...
-
Could you do it before or after
or when I stop talking,
-
because if you do it when I'm talking
my concentration...
-
-I do it when I get notes from others.
-Sure.
-
Question 28 from Andrew,
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22, Frankfurt, Germany.
-
"What if all Chinese people
want a car?"
-
Please begin.
-
This question is a bit racist.
-
Why not?
-
Everybody needs a car.
-
Why do you only talk
about the Chinese?
-
If you go to America,
every family has more than three cars.
-
Why Chinese? Everybody wants a car.
-
Italian, French and German people
that don't have a car, want a car.
-
What if all Indians want a car?
-
What if all Africans want a car?
-
If all Chinese people
wanted to have a car,
-
and assuming
that they would want to drive
-
the biggest, fastest
and most powerful cars,
-
then the skies above us would darken.
-
Not enough roads, many accidents,
-
not enough car parking space,
-
too much pollution.
-
What if all Chinese people want a car?
-
Then all German people
-
must be turned into automobile workers
-
to produce cars for the Chinese
until all the Germans are exhausted.
-
It's an impossible story.
-
The car of today in the wealthy world
-
utilizes 2 to 3 percent of the energy
in the gas tank
-
to actually move the driver.
-
The rest is lost
in moving the weight of the frame,
-
and the weight of the engine,
lost in heat and friction.
-
We've devised an enormously
sophisticated set
-
of very badly designed vehicles.
-
Just to move one person
from one place to another.
-
Petroleum prices will continue
their sharp upward movement.
-
And economic chaos
in the West, at the most,
-
or, at the very least,
the grim, inevitable realization
-
that something has to be done
-
about the excess consumption
of fossil fuels
-
in the United States of America
and other Western countries
-
will be impressed
upon people's consciousness.
-
China, for a long time,
-
was a nation of bicycles.
-
I'm encouraged that Chinese automakers
-
are looking
at the ecological impacts of the cars
-
and working very hard
at thinking about electric cars.
-
China has a huge opportunity,
-
and a huge responsibility
-
to industrialize in a way
that works for its people,
-
and for its environment,
-
and for the world.
-
What's behind the question
is not so much the Chinese people,
-
but a metaphor for a situation,
which is clearly unsustainable.
-
We cannot ask of them
-
what we're not prepared
to do ourselves.
-
What we need to do
is learn from our mistakes,
-
from the way we've lived,
from irrational and irresponsible ways
-
in which we have lived our life.
-
The problem is not
how many people want a car,
-
but that the door to human desires
-
has been opened interminably.
-
How can we close the door again
-
after opening it to our infinite,
possessive desires?
-
-Everything okay?
-Everything okay.
-
-How you doing?
-Good. A little bit exhausted.
-
-That's too much?
-Yeah.
-
This is just so cool
to be here doing this.
-
-Is it?
-The Nazis burned the books here.
-
Oh, now I get it. That stack of books
is there because of that.
-
Jesus, I didn't realize that...
-
Willem.
How many questions do you have left?
-
-After all these questions.
-You want to know?
-
I'm speaking so much
about all the problems.
-
I'm setting it all on fire!
-
-Am I doing okay?
-Question 33...
-
is from the New York-based novelist,
-
Siri Hustvedt, who asks...
-
I'm very curious to know, to find out,
-
how consumer culture
-
actually influences
-
the personalities,
the ways people live,
-
the way they think,
-
inside themselves, in a given culture.
-
How it becomes part of us,
-
and what it means to be able to resist
-
that visual and verbal culture,
it seems to me...
-
"It seems to me, it's always reducing"
-
"and simplifying reality
into something"
-
"that can be easily bought and sold."
-
I think...
-
Consumer culture...
-
It functions to keep creating
-
a desire in the society,
in the community,
-
that there is something new,
something better, more useful...
-
Man needs nothing.
-
He needs only himself.
-
He needs love.
-
There are enough coffee pots
in the world.
-
We're surrounded by enough gadgets.
There are enough chairs.
-
Use one of the many hundreds
that are already there,
-
and then put your extra energy into
developing things that really matter.
-
All this forms part of a culture
of prostitution.
-
Our values have become prostituted,
-
and humanity
is just a big prostitution machine.
-
We created monsters,
-
monsters of agricultural development.
-
McDonald's cows are killed and there's
no ceremony of killing the animal.
-
There's no honouring, no thanking
the animal for providing food for us.
-
So when there's no ceremony,
the food we eat becomes bad.
-
And guess what?
-
Where McDonald's is eaten
-
people become sick.
-
What do you expect?
There's no ceremony.
-
The most powerful people
on the face of the planet
-
are the ones
who can affect the most minds, who...
-
who can influence human behaviour,
-
and social movements,
-
and the way in which
societies view themselves,
-
the way they walk, the way they talk,
things they eat, they drink and so on.
-
It's all a matter of economics.
