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BBC Ancient Greece The Greatest Show on Earth - Democrats - 1/3

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    [booming music]
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    Distraught woman: My bed! My bridal! All for misery!
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    [Intense background music] And I cannot...
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    [pause]
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    I cannot...save my child from death!
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    Dr. Scott: This is one of the most shocking
    stories ever written.
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    A mother, a princess, has lost
    her city and her husband in war.
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    Now, she has to face the news
    that she is to be sold into slavery
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    and her only son –killed.
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    This film version of an ancient
    Greek play called Trojan Women
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    has become a classic.
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    The first time I saw it, I was moved
    to tears, and it still moves me now.
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    [pause]
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    It is a play about the most
    charged aspects of human life–
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    love, war, sacrifice,
    fear, and death.
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    And although it is set
    amongst the gods, myths,
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    and peoples of ancient Greece,
    it is still utterly gripping today.
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    It is one of the main reasons
    I study Classics.
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    [intense music]
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    An Athenian called Euripides
    wrote this play
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    a little under two and
    a half thousand years ago.
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    Back then, he was often
    ridiculed as an angry young man.
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    But, over time, his plays
    have come to symbolize
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    the incredible sophistication of
    ancient Greek civilization.
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    [ambiguous sound effect]
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    That civilization has influenced
    almost every aspect of our lives.
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    Not just drama, but politics,
    language, philosophy,
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    art and architecture.
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    [walking, sad music]
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    To understand ourselves,
    it turns out,
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    we need to understand
    the ancient Greeks.
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    And the best seat from which
    to do that, for my money,
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    is in the theater.
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    [soaring music]
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    This series is about how
    ancient drama changed our world.
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    It's the story of dramatists
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    like Aeschylus,
    Sophocles and Euripides,
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    who revolutionized
    storytelling through plays
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    like Trojan Women, Antigone,
    Oedipus, and The Oresteia.
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    [instrumental music]
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    It's the story of
    how the Ancient Greeks
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    gave birth to tragedy and comedy.
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    And it's the story of how theater
    spread throughout Greece and beyond,
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    becoming a benchmark
    of civilization,
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    not just for Greeks,
    but for the world—
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    then and now.
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    [music continues]
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    In this episode,
    I want to journey to Athens
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    to explore how drama first began.
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    From the very start, it was
    about more than just entertainment–
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    it was a reaction to real events,
    it was a driving force in history,
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    and it was deeply connected
    to Athenian democracy.
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    In fact, the story of theater
    IS the story of Athens–
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    the cultural hub of ancient Greece
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    and the stage for one
    of the greatest shows on earth.
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    [dramatic theme music]
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    [instrumental music]
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    The story of drama as we know it
    begins in a particular place,
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    and a particular time–
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    Athens in the 6th century
    before Christ.
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    At that time,
    Greece was not a single country,
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    but a mass of competing
    city-states, or "polis"–
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    the Greek term describing
    a body of citizens.
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    [pause]
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    But in the late 6th century,
    the polis of Athens
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    pulled ahead of the others
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    politically, economically
    and culturally.
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    [birds chirping, music]
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    In the last part
    of the 6th century BC,
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    Athens was the breeding ground
    for two extraordinary inventions.
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    The first was democracy.
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    Athens was ruled, not by kings
    or by cliques of aristocrats,
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    but by the votes of
    its own citizens.
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    But the second was theater.
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    Athens invented an entirely
    new art form: drama.
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    And these two inventions
    were tightly intertwined
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    at the beating heart
    of Athenian society.
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    And both of them were the result
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    of an extraordinary
    cultural revolution.
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    [pause, instrumental
    music]
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    At this time, the whole of
    ancient Greek culture
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    underwent a historic transformation.
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    The revolution extended
    from architecture to literature,
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    from vase painting to philosophy.
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    You can see the impact
    of that revolution clearly
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    in how Greek sculpture developed.
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    In the middle 6th century
    it was rigid, stylized,
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    lacking movement and life.
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    But then things began to change.
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    By the 5th century,
    Greek artists began
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    to produce some of the greatest
    life-like sculptures ever made.
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    [pause]
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    It all amounted, not
    just to a new-looking world,
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    but to a whole new
    view of the world.
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    We call it the Classical World.
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    And in this ground-breaking epoch,
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    drama was perhaps
    the biggest innovation of them all.
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    [pause]
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    Tales of love, death and war
    had always been passed on
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    by storytellers and epic poems
    like Homer's Iliad
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    and savage myths had been
    celebrated in choral dance and song.
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    BUT the Athenians added actors and
    invented the idea of performance.
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    These epic stories would now
    play out, not only in the mind,
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    but live on stage.
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    This was more than innovation,
    this was a revolution.
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    [pause]
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    Prof. Taplin: Never before in the Greek
    tradition that we know of,
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    in the Greek storytelling tradition,
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    were things enacted
    rather than narrated.
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    So, instead of having, "And then
    the king drew his sword and said..."
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    Instead, a person actually
    draws a sword and speaks.
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    I know we sort of say,
    "Well, children do that"
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    but to do it with
    serious storytelling,
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    with storytelling that
    actually delves into
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    important roots in human behavior,
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    that is a very new step, and to
    have it done in front of you,
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    I think that must have been
    a very, very startling innovation.
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    Actor: The son of Thyestes...
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    Dr. Scott: Ancient Greek drama looked
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    and sounded very different
    from drama as we know it today.
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    There were no more
    than three or four actors.
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    There was a chorus who interrupted
    the action with song and dance,
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    and all the performers wore masks.
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    [intense drum music, silence]
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    Prof. Taplin: When an actor began to
    enact rather than narrate,
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    there's a kind of
    dangerousness about that,
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    that the actor has
    to become a woman,
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    the actor has
    to become a slave,
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    the actor, perhaps even
    more dangerously,
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    has to become a god, and
    it's almost as if the mask
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    is a kind of signal
    of the profession,
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    that protects the actor against
    the danger of doing these things.
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    [dark music]
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    Actor: Blood shoot of Aetrius...
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    [muffled speech]
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    Prof. Taplin: The chorus are costumed
    and masked in an identical
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    or near identical way and they
    move and speak as a group.
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    The chorus is not a bunch
    of individuals.
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    For the Greeks,
    the chorus was a group.
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    In which, in a sense,
    they submerged their identity.
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    AND what the chorus does is,
    in its groupness,
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    it tries to make sense of
    what it's witnessing.
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    They're deeply emotionally involved,
    and the suffering becomes a song.
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    And the chorus, as a group,
    with its group response,
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    sings its choral lyrics.
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    Different actors: You did it? Plotted it? You?
    Single-handed? The people will stone him.
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    Chorus: You don't stand a chance.
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    [intense music]
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    Prof. Taplin: It seems to me, that the crucial
    thing is that it is simultaneously
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    a very strong emotional experience,
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    and a very strong
    thought experience.
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    [drum beat, fades to quiet]
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    Dr. Scott: When the Greeks came to
    analyze their new art form,
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    they discerned three
    different types of play.
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    Two of which we still have with
    us today - tragedy and comedy.
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    But, in many ways,
    modern tragedy has actually changed
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    from how ancient tragedy worked.
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    For us, tragedy is a
    play with a sad ending,
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    but for the ancient Greeks,
    tragedy was a play
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    in which the events offered
    the audience a tough decision.
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    And because no real ancient
    tragedy ends conclusively—
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    siding with one
    course of action or another—
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    what it does is face
    the audience with a problem.
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    What would THEY do if they
    were in the same situation?
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    [instrumental music]
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    Take one of the most
    famous plays ever written,
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    Oedipus The King by Sophocles.
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    It tells the story of Oedipus,
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    a man who was destined to kill
    his father and marry his mother.
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    Although this outcome
    is predicted by an oracle,
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    Oedipus himself makes
    a series of free choices
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    that lead to its fulfillment–
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    choices that would have posed
    serious questions for the audience.
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    The play ends with Oedipus
    blinding himself in despair.
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    [intense, then calm music]
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    The issues dealt with in tragedy
    were often so disturbing
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    that the plays were nearly always
    set away from Athens,
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    in the land of myth and legend,
    or at very least a far away city.
