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- [Eli] Alright,
welcome everybody
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to the next OneTaste webinar.
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My name is Eli Block.
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With me here is
Marcus Ratnathicam
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and Hamza Tayeb is in New York.
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I am the
co-president of OneTaste,
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along with my wife, Maya.
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I'm also the
men's program director
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and lead teacher here at
the OneTaste men's program,
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coming up the end of October.
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If this is your first
time hearing about OneTaste,
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Orgasmic Meditation,
we thank you for joining us,
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and welcome to this incredible
practice and community,
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and we invite you to
check out our website
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at www.OneTaste.us,
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where you can learn
all about the practice
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of Orgasmic Meditation,
as well as
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going to our
YouTube channel, which is
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youtube.com/OneTaste.
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This webinar
provides an easy and free way
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for those interested in
the practice and lifestyle
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of Orgasmic Meditation,
or OM life, as we call it,
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to learn and participate.
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So we are just so
happy to have you guys here.
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This is just a
pleasure and a privilege
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to be able to
share what we've gotten
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over the,
between the three of us
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we've got a combined, almost
18 years I guess in practice.
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It's a lot.
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And so we'll be
talking a bit today
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about some of the things
that we've learned, right?
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'Cause if you're new
to Orgasmic Meditation,
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there's two parts of it, right?
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There's the
stroker and the strokee.
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Orgasmic Meditation is a
15-minute partnered practice
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where one partner,
typically a woman,
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always a woman, the woman's
the one with the clitoris,
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we like to be gender
(laughter) gender neutral
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here at OneTaste, 'cause
some people with clitorises
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don't call themselves
women and that is all right.
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But the person with
the clitoris lies down,
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undresses from the waist down,
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and butterflies their legs.
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A stroker, which
can often be a man,
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but we'll also
have women strokers
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on the show as well
too in the coming weeks,
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applies a
dime-sized amount of lube
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to the left index finger,
set the timer for 15 minutes
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after doing a few other steps,
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and for the next 15 minutes,
the meditation is both of them
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putting their attention
on the point of connection
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between clitoris and finger.
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And it's a very simple
practice with amazing results.
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And so we're three guys
who have been doing this
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for several years.
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I, myself, started
the practice about
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seven and a half years ago.
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I was working for
Apple in northern California,
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had grown up in
Zen Buddhism, so had
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a background in meditation,
and a friend of mine
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who was a boss of mine at Apple,
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who, let me tell you guys,
if you've heard me
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tell this story before
I apologize,
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but I'll say it again,
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this guy would like
get up in the morning,
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every morning, and pick
up a can of woman repellent
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and spray himself down with it.
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(laughter)
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Every day.
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And it was obvious,
'cause he would come to work
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and it was a disaster.
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He'd try to talk to
women, it was awful.
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And then one day something
about his life changed,
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and I watched a man,
if you've ever seen
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in the history
classrooms they have
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the very early,
like the ape, right,
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which then turns into
slightly more upright-standing,
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homo sapien.
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I literally watched a
man go through that process
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over the course
of about a month.
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And he started to love
himself and like himself
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in a way that I just couldn't,
no one could ignore it,
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but we didn't
know what he was doing.
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And so he finally decided to
introduce me to this practice
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and it blew my mind.
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And so it started about
seven and half years ago,
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I've been doing it ever since,
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and it's just an honor
to be here with you guys.
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Now I'll let the other
guys introduce themselves too.
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- [Marcus] Hey guys,
my name's Marcus.
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I'll do a real
quick version of my story.
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I was thinking, I was like,
I wanna share something
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different this time.
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I think mine was,
I was dead set,
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I think a lot of us
guys have this story
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like I'm gonna take
on the world, you know,
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I'm gonna knock the
world on its ear, you know,
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and I'm gonna show how much
I can get from this world,
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how much I can
achieve from this world,
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and that was my rally
for a long time, you know?
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And I did my
partying or whatever,
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but you know,
in terms of like work
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and with women,
it was like I wanted to
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go out there and
get it, you know,
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and it was amazing and
it led to this amazing life.
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And there was a limit, you know?
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There was a limit
to what I could get
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from continually,
what I could have
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from continually
trying to own the world,
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and from that
same ambition that had
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created all this
amazingness in my life,
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continues to,
had its limitations.
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And so eventually,
you know, my relationships
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kind of fell flat
enough and, I'd say
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my boredom with life
really got loud enough,
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to where I started
to seek something new,
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and that's where I found OM,
and Orgasmic Meditation,
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and that's where, you
know, the whole new world
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of having more in my life
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opened, and I'll say
more about that in a later
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section of the webinar.
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- [Eli] Hamza?
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- [Hamza] Yes,
yeah this is Hamza.
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Well where do I start?
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I mean I grew up
in northern California,
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the son of an
electrical engineer from Libya
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and a massage
therapist from Los Angeles.
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And so I think I had
kind of like the analytical
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and the intuitive
side of my upbringing
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that were pretty
equally balanced.
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But I like to tell this story
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just to introduce myself about
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basically before
I started this work
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having the
personality of total cardboard.
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Basically, I tell
this funny story
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of being on a photo
shoot for a website, actually.
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And one of my
best friends, Mike,
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he was basically prompting me
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to do all these different poses,
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and emote and express in
all these different ways,
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which I thought
I was really doing.
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And then when I later
checked the photo archives
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and I saw just 50
shots of all the same,
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me making the same face.
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(Eli laughs)
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My meaning is that
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there was a lot
more going on inside
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than you could see
from my outward personality.
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I think I started to develop
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this feeling of being dismissed,
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that if you really knew me
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you would know
there was more to me,
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but hardly anybody
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and then out of that,
I discovered OM.
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And by the way, that was not
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what I told my
guidance counselor
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I was gonna do when
I was in high school,
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which was be an
Orgasmic Meditation instructor.
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But, you know,
the rest is history,
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and this practice
really has helped me
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to come out of that
shell that I grew up in
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in unimaginable ways.
