The intangible effects of walls
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0:01 - 0:04Humankind loves to build walls.
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0:05 - 0:06Have you ever noticed that?
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0:07 - 0:09We build walls for everything:
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0:09 - 0:12for shelter, for protection, for privacy.
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0:13 - 0:15Over the past 70 years,
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0:15 - 0:19the number of barriers
between countries has doubled. -
0:19 - 0:23Right now, there are more walls
than at the end of the Second World War, -
0:23 - 0:26more than during the Cold War.
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0:27 - 0:28Growing up in Germany,
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0:28 - 0:31the fall of the Berlin Wall
always felt to me -
0:31 - 0:35like the introduction of a new world,
a world without barriers. -
0:35 - 0:37But since the attacks of 9/11,
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0:37 - 0:40the construction has experienced
an extreme rise. -
0:41 - 0:43Since then, the amount has doubled,
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0:43 - 0:46with about 30 new structures
that were planned or built. -
0:47 - 0:52Walls and fences are often built
with the intention of security, -
0:52 - 0:54security from another group of people,
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0:54 - 0:56from crime, from illegal trades.
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0:57 - 1:01But walls and fences only provide us
with a feeling of security, -
1:01 - 1:04which is different from real security.
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1:04 - 1:07Even though they might make us feel safe,
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1:07 - 1:10the structures themselves
can't protect us. -
1:10 - 1:13Instead, they do something else:
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1:13 - 1:14they separate.
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1:14 - 1:17They create an us and a them.
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1:17 - 1:19They establish an enemy.
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1:19 - 1:24Walls make us build a second wall
in our head, a mental wall. -
1:24 - 1:28And those mental walls
slowly make us lose sight -
1:28 - 1:32of all the things we have in common
with the people on the other side. -
1:32 - 1:34The other way around,
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1:34 - 1:37mental walls can grow so strong
that they encourage us to build, -
1:37 - 1:40keep or strengthen physical walls.
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1:41 - 1:43Physical and mental walls
are closely interlinked, -
1:43 - 1:46and one almost always
comes with the other. -
1:46 - 1:48It's a constant cycle:
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1:48 - 1:52physical walls empower mental walls,
and mental walls empower physical walls -
1:52 - 1:55until at one point one part falls away,
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1:55 - 1:57and the cycle is disrupted.
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1:58 - 2:00When the Berlin Wall was being built,
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2:00 - 2:03it was hard to tell
who the wall was facing, -
2:03 - 2:06because the people living around it
identified as one. -
2:06 - 2:08There was no us and them.
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2:08 - 2:10There was no others.
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2:10 - 2:12During the time of separation,
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2:12 - 2:15both sides developed differently
and formed individual identities. -
2:16 - 2:18All of a sudden, there was
an us and a them. -
2:19 - 2:21A mental wall was built,
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2:21 - 2:24and when the Berlin Wall
fell again in 1989, -
2:24 - 2:27this mental wall in the head
of the people stayed. -
2:28 - 2:32Eastern Germans had to be reintegrated
into their own country, -
2:32 - 2:35and even though they didn't
have to move places, -
2:35 - 2:39many still today feel like
they have never fully arrived. -
2:39 - 2:43Those remaining effects
of the mental wall are also measurable. -
2:44 - 2:47A study from the Freie University
of Berlin in 2005 -
2:47 - 2:52shows that even 15 years
after the reunification, -
2:52 - 2:56Germans still believed that cities
on the other side of the former wall -
2:56 - 2:59are further away than they really are.
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2:59 - 3:04The interesting thing is that they found
a link between political attitude -
3:04 - 3:06and estimation of the distance.
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3:06 - 3:11The more a participant was against
the German reunification, -
3:11 - 3:15the further away
they estimated cities to be. -
3:16 - 3:21It's the mental wall which keeps
cities on the other side far away, -
3:21 - 3:24and the higher and stronger
this mental wall, -
3:24 - 3:26the more difficult
they seem to be reached. -
3:27 - 3:28I tried to repeat this study
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3:28 - 3:31with a group of young Germans
who grew up without the wall -
3:31 - 3:34to see if these effects
are still measurable nowadays. -
3:35 - 3:38And the results show that this generation,
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3:38 - 3:39my generation,
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3:39 - 3:43is just kind of bad
at geography in general -- -
3:43 - 3:44(Laughter)
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3:44 - 3:46East and West.
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3:46 - 3:49But in our defense, this could be seen
as an improvement, right? -
3:49 - 3:52We never experienced the actual wall.
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3:52 - 3:56This physical barrier was never able
to make us build a mental wall -
3:56 - 3:57in the first place.