-
It's a model that is destroying us.
-
It's a model that is consuming us.
-
What we really need to look at
-
is the free market itself,
-
and see how we
can really bring in
-
the whole aspect of ethics.
-
Wealth in order to share, to care,
-
and to live happily
with oneself and others.
-
And the deepest, the best wealth,
is how to serve others.
-
Question 37
-
is from Tom Henze,
30, Berlin, Germany.
-
"Does our wealth
depend on the Third World being poor?"
-
The expression "Third World"
is truly an arrogant claim.
-
It is not a Third World,
it's just a world
-
that has developed differently
or hasn't developed as fast.
-
But it is not the Third World.
What's the First World then?
-
What is that definition
of the Third World anyway?
-
Is there a First World,
a Second World and a Third World?
-
Not really.
-
One world?
-
Not doing so well?
Humans fucking it up?
-
I mean, if our wealth depends
on the Third World being poor,
-
then we're in trouble,
we're in trouble...
-
They started by taking the gold away.
-
But for indigenous people
-
gold didn't have the same value
as it did for capitalists.
-
Africa has been the cradle of mankind,
-
and I stand very clearly on this,
and say that Africa
-
is also going to be
the deathbed of capitalism.
-
Oh plundered Africa...
-
Africa, terrible Africa.
-
It's impossible to talk about Africa
without feeling...
-
without feeling our hearts twinge.
-
Those who are well-fed
never understand
-
what it feels like to be hungry.
-
A Nigerian chief said:
-
"If you won't share your wealth,
we'll share our poverty with you."
-
If you want global peace, we have
to talk about equitable distribution.
-
We also have to understand
that all of the resources
-
are shared by all and they are,
first of all, for those in need.
-
Real property is property by need.
It comes about through need.
-
When I need a glass of water,
then it is mine by right of need.
-
Fair... "Fair" is not a word
-
that you hear in economics too much.
-
There is a connection
that we have to make
-
as to the poverty of the people,
-
the wealth of the land,
and be observant as to
-
where this wealth is going.
-
What I believe
globalization is really about
-
is forming global family,
moving out of what I call
-
a juvenile species mode
of hostile competition,
-
and into a more mature mode
of cooperation.
-
This has happened to many
species all through evolution
-
and it's our turn now as humans
to do this.
-
I make it very simple.
-
One is joining
in the generosity of the divine,
-
which is a power of giving.
-
All life is given to us.
-
And those who do that
are "for giving".
-
And if your life
is centred around getting,
-
then you're joining in the culture
of "for getting".
-
So the choice is to be part of
"for getting" and being forgotten,
-
or part of "for giving"
and being forgiven.
-
I like that!
That's great.
-
-He said it for me, my neighbour.
-Repeat. Repeat.
-
Yes. Can you come and sit in my seat
and say it for me?
-
I would like it if we had
more interaction in this process.
-
I'm enlivened
by sharing with somebody.
-
My brain doesn't, my brain doesn't...
I mean, this! Talking to you...
-
Talking to you!
-
-Hi, sweetheart.
Hi! How are you?
-
Are you having fun, baby?
-
-Are you having fun?
-Yeah.
-
Because you're so smart.
You're such a genius.
-
Answers just roll off your tongue.
-
-I don't know, I don't know.
-I don't know!
-
We're part of a big experiment.
-
It's not about the questions.
This is about us.
-
Go ahead.
-
Thank you.
-
While you were giving your answers
to that last question,
-
I walked through the circle and could
see all your faces, hear your voices,
-
see your expressions.
-
And it was deeply moving
for me to see
-
everything that I saw
as I walked through the circle.
-
It's such a diverse group
that we have here.
-
We're our own United Nations!
-
I saw people from Africa,
from Asia, Australia,
-
from Europe and the Americas.
-
It's beautiful that we're all here
investing in the future.
-
Question 41.
-
From Adrienn Meszaros,
30, Budapest, Hungary.
-
"Is there a modern version
of colonialism?"
-
Yes.
-
There is a modern version
of colonialism.
-
And it's called debt.
-
It is called debt,
-
followed by
the structural adjustment policies
-
imposed by the World Bank
and the International Monetary Fund.
-
A lot of this money
coming to developing countries
-
is used to control the sovereignty
of our own governments,
-
of our own people...
-
The Bank and the Fund say,
if you're going to pay back your debt,
-
and you must pay back your debt,
-
then you have to put interest rates
way up...
-
That makes it harder for businesses
to borrow and to employ people.
-
You've got to privatize
everything in sight,
-
so that gives big opportunities
-
to foreign companies and local elites
-
to buy up all of
the previously public companies.
-
The United States of America
was itself built
-
on the decimation of an entire people.
-
Europe has been built
-
on sucking out the Congo,
-
on sucking out
the gold and diamonds of South Africa.