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And so really we
wanna let you guys know more
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about this practice and
everything it's done for us.
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So we're gonna do that
through telling some stories
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on this webinar.
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So I'll start,
actually, in that.
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I was thinking
about what story to tell,
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and, let's see,
where do I begin?
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You know, we trade
notes all the time,
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about what's feminine,
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about relationships and desire,
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and how to be a man in this
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kind of like new
definition of masculinity
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that we're developing
here at OneTaste.
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And we run this
text message thread,
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the three of us here,
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and Marcus
would share this thing
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that basically
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most men
know about their own hunger,
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and their own hunger for women,
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and consuming women,
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and basically looking to
get that hunger satiated,
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and becoming the man who
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could basically get a woman,
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and then consume her.
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You know, consume her sex,
consume her beauty,
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all these sorts of things.
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But hardly any
men will know about
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what it's like to have a
woman's hunger fully extended
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and consuming them.
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And to us
that's the better game.
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- Good story, Hamza!
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(Eli laughs)
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- [Hamza] The hunger game.
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I have kind of a
personal experience with that.
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So this past year, last
year, I was living in London
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with my wife, Rachel,
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who's also a senior
faculty here at OneTaste.
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And, you know, there was
a kind of down period for us
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in our marriage.
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She was feeling
sort of down overall.
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I was feeling down.
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And out of that there was this
pattern that was developing
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which was that she
was taking care of me.
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And it happened
subtly sometimes.
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We'd wake up in the
morning and she'd be, like,
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how're you feeling?
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She would be the first one
to ask me how I was feeling.
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And then I would say,
"Oh, I'm feeling a little tired."
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She would say why don't
you sleep a little bit more.
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And she would set an alarm
for me, and stuff like that.
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And at first I was, like,
ah, that's nice, how sweet.
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It's warm in the bed and it's
cloudy and cold and London.
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And that sort of
thing just kept developing
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where more often than not
she was taking care of me.
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And this funny
thing started to develop
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which was that it
was like that was the way
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that we would connect.
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It was like our
relationship started to be based
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more on me having these needs,
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and then her being
the one to meet my needs.
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Her being the one
to take care of me.
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Her being the one to
find out what I wanted
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and try to provide that.
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And at first it
felt sort of good,
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like, comfortable.
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Oh, you know, how
she's being so caring.
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And she's offering,
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so it's like this generous
thing that she's offering.
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And then we started to get
into some fights around it.
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And she would
say this thing to me,
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I feel like you're the
feminine in our relationship,
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and I am the masculine.
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Which is kind of
like a heavy thing to hear
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from your wife. (laughs)
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That definitely
challenged my sense of manhood.
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I would just be
like what do you mean?
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What does she mean by that?
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We would sort of fight
about it and I would say
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you know, la la la
la la, I don't know what
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you're talking about.
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Then finally I was
doing less of this and more
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of actually listening.
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I started to hear from
her that what it was that
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was her definition of what
masculine and feminine were.
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For her the feminine,
the primary thing was that
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the feminine role
let's say in our relationship
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was to be the one that
had desire, to be the one
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whose desire we were meeting.
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The masculine role
was to create that desire,
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create the circumstances
where that desire
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could be fulfilled.
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So it's like desire and
then fulfillment of desire.
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I started to kind of
understand it a little bit more.
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Then this also
translated into our sex life
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where it was very much
on, our sex life was on
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my body's rhythm.
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We would have sex when
I felt like having sex.
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We would have sex for as
long as I wanted to have sex.
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The sort of things that I
wanted to do became the focus
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of our sex.
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Once again it was like at
first I thought this is great.
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I have this woman who,
she's hot, she's my wife.
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She's crazy about me,
she wants to do everything
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that I wanna do.
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(group laughter)
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It was like we would have
these experiences with our sex
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that were super hot.
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So I thought what's the problem?
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What could
possibly be wrong with that?
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But more and more we'd
have these conversations
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and we would
have these arguments.
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I started to connect
more and more dots.
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I started to notice
something that let's say
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I would wake up in the morning
and feel that kind of like,
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and she would be
the first one here.
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She's be up before me
saying how are you doing?
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And I would start to feel
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resentful of those moments.
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Like you know almost
like there was a pattern,
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there was an obligation
almost that I had to have
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a problem that she could solve.
(chuckles)
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Our relationship had
started to become about her,
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her taking care of me.
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Pretty soon it was like
this was just a pattern.
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This was just like our ritual.
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Finally we ended up
moving out of London
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and I started to
just say you know what?
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I stopped fighting
against this thing that she
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was pointing out
which was that I had become
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the feminine,
according to this definition.
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I realized I didn't want
to do that and she didn't
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want to do that.
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But we had
fallen into a pattern,
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pattern of conditioning.
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We talk a lot about
that in our discourse.
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Talk about these crossed wires.
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We had had a crossed wire
meaning like I wasn't being
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a person I wanted to be.
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She wasn't being the
person she wanted to be.
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There was a certain
amount of blame on either side
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of the other person.
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But ultimately we were
in a pattern that we didn't
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know how to break.
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Then something started
to happen which was that
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I just had this hunger
for something more
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than always doing it my way.
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We would be in bed
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and she would start to kind of
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adapt herself towards
what I wanted or you know,
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the impulse that I
would have and
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I would start to say no.
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I would actually
be like (audio skips).
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Then sometimes she
would answer, sometimes not.
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But just like very
slowly and gradually we started
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to actually shift that thing.
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Pretty soon I realized
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that I had to
actually fight for it
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in a certain way
because I wanted to be a man
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who could put her at
rest meaning I was going
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to be the stroker
and draw out her desire,
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draw out her hunger instead
of just having her lay there
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and me consume her.
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Then I was going to have to
put an effort towards that
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and not just be
inertia with a pattern.
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Does that make sense?
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A couple of times
it meant actually rejecting her.
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'cause she would come towards me
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to play out the
pattern like we always did,
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and I would just say no.