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    And after a series of tragedies,
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    the Athenians were
    offered a satyr play.
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    Now, we don't have
    this any more today,
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    but effectively the satyrs
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    were the half-male, half-goat
    companions of the god of revelry,
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    who would be allowed
    to run around the stage
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    doing lots of lewd and bawdy things
    as a bit of light relief.
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    But what we do have today is comedy.
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    And ancient comedy,
    just like tragedy,
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    spoke directly to
    contemporary Athenians.
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    [playful music]
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    Usually set in a topsy-turvy
    version of real life,
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    or in a realm of fantasy, they
    poked fun at contemporary Athens.
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    The Birds is a play that mocks
    the Athenian obsession
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    with litigation and politics.
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    It tells the story of two men
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    who are tired of a life of
    law courts and civic duties.
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    To escape, they turn
    themselves into birds
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    and create a bird city-in-the-sky
    called Cloud Cuckoo Land
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    where they reject all attempts to
    impose Athenian-style law and order.
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    Both comedy and tragedy
    sought to have a direct bearing
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    on life in Athens.
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    And most fascinating of all, is how
    they seamlessly blended together
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    religion and myth with
    contemporary politics.
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    This means that a play
    like The Oresteia by Aeschylus
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    can start with a mythic
    tale from the Trojan wars
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    where Agamemnon is murdered by his
    wife and avenged by his son Orestes,
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    but can end in a courtroom,
    in democratic Athens,
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    with Orestes on trial
    for the murder of his mother.
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    [booming music]
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    Dr. Wyles: The Oresteia is one of the
    biggest hits in antiquity,
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    it's also one of the very
    few trilogies that we've got.
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    So what you have is three tragedies
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    and, in this case,
    it's got a connected story.
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    Dr. Scott: How does tragedy take this,
    this, this smorgasbord if you like,
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    and make it into a story?
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    Dr. Wyles: Well it's not the same problem
    for the ancient Greeks
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    as it might be for us.
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    You know there's not this
    idea of anachronism.
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    Your mythical world, with
    the gods, with the Trojan war—
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    all of this that we've had in
    the first parts with the trilogy—
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    can then end in that third part
    with a law court in Athens,
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    which would have been familiar,
    of course,
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    from 1st century
    contemporary Athens.
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    So you have this brilliant genre
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    where you can zoom from your
    present day into the past
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    and bring your past
    into your present day.
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    And it's that relationship,
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    that tragedy uses to be able to say things
    about its contemporary society.
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    [transitional music]
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    Dr. Scott: To find out more about how
    drama and democratic Athens
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    became so intimately connected,
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    I want to look at how
    theater first emerged.
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    [quiet music]
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    Everything in ancient Greece
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    came under the auspices
    of a particular god,
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    and the god controlling theater
    was called Dionysus.
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    He was also the god
    of wine and revelry
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    and many scholars think that
    theater evolved directly
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    out of the choral songs
    performed in honor of Dionysus.
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    But there's also something
    else going on here.
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    Something that is
    suggested by the ruins
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    at a place called Thorikos,
    near Athens.
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    [quiet harp-sounding music]
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    This region was once home to
    the ancient Athenian silver mines
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    but is also the site
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    of the oldest stone-built theater
    in the Greek world.
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    We're in an industrial heartland
    of the ancient Athenian state,
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    with the ore washeries
    and the mine shafts
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    just beyond the theater here.
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    [pause]
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    The first phase of this theatre
    is late 6th century
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    and that puts it in the same time
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    as the invention of
    Athenian democracy itself.
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    Which throws up another question–
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    just what is the relationship
    between theater and democracy?
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    And how did the two
    help each other into being?
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    [contemplative music]
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    It's a question that has been
    debated by scholars for centuries–
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    were theater and democracy
    connected from the very start?
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    Prof. Cartledge: Now I actually buy into
    the story that tragic drama
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    IS a democratic invention.
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    I have a particular take
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    because I am one of those who
    think that Athenian tragic drama
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    was deeply, strongly politicized.
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    Not just, it happened in a polis,
    but it happened in a polis
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    of a particular sort and could
    not have happened before Athens
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    became a polis of that
    particular sort, a democratic one.
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    Prof. Osborne: The theatrical side
    seems to coincide
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    fairly closely with
    the political identity.
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    Theatrical activities of
    some sort or another
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    were one of the ways in which
    they expressed the fact
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    that now they all belonged together,
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    this was the place to which they
    came and in which they acted.
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    It's about, you know,
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    the local community feeling
    itself to be a local community.
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    [string music]
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    Dr. Scott: I'm on my way to visit one of the
    smaller Athenian communities
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    to try and find some more proof
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    about the connection
    between drama and politics.
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    I want to see what the archaeology
    itself has to say.
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    [music]
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    Now, neither for theater
    nor democracy,
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    was there any kind of
    immaculate conception.
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    Nor were either born
    into the fully-developed form
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    that we recognize them today.
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    Both developed,
    arm-in-arm, over time.
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    And all around us
    as we drive in Attica,
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    we can see the building blocks,
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    the basis of the Athenian
    democratic system.
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    [dramatic music]
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    People tend to think of
    Athenians as city dwellers,
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    but much of the population
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    actually lived in village
    communities called demes.
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    There were 139 demes making up
    the Athenian democracy
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    and each deme governed itself.
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    The deme I'm looking for
    is one of the remotest–
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    it's called Rhamnous.
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    The people who lived here
    were mostly farmers,
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    but all the male citizens
    voted for the council,
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    and on local regulations
    and on by-laws.
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    And right at the heart
    of the community,
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    are the remains of what
    was once a theater.
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    [pause, dramatic music]
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    This is what I've come looking
    for on this very hot afternoon–
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    an inscription that
    shows us democracy
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    at its most local
    level in operation.
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    [pause]
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    "Dionisoi": to Dionysus...
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    "Hypo tes boules": from the Boule,
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    the local council controlling
    this deme, here in Attica.
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    And it's to Dionysus because,
    yes, you've guessed it,
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    we're in a theater –a theater,
    the space of Dionysus.
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    The privileged seats for the
    distinguished local clientele,
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    and the stage set out before us.
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    Religion, politics, theater...
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    at democracy's most local level.
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    [dramatic piano music]
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    These theaters really were far more
    than just places of entertainment,
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    they were places where the whole
    deme would gather together.
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    [pause]
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    No-one's going to bother
    to build a theater
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    just for a couple of days
    of drama a year.
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    But the theaters here,
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    at the lowest, most basic level
    of the Athenian democracy,
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    seem to have also been used
    as multi-purpose civic spaces,
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    giving them all-year-round
    potential, not just for drama,
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    but also for democracy
    and democratic action itself.
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    And THAT is what the archaeology
    is really beginning to uncover–
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    not only the demes,
    but the deme theaters,
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    spreading across all of Attica.
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    [upbeat dramatic music]
  • 16:41 - 16:44
    The use of theaters
    for democratic activity
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    seems to have been the case,
    not just in the demes,
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    but in the city of Athens itself.
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    Every year, the democratic
    authorities spent a fortune
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    on the Great Dionysia Festival:
    a drama competition
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    that took place in
    the Theater of Dionysus
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    in honor of the god of theater.
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    It's through understanding the
    different stages of this festival
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    that we can get closer to
    understanding what ancient Athenians
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    experienced when they
    watched and created drama.
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    The festival began
    with a procession–
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    a rowdy affair with
    feasting, drinking,
  • 17:16 - 17:19
    and a great crowd of people
    parading through the streets
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    with a statue of the god and a
    small herd of sacrificial animals.
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    When it reached the altar of the
    12 Olympian Gods in the marketplace,
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    the first thing that happened
    was a holy dance.
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    Dr. Agelidis: The cult of Dionysus
    is very much
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    a psychological thing.
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    You know wine was, of course,
    very important, for Dionysus,
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    everyone knows that,
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    but the thing was that by
    drinking wine,
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    you were getting closer to the god
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    and the more wine you drink,
    the more you step out of yourself
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    and get closer to the god.