-
Slavery was about
the exploitation of raw materials.
-
Today it's about oil.
-
Today it's about diamonds,
minerals and primary resources.
-
The countries...
-
the Latin American countries,
-
continue to suffer exploitation,
-
the exploitation of their resources.
-
All of these policies
have been very beneficial
-
to a tiny minority
of the people in these countries.
-
Just like vampires.
They are vampires!
-
They use the energy,
the strength and the lives of others,
-
for their own economic prosperity.
-
It's modern economic colonialism
based on globalization,
-
but its structure
is almost exactly the same
-
as it has been for
four or five hundred years.
-
It's better than colonialism,
because it doesn't need an army.
-
It doesn't need an administration.
-
It doesn't cost you anything,
the state, the powers intervening...
-
"We are children of a world
that has enough for everyone."
-
"But so many remain hungry,
while so few are well fed."
-
"One will eat, the other suffers."
-
"This is how it's always been."
-
"Other nations must be poor,
so that rich ones can be rich."
-
And this is a really ideal system,
-
because it isn't even very visible.
-
Colonialism is visible.
-
People think this is rotten.
Those pictures taken.
-
But debt is invisible, and it works
just as well, even more efficiently.
-
I don't like to be sitting here
as an American talking about this,
-
but this is the underbelly
of the real world that we live in.
-
It's very real.
It has caused enormous misery,
-
and we have to know
what's going on in our world
-
in order to change it.
-
There must be
some democratic forms of life
-
and forms of organization
-
that can sidestep all imperial
-
and colonial forms of subjugation.
-
That's the great question
of the 21st Century.
-
Question 45
from Katharina, 24, Germany.
-
"Why do we still believe more
in nationality than in humanity?"
-
It is by the conditioning of mind
that we are
-
trained, trained, trained
all the time,
-
that we are part of
a national identity.
-
That is how we see it.
-
And, within a nation,
again it gets down to
-
smaller and smaller
and smaller identities...
-
And so we are fearful.
-
We have been put into a framework
to protect ourselves.
-
We're so insecure.
-
We do not know who is for us,
and who is not for us,
-
and that has destroyed humanity.
-
Let me give you an example.
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In Iraq now, my country Iraq,
-
most people cling to
-
and trust
-
only their own people,
-
or their neighbours,
or others from their city.
-
Before, we did not ask
who a person was,
-
where they came from,
from which city,
-
from which tribe or family.
-
We would be friendly, that's all.
-
It is security,
psychological security,
-
that enables people to feel
an expanded sense of self,
-
that enables them
to respect difference.
-
It is when people feel frightened,
scared, cut off,
-
that intolerance grows,
-
and in the nation states today
people are being manipulated
-
through the mass media
-
to learn to hate the other,
whom they have never met.
-
We live in a world,
where we have been conditioned
-
to be tribal, to be nativist,
-
to be nationalist.
-
Of course,
it's important to understand
-
that nationalism is really fanaticism.
-
I believe that within each of us
-
there is a racist dictator.
-
I'm convinced of this.
-
Because we are closer to the family
than we are to the clan,
-
closer to the clan than to the tribe,
-
closer to the tribe
than to the nation,
-
closer to the nation
than to humanity.
-
I don't believe in nationality at all,
-
and I think more and more of us
in the 21st Century,
-
children of the world of possibility,
children of the future tense,
-
live in the passageways between
nations, cultures and categories,
-
outside the traditional definitions.
-
Our affiliations are not to nations,
-
or to the traditional order,
but to something beyond that.
-
I believe that, to a certain extent,
-
the concept of nationality
is beginning to erode
-
as we turn into a kind of
genuinely transnational people.
-
Sometimes the worst enemy
-
is our own perception.
-
Thank you.
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Question 48 from Glen,
Cape Town, South Africa.
-
"How do we stop
our governments from going to war?"
-
I come from a land
where there has never been a war,
-
so I do not know anything about war,
-
but I do know of the suffering
you people have experienced.
-
Me? I come from the land of peace.
-
Where nothing but peace
had been in existence.
-
Where no one fears being shot.
-
Where no one is aiming at you.
-
Where no one fights for land.
-
We go to war: you, me, us.
-
Governments don't go to war.
Governments send us to war.
-
We pay the price,
-
and the price that we pay
is not only physical.
-
The price that we pay is psychic.
-
We lose our moral groundedness.
We lose ourselves.
-
It's really a shame.
-
The big powers should be ashamed
-
of what they are doing
with the civilizations. Killing them?
-
I'm a survivor of war in Bosnia.
-
For three and a half years
of my childhood,
-
millions of bombs exploded
in my city, and...
-
To hear a bomb explode
is an experience
-
that can't be explained or described,
-
because you feel it in your body.
-
I remember
just my whole body reacting
-
to such loudness and destruction.
-
My heart would jump every time,
millions of times.