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And just little (audio skips)
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it started to be that
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we kind of like bent this
pattern the other way around
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and I became more of the
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person that was able
to draw out her desire
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and her hunger.
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And so now it's
more at the point where
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the minute that thing starts to,
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the minute it
starts to go the other way
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where she is kind of
like drawing my desire out,
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we can both sort of spot it
and it becomes more of a game.
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Where it used to
be a serious thing
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and a thing we would fight over,
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now more and more
it becomes a game.
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It's like oh, I see
what was happening there,
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I go what did you want?
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And then she'll turn really
red or something like that.
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And I just want
to end with this,
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there's something
about this subject
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that can seem a little
abstract or (audio skips) too.
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It's like what about my desire,
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what about my desire as a man?
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And whenever I get
stuck in that in my mind,
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I just go back to
this thing that
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a really simple example.
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What is hotter?
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A woman just laying there
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and a man's hunger ravaging her,
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or a man just laying there
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and a woman's
hunger ravaging him?
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Which one do I actually want?
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It's more of a word
play than anything else.
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It's like, for me to
actually get what I want,
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which is her being
turned on in my presence,
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it means putting the
focus on what she wants.
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So that's my story.
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- [Eli] Thanks, Hamza.
- [Marcus] Thanks, Hamza.
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- [Eli] That was great.
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And for you guys at home,
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we're gonna take some questions
at the very end of this.
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So if you're out there
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and you're wanting
to ask some questions
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about mastery in relationships
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and men/women dynamics
and sexuality and orgasm,
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get your questions
ready and you can send 'em in
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and Keenan will make
sure that we get them
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and we'll answer some
questions on this call.
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Go for it.
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- [Marcus] I have a
really fresh story.
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This happened
just a few days ago.
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And this is in the
theme of acquisition
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and how do I get mine.
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And this is a voice,
how do I get mine,
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that's shown up for me.
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In the beginning I was
very skeptical of OM.
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I was very skeptical.
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I was like, I had
my issues with sex,
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I had my hangups with my body.
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And it was like, me
stroke her genitals?
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The math doesn't add up.
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(laughs)
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I need attention here.
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Thankfully, I was
desperate enough to,
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where my desperation outweighed
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the veracity of that voice.
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But that voice is
still kinda (laughs),
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it still shows up.
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And so this is a story,
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I used to, I lived
abroad for a few years,
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and there was a woman there
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and she was my best friend,
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and she was married to
this really amazing guy.
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And we were great friends
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and I was single
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and out tackling the world.
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This expatriate
with this great lifestyle
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and it was like the
world was my oyster.
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And she would
have friends come over
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from time to time,
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local friends who
lived in this country
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or friends who
would fly in to visit her.
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And every single time
she brought friends over,
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I would try and sleep with them.
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Every single time.
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And in the beginning it
was kind of funny thing.
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Sometimes I was successful,
sometimes I wasn't.
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And this just
continued on for a long time.
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And we never had a...
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She would
sometimes complain about it,
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but not in like a, you're
gonna have to stop this now.
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It was more like,
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like stop trying
to sleep with her.
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She has a boyfriend, you know?
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Or just like, no,
it doesn't feel right.
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Like don't do that.
And I was like,
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every time that she
would say that to me
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I'd meet her with like,
what business is it of yours?
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You're married.
Mind your own business.
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This is me, I'm having fun.
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She's a consensual adult.
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She's making her own decisions,
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and like, back off, you know?
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And so it just, the pattern
repeated every single time.
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This included
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happening at her wedding,
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and she had a friend
there who I just pursued.
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This was years ago.
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Just the other day,
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I had been studying, the
Orgasmic Meditation lifestyle
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and practicing OM
for over seven years
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and this was
probably like 10 years ago
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that this happened.
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And truly I've been
a student of desire,
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and a student of orgasm,
and student of fulfillment.
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Having studied this,
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how to be fulfilled,
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I run into this voice of how
do I get mine all the time.
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It started at the
beginning of the OM practice.
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It shows up all the time with
women and flirting with women.
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Whatever.
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And still it took me
seven years to where,
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for whatever reason, I was in
a yoga class and I was like,
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"Oh my God."
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I had this realization
with this woman
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which was
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I just
consistently tried to take.
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Every single time
she had a friend over,
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I would try and sleep with
her with no regard whatsoever
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for my relationship
with my friend,
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with no regard whatsoever
for how she felt about it,
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with no regard whatsoever
for how the other people
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in our peer group felt about it.
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It was just this,
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this hunger of mine was,
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this particular
flavor of it was myopic,
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and entitled,
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and determined,
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and righteous in its
pursuit of whatever it wanted.
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And I thought, wow.
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I just tried to take.
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That's all I
did with this woman,
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and she was so generous with me.
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She was my best
friend, you know?
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And I was living
in a foreign country,
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and I was like, you know,
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having a close friend like that.
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Have you ever had
the experience of living
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very far outside your
home culture is precious.
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She never even said it
with that much frostiness.
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If she did, I couldn't hear it.
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And so I wrote this woman,
and she was gracious enough
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to let me make this
amend, to name this thing
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that I would do with her,
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and make this
amend for my behavior.
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And she said,
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"You know, I
always felt that way,
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"but I never knew how to say it,
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"and it always felt weird to me.
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"Thank you for saying that."
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And it just floored me.
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I was like wow.
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I had no idea through two years
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of being so close
with this woman who
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I considered my best friend,
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that she was so
bothered by this behavior.
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And not only that,
what was I missing?
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If she was so
bothered by this, rightfully,
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imagine how much more
friendship was possible
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if I hadn't
tried to take from her.
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It's like if she
was this jewel box
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and she had all these friends,
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she had all these jewels,
and I wanted them.
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Imagine if I didn't try and
take each individual jewel
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every time it presented itself.
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What wealth might have been.
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What more wealth on top
of how gracious and generous
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she was with me,
might have been available.