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    And that is also what happens
    when you're dancing,
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    you're getting outside yourself,
    so to say, but also by, for example,
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    wearing a mask...
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    The ancient people thought
    that when you were wearing a mask,
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    you really become someone else.
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    Dr: Scott: And the Greek word is...
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    Dr Agelidis: It's ecstasies.
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    Dr Scott: So "ec" - out, "stasis" -
    of one's self, of one's stance.
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    Dr Agelidis: Yes.
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    Dr. Scott: And that's our ecstasy.
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    Dr. Agelidis: It is the ecstasy as we know it.
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    Dr. Scott: The ecstasy of the god.
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    Dr. Agelidis: Yeah.
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    [celebratory music]
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    Dr. Scott: The procession then
    surged through the streets
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    along a route lined with tripods—
  • 18:34 - 18:38
    monuments put up by the proud
    sponsors of the winning plays.
  • 18:38 - 18:40
    Often politicians,
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    they spent fortunes
    funding dramatic productions,
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    and marked their victories
    with monuments like this one:
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    put up by a winner
    from the 4th century BC.
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    [triumphant music]
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    So, the drama festival was more than
    an opportunity for staging plays,
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    it was a chance for the
    leading figures of Athens
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    to stage their generosity, and
    their success to the whole city.
  • 19:02 - 19:07
    Finally, having wound its way
    right around the Acropolis,
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    the procession emerged noisily
    into the precinct of Dionysus.
  • 19:11 - 19:14
    By now, the participants
    were becoming a single entity.
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    Dr. Agelidis: It was a religious but also
    a political incident, actually.
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    You know, the whole city, so to say,
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    steps towards the god
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    so in order to worship the god.
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    And they show not only their piety
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    but also that they belong together.
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    Dr. Scott: So... It's an extraordinary
    idea, isn't it?
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    That when they take their seats
    in theater, it's no longer,
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    we would say in English, "It's no
    longer Joe Bloggs and somebody"—
  • 19:45 - 19:47
    it's no longer the farmer
    and the individuals,
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    it is a collective of people
    with a new identity—
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    which is that of worshipers
    of the god Dionysus.
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    Dr. Agelidis: Yes, correct.
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    Dr. Scott: It's a bit different to going to the
    theater today, right?
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    Dr. Agelidis: It is indeed.
    [both laugh]
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    [calm music]
  • 20:01 - 20:05
    Dr. Scott: All of this put the audience
    into a receptive state
  • 20:05 - 20:07
    for the drama competition
    that was to follow.
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    But first, as they took their seats
    in the theater,
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    there was one more important
    set of rituals to come.
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    [brief music]
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    The audience were seated here,
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    perhaps in the same groupings
    as when they went to war.
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    The citizens of Athens
    who were acting on the stage,
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    were acting in the same groups
    as when they went to war.
  • 20:26 - 20:29
    And in the front seats of the
    theater were the reserved seats
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    for various priests of the city, and
    for the important civic officials.
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    And then, before the plays began,
    there were a series of events.
  • 20:38 - 20:42
    First, a libation
    (an offering to the gods) were poured
  • 20:42 - 20:44
    in the center of the
    stage by the generals,
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    the military generals of the city.
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    Then, a parade of tribute,
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    of all the money paid by the cities
    and states of the Athenian empire
  • 20:53 - 20:56
    to Athens, was literally
    taken across the stage,
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    paraded in front of an audience
    that contained members
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    from those same city and states
    who'd had to pay all that money.
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    Then a list of all those who had
    benefited the city in some way
  • 21:07 - 21:07
    was read out.
  • 21:07 - 21:12
    And finally, onto the stage
    were brought the orphans,
  • 21:12 - 21:16
    those whose parents had died
    fighting for the city in battle,
  • 21:16 - 21:18
    and whom the city would now
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    take on the expenses of
    bringing up and educating.
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    They came on, dressed themselves
    in the armor of war
  • 21:26 - 21:29
    and took their seats, their
    special seats here in the theater.
  • 21:29 - 21:32
    Only then did the plays begin.
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    [intense music]
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    From dawn until dusk, for five days,
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    the citizen audience watched
    three playwrights
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    each put on three tragedies
    as well as a farcical satyr play,
  • 21:45 - 21:46
    and some comedies.
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    At their heart were issues
    of justice and loyalty,
  • 21:49 - 21:53
    war and peace,
    vengeance and compassion,
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    which sent powerful
    messages to the citizen audience.
  • 21:56 - 21:59
    [pause]
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    In the centuries
    of Athens' greatness,
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    over 1,000 plays were written
    for the Dionysia.
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    But today, just 32 of them
    survive in full.
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    And those 32 have survived, in part,
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    because they were considered
    to be the greatest.
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    And they were all written
    by just three people—
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    Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides—
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    the great tragedians
    of the 5th century BC.
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    [dramatic music]
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    Aeschylus was the first.
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    He was the author of the Oresteia,
  • 22:29 - 22:31
    the only whole trilogy
    to have survived.
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    Sophocles wrote
    two of the most enduring plays,
  • 22:35 - 22:37
    Oedipus The King and Antigone,
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    which tells the tragic story
    of Oedipus' daughter
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    who is sentenced to death
  • 22:42 - 22:44
    for breaking the law and
    burying her rebel brother.
  • 22:44 - 22:48
    But, of all the playwrights,
    Euripides is now considered
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    in many ways to have been the best.
  • 22:50 - 22:53
    He wrote the play Medea,
    with its shocking tale
  • 22:53 - 22:55
    of a woman betrayed by her husband
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    who takes revenge
    by killing her own children.
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    The playwrights of ancient Athens
    were all gurus of the city
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    in one form or another:
    Aeschylus the war hero,
  • 23:07 - 23:09
    Sophocles the civic official,
  • 23:09 - 23:13
    and Euripides, the sort of "enfant
    terrible" of Athenian society.
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    [inhales]
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    The Greek word for playwright
    is "didaskalos",
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    which means "trainer", or "teacher".
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    Now, in part, that refers
    to the playwright's role
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    in training the chorus
    for their play,
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    but many believe it also refers
    to the role of the playwright
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    in training the audience for
    participation in democracy itself.
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    If we take Sophocles' Ajax,
    as an example,
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    it's a retelling of a classic myth
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    set in the time of the legendary war
    between the Greeks and the Trojans.
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    And, on the one hand, it's just that,
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    but on the other it's also a lesson,
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    a lesson in the sacrifices that have
    to be made for democracy to work.
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    [foreboding music]
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    Ajax was one of the warriors who
    fought with the Greeks at Troy.
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    After the death of Achilles,
    the greatest hero of them all,
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    the Greeks take a vote on
    who should get his weapons.
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    They choose Odysseus, not Ajax,
    and Ajax is furious.
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    [thunder]
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    Unable to accept the result of the
    vote, he goes on a killing spree.
  • 24:23 - 24:26
    And ultimately, consumed
    by the shame of his actions...
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    he is driven to suicide.
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    [music continues,
    stops]
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    The motor of this play is a vote:
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    a process that would
    have been very familiar
  • 24:36 - 24:39
    to the democratic citizens
    of ancient Athens.
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    But it's a vote that
    Ajax refuses to accept.
  • 24:43 - 24:47
    Ajax is the antithesis of
    the good democratic citizen.
  • 24:47 - 24:48
    [pause]
  • 24:48 - 24:50
    But the play also goes further.
  • 24:50 - 24:52
    Because, for me, the key moment
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    is actually what happens
    after Ajax's death.
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    What Sophocles has
    the other Greeks do
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    is debate about how
    they should proceed.
  • 24:59 - 25:03
    And some argue that Ajax should not
    be buried because of his actions
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    but Odysseus steps in to
    argue that he should be buried.
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    [sweeping music]
  • 25:07 - 25:12
    "Do not fling his body out unburied,
    treated so unfeelingly.
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    And don't let force have such
    control of you that you allow
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    your hate to trample justice down."
  • 25:19 - 25:23
    For scholars, this is the
    critical point in the play.
  • 25:23 - 25:24
    [pause]
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    Prof Osborne: There's a real danger in Ajax
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    that because you've
    got these two extraordinary episodes
  • 25:29 - 25:31
    that are bloody and shocking,
  • 25:31 - 25:33
    you think the play
    is about those two episodes
  • 25:33 - 25:34
    that are bloody and shocking.