-
There were times when it felt like
my heart could no longer take it,
-
like it would just burst
into millions of pieces.
-
We're nothing but collateral damage.
We're not talking about numbers.
-
We're not talking about
destroyed lives or families.
-
We're talking about collateral damage.
It's just numbing.
-
Because we're not seeing a face.
It is distant.
-
The political process has lost touch
-
with the reality that war
is only about economics.
-
It is incomprehensible how,
nowadays,
-
the world powers
-
can spend so much money on death.
-
We've lost our connection to
-
our responsibility
for what our governments do.
-
And we get lost in our powerlessness,
-
and we think we can change it
in a few moments.
-
People marched
against the war and it didn't work,
-
so everyone goes back to living
their lives again,
-
while what they
went to the streets for has become
-
a greater nightmare
than they could have ever imagined.
-
Why was it so horrible then
-
and not so horrible now
that no one's in the streets?
-
How you stop the government
is a very difficult question.
-
The only way one could do it
is by overthrowing that government,
-
by a revolution.
-
But then the notion of revolution
in our time is so archaic, so dépassé.
-
We don't think
in those terms anymore,
-
but that is the only way
to stop a government.
-
The most important step
-
that all the women of the world
can take
-
is not to give their children away
-
to be turned into soldiers,
to be turned into killers.
-
I come from a region where we all
started to hate each other,
-
and to kill each other savagely
-
as if the others were no longer human.
-
We have these disasters in which,
in a very short period of time,
-
a massive amount of destructive power
can be brought to bear.
-
The governments doing this
must be replaced.
-
The leaders individually responsible
for these actions
-
must be held to justice.
-
We've seen a wonderful trend
in the past twenty years
-
with General Pinochet
and a number of others,
-
whose actions led to genocide,
led to disappearances, led to death,
-
being brought before
world courts of justice.
-
So we must move to a world
in which every leader
-
is held accountable in the same way,
-
with the feeling that their actions
will be judged.
-
As a human being I feel that...
What is today's war?
-
We are killing each other
and it's something that
-
is taking peace away
from a lot of people.
-
Question 56.
-
From Moise Marabout, 23,
-
Agadez, Niger.
-
"Why is there no peace
in the Middle East yet?"
-
This question is extremely,
extremely, extremely,
-
extremely close to my heart
as an Israeli.
-
I can only say that, the way I see it,
-
there's no peace in the Middle East,
-
because of the vanity of Israel.
-
As long as justice is not addressed,
-
we will not have peace.
-
Peace is not a moment
between conflicts,
-
but a continuous state
one lives and strives for.
-
The only peace now
-
is false peace,
-
peace based upon lack of trust.
-
Oil.
-
I believe the reason is
that there are fanatics on both sides.
-
On both sides.
-
You can't ignore the fact that we are
deeply scarred as a people,
-
but instead of
trying to heal ourselves
-
by recognizing
that we must use compassion,
-
love and forgiveness,
-
and engage in dialogue eye to eye,
-
we keep hiding behind
our supposed righteousness,
-
but there is no such thing.
-
We feel like we can do anything,
because of what was done to us.
-
I believe Palestinians and Israelis
want to be able to coexist together.
-
The whole argument
that we were here first
-
that they were here first,
is irrelevant.
-
We are all visitors on this planet.
-
We are all strangers
walking on borrowed land.
-
Once Palestinians and Israelis
live equally with self-respect,
-
with respect to each other
and solidarity,
-
it will echo to the entire world.
-
It will stop these stupid battles
-
of the state deciding between the
culture of the West and the Muslims.
-
It's such bullshit.
In Israel and Palestine we can prove
-
that together this can be the most
beautiful culture one can have.
-
I know I sound like a dreamer...
-
In my country, in my community,
we normally say...
-
which means,
-
"Where two bulls fight, normally
the grass is the one that suffers."
-
Question 61 from Wolfgang Jost,
-
23, Berlin, Germany...
-
"Why is an Iranian nuclear bomb"
-
"supposed to be more dangerous
than an American, Israeli or French?"
-
Let us not ask this question
in America or France or in Israel.
-
But let us ask this question
-
in Algeria or in Iraq,
-
or in Lebanon or in Palestine...
-
Or even Japan!
-
August 7, 1945.
-
America dropped a bomb on Hiroshima.
-
Some hundred thousand people
were killed, school children,
-
civilians,
and the killing went on for years,
-
because of the atomic consequences.
-
Who has really been using
those bombs, practically?
-
Until now, just the USA.
-
Iran pledges, promises,
to destroy Israel.
-
And there is no doubt that
if Iran were to have a nuclear bomb,
-
it would keep its promise.
-
Israel? Israel's bombs?
-
Where do they come from?
-
We make those.
-
We sell them to Israel.
-
The American, Israeli and French bombs
should be eliminated.