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I totally lost the
opportunity to ever know that
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because I was so
focused on just getting mine.
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I think that
that's been my experience
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over and over and over
and over again with women.
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It's like there's
this part of me
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that's so fixated on,
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I just catch a whiff of some
food cooking in the kitchen
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and I want to go
in there and eat it.
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And it's like, through OM,
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I've been shown undeniably.
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My attention on
a woman, you know,
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this is just my
attention on a woman,
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brings me more than I
could have designed for myself.
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And yet still,
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this kind of like
self-will driven
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hunt for how do I get mine
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shows up in all
these perversive ways.
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Through this work of
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unpacking all of those voices
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and cleaning up
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my relationships of the past
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and living that new way with
my relationships in the future,
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right now.
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It's like wow,
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I get fed more
than that old voice
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thought I was
supposed to get fed.
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(laughing)
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Not that way (laughing).
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Something else had
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to come into operation
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for me to understand fulfillment
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and what it actually meant.
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So that's my first
story, for the week,
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of this male conditioning,
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that we all have, you know.
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Every guy I met has,
and I still have,
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and constantly (audio skips)
define more and more
-
what's true and how do I show up
-
as a better man in
the world than that?
-
In fact, the world
has a lot in store for me
-
if I stop trying
to take from it.
-
- [Eli] That is awesome,
thanks man.
-
That was great.
-
I'll go, so man
-
you know I relate
to what you guys
-
both talked about.
-
For me I had so many
-
insecurities as a teenager
-
like Marcus said had
been told his whole life
-
these are the tools
that you will use to conquer
-
the world, essentially.
-
Here's your education, you'll
use this to get a good job.
-
You're gonna be set up so that
you can make a lot of money.
-
Not that making a
lot of money is bad.
-
But like here's your
tools to do this, right?
-
Always had some idea of
I'll meet some great woman
-
and it will be kind
of a I'm still great
-
and she's so great
together kind of thing
-
and we'll join forces
in a certain way and be
-
the best couple on earth.
-
It was just this
thought in my head that it would
-
go something like that.
-
I remember my
-
sexual experiences in colleges.
-
I think a lot of guys,
we talked to a lot of men.
-
We teach, the three of us teach
the OneTaste Men's Course
-
which is essentially predicated
on the notion that mastery,
-
true mastery, is learning how
to meet nature on its terms.
-
So as you guys hear us
talk what you're listening to
-
is three guys who are really
trying to listen to what life,
-
women, and at a basic level.
-
And to practice Orgasmic
Meditation what a woman's pussy
-
is telling us as opposed to
what we're trying to tell it.
-
(laughing)
-
Right, and that paying
attention on that level
-
is actually a thing
which is going to tell us
-
what we need to know.
-
And that filling up,
emptying out all the love,
-
all of the attention
that we have which we have
-
an abundance of into
the world and into women
-
will ensure that
we're always taken care of.
-
It's actually not a
question which is contrary.
-
Like Marcus was
saying most of us are taught,
-
which is you have
to go out and get yours
-
before some other guy gets it.
-
That kind of competition.
-
But man I had a lot of that.
-
I remember having these
-
experiences in
college with women.
-
I remember afterwards I would
always sort of lie there
-
and I would always be
like I hope she says something
-
about how good it was.
-
You know, I hope once we're
done she says something like
-
ah, I really needed that.
-
Or like, that's
the best I've ever had.
-
Or all the things that a
guy really hopes to hear.
-
(Marcus laughs)
-
You know, just tell me,
just give me one.
-
How did you do that?
-
Oh my God,
it blew my mind, you know.
-
It was funny because
I got a few of those.
-
Every now and then there'd
be a woman and she'd be like
-
Uh, I've never had anything
like that before, you know?
-
And I would think
that was really hot.
-
Then more often than
not I would just not hear
-
from her again.
(group laughter)
-
She would say this thing,
I would feel a certain
-
amount of satisfaction,
-
a certain amount of
what I deemed fulfillment,
-
which was really approval.
-
I got a little hit of something
then it would usually fizzle
-
and kind of go away.
-
I think definitely part
of that was that I didn't
-
know how to
cultivate desire at all.
-
A woman would open her desire
to me and like Marcus said
-
I pretty much
knew how to consume it.
-
It was like a woman (audio
skips) and she was interested.
-
Then it was like okay,
the hunt was on.
-
I was gonna kind of suddenly
pursue her in a certain way
-
and we'd end up at
my place and whatever.
-
I was clear I didn't
want a relationship
-
and that was pretty
much it unless you wanted
-
to come back for
seconds of the same thing
-
without a whole lot else.
-
There wasn't any
-
mastery involved at all.
-
It was like plate of
food comes my way I eat it,
-
and then it
magically regenerates
-
and I have another bite.
-
And it magically
regenerates and I have some more
-
until either I get
bored with the food
-
or it gets bored with me, and
then we go our separate ways.
-
Right, that's
pretty much how it was.
-
Fast forward, one of
the things that you learn
-
in OneTaste our
basic courses, including
-
the men's program
-
is this is sort of
level one is that...
-
These are very
broad declarations,
-
broad patterns,
-
but I think if you look out
there it holds pretty true,
-
which is that a lot of
men are looking for approval
-
and a lot of women
are looking for attention.
-
And we're willing to trade these
-
things in various quantities,
-
both in the minuscule
and in bulk with each other.
-
You know, attention and approval
-
which leads,
I think, to a lot of
-
the kind of
relationship experiences
-
that a lot of us report
-
which is that it was
very hot at the beginning
-
and over time it got
less and less interesting.
-
Right, and what's next.
-
I gotta get out of this so
-
that I can start
something new and better
-
and hopefully it's
different this time.
-
And we talk to a lot of people
-
and that's an
overwhelming pattern.
-
And so, we know it's
gotta be more than that.
-
We know there's
gotta be more possible.
-
Which is why we
have the men's intensive
-
is cause we wanna give people.