  • 25:34 - 25:38
    But I think the play is about
    the process of debate
  • 25:38 - 25:41
    that leads to decisions
  • 25:41 - 25:46
    in the wake of actions that really
    you haven't been able to cope with.
  • 25:46 - 25:51
    And so, this is a play
    that stages debate
  • 25:51 - 25:54
    and it stages it in all its forms.
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    Prof. Hall: One way of thinking about Ajax
    is as a Homerical Bronze Age
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    or archaic warrior stuck in a much
    more modern political system.
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    He has values about being
    an individual and being a hero,
  • 26:06 - 26:08
    not being a co-operative person...
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    that make him very, very difficult,
  • 26:11 - 26:15
    as if individuals can no longer
    be powerful figures in the democracy.
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    Dr. Scott: A man out of time,
    out of place?
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    Dr. Hall: Yes.
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    Dr. Osborne: So, this may be someone who
    is hardly a role model citizen,
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    but there are going to
    be lots of people in Athens
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    who are hardly role model citizens.
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    [sweeping instrumental music]
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    Dr. Scott: Athens, no doubt, would have
    had its own fair share of bigheads
  • 26:35 - 26:39
    and glory seekers - people who just
    wouldn't work within the democracy.
  • 26:39 - 26:41
    And this play plays out the dilemma
  • 26:41 - 26:44
    of what do you do with
    those kinds of people?
  • 26:44 - 26:46
    How do you keep
    the democracy on track?
  • 26:46 - 26:50
    And that, for me, is why Odysseus'
    intervention is so crucial,
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    because he shows that you need
    to have empathy with these people
  • 26:53 - 26:55
    and you need to let
    justice run its course.
  • 26:55 - 26:58
    Odysseus offers a way
    for the community
  • 26:58 - 27:01
    to come back together, make a
    joint decision and move forward.
  • 27:01 - 27:02
    [pause]
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    And that's why this play
    is such a great example
  • 27:06 - 27:10
    of what theater did in
    ancient Athenian society—
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    it told a story, it posed problems,
  • 27:13 - 27:15
    it asked questions,
    questions of the audience
  • 27:15 - 27:18
    about what would you do
    in this kind of situation,
  • 27:18 - 27:22
    a situation which they would
    undoubtedly have to face up to
  • 27:22 - 27:23
    at some point in their lives.
  • 27:23 - 27:25
    [dramatic music]
  • 27:25 - 27:29
    Theater was vital to the
    processes that played out
  • 27:29 - 27:32
    here on the Pnyx,
    home of the Athenian assembly.
  • 27:32 - 27:35
    It was the oil that allowed
    democracy to function.
  • 27:35 - 27:39
    A contained space which allowed
    for a continual process
  • 27:39 - 27:42
    of risky reflection,
    self-doubt, and debate.
  • 27:43 - 27:45
    It's no accident that
    the most important words
  • 27:45 - 27:48
    in any Greek tragedy are
    "Ti draso?" -
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    "What shall I do?"
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    Theater and democracy
    had grown up together
  • 27:54 - 27:57
    and were now inextricably
    linked in Athenian minds
  • 27:57 - 28:00
    and every year, for almost
    the next two centuries,
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    the Athenians came to the theater
  • 28:02 - 28:06
    to rework the old myths
    into tragic dramas
  • 28:06 - 28:08
    that spoke to the problems
    that had beset
  • 28:08 - 28:11
    and were fundamental
  • 28:11 - 28:14
    to one of the most important and
    interesting stories in history–
  • 28:14 - 28:16
    The Rise and Fall of Athens.
  • 28:17 - 28:20
    And, at the same time, those
    very same people were here,
  • 28:20 - 28:23
    in the assembly,
    making the decisions
  • 28:23 - 28:25
    that affected those events.
  • 28:25 - 28:27
    [dramatic music]
  • 28:27 - 28:29
    It's therefore no surprise
  • 28:29 - 28:32
    that a common subject matter
    in Athenian drama
  • 28:32 - 28:36
    was a problem that constantly
    dogged the Athenian assembly: war.
  • 28:36 - 28:40
    And one war in particular
    fired the imagination
  • 28:40 - 28:41
    of the playwright Aeschylus,
  • 28:41 - 28:43
    who lived through
    the real life drama
  • 28:43 - 28:46
    and was inspired
    to write what is now
  • 28:46 - 28:49
    the first ancient Greek play
    to survive in full.
  • 28:49 - 28:54
    In 490 BC, less than 20 years
    after the democracy was established,
  • 28:54 - 28:59
    Athens was attacked by the greatest
    power on earth - the Persian empire.
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    [men screaming]
  • 29:02 - 29:06
    The first crisis came at Marathon,
    26 miles from the city of Athens.
  • 29:06 - 29:08
    [intense music]
  • 29:08 - 29:11
    A Persian fleet arrived
    with an enormous army.
  • 29:11 - 29:14
    Although outnumbered,
    the Athenians attacked,
  • 29:14 - 29:17
    and against all the odds,
    they triumph.
  • 29:17 - 29:18
    [pause]
  • 29:18 - 29:22
    The Athenian dead were commemorated
    by a memorial barrow
  • 29:22 - 29:23
    near the battlefield,
  • 29:23 - 29:26
    which is impressive even today.
  • 29:26 - 29:27
    [pause]
  • 29:27 - 29:30
    But ten years later,
    the Persians were back with an army
  • 29:30 - 29:32
    said to have been
    more than a million strong.
  • 29:32 - 29:36
    As it bore down on Athens,
    the assembly passed a heroic decree
  • 29:36 - 29:40
    at the urging of a leading
    general called Themistocles.
  • 29:40 - 29:42
    Amazingly, a later copy
    of the decree
  • 29:42 - 29:45
    actually survives
    in an Athens museum.
  • 29:45 - 29:50
    This is one of the most evocative
    inscriptions surviving to us today.
  • 29:50 - 29:54
    It's a decree of the people
    of Athens and here's the key word:
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    "Salamina" - Salamis.
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    This is the decree
    recording the decision
  • 30:00 - 30:04
    by the Athenian people
    to evacuate their home city
  • 30:04 - 30:06
    and go to the island of Salamis
  • 30:06 - 30:09
    to save themselves from the
    invading hordes of Persians.
  • 30:09 - 30:14
    This is the record of
    one of the most key moments
  • 30:14 - 30:15
    in the whole of ancient history.
  • 30:15 - 30:19
    [pause, music]
  • 30:19 - 30:22
    The Athenians abandoned their city
    and took to their ships,
  • 30:22 - 30:26
    leaving only a few men
    barricaded on the Acropolis.
  • 30:26 - 30:27
    [pause]
  • 30:27 - 30:31
    The Persians ransacked the city,
    destroying the temples.
  • 30:31 - 30:33
    But the Athenian gamble paid off –
  • 30:33 - 30:36
    the Athenian fleet
    defeated the Persians
  • 30:36 - 30:38
    in the narrows off Salamis.
  • 30:38 - 30:40
    Greece was saved.
  • 30:40 - 30:41
    [pause]
  • 30:41 - 30:45
    And witnessing it all, not from afar
    but at close range, was Aeschylus.
  • 30:45 - 30:47
    [music, pause]
  • 30:47 - 30:52
    Aeschylus wasn't just a playwright -
    he was also a soldier.
  • 30:52 - 30:56
    He stood in the Athenian
    ranks on the plane at Marathon,
  • 30:56 - 30:59
    on that fateful day when
    the Persians first arrived.
  • 30:59 - 31:02
    He was part of the
    victorious Athenian army,
  • 31:02 - 31:05
    but he also lost his brother
    on the battlefield.
  • 31:05 - 31:06
    [pause]
  • 31:06 - 31:08
    Aeschylus, in his own epitaph,
  • 31:08 - 31:12
    preferred to be remembered for
    his role here at Marathon,
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    rather than for his plays.
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    Without doubt, it was his
    extraordinary experiences
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    here on the battlefield that
    gave him a unique perspective
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    and allowed him
    to represent war on stage
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    in a way that has echoed ever since.