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3:58 - 4:01I would love to take this
as a serious indication -
4:01 - 4:05that there could be a future
without a mental wall dividing Germany, -
4:05 - 4:07but I think we have to face reality:
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4:07 - 4:09this one wall could be disappearing,
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4:09 - 4:12but in the meanwhile,
a billion others are constructed. -
4:13 - 4:16One global trend
we are currently experiencing -
4:16 - 4:18is the rise of gated communities.
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4:19 - 4:24And in a way, gated communities can be
seen the same exact way as countries, -
4:24 - 4:26just on the small scale --
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4:26 - 4:28neighborhoods surrounded
by walls and fences -
4:28 - 4:32to protect citizens from other citizens --
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4:32 - 4:35and the only difference is,
it's by choice. -
4:35 - 4:39But the physical and mental effects
on the people living inside -
4:39 - 4:41and the people kept outside
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4:41 - 4:42are the same,
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4:42 - 4:45separating cities, neighborhoods
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4:45 - 4:47and even playgrounds.
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4:48 - 4:52In the spring of last year,
I worked on a design project in Brussels -
4:52 - 4:54at two elementary schools
where this was the case. -
4:55 - 4:58Both the schools share an entrance
and the schoolyard. -
4:58 - 5:00Both schools teach in Dutch.
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5:01 - 5:04But one school is mainly visited
by Belgian children, -
5:04 - 5:06and the other school,
by immigrant children. -
5:06 - 5:09The schools are separated
by walls and fences, -
5:09 - 5:12leaving the children
no point of interaction -
5:12 - 5:15other than this fence on the schoolyard
that separates them. -
5:16 - 5:17When I started to work there,
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5:17 - 5:21it made me sad to see children
having to stand at a fence -
5:21 - 5:23to talk to their friend on the other side.
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5:24 - 5:27But what's even worse is that
most of the children -
5:27 - 5:31will never get the opportunity
to even make a friend on the other side. -
5:32 - 5:35School should be the place
where children, all children, -
5:35 - 5:37come together and learn --
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5:37 - 5:40learn from the teacher,
but more importantly, -
5:40 - 5:41learn from each other.
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5:41 - 5:44And the more diversity,
the more there is to learn. -
5:45 - 5:48In fact, school might be
the only time in our lives -
5:48 - 5:52where establishing a contact despite
social differences is even possible. -
5:53 - 5:56Separating children during
this time of their development -
5:56 - 5:59will make integration extremely difficult,
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5:59 - 6:01if not impossible.
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6:02 - 6:03And yet, somehow,
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6:03 - 6:07I seem to be the only one having
a problem with this fence in Brussels. -
6:07 - 6:10Most of the parents, teachers and children
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6:10 - 6:13stopped seeing or at least
questioning the structure. -
6:13 - 6:14It's just how it is.
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6:14 - 6:17Nobody has ever seen it differently.
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6:17 - 6:19And people are in favor of it.
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6:20 - 6:23I once asked a boy if he would like
to play with the other side, -
6:23 - 6:24and he said, "No."
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6:25 - 6:28Then I asked if he would play with them
if the fence wasn't there, -
6:28 - 6:30and he said, "Probably."
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6:30 - 6:32But then he quickly added
that the fence should stay, -
6:32 - 6:36because the other side is mean
and they never give back his ball. -
6:36 - 6:39It's funny, because I talked
to children from both sides, -
6:39 - 6:42and everyone told me
that the other side is mean -
6:42 - 6:45because they never give back the ball.
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6:45 - 6:47The children on both sides
dislike each other, -
6:47 - 6:51and there are regularly arguments
breaking out at this fence, -
6:51 - 6:54which is also the main reason
why people feel the need -
6:54 - 6:55for it to be there:
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6:55 - 6:57it protects the children from each other,
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6:57 - 6:59or at least their toys,
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6:59 - 7:01and it prevents chaos.
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7:01 - 7:04At some point, the children started
to crawl beneath the fence -
7:05 - 7:06to get their ball back,
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7:06 - 7:10and the reaction of the schools
was to put these metal plates there. -
7:10 - 7:13Now they climb over.
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7:13 - 7:15I don't know what came first in Brussels:
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7:15 - 7:20a mental wall that grew too strong
that it made them build a physical fence, -
7:20 - 7:23or this fence that now emphasizes
the social differences, -
7:23 - 7:25even on the schoolyard.
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7:25 - 7:27But what I did know
when I started to work there -
7:27 - 7:30was that I wanted to change something
about the situation. -
7:31 - 7:35I wanted to show both sides again
how much they have in common. -
7:36 - 7:38For children, this isn't very hard,
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7:38 - 7:40because even though
one schoolyard speaks Dutch -
7:40 - 7:44and the other schoolyard, a mix
of French, Turkish and Arabic, -
7:44 - 7:47they all speak the universal
language of play. -
7:47 - 7:50And it turned out the desire to play
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7:50 - 7:54is a lot stronger than all
the supposed differences between them. -
7:54 - 7:56I installed different games at the fence,
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7:56 - 7:59which turned it into an interface,
a common ground, -
7:59 - 8:00instead of a barrier.