-
France and the United States
have a legal obligation to do so
-
under
the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
-
And Israel has a security interest
-
in really resolving the conflicts in
its region through non-violent means.
-
As long as some have nuclear weapons
others will want them.
-
As long as they want them,
they'll get them.
-
And as long as they exist,
it's inevitable
-
that either through accident
or design, they will be used.
-
Any use is catastrophic,
therefore they must be abolished.
-
Why do we have to have a nuclear bomb?
-
We shouldn't be...
If we were to start all over again,
-
no one would say that it was
a good idea to build nuclear bombs.
-
Insane!
-
Who would we be if we didn't live
in the shadow of the atomic bomb?
-
We would be very different people.
-
Would we live in this sense of fear
that is manipulated
-
by external powers so easily?
-
Would we still be allowing
the level of violence that we allow?
-
I don't think so.
-
I think we could have found
some wonderful ways
-
to deal with conflict
that wasn't violence.
-
And I do think
that who we are in the 21st Century
-
has deeply been affected
-
by the technological advances
in weaponry.
-
I don't think we fully understand
-
what that's done to our humanity,
what it's done
-
to American citizens
to have used the atomic bomb.
-
I think that contributes to how...
-
how violent our own inner nature is.
-
It has contributed
to the level of depression,
-
the level of addictions,
-
the disconnect and denial...
-
I think it would be
a very different world,
-
a very different world,
-
certainly one
more caring and generous...
-
Thank you.
-
Question 62 is from
-
the writer and activist Arundhati Roy.
-
"Between non-violent resistance
and armed struggle where do we go?"
-
"What is effective?"
"What is the right thing to do?"
-
"Or do we need
a biodiversity of resistance?"
-
Arundhati, if you could sit here
and hear this murmur...
-
and see all these faces.
-
I like the term
"biodiversity of resistance".
-
This is a great question
-
and I'm not sure
if we are the ones to answer it.
-
I would prefer to say that
I prefer a non-violent resistance.
-
I wish this resistance would make it.
-
But we are not the ones to choose
the resistance of the oppressed.
-
We certainly need
a variety of forms of resistance.
-
Armed struggle
must be the last resort,
-
and something
that we are very, very mindful of
-
and oftentimes suspicious of.
-
And yet there are conditions
under which armed struggle
-
becomes necessary.
-
For the most part we must deploy
-
all forms of non-violent resistance
and struggle,
-
understanding non-violence
as something active,
-
as something that's vital and vibrant,
-
something that requires our sacrifice,
our suffering,
-
something that allows us
to accent the best in ourselves
-
and the best in others.
-
The struggle for change
-
in every single place
where struggle has been successful
-
has employed what you term
a "biodiversity" of tactics.
-
From non-violent resistance
-
to political organizing,
to speechmaking
-
to armed struggle.
-
Legitimate armed struggle
based on the principles laid down by
-
the African National Congress
and Che Guevara,
-
to distinguish between mere terrorism,
-
violence for its own sake
with unnecessary casualties,
-
and armed struggle that is undertaken
to mobilize and protect
-
an oppressed majority.
-
As an organizer,
whatever decision I make
-
and whatever movement
I'm engaged in, I have to ask myself:
-
Can I live with the impact
of the tactic I'm going to use?
-
It never happens
that when change is taking place,
-
that it does not affect others.
-
There are always victims of change.
-
Ask yourself:
How much are you willing to give?
-
How convinced are you of your goal?
-
And then you can choose the weapons.
-
It could be a pen, it could be a gun,
-
it could be a camera, it could be
a piece of paper, it could be a knife,
-
it could be your life.
-
We can accomplish a lot
with non-violent resistance.
-
But are there times
when armed struggles are justified?
-
Are revolutions justified?
-
Concentrating on resistance,
there's something wrong with that.
-
We're not just
concentrating on resistance.
-
We have to create "attractance".
-
We have to create a new paradigm,
which is attractive to go to.
-
If everyone were to bloom
in their own beauty... Imagine that!
-
Everyone sitting in a circle at this
table blooming in their own beauty.
-
Yes, Arundhati,
-
we need biodiversity on Earth.
-
It's everyone's language,
everyone's culture,
-
everyone's spiritual understanding.
-
At this very moment,
you can see around me
-
a circle that represents
a global community
-
where there is diversity,
diversity of thought,
-
diversity of ideas,
diversity of concepts.
-
Is anyone there listening to us?
-
At any time?
-
It will probably
be catapulted into the world
-
like a discus.
-
Great.
-
Yes? Does that sound good?
Oh good.
-
Can you take your head off?
-
So you can really feel
what's going on around you,
-
sense what's going on around you.
-
Or are you still
in your mind, thinking?
-
-Our friend the camera.
-Guys!
-
Whatever you hear from me,
if there is one smart thing,
-
take it and the rest please erase
it...
-
You also went to the centre.
How was the centre?