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    [scattered drums]
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    Aeschylus composed over
    90 plays in his lifetime
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    and of the few that survive,
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    the play that he composed
    about these great events
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    is one of the most moving,
    and one of the most fascinating.
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    In 472 BC, Aeschylus produced
    a play called The Persians,
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    and it's the first ancient tragedy
    to survive to us in full today.
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    Its sponsor was no-one less than
    the future democratic hero Pericles.
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    But what's really surprising
    about it is its subject matter,
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    because it tells the story
    of how the Persians
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    reacted to the news of their defeat
    at the battle of Salamis,
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    a battle that those in the
    audience had fought and won
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    just eight years before.
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    [drum music]
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    The play is set in
    the Persian capital.
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    A messenger arrives
    at the Persian court
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    with the news of the Greek victory.
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    The Persians cannot believe
    that they have been defeated,
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    and they fall to pieces.
  • 32:26 - 32:28
    In their misery,
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    they summon the ghost of the
    previous King Darius for advice.
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    The ghost of Darius
    tells the Persians
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    that they themselves
    are to blame for their defeat,
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    because their pride
    and their ambition
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    has led them to disregard the gods.
  • 32:42 - 32:44
    [foreboding music]
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    "The voiceless heaps of slaughtered
    corpses shall eloquently show
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    that no one human should
    puff up inflated thoughts.
  • 32:52 - 32:56
    You see how insolence,
    once opened into flower,
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    produces fields ripe with calamity
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    and reaps a harvest-home
    of sorrow."
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    This is the crucial
    theme of the play.
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    Dr Wyles: Well, I think, really, at its heart,
    really it's almost a tragedy about hubris.
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    [Scott hmms] This idea of, sometimes
    translated as "arrogance",
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    something like that - going too far,
    crossing a line, transgressing.
  • 33:18 - 33:21
    And the Persians had done that.
  • 33:21 - 33:24
    They thought big, they thought
    they could go and take Greece.
  • 33:24 - 33:27
    They didn't win and, actually,
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    part of what the play is exploring
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    is the idea that
    big empires can fall.
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    Dr. Scott: What kind of resonance
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    and implications does a play
    like The Persians have for us today?
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    Dr. Wyles: It deals with one of these eternal
    themes - it looks at war.
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    And it looks at the destruction,
    the loss,
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    the risks you run if you go to war.
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    They became really popular
    with the Gulf War
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    and then with the Iraq War as well and
    this is a really interesting one.
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    In some modern productions,
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    what you get is costume
    that really tells you
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    that the audience should be making
    a link with contemporary war.
  • 34:04 - 34:08
    Dr. Scott: What point is Aeschylus making,
    do you think, with that?
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    Dr. Wyles: I mean this is an amazingly
    difficult question to answer,
  • 34:11 - 34:15
    you can't even imagine how this
    must have felt for the audience
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    when they'd had their city sacked,
    they'd really come close
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    to being completely
    occupied by Persia.
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    This play is, on one level
    really celebratory... [Scott: Yeah].
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    But you have to imagine it
    operating on another level as well
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    because there are incredibly
    moving speeches in this —
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    the language isn't just
    victorious, if you like.
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    I think it tells us a lot
    about what tragedy is doing,
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    it is complex and it doesn't
    make it easy on the audience
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    and it's really asking
    the society to reflect.
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    [somber, eerie music]
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    Dr. Scott: This play, for me, is both an
    exception to normal tragedy
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    AND a fantastic example of it.
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    It's an exception because unlike
    most that focus on mythical stories,
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    this focuses on real
    and recent history.
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    But it's a fantastic example
    of what tragedy does
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    because it doesn't
    just allow the Athenians
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    to gloat over their victory.
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    Instead, it offers a warning.
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    For the Persians,
    pride came before a fall,
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    and at a time when Athens
    and the Athenians
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    were beginning to grow in their
    own power within the Greek world,
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    the play offers that same message—
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    "be careful or you too could end up
    just like the Persians."
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    [birds]
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    [intense music]
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    This warning had a direct bearing
    on the current situation in Athens.
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    [music continues]
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    In the aftermath
    of the Persian wars,
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    Athens reached the peak
    of her power and influence
  • 35:47 - 35:51
    and the fleet that had
    secured victory at Salamis
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    now reached out across the Aegean.
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    [eerie music]
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    Athens became the leading city-state
    in a new anti-Persian alliance.
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    But what began as a free coalition,
    was soon under Athenian control.
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    [music continues]
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    The financial muscle at Athens'
    command allowed it eventually
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    to turn the free alliance
    of Greek cities and states,
  • 36:14 - 36:17
    that had been brought together
    to wreak revenge on the Persians,
  • 36:17 - 36:21
    into an empire solely to
    support the glory of Athens.
  • 36:21 - 36:24
    And it was policed by the mighty
  • 36:24 - 36:27
    and yet brutal majesty
    of the supreme Athenian fleet.
  • 36:27 - 36:30
    The war-chest of
    that free alliance,
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    which had been kept on
    the sacred island of Delos,
  • 36:32 - 36:35
    was moved to Athens,
    placed on the Acropolis
  • 36:35 - 36:38
    and eventually into
    a building –the Parthenon–
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    which has today become synonymous
    with democracy and freedom.
  • 36:41 - 36:44
    And yet which was originally built
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    with the blood-money of
    Athenian empire.
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    [more dramatic music]
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    Every year, each city
    in the alliance or empire,
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    contributed money
    in silver as tribute,
  • 36:55 - 36:59
    and this money was displayed
    in the theatre, in Athens,
  • 36:59 - 37:01
    at the Great Dionysia Festival.
  • 37:01 - 37:05
    But when any members of the
    empire refused these payments,
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    Athens sent a fleet to attack them.
  • 37:07 - 37:10
    Having an empire meant
    that the Athenian assembly
  • 37:10 - 37:12
    was now making
    life-or-death decisions,
  • 37:12 - 37:17
    not just about themselves, but about
    cities and peoples far away
  • 37:17 - 37:19
    who had no real say in the matter.
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    [intense music]
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    These decisions were far from
    easy, as the Athenians discovered
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    when they had to decide how
    to deal with the city of Mytilene.
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    [music continues]
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    In 428 BC, the city of Mytilene
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    rebelled against
    the Athenian empire.
  • 37:37 - 37:40
    The Athenian assembly met
    to decide how to respond.
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    The hardliners
    wanted to execute every man
  • 37:43 - 37:45
    and enslave every woman
    in the city–
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    the moderates just to execute
    the ringleaders.
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    And on the first day of debate,
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    the Athenian assembly
    sided with the hardliners.
  • 37:52 - 37:56
    They even dispatched a trireme to
    Mytilene to carry out those orders.
  • 37:56 - 37:58
    And yet when they met
    on the second day,
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    the Athenian assembly started
    to doubt its own decision.
  • 38:02 - 38:06
    And indeed they went on to reverse
    it, sending a second trireme
  • 38:06 - 38:07
    which got there just in time.
  • 38:07 - 38:11
    Now these events not only brought
    great relief to the Mytileneans
  • 38:11 - 38:15
    but it also brought home to the
    Athenians the critical importance
  • 38:15 - 38:20
    of thinking through properly their
    decisions before taking action.
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    [drum heavy music]
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    Dealing with life and death
    decisions like this
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    had always lain at the heart
    of Athenian drama.
  • 38:29 - 38:33
    And authors like the prize-winning
    Sophocles forced the audience
  • 38:33 - 38:37
    to experience vicariously
    the consequences of sloppy thinking.
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    In 442 BC, Sophocles won yet
    another victory at the City Dionysia
  • 38:42 - 38:44
    with his play Antigone.
  • 38:44 - 38:47
    Now, Sophocles was a man
    intensely involved
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    with the affairs
    of the Athenian state.
  • 38:48 - 38:50
    He had been a general
    and he would go on
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    to become one of
    its closest advisors
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    during its darkest hours
    in future years.
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    And his play Antigone deals
    with exactly this kind of thing:
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    how to debate and argue
    through the difficult
  • 39:01 - 39:04
    and yet critical issues
    that face a city.