-
We only have an hour to talk
to you guys in webinar today.
-
The men's weekend
is a whole weekend,
-
but the intensive is actually
-
where we wanna take
you guys to mastery.
-
And so this is a mastery story,
-
which is that I was
teaching the men's course.
-
Number one, the standard
men's course in Los Angeles
-
not this last weekend,
but the weekend before
-
and there's a
section of the class
-
where my wife or
a woman comes in.
-
A woman who's trained.
-
When I say trained,
what I mean by that,
-
is she's been doing the
practice for Orgasmic Meditation
-
for several years and
she has sovereignty over
-
what we would call her orgasm
-
which is like
she's not looking for me
-
to provide her
with anything, right.
-
She's not looking to me for
approval about her desires.
-
She's living at
all times, at least,
-
you might say
like from 51% desire
-
or more at any given moment.
-
And so she's a powerful, what
we call a turned on woman.
-
And so, we want a woman
who can answer the questions
-
of the guys in
the class in a way
-
that's really gonna be honest.
-
Right, where she's not looking
for their approval in anyway
-
and she can afford to be
-
incredibly generous
with the truth
-
with these guys and really help
-
ensure their success with women.
-
And so there I am,
sitting in front of this room,
-
with my wife and
-
basically, she is up there
-
and she's brilliant and she's
giving them the straight dope
-
about men and women dynamics
-
and I'm like oh I'm so
grateful cause she's saying
-
a lot of the things
that I said during the class
-
so I feel really
good about that, you know.
-
(group laughter)
-
It's always a plus, you know.
-
And there comes a point
where a guy raises his hand
-
and she calls on him and he says
-
how do you know
when a man really
-
has quality attention on you?
-
We talk about
attention and approval,
-
but like there is such a thing
as real quality attention,
-
not in a way thatâs trying
to get anything in return.
-
So he asked how do
you know when a guy
-
is really handling you well,
-
he's got real
quality attention on you?
-
And she said well,
I'll give you an example
-
of what it's
like, what happens.
-
This is like, if
I've been out all day long
-
and I've been
working and in meetings
-
and on the phone with people
and doing her daily routine,
-
and I'm also
doing my daily routine,
-
teaching and
talking on the phone to people
-
and we run a
business here at OneTaste,
-
and there's a lot to do.
-
And I've got enough
attention that she comes home,
-
she walks through the
front door of the house
-
and she can feel that
someone's run a bath, right?
-
And she says I can
walk in the front door
-
and he knows what
kind of day I've had.
-
He's had enough
attention on me to know
-
what my day's been like and
he has a bath ready for me.
-
Without being there to
kind of take credit for it.
-
Without
-
"Hey, I made you a bath.
-
"Who's awesome? Who's got ya?"
-
And she said that's
how I know when it's done
-
just from pure service
without trying to get anything
-
in return with that
amount of attention.
-
She says yhat's what has me
feeling like I can really relax.
-
That's one of the things,
that was an easy example.
-
And the guy thanked her and
we moved on with the class.
-
It was awesome,
it was a great class.
-
She got done and she left
-
and one of the things we talk
about in the men's course
-
is about women's
communication styles.
-
And we talk about how
women communicate, right?
-
Which is often times indirectly.
-
That's sort of the punch line
of it is that it's indirect.
-
You know with men it's like
-
"Marcus, can I have five
dollars, I'll pay you back."
-
- [Marcus] No.
- [Eli] Right? (laughs)
-
We were very direct
about that conversation.
-
It may look different
when someone's implying
-
a feminine style
of communication.
-
There's subtext
and metamessaging,
-
all of these things.
-
And truly in a
feminine-communicating world,
-
everything is a communication.
-
There is not a single thing
-
that is not a
communication in some form.
-
The other example
I like to use is
-
you're walking
through a mall or a store
-
with a woman and her
eye just very briefly goes
-
towards something in the store.
-
If you're not there to catch it,
-
she might never ask for it.
-
But if you catch it,
and you come back,
-
and you go to the store,
-
and you get the
thing whatever it is,
-
and you have it just
appear in your house for her,
-
you're a miracle worker.
-
You've got that much attention
-
on a woman's
desire to pluck it out of
-
the feeling world into a
reality, into manifestation.
-
That's how a woman goes,
-
"Well, this guy's got a
lot of attention on me."
-
Anyways, back to the classroom.
-
So she finishes
telling me or telling the room
-
that that's what she likes.
-
We do like five or
six more questions,
-
and then it's everyone applauds,
-
and she gets off the
stage and we're done.
-
I said to the room, I said,
-
"Did you guys catch the
feminine communication?"
-
(group laughter)
-
And they were like,
-
"Well, what are
you talking about?
-
"What do you mean?"
-
In the purposes of this story,
-
I've kind of
given it away already,
-
but there were lots of
things that she mentioned.
-
I looked pretty good,
-
I was looking pretty
good on stage with my woman.
-
So a guy asked, "How do you know
-
"you're being
well taken care of?"
-
And she goes, "Let me
tell you about my man,"
-
and I'm sitting
right next to her.
-
I'm real shiny in my head shirt,
-
like, "Yeah, that's right.
-
"That's what I do.
-
"That's how I handled her."
-
(group laughter)
-
The thing I explained to
them is that that was a test
-
is that she managed...
-
This is how fast
women are with communication
-
is that she managed to
simultaneously explain to them
-
what a feminine
communication was
-
and how she knows
she's being handled.
-
She was able to
explain that this was the way
-
that she knows
I have attention on her.
-
Then she managed to
slip a communication in
-
while giving me something
that would put my attention
-
on myself as opposed to her,
which was a compliment.
-
It's like she
set up a game for me
-
to get a bath
drawn for her that night.
-
That was actually her,
that was my wife,
-
having foreplay
and flirtation with me
-
in front of an
entire room of men.
-
(laughs)
-
And so, it was an
interesting conversation
-
we have with the
guys in the room.
-
Because they were like, "Wait,
wait, wait, wait, what!"