-
It was really good. It's amazing.
You can click onto the different...
-
You can go to any camera.
-
Question 75.
-
From Sara Francis,
35, Dublin, Ireland.
-
"What does courage mean now?"
-
"Courage is something
I appreciate so much in a person."
-
"I salute people who have courage."
-
"Courage helps you to continue
to live your day-to-day life."
-
"Courage is something...
Step by step, you go up!"
-
It takes courage to be a human being.
It takes courage to be!
-
Solitude is courage.
Hermetics. Total neutrality.
-
To be unsure of yourself is courage.
-
Courage is so many things.
-
Courage is the courage
of Aung San Suu Kyi,
-
who is being kept
-
incommunicado
and under house arrest.
-
Courage is the courage of
-
the young students
in Tiananmen Square.
-
We risk our lives
in many different ways.
-
I've never really risked mine,
so I can't say.
-
I've never lived
in truly dangerous situations.
-
The way so many people
around this table have done.
-
To put it simply,
to be willing to die.
-
Yes, to be willing to die.
-
To have the courage
to take the risk to die,
-
to defend who I am and what I'm doing.
-
Well, I mean,
we're sitting in a square,
-
where the adventure of Nazism
-
took over
this beautiful country of Germany,
-
and distorted the laws of justice
-
in a most gross and horrific fashion.
-
Imagine the courage of people
that broke the laws of the state
-
to honour the higher law
-
of caring for human life.
-
You don't know
that Chinese prison labour camps
-
are similar to Soviet gulags,
-
or German concentration camps.
-
About 40 or 50 million people
lost their lives there.
-
I was there for 19 years,
-
before I made it to America.
-
I didn't want to talk about this,
-
but finally I have,
-
because we have only one lifetime.
-
What would Argentina have been
without the courage
-
of the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo,
-
who stood up to the dictatorships
and terrorism
-
of the Generals Videla,
Massera and Agosti,
-
who "disappeared" thousands of people
by throwing them into the sea.
-
What would have become of us
-
without the lesson in courage
taught by these mothers,
-
who stood before the Casa de Gobierno
every Thursday
-
with the portraits
of their disappeared sons?
-
Courage means to understand
-
that these powers are not invincible,
-
as is being demonstrated
by people in the world,
-
who, with courage and indignation,
-
have managed to expel
transnationals from their countries,
-
have managed to overthrow
-
and topple governments.
-
Courage has everything to do with
-
looking at the future in the face,
-
always acknowledging
an element of the unknown,
-
but believing that if one sacrifices,
-
if one suffers,
-
if one takes a risk
and allows oneself to be vulnerable,
-
that one can still make a difference.
-
We should keep this in mind
-
and it should make us
all the more radical and motivated,
-
as we don't risk our lives,
-
just a little boredom,
-
a little ostracism,
a little of our well-being.
-
Courage is also not just about
changing this world.
-
It is really also about ensuring
-
that the present day world
does not change me.
-
Question 78.
-
From Nancy Clemons, 57,
Cameron, Missouri, USA...
-
"What can I do, and tell others to do,
to stop global warming?"
-
"What can I do, and tell others to do,
to stop global warming?"
-
Please begin.
-
This is a big question.
-
Quite simply, future generations
will not be able to understand
-
our delirium of destruction.
-
There's nothing we can do
to stop global warming.
-
The ice is going to
carry on melting away.
-
And now the question is:
Who will live?
-
Who will live a life worth living?
-
We know that many will perish.
-
We know that many more
will barely survive with no life.
-
Few will have a life worthy of living.
-
I pray to the Great One
and ask him again and pray again
-
that you and me will be able
to have a life worthy of living.
-
Because no matter
what you and I do today
-
there's no way of returning.
-
The ice will carry on melting
until it has ceased to exist.
-
Actually,
we can't stop global warming any more.
-
As an evolution biologist,
I firmly believe
-
that we cannot stop it any more.
-
However, we can slow it down.
-
Global warming is not about science.
It's about experience.
-
Science will give us the facts,
the data and it may move us to act.
-
But how we move
each other to act is a question
-
more of the heart than of the head.
-
We are all part of the problem,
-
but we can also be
part of the solution.
-
I could make a contribution
if I stop driving my car.
-
Transitions to bio fuels
and even large-scale wind and solar
-
would probably
not be sufficient to sustain
-
an industrial system
at the present scale.
-
So the answer is powering down.
-
Right now, hundreds of communities
are starting to take these steps.
-
They are engaged
in what is called "power down".
-
They are looking at
how they as communities
-
can take steps right now
to localize their economies.
-
They realize that if oil prices
shoot up or if there's scarcity,
-
they may find
the supermarket shelves empty.
-
That they won't
be able to heat their homes,
-
that they won't be able to travel.
-
We must talk about how to control
-
our cheap desire.