  • 39:04 - 39:05
    [pause]
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    And what can happen
    when it all goes terribly wrong.
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    [sad music]
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    The play tells the sad story of
    Oedipus' daughter Princess Antigone.
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    [thunder and lightning]
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    When Antigone buries
    the body of her rebel brother,
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    she is following
    the law of the gods.
  • 39:24 - 39:29
    But the city's law and her uncle,
    King Creon have forbidden it.
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    [quiet piano music]
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    Creon is furious,
    and condemns her to death.
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    [music continues]
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    Creon's son Haemon,
    who is in love with Antigone,
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    urges his father to reconsider.
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    [same music]
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    He argues that "A city is not a city
    if it is the holding of one man."
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    But Creon is stubborn
    and uncompromising.
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    He refuses to listen,
    and refuses to back down.
  • 39:55 - 40:00
    The play ends with Antigone and
    Haemon both committing suicide
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    and with Creon facing the
    displeasure of his people
  • 40:03 - 40:03
    and of the gods.
  • 40:03 - 40:06
    Creon has to face the fact
    that his actions,
  • 40:06 - 40:09
    and his alone,
    have caused this disaster.
  • 40:09 - 40:10
    [sad music]
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    Prof. Hall: All of Greek tragedy stages
    dilemmas that cities under leaders have,
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    where they're faced
    with either very bad luck,
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    or very bad management, or both.
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    Now, at one end of that
    spectrum you've got Oedipus,
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    who has very, very, very bad luck [laughter]
    right? He's doomed before he's even born.
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    How do you react to that?
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    How do you conduct yourself
    in a situation with very bad luck?
  • 40:34 - 40:38
    Right at the other end is the story
    of Oedipus' daughter Antigone,
  • 40:38 - 40:43
    faced with THE most incompetent
    leader in all of Greek literature
  • 40:43 - 40:45
    and that is saying something.
  • 40:45 - 40:50
    Creon simply cannot put a foot
    right, so Sophocles is asking people
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    to think about what
    a good leader might be
  • 40:52 - 40:54
    through showing them
    the worst possible leader
  • 40:54 - 40:56
    and the Athenians loved that
  • 40:56 - 41:00
    so much that Antiquity said
    they made him general in response.
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    Prof. Osborne: Creon is getting pretty
    a bad stick from Edith
  • 41:03 - 41:08
    but there is a real sense in which
    the issue at the center of the play
  • 41:08 - 41:11
    is an issue that arises
    even in Athenian law.
  • 41:11 - 41:14
    In Athenian law,
    if someone is a traitor
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    they are not to be buried.
  • 41:16 - 41:18
    You have to take
    them beyond the borders
  • 41:18 - 41:20
    and you can then bury them outside.
  • 41:20 - 41:23
    If you're a dimark in Athens
  • 41:23 - 41:27
    and there is a dead body in your
    deign you are obliged to bury it.
  • 41:27 - 41:31
    So, immediately that clash of,
  • 41:31 - 41:33
    "Yes, you must bury it
    but no, you can't"
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    arises if the dead body
    happens to be a traitor.
  • 41:35 - 41:38
    So this isn't a non issue,
    this is a real issue
  • 41:38 - 41:43
    and Creon may make a
    complete fist of resolving it
  • 41:43 - 41:46
    but he makes a fist because
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    there are two diametrically
    opposed, justifiable views
  • 41:50 - 41:53
    and you then have to pick
    your way through these.
  • 41:53 - 42:00
    [quiet music]
  • 42:00 - 42:03
    Dr. Scott: Due to his dogged determination
    for others to do
  • 42:03 - 42:08
    exactly what he wants, his inability
    to listen, to compromise,
  • 42:08 - 42:10
    Creon ends up paying
    the ultimate price–
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    the loss of his family
    and his authority.
  • 42:13 - 42:18
    It's a play about listening,
    debate, compromise,
  • 42:18 - 42:20
    what it takes to be a leader.
  • 42:20 - 42:23
    Those are issues which,
    of course, had relevance
  • 42:23 - 42:25
    to the ancient Athenians
    watching the play,
  • 42:25 - 42:29
    but they're also issues that are
    relevant to any society at any time.
  • 42:29 - 42:34
    That's what makes
    Antigone so timeless.
  • 42:34 - 42:37
    [quiet string music]
  • 42:37 - 42:41
    Dr. Wyles: It's got universal appeal
    because it's about someone
  • 42:41 - 42:44
    fighting against the system
    and a system that's wrong.
  • 42:44 - 42:47
    I mean, that's how
    it gets picked up now
  • 42:47 - 42:51
    and that's, that's what really appeals to
    modern audiences, I think, about it.
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    Dr. Scott: A play like Antigone,
  • 42:52 - 42:55
    what kind of resonance
    does that have for us today?
  • 42:55 - 42:59
    Dr. Wyles: Thinking about this
    adaptation that Jean Anouilh
  • 42:59 - 43:05
    produced in 1944 in France while it
    was being occupied by Nazis.
  • 43:05 - 43:08
    That's a real example of
    where you've got this play
  • 43:08 - 43:14
    which is really taken on and
    championed by the Resistance.
  • 43:14 - 43:18
    Dr. Scott: How did it ever get
    permission to be performed
  • 43:18 - 43:19
    if it's such a play of resistance?
  • 43:19 - 43:23
    Dr. Wyles: Well, I think that's
    the ambiguity of the play.
  • 43:23 - 43:28
    So, you know, for the occupying force,
    for the Vichy government,
  • 43:28 - 43:30
    actually, you can look
    at this play and think,
  • 43:30 - 43:34
    "This is a play about
    law and imposing law
  • 43:34 - 43:36
    and actually this
    is a silly little girl
  • 43:36 - 43:40
    who breaks that law and, you know,
    she gets what's coming to her."
  • 43:40 - 43:44
    So, it's that ambiguity that allows,
    even in those circumstances,
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    this great play of resistance,
    for some people, to be put on.
  • 43:47 - 43:51
    [transitional music]
  • 43:51 - 43:56
    Dr. Scott: Tragedy was an effective way of
    engaging with the issues
  • 43:56 - 44:00
    that beset the democracy,
    but it was not the only way.
  • 44:00 - 44:02
    There was also comedy.
  • 44:02 - 44:06
    Comedy was irreverent,
    rude and bawdy,
  • 44:06 - 44:10
    and it was also personal,
    targeting real individuals.
  • 44:10 - 44:14
    And just like today, ordinary
    Athenians in the marketplace
  • 44:14 - 44:17
    were deeply suspicious
    of their elected political leaders.
  • 44:17 - 44:18
    [pause]
  • 44:18 - 44:21
    Some people, it seems,
    were just naturally born
  • 44:21 - 44:23
    to successfully navigate
  • 44:23 - 44:25
    the slippery waters
    of Athenian politics.
  • 44:25 - 44:29
    And one of those guys
    was a man called Cleon.
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    [speaking Greek]
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    Now, Cleon was what we would call
    today an opportunistic politician.
  • 44:35 - 44:39
    He would be with the aristocrats
    or he would be spurring
  • 44:39 - 44:41
    on the lowest of the low
    of the Athenian citizenry.
  • 44:41 - 44:46
    And the ancient commentators
    are fairly hard on Cleon.
  • 44:46 - 44:48
    And today we'd probably
    be a bit more balanced,
  • 44:48 - 44:50
    but without a shadow of a doubt
  • 44:50 - 44:53
    he would do whatever it took to
    get whatever he wanted.
  • 44:53 - 44:56
    Naturally, he had his enemies.
  • 44:56 - 44:59
    They accused him of being
    greedy, not just for power,
  • 44:59 - 45:01
    but for fresh-caught tuna,
  • 45:01 - 45:06
    seen back then as a luxury desired
    by the rich and anti-democratic.
  • 45:06 - 45:08
    [city noises]
  • 45:08 - 45:12
    How could the democracy
    keep people like this in check
  • 45:12 - 45:15
    while not killing off
    their energy and enthusiasm
  • 45:15 - 45:17
    that at the end of the day
    benefited the city?