-
"Wait, she did what?"
-
The whole trip is,
-
"What, she wouldn't
just ask directly?"
-
(group laughter)
It's like, no.
-
The thing I wanted to
pull out of this story
-
which I thought
was especially cool
-
that I wanted to share
with you guys today is that
-
there is a way that a
regular test from a woman
-
will come in
terms of you noticing
-
whether your
attention is on yourself
-
or is it on her?
-
Another great example of
that is I talked to a guy
-
the other day who
said something like
-
he was in a room with a woman,
-
and they were on a date,
-
they were at a restaurant,
-
and things are
starting to heat up
-
a little bit between them.
It was feeling good,
-
it was feeling kind of turned on
-
like there was some
kind of magic happening.
-
He was like, "Wow!
-
"This woman's really hot.
-
"I don't usually
date women like this."
-
He's just getting real excited
-
about maybe what was
going to happen later
-
like making a move.
-
This is a guy that we trained.
-
He said the next thing that
she said out of her mouth,
-
because he's probably 5'3",
-
she says,
-
"My type is tall guys.
-
"I only date tall guys."
-
(chuckles)
-
So then he starts
to go into self-doubt.
-
(laughs)
-
He starts
thinking about himself.
-
He gets kind of angry at her,
-
and he gets kind of
like internally focused.
-
This is very subtle
-
where like if you're
sitting at a table with her...
-
He was sitting with a woman.
-
If I was sitting with him,
-
I probably
wouldn't be able to tell
-
that he wasn't
as present with me,
-
but all of a
sudden he's sitting there,
-
"Wait a minute,
-
"is she saying that she
doesn't wanna go home with me
-
"or am I not tall enough
-
"or what's wrong with me
-
"or should I have known
that she liked taller guys
-
"before I went on this date?"
-
Like all of the
the thoughts that start
-
running in your head
when someone knocks
-
on one of
your insecurities, you know.
-
And that's what happened, right?
-
It's that this lady just
like knock his insecurity
-
and the thing was he
lost his most valuable asset,
-
which was his attention.
-
All of a sudden, his attention
went from being out here
-
which was actually opening
something beautiful and hot
-
and turned on in this
experience with this woman.
-
All of sudden went from out
here (laughs) fell back on him.
-
You know?
-
And he stay with all of his
attention in his own head,
-
thinking about:
"What did I do wrong?"
-
Or "Does she like me?"
Or "Does she not like me?"
-
And you can always
know that if that happens,
-
whether it's a positive,
-
like what my wife did
for me in the class and said
-
"Oh you know my husband
does this, this, this and this",
-
you're gonna miss something.
-
Every time your
attention is on yourself...
-
If I sat there in that
class and preened in front of
-
all the guys and thanked her
for coming without realizing,
-
you know, without having
my constant attention on her
-
even when I'm teaching a class,
-
I will miss the
foreplay of that night.
-
And then when I get
home later, I'll wonder
-
"Oh why, you know, isn't there
heat? Why isn't there sex?
-
"Why isn't there
like a feeling of fun?"
-
Well and I'll
say and she'll say,
-
"Well I wanted to
have sex tonight".
-
I'll say "Why the
hell you didn't tell me
-
"you wanted to
have sex tonight?!"
-
And she can always
look back and she can say,
-
oh if she
decides to let me know,
-
"I told you when
you were teaching.
-
"I told you to run me the bath."
-
- [Marcus] Yeah, and for me
I struggled with this a lot.
-
If you're sitting there...
-
Like when I first heard
guys talking about this,
-
I was like "How do
you, you know like ..."
-
I didn't even get what
they were talking about and
-
you know, there's ...
-
If I look at me, you
know like with my story too,
-
I can relate to what
Eli is saying is,
-
there was,
I felt entitled to her.
-
I was like, you know there's
this part that gets angry like,
-
"Why didn't she just tell me?"
- [Eli] (laughs) Just tell me.
-
- [Marcus] That upsets you
so much, you know?
-
And it's like,
what the translation is,
-
"Why didn't you say it in my
language that that upset you?"
-
you know?
-
Which would be very clear,
instructional communication.
-
(Eli laughs)
You know?
-
"Marcus? I do not
like when you do that.
-
"You must stop."
-
And the truth is, for me,
I would have liked more
-
intensity than that to hear it.
-
I would have liked
a threat, you know,
-
in order for me to get it.
-
"Marcus, I don't like
it when you try and sleep
-
"with all my friends
every time they come.
-
"If you continue to do
that, I will discontinue
-
"being friends with you
and spending time with you."
-
That would have been at the
volume that I could really hear.
-
Now what that's doing is,
that's forcing her to use
-
a tremendous amount of
pressure and intensity in order
-
to communicate to me to
stop taking from her, right?
-
So not only is she
there being taken from,
-
but she has to
use that much pressure
-
to get me to stop, right?
-
That's a lot of
smarting up that from
-
where I was to be able to see
that, you know, and there's...
-
If you don't get
that or if you know,
-
you're kinda in
trouble with women.
-
Because they're
not gonna come out
-
and say it to you every time
-
and the evidence that you're
having these kinds of problems,
-
evidence you're gonna
see in your relationships
-
is a diminishing sex life.
-
You're gonna see
-
women who will say,
-
"I'm doing great".
-
You can feel or you can
intuit, you can sense that
-
there's something
else happening, right?
-
So you're gonna see
that kind of dissonance in
-
your relationships and
-
you're gonna see women who
-
you think are,
there's like chemistry with
-
or something like that,
that they're just like,
-
"No, I actually
wouldn't date you, you know?"
-
It's because they can sense
that you don't actually have
-
quality attention
or the last is,
-
you're gonna see girlfriends
who never seems to introduce
-
you to their girlfriends, right?
-
These are all markers that
-
you're with women who don't
-
trust you to do something other
than trying to take from it.
-
And if there's one
message of this work, it's like,
-
guys, you're asking
the wrong questions.