-
I think something
we can all do worldwide
-
is to shame and ridicule
the people who are polluting.
-
There won't be any state of emergency.
-
We have been for thousands of years
-
in a state of emergency.
-
We delude ourselves into thinking
-
that these problems are the creation
-
of our nation, government,
religion or race,
-
but this is not so.
-
The problem lies within
-
each individual's consciousness.
-
I don't believe in humankind.
No, I don't.
-
I tell you, I'm embarrassed
to belong to that race.
-
And at the same time,
I'm fascinated by it.
-
La belle et la bestia.
-
Question 83
-
is from the photographer
Sebastião Salgado
-
of Aimorés, Minas Gerais, Brazil...
-
"Can a person be perceptive enough
to see our planet"
-
"in a way that tells them
that they too are part of nature?"
-
We all start seeing clearer
and clearer the damage that's done.
-
We see it at our doorsteps.
-
We see and feel the climate changes,
the droughts and the flooding,
-
the storms and the heat.
-
We breathe the bad air.
-
We suffer from allergies.
-
We miss the taste in food.
-
We watch the forest die,
-
the animals and plants
endangered and disappearing.
-
And more and more of us understand
-
that the planet does not belong to us,
-
but that we belong to the Earth.
-
Since the 20th Century,
-
when man was able to escape gravity
and move into space,
-
we had pictures,
beautiful pictures of our planet,
-
that little bluish globe
floating through the universe.
-
As you look at those pictures, you
become almost sentimental and think:
-
I live on this planet,
I am part of this planet.
-
Go out into a field
and lie down at night
-
and look down into the stars.
-
Pretend gravity has you glued
to the bottom of the planet,
-
because how do you know
which way is up?
-
The reason why little children
love animals is because
-
we have co-evolved
with the rest of creation.
-
We have lived close to nature
for almost all our evolution.
-
This little blip of modern life
cut off from the Earth,
-
cut off from other animals
and cut off from one another
-
has only happened,
-
because we've also become
cut off from ourselves,
-
from our own hearts,
from our own bodies.
-
Nature makes the most sophisticated
materials on the planet
-
out of carbohydrates.
-
We too can learn how to do that.
-
But we have thought ourselves
to be superior to nature.
-
We haven't looked at her four and
a half billion years of experience
-
in incredible technologies.
-
Take a wasps' nest.
-
It's a building
that hangs from a single thread
-
made of material so light
that it can hold
-
three hundred times
its own weight in inhabitants.
-
Can we learn
to make buildings like that?
-
Can we grow skyscrapers from
the bottom up the way a reed grows,
-
by building new cells at the bottom
of it and pushing itself upward?
-
We have so much to learn from nature.
-
It is by our own free choice,
-
by our personal efforts,
-
that we will achieve
balance with nature
-
and so become like all of nature.
-
Then we will feel
-
the eternity, perfection and harmony
-
that is everywhere in nature
-
except within our ourselves.
-
Everything we eat,
everything we wear,
-
all our houses, all our objects
come from the living Earth.
-
Learning how to live from that Earth
in a way that is sustainable
-
is not utopian, is not a dream.
-
What stands between us
and that possibility
-
is the idea that it can't be done,
-
the idea that they are too powerful,
-
that corporations can't change,
-
the idea
that people don't want change,
-
the idea that all of this comes
from innate human greed,
-
that it comes from overpopulation.
-
The planet is too crowded,
-
therefore it's not possible
to provide for people.
-
All of these are myths
that need to be reassessed,
-
assumptions that need to be rethought.
-
Question 96 comes from Miraj Khaled,
-
30, from Dhaka, Bangladesh.
-
"What is God's religion?", she asks.
-
"What is God's religion?"
Please begin.
-
I loved that question when I saw it,
-
because I think it's very perceptive.
-
Which God?
-
Which Religion?
-
What God? Whose God?
-
Whichever way we want to take it,
-
we must respect how others
-
see this word "God".
-
God is a way of defining
-
certain archetypes,
-
certain expectations
-
and objectives.
-
God is "is-ness".
-
God is spirit. God is not religion.
God doesn't have a religion.
-
God doesn't exist.
-
The religion of my Goddess
-
is reflected
in every corner of the world,
-
in every... leaf,
-
in every speck of dirt,
-
in every... flower.
-
No, I don't believe
that God has a religion.
-
I think that religion
is a profoundly human phenomenon.
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When we talk about
God having a religion,
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you can rest assured
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that we're talking about
some human construction,
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some human creation.
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What we project onto Him.
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I am of Love.
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I am of the Universe.
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I am God in Action.
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There is no God.
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God is a symbol for something
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that we can't express in words.
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And that's also why
there's no God's religion.
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God, we have to imagine, is something
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that is not only unknown to us,
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but is also beyond our knowledge,
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that has no quality of being known.
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It's as if
we were to ask the question,
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what is the colour of a circle?