  • 45:17 - 45:20
    Well, one of the ways
    they did it was in the theater,
  • 45:20 - 45:25
    by taking the piss out of them,
    right in their very face.
  • 45:25 - 45:30
    [upbeat, quirky music]
  • 45:30 - 45:33
    Comedies, while performed
    at the Dionysia Festival,
  • 45:33 - 45:35
    also had their own, smaller festival.
  • 45:35 - 45:37
    It was called the Lenaia.
  • 45:37 - 45:39
    It took place early in January,
  • 45:39 - 45:42
    long before the season
    for sailing started,
  • 45:42 - 45:44
    so there were no foreigners present.
  • 45:44 - 45:47
    This meant that comic writers
    could really let rip
  • 45:47 - 45:48
    without letting the city down.
  • 45:48 - 45:49
    [music continues]
  • 45:49 - 45:52
    Dr. Wyles: What you have is
    really lively plays,
  • 45:52 - 45:55
    very outrageous plays, actually, sometimes,
  • 45:55 - 45:58
    but they are politically involved.
  • 45:58 - 46:03
    The settings can be, you know, amazing in
    the real sense, [Scott: Yep] incredible.
  • 46:03 - 46:06
    You have comedies that
    go to the underworld,
  • 46:06 - 46:07
    they go to hell,
  • 46:07 - 46:10
    and that's where you get
    these animal choruses like frogs.
  • 46:10 - 46:14
    This is a frog that was used
  • 46:14 - 46:18
    in the King's College Greek play.
  • 46:18 - 46:21
    I mean animal choruses are
    quite common in comedy.
  • 46:21 - 46:23
    You've got, for example,
    the chorus here...
  • 46:23 - 46:24
    [pause]
  • 46:24 - 46:28
    These guys performing and the
    songs that they get to sing,
  • 46:28 - 46:31
    I mean, this is a
    great source of comedy.
  • 46:31 - 46:36
    Dr. Scott: What kind of level of biting
    satire are we talking about here
  • 46:36 - 46:37
    in ancient comedy?
  • 46:37 - 46:38
    Dr. Wyles: It's extremely personal,
  • 46:38 - 46:41
    there's insults really
    of quite an infantile nature.
  • 46:41 - 46:46
    You have plays which actually put
    politicians as one of the characters,
  • 46:46 - 46:48
    very thinly disguised,
  • 46:48 - 46:51
    but the-they'll be the
    leading politicians of the day.
  • 46:51 - 46:55
    Their policies will be clear, the
    way they speak might be parodied,
  • 46:55 - 47:00
    even the mask can reflect
    characters from Athenian society.
  • 47:00 - 47:01
    [fun music]
  • 47:01 - 47:03
    Dr. Scott: This was the sort of thing
    that lay in store
  • 47:03 - 47:06
    for ambitious politicians
    like Cleon.
  • 47:06 - 47:07
    [pause]
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    And the man who was
    the real expert at this
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    was a comic playwright
    called Aristophanes.
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    And for Aristophanes and Cleon,
    it was a grudge match –
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    they even came
    from the same village.
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    [playful music]
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    In 425 BC, Aristophanes
    wrote a play called The Knights.
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    It portrays Cleon
    as a cunning servant
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    working for an old man called Demos.
  • 47:34 - 47:39
    Demos represents the people,
    and as his crafty servant,
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    Cleon misuses his position
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    for the purposes of
    extortion and corruption.
  • 47:44 - 47:47
    Yet, in the end, it is Demos
    who has the last laugh.
  • 47:47 - 47:52
    Cleon's corrupt ways are
    exposed, he loses his position
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    and he is reduced
    to selling sausages
  • 47:54 - 47:57
    outside the Athens city gates.
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    Aristophanes didn't
    pull any punches–
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    this play brings Cleon
    right back down to earth.
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    And, of course, the politicians,
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    about whom the jokes
    were being made,
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    were right here, visible
    to all in the audience.
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    So it's like having
    one of our shows,
  • 48:11 - 48:14
    The Daily Show in the States
    or Have I Got News For You here,
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    being played out in
    an important civic space
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    –the Capitol or
    the House of Commons–
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    with the people they're
    taking the piss out of
  • 48:21 - 48:23
    sitting right here in the audience,
  • 48:23 - 48:24
    having to take it
    in front of everyone.
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    The Greeks even had a word
    for this,
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    they called these people,
    the "komedoumenoi",
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    those made fun of in comedy.
  • 48:31 - 48:34
    And this isn't just
    some sort of sideshow.
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    This, many ancient commentators saw,
  • 48:37 - 48:40
    as the hallmark of
    ancient Athenian democracy
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    and of freedom and free speech.
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    [mysterious music]
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    The laughter didn't
    stop Cleon's career.
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    Despite his slippery reputation,
    he was elected again and again.
  • 48:51 - 48:55
    But the effect of comedy
    was more subtle than that.
  • 48:55 - 48:59
    What it did do, was police
    the boundaries of behavior,
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    skewer pretensions and remind
    those in positions of power
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    of their responsibilities and of
    the limits of their ambitions.
  • 49:06 - 49:09
    It's a kind of satire
    that we can still see at work
  • 49:09 - 49:11
    in our own democracy today.
  • 49:11 - 49:16
    By the time of Cleon, this
    experiment in Athenian democracy
  • 49:16 - 49:18
    was heading towards its centenary.
  • 49:18 - 49:21
    And in that time it had seen it
    all, from fighting for survival,
  • 49:21 - 49:25
    to cultural supremacy,
    to empire, to wealth.
  • 49:25 - 49:29
    And it was, still, at war,
    not now with Persia
  • 49:29 - 49:34
    but with Greece's greatest
    fighting force: the Spartans.
  • 49:34 - 49:35
    [pause]
  • 49:35 - 49:38
    And desperate times called
    for desperate measures.
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    [ominous music]
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    The war between Sparta
    and Athens started in 431 BC
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    and lasted for decades.
  • 49:48 - 49:50
    It was a fight to the death.
  • 49:50 - 49:53
    Sparta ruled by land,
    Athens ruled at sea.
  • 49:54 - 49:55
    But there was one island
  • 49:55 - 49:58
    that had never submitted
    to Athenian domination
  • 49:58 - 50:01
    and tried instead
    to remain neutral:
  • 50:01 - 50:04
    the small island of Melos.
  • 50:04 - 50:05
    [pause]
  • 50:05 - 50:09
    In 416 BC, the Athenian
    democrats had had enough;
  • 50:09 - 50:12
    it was time for
    the Melians to submit.
  • 50:13 - 50:17
    So the Athenians sent their
    fleet to enforce their demands.
  • 50:17 - 50:18
    [pause, waves]
  • 50:18 - 50:21
    Now, according to Thucydides,
    the contemporary Athenian historian,
  • 50:21 - 50:23
    the Athenians sent in
    not just their fleet
  • 50:23 - 50:26
    but also some diplomats
    to put the case.
  • 50:26 - 50:30
    The case was very simple,
    it was this– join us or die.
  • 50:30 - 50:31
    [pause]
  • 50:31 - 50:34
    But what happened next,
    according to Thucydides,
  • 50:34 - 50:37
    was an extraordinary debate
    between the two sides.
  • 50:37 - 50:41
    "These envoys the Melians did not
    bring before the popular assembly,
  • 50:41 - 50:43
    but bade them tell in
    the presence of the magistrates
  • 50:43 - 50:45
    and the few what
    they had come for."
  • 50:45 - 50:48
    The envoys gave the Melians
    an ultimatum:
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    surrender and pay tribute
    to Athens, or be destroyed.
  • 50:52 - 50:56
    The Melians argued that they were
    a neutral city, not an enemy.
  • 50:56 - 51:00
    And that it would be shameful and
    cowardly to submit without a fight.
  • 51:00 - 51:02
    But the Athenians were unmoved.
  • 51:02 - 51:06
    They countered that if they didn't
    extract surrender from Melos,
  • 51:06 - 51:08
    the empire would look weak.
  • 51:08 - 51:12
    They argued that the strong have
    the right to exert their authority.