-
"How do I get more sex?
Why won't she sleep with me?"
-
"Why won't she come with me?"
-
These are all
the wrong questions.
-
(Eli laughs)
-
These are all
questions from the mindset of
-
"Why isn't she doing it for me?"
-
"Why am I not
getting what I want?"
-
And that's the very
mindset that's causing you
-
the problems in the
first place, you know?
-
And you can take that from me,
someone who has been working
-
with this conditioning
in me for years
-
and still see it, you know?
-
That is for sure the number
one offender of my ailments
-
and complaints
of my relationship,
-
is my orientation of
-
"Why isn't it happening my way?
-
"Why am I
not getting mine?" Right?
-
- [Eli] And that's I think
the thing with about us is
-
we approach relationships,
-
intimacy,
sexuality and communication
-
from the perspective
of practice, right?
-
And so we're always looking at,
-
like, Marcus is
in a regular inquiry,
-
around
-
how does that dynamic
show up in his relationships?
-
'Cause that's actually
how we get some freedom.
-
Hamza, do you have anything
you want to add to that?
-
- [Hamza] Yeah,
-
that's such an awesome story.
-
I was sitting here
relating it to my story as well,
-
about
-
in my case it would've been like
-
why didn't she just tell me
-
that she didn't really
-
wanna be doing things my way?
-
The thing she
was saying to me was
-
let's do it your way,
-
like, literally.
-
Man, there's just
so many layers to it,
-
there's so many layers to it.
-
And I think
-
one that Iâve started
-
to catch on to in
my marriage is that,
-
no, no, no that's
because it's like,
-
there's the conditioned way
-
and then there's this new,
-
brand new way,
-
that it's turned on,
-
and it's kind of scary.
-
It can be kind of
scary and unfamiliar.
-
It's like what would it be like,
-
as a man,
to have my attention
-
totally off of me trying to get
-
what I think I need and want,
-
and put it all the way on her.
-
That's scary.
-
That can be scary.
-
And then the
same is true for her,
-
what would it be like
to have a man's attention
-
so much on her
-
that it's like,
-
that not a single
beat is being missed?
-
It's sort of this thing where
we often say about true desire
-
that
-
true desire is
-
where you kind of
feel like you're gonna puke
-
and you really want it. (laughs)
-
It has both sides.
-
It has ambivalence around it
-
and so I think for her its,
-
she definitely had that
-
ambivalence and
it's sort of like
-
some part of her
would feel more comfortable
-
if she could just sort
of throw me off the trail
-
and then the other
part of her is saying,
-
"I really hope he gets it,
I really hope he picks up
-
"what I'm really putting out."
-
- [Eli] Truly.
That's beautifully said.
-
All right,
-
so we've got a
couple moments for questions
-
which is always fun.
-
I've got one from Brain M.
-
So, Brian writes,
-
"Can you explain the
frame at the end of the OM?"
-
This is actually a
very telling story, right,
-
so he says,
-
"Can you explain the
frame at the end of the OM?
-
"I have a hard time putting
the experience into words,
-
"and my wife seems
to expect more out me.
-
"It's too the point
where I feel a bit of pressure
-
"to perform each time,
-
"which is weird."
He assumes it's weird.
-
"Also, how many times a
week do most people OM?"
-
And so this, on the surface,
-
is a very
technical question. (laughs)
-
It's like how do
I do the frame and,
-
you know...
-
So here's how I'd
answer that question,
-
for sure, you guys;
-
so you said she seems
to expect more out of you.
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That was a very telling
thing that you said there.
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One thing I would say is like,
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if you're starting,
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I'm gonna make a
couple of assumptions, Brian,
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and you can
always write me later,
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Eli@onetaste.us
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by the way,
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Eli@onetaste.us,
Marcus@onetaste.us
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and Hamza@onetaste.us,
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if anybody wants to
write us or anything,
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we'll answer all your emails.
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But, so Brian,
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I am gonna make a
couple of assumptions.
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One, is that you guys are OMing,
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you're already connected,
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'cause if you guys
in order to revitalize
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your connection in some way and
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the beautiful
thing about a frame
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is that it's there so
that people can experience,
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they can relate
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what it's like having
a connected experience.
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And so often
times, in sexuality,
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the only time people really
are sure they're connected
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is if they have a
climax at the same time.
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That's sort of like the holy
grail of sexual experiences
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is like,
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"Okay! Ready? Here we
go at the same time!
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"Boom!"
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And it's like a
big ol' climax, right?
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That's like the
holy grail. And so,
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for me when
I first started this,
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one of the big
questions I always had was,
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"Oh, are we connected now?
"How about now?
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"Are we connected now?
Is this connection?
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"When do we get connected?
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"How will I know
if we're connected?"
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And the frame is a really
vulnerable part of the practice
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because
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you're letting someone,
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giving them a window into
what your experience was like.
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And you're kind of hoping,
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my guess is she's kind of hoping
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that you guys are
gonna be able to relate
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through those
experiences, right?
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Through you
letting her into your world
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and she letting
you into hers in a way
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you guys maybe
haven't done in a long time.
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In a way that you guys can hear
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the thing that you
both created during the OM
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in what you both said.
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We has some connection.
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It wasn't just her on her side
and you on your side, right?
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And so, I would actually
say, I would actually say,
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Less emphasis
on a technicality. Right?
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Like, saying that you had
a warmth in your finger is
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enough of a frame,
to get you by and,
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you know, expand on that
with whatever's true for you,
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in that moment.
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But I would say, that to me
is a communication that says,
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"I'm just wanting
more connection in general,
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"and wanting more
shared connection,
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"more colorizing,
in connection in general."
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And again, this is one of
those things that we're gonna
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go a lot more into,
in the men's intensive.
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So, if there's any guys
out there who want this level
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of mastery, to be
able to hear, right,
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what a woman is saying, right,
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and surface be like,
"I'm not doing it right!"
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Which is basically a
clue to that question right?