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Is it red, green or blue?
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It's neither blue nor red nor green.
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It's also not colourless.
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The question about the colour
of the circle is absurd,
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because a circle knows no colour.
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Many people are unwilling to see this.
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They take a pen out of their pocket,
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draw a circle on a piece of paper
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and say, "Look, this circle is blue."
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Yes, the circle drawn by them is blue,
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but the colour comes from my pen,
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and not from the circle.
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The colour of the pen is the religion
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with which we express the divinity,
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but we cannot
draw the circle ourselves.
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It is something
that has nothing to do with colours.
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There are as many religions
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as there are colours
with which I can draw a circle.
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I really like that one.
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I believe in God,
but all I know about God is,
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there is a God and it isn't me.
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That's all I know so far.
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Don't you think
God is in you as well?
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Oh absolutely. Absolutely.
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Most of my whole thing
with spirituality is...
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I'm a recovering heroin addict.
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I haven't met God yet.
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If I meet Him one day,
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then I will ask Him the questions.
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-Thank you.
-Thank you, too.
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-Last one.
-Question...
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-100!
-100.
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-Last one.
-I didn't think we'd make it!
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Okay, last question. Let's do it.
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From Keith Dierkx, 48,
Piedmont, California, USA.
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"What are the myths
that we need to create"
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"to change the world for the better?"
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Creation stories are part of every
culture in human history,
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and they were usually told
by some kind of a priesthood.
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But now science
tells the creation story.
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It has been elevated
to that status of priesthood
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that gets to tell
the big story to the culture.
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What story is it telling us?
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That we live in a non-living,
purposeless universe
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running down by entropy.
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Oh! How cheery is that
for a creation story?
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And then we add in
that evolution on this planet
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is about the survival of the fittest,
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about an endless competition
in scarcity,
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and that you have to get
what you can while you can
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and beat the other guy to it.
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This is a totally depressing
creation story,
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a universe running down meaninglessly,
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you're stuck
in an endless struggle in scarcity.
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This is a terrible story to tell.
It doesn't fit the scientific facts.
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Every force in nature has an opposite.
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If there's entropy,
there has to be syntropy.
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In evolution there's a tremendous
amount of cooperation.
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In fact, I'd say there's a great story
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in the maturation cycle
of evolving species,
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where they first are young and grabby
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they multiply
and take all the territory they can,
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bump off their competitors,
act like capitalists.
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And then they discover, bit by bit,
the advantages of cooperation.
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And, as they do so, they build bigger
and bigger cooperative enterprises
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and find out
that their economies are cheaper,
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more effective, more efficient,
work for everybody,
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and you get
the evolution of rainforests,
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and human bodies
made of a hundred trillion cells,
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working in complete cooperation
even though they're so diverse.
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This is a story we need to tell
in the world, a great new story
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of the human species
growing up into global family,
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doing win-win economics
and making a better world for all.
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Human beings are appreciators,
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not just observers
but appreciators, participants,
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even co-creators
of the cosmic process.
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The whole world is deeply entangled.
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All the living organisms,
all the parts of the universe.
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The whole universe is living,
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the electrons
and the protons and everything.
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They are all organisms.
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They all have a history
and they are all entangled so deeply,
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intimately interconnected,
that you cannot separate them.
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And, at any moment,
this entangled universe
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is creating
and recreating itself anew.
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That, I think,
is the evolution of the cosmos,
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the evolution of all things in it
from atoms, to humans, to galaxies.
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That is the objective.
That is the ambition.
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That is the ultimate aim
of divine creativity.
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That's as far as we can come
as human beings to understand it.
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I believe
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in a measure of humility,
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and in a measure of humanity,
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and in an avowal of beauty
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as an antidote to all the brutality,
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and cruelty of the world.
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I believe
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that the sacred lives in nature,
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not only in the supernatural,
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but also in the beauty of nature.
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I believe
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human beings
are metaphysical animals,
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and always will be
because of their mortality.
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The human is the only animal
that knows it must die.
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This is the source of the mystery,
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of the unending mystery
of human existence.
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It would have to do
with the marrying of the mind,
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the soul,
and this corporeal little covering
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that is supposed to be the body.
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The marriage of all those,
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if it indeed be that,
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can only be powered by positivity.
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And if the positivity
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then manages
to give birth to that marriage...
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then all the troubles of the Earth
will be gone.
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If the human mind has got the space
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in which to breathe,
to live, to pulse, to flow...
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Who is ever going
to listen to all of this?
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Because we're one hundred and twelve,
there are a hundred questions.
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That's 11,200. Let's say...
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Only two minutes each time.
That's 22,000 minutes.
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You know what that is?
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That's three hundred days.
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Okay, we're finished.
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It's over.
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Copyright © 2011 TITELBILD, Berlin
Subtitle: S. Kirchner, V. Trespalacios