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8:01 - 8:03And all of a sudden,
children were drawing together, -
8:03 - 8:05exchanging pencils
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8:05 - 8:07and talking on the phone.
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8:07 - 8:09Especially the phones
were a great success, -
8:09 - 8:10because they were so amazed
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8:10 - 8:13by the fact that they can hear
the other side through this device -
8:13 - 8:15that they couldn't stop speaking.
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8:17 - 8:20In the case of an elementary school,
parents play a very big role -
8:20 - 8:24in shaping the everyday life
and the environment of their children. -
8:24 - 8:27So I knew that if I wanted
to make a difference, -
8:27 - 8:30I had to somehow show them, too,
how much they have in common -
8:30 - 8:31with the other side.
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8:31 - 8:33But for parents, this was
a lot more difficult, -
8:33 - 8:36because most of them
speak different languages, -
8:36 - 8:38work different jobs
with different incomes, -
8:38 - 8:40live in different social circles,
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8:40 - 8:41believe in different religions,
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8:41 - 8:43experience different cultures
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8:43 - 8:44and share different values.
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8:44 - 8:47And then there was me,
a student, -
8:47 - 8:50different in all of these aspects again.
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8:50 - 8:52So how could I show them
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8:52 - 8:54how much they have in common?
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8:54 - 8:56I chose not to convince them myself
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8:57 - 8:59but by letting their own
children do the talking. -
9:00 - 9:03I designed a picture exhibition
on the schoolyard -
9:03 - 9:07showing them their children
playing together through the fence. -
9:07 - 9:09At the end of this exhibition,
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9:09 - 9:12I asked people to write down
their thoughts, ideas and wishes -
9:12 - 9:13on these big wooden boxes,
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9:13 - 9:16and I labeled the boxes
with, "What do you think?" -
9:16 - 9:19A lot of people wrote "Yes" on it.
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9:20 - 9:21Yes, what?
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9:22 - 9:25I never mentioned my opinion
or an action that should follow, -
9:25 - 9:28so which question
were they answering with yes? -
9:28 - 9:31When I asked, they said yes,
the fence should go. -
9:31 - 9:34Yes, we want to play with the other side.
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9:35 - 9:37The pictures implied enough
to answer a question -
9:37 - 9:39that was never proposed.
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9:39 - 9:42People were seeing the absurdity
of the situation again -
9:43 - 9:45and felt how unnecessary this fence is
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9:45 - 9:47without me forcing an opinion on them.
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9:49 - 9:53The exhibition showed the two sides
their similarities for once. -
9:53 - 9:55That day, there was no us and them,
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9:55 - 9:57there was no others.
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9:58 - 10:00The mental wall started to crumble.
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10:01 - 10:03I chose the word "crumbling,"
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10:03 - 10:06because breaking a mental wall
is a long journey, -
10:06 - 10:09and breaking a mental wall
can be a lot more difficult -
10:09 - 10:12than simply tearing down the physical one.
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10:12 - 10:15We have to challenge
our opinion and beliefs -
10:15 - 10:17and maybe even admit our own wrongs.
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10:18 - 10:22So what happened in Brussels
was a big step, -
10:22 - 10:26a step that has been taking
generations in Germany. -
10:27 - 10:29There are many examples
from all over the world -
10:29 - 10:33telling the same story I experienced
in Brussels and Germany, -
10:33 - 10:36enough examples from which
we could have learned. -
10:37 - 10:42But still, we seek walls as solutions
for problems that they cannot solve, -
10:42 - 10:46because walls don't fight
the root of our problem. -
10:47 - 10:50If anything, they reduce the symptoms.
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10:50 - 10:54So the next time you
are planning to build a wall -
10:54 - 10:58or you are planning to support someone
who wants to build a wall, -
10:58 - 11:02I want you to remember
the impact you are really having. -
11:02 - 11:06Because, this simple structure
will hardly create more security. -
11:07 - 11:11Instead, it will affect the people
living with it every day, -
11:11 - 11:14people who, despite the geographic border,
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11:14 - 11:17often share a lot of culture and values.
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11:17 - 11:21For them, you are not building
one wall but two, -
11:22 - 11:27two walls which will take decades
and generations to overcome again. -
11:28 - 11:30Thank you.
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11:30 - 11:33(Applause)
- Title:
- The intangible effects of walls
- Speaker:
- Alexandra Auer
- Description:
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More barriers exist now than at the end of World War II, says designer Alexandra Auer. And when you erect one wall, you unwittingly create a second -- an "us" versus "them" partition in the mind that compromises our collective safety. With intriguing results from her social design project focused on two elementary schools separated by a fence, Auer encourages us to dismantle our biases and regain perspective on all the things we have in common.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 11:48
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