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How do I do it right
so that I please her?
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It's not about that right?
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- [Marcus] Yeah, I think
there's another element too,
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which is, I finished my,
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so I started my
first OM and my coach
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said, "What's your goal?"
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and I said I'm
gonna make her come.
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(group laughter)
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And they were like,
"Well Marcus, we're not sure."
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You know, "But give it a shot."
You know, not like,
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"That's not the goal,
you're just strokin'."
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And then we
finished the OM, I felt,
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I felt quite
a bit, but I didn't,
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she didn't come, I knew
she didn't come, you know,
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I knew that, she didn't come.
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And, I have to admit, I have
these two competing voices,
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on one hand, "Oh well,
that was kinda cool,
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"that was an
intense experience."
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And on the other
hand, I was like,
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"She didn't come, is that okay,
did I do something wrong?"
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And the, you know,
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the most challenging thing I
see for us guys, with the set
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of conditioning
that we operate by is,
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admitting what we have,
admitting what we have,
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admitting what we have, right?
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There's an, there's like this
ungratifiable stickler to
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our conditioning which is like,
"Well, she didn't come." Or,
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"I didn't come."
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Or there wasn't explosions,
"No, there wasn't explosions."
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There was a
subtle radiation of heat,
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in your fingertip, right?
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That is where you
just admit what you have,
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you admit that
everything you have right now is
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is good enough, right?
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And, then it doesn't
matter it you're like,
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like me I was fairly,
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I was relatively numb,
I would say, you know,
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I was frozen, right,
and Brian it sounds like,
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you might have that too,
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where you don't
feel a lot, right?
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But you do feel something,
you do feel something.
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And that's the ferocity
that you wanna have with
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your mind to say,
"I do feel something."
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And then start with,
"I felt a beat in my chest,
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"I felt my pulse in my arm,
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"I felt warmth in my fingertip."
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You start with
what I did have right?
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And, it turns that
conditioning of like,
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continually reaching,
continually not being enough,
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right on it's head,
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"This is enough right now,
this is what I felt right now."
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"Did you feel that?"
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"Okay, cool."
And you connect that way.
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That's the number one thing
I hear with guys who say,
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that they don't have a frame.
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- [Eli] That's beautiful,
that's gorgeous.
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So we are gonna wrap up folks,
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another fantastic
webinar but let's see,
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we wanna make sure, in
case you guys heard something
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on this webinar,
'cause we're getting a lot of
-
questions here, you know,
a lot of questions,
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which we will answer,
if you guys send a mail,
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we will get them answered.
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And, we'll maybe do
a whole webinar on the
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actual OM practice, just
answering all of your questions,
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on various levels,
we'd love to do that.
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But in case you heard
something and you're like,
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"Man, I wanna go deeper,
I heard something great,
-
"and I want more,
and I wanna make sure,
-
"that I get a next step."
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We wanna make sure that you
have a next step, as well.
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So that you guys can continue
on this path to mastery,
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that is really what we're about.
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And so, you know, one
thing that we know is that,
-
going back to the "swipe
right" world of Tinder and the,
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you know, the constant cat
and mouse game of the world of
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dating and,
you know, all of the,
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all of the pomp
that happens around that.
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It can be fun when there's
something deeper, right?
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There's something deeper
than the unanswered
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Okay Cupid messages, right?
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And the hundreds of dollars
spent on dinner, every week.
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That don't lead to
anything fulfilling, we know
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that there's more
because we've experienced it.
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And so, there's also, in
order to have more, we know
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that there's at least
three things, that you need.
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You know you need experts,
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the three of us
here today, experts.
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We needed OneTaste
founder, Nicole Daedone,
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and the rest of
the OneTaste staff
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over again, the last
several years to train us right,
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to really work with us,
you need experts.
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You need other people who are
going through the same thing.
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That's why we do
this in community right,
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Orgasmic Meditation
is a worldwide community.
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And then, also you need a
place to practice, you know
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you actually need a container.
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To practice Orgasmic Meditation,
it is a 15 minute practice
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with boundaries. Boundaries
are incredibly important,
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in order to be able to
feel like you can let go.
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So, what we're gonna suggest is,
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if you're interested
in crafting an experience,
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if you're not
quite sure what to do,
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you can text the
number and we'll post this,
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we'll send this
out in email later,
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but get ready to
write something down,
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I'll say it three times.
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Text the number,
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area code 510
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295 5556,
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again, text the number
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area code 510 295
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5556 and say,
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"I'm ready for a next step."
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If that's you, if you're
sitting out there and your like,
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"Hey, I want a next step,
I want to start this journey,
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"I want to get
this thing moving."
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Text, "I'm ready
for a next step,"
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to 510 295
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5556.
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And if you're a man
who's like, "I'm ready for
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"the whole enchilada,
bring it on."
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Myself, Marcus and
Hamza, as well as other senior
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teachers and exalted teachers
from around the world are
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gonna be teaching the
men's intensive, coming up here
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in late October,
the 26th to the 30th,
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it's gonna be fantastic,
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it's here in Los Angeles,
it takes place here,
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in Beverley Hills and so,
if you're interested in that,
-
you can also send
us a text message,
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at the exact same number.
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Or, if you want to start
on this path and you want
-
the first building block, take
the OneTaste Men's Course.
-
It's a weekend, it's a Friday
night, a Saturday day and
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a Sunday until
about 2 P.M, or so.
-
It's top in New York, London,
Austin, Texas, Los Angeles,
-
and is an entire weekend where
you learn the language of
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the feminine from top to bottom.
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It's like going to France,
in order to learn French.
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And you'll work with one
of the three of us there and
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we cannot wait to meet you
guys, and help you on your path.
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So, stay tuned for next week,
with the next webinar topic.
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We'll be
announcing that in the email.
-
It's a whopper, so
keep an eye on your email,
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we're gonna have something
really good for you guys,
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coming out soon and,
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thanks for joining us.
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It was a pleasure.
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Take care.