  • 51:12 - 51:13
    [distant string music]
  • 51:13 - 51:15
    This is a classic example
  • 51:15 - 51:17
    of what we call in Greek
    an "agon" –a debate.
  • 51:17 - 51:20
    You could have seen it in
    the philosophical lecture hall,
  • 51:20 - 51:22
    or in the political assembly,
    or in the law courts,
  • 51:22 - 51:24
    or indeed on the stage
    in the theater.
  • 51:24 - 51:27
    And it's summed up... Well, it's
    summed up rather well, actually,
  • 51:27 - 51:30
    by an enthusiastic student who seems
    to have had this copy before me.
  • 51:30 - 51:33
    And who has written rather pithily
    in the margin, "Might is right".
  • 51:33 - 51:36
    And that was the Athenian argument.
  • 51:36 - 51:38
    The strong do as they can.
  • 51:38 - 51:41
    The weak suffer what they must.
  • 51:41 - 51:43
    And that's exactly what happened.
  • 51:43 - 51:45
    The Athenians invaded
    the island of Melos,
  • 51:45 - 51:47
    they executed all the men,
  • 51:47 - 51:49
    they enslaved all the women
    and the children,
  • 51:49 - 51:51
    and they established
    an Athenian colony there.
  • 51:51 - 51:52
    [pause]
  • 51:52 - 51:57
    And yet, just the very next year,
    in the Theatre of Dionysus,
  • 51:57 - 51:59
    in the centre of Athens,
  • 51:59 - 52:02
    Euripides, the "enfant
    terrible" of Athenian drama,
  • 52:02 - 52:05
    staged a play called Trojan Women.
  • 52:05 - 52:08
    Its subject matter was what
    happened to the women at Troy
  • 52:08 - 52:13
    after the Greeks had besieged,
    invaded, and destroyed the city.
  • 52:13 - 52:14
    [pause]
  • 52:14 - 52:18
    So the Athenians
    sat down to watch a play
  • 52:18 - 52:20
    which laid before them on the stage
  • 52:20 - 52:24
    the tragic reality
    of what they had done,
  • 52:24 - 52:27
    just the year before,
    to the island of Melos.
  • 52:27 - 52:31
    [booming]
  • 52:31 - 52:35
    The play is set in the aftermath
    of the legendary siege of Troy.
  • 52:35 - 52:37
    [pause, booming]
  • 52:37 - 52:39
    The city has fallen,
    all the Trojan men are dead,
  • 52:39 - 52:41
    and the surviving Trojan women,
  • 52:41 - 52:45
    who make up the chorus in the play,
    are to be sold into slavery.
  • 52:45 - 52:48
    But for Princess Andromache,
    there's worse–
  • 52:48 - 52:51
    her son is to be taken
    from her and slaughtered.
  • 52:51 - 52:52
    [pause]
  • 52:52 - 52:57
    When she argues, the messenger tells
    her to be brave –"might is right".
  • 52:57 - 53:01
    [Princess Andromache wails]
  • 53:01 - 53:05
    [all women scream]
  • 53:05 - 53:07
    Man: Hush!
  • 53:07 - 53:08
    [the women quiet]
  • 53:08 - 53:13
    [Princess Andromache pants]
  • 53:13 - 53:16
    Messenger: If you say words that
    make the army angry...
  • 53:16 - 53:17
    [she shudders]
  • 53:17 - 53:19
    the child will have no burial...
  • 53:19 - 53:21
    [breathing heavily]
  • 53:21 - 53:22
    and without pity...
  • 53:22 - 53:24
    [shuddering]
  • 53:24 - 53:27
    so bear your fate as best you can.
  • 53:27 - 53:28
    [still breathing heavily]
  • 53:28 - 53:32
    Then you need not leave him
    dead without a grave...
  • 53:32 - 53:34
    [shallow breathing]
  • 53:34 - 53:35
    and you will find
    the Greeks...
  • 53:35 - 53:37
    [shuddering]
  • 53:37 - 53:38
    more kind.
  • 53:38 - 53:40
    [gravel crunching as he stands]
  • 53:40 - 53:42
    [shuffling]
  • 53:42 - 53:47
    Dr. Scott: Trojan Women may well have spoken
    to Athenian actions on Melos,
  • 53:47 - 53:49
    but Euripides was also crucially
  • 53:49 - 53:52
    sending a broader message
    about the disillusionment
  • 53:52 - 53:54
    that was taking hold in Greece
  • 53:54 - 53:56
    after years of
    relentless, savage war
  • 53:56 - 53:58
    and the terrible impact
  • 53:58 - 54:01
    that such conflict has on
    all members of society.
  • 54:01 - 54:04
    [boom, fades]
  • 54:04 - 54:09
    Prof. Cartledge: Why should WE think that
    what the Athenians did to the Melians
  • 54:09 - 54:12
    would have generated
    such terrific outrage
  • 54:12 - 54:14
    when the Spartans had done something
  • 54:14 - 54:20
    very similar to the people of Hisiai just a few
    years earlier? [overlapping: Exactly. Exactly.]
  • 54:20 - 54:21
    I mean that's purely historically.
  • 54:21 - 54:24
    On the other hand,
    the coincidence of date means,
  • 54:24 - 54:27
    it seems to me, that as
    Euripides is writing this,
  • 54:27 - 54:31
    what is the big campaign that
    the Athenians are involved in
  • 54:31 - 54:35
    that is going to involve
    women as slaves of war?
  • 54:35 - 54:38
    Well, it is the Mel- there is
    no other campaign going on
  • 54:38 - 54:43
    as Euripides is writing
    it in the winter of 416-5,
  • 54:43 - 54:48
    but he could have thought it
    at any time, that's the thing.
  • 54:48 - 54:54
    Prof. Hall: By 416/415, I think Euripides
    really has seen that war
  • 54:54 - 54:56
    as a way of life brings
    nothing but misery
  • 54:56 - 54:58
    to both victors and vanquished.
  • 54:58 - 55:00
    Prof. Osborne: And from that point of
    view, if you focus on Melos,
  • 55:00 - 55:01
    you actually miss that point.
  • 55:01 - 55:03
    Prof Hall: Exactly.
  • 55:03 - 55:04
    Prof. Osborne: The more you think
    this is just a sort of,
  • 55:04 - 55:06
    "Oh, there's been a terrible
    atrocity..."
  • 55:06 - 55:07
    [other professors agree]
  • 55:07 - 55:09
    Prof. Osborne: ...the more you miss
  • 55:09 - 55:13
    that this is about the fact that
    war is irrational and terrible.
  • 55:13 - 55:17
    Prof. Hall: Euripides is presenting
    a very –a, a, view of all the Greeks
  • 55:17 - 55:19
    as having barbarized themselves
  • 55:19 - 55:21
    during the course of
    the Peloponnesian War.
  • 55:21 - 55:23
    [dramatic music]
  • 55:23 - 55:25
    Dr. Scott: Euripides was not the only one
  • 55:25 - 55:28
    to despair at the state
    of affairs in Greece,
  • 55:28 - 55:30
    or criticize Athenian behavior.
  • 55:30 - 55:34
    Many in Greece now felt that
    Athens was guilty of hubris,
  • 55:34 - 55:36
    of over-reaching pride.
  • 55:36 - 55:39
    And anyone who had ever
    seen a Greek tragedy
  • 55:39 - 55:42
    would have been aware
    of what could happen next.
  • 55:42 - 55:43
    [quiet music]
  • 55:43 - 55:45
    Here at Rhamnous in the 6th century,
  • 55:45 - 55:47
    the people had built a temple
  • 55:47 - 55:51
    to the Greek goddess responsible for
    punishing those guilty of hubris.
  • 55:51 - 55:56
    She was called Nemesis, a name that
    comes from the Greek verb "nemein",
  • 55:56 - 55:58
    meaning to give what is due.
  • 55:58 - 56:00
    [ominous music]
  • 56:00 - 56:03
    Now, after the Melian atrocity,
  • 56:03 - 56:06
    it seemed like Athenian
    ambition and pride
  • 56:06 - 56:08
    was beginning to over-reach itself.
  • 56:08 - 56:10
    They not only had enemies abroad,
  • 56:10 - 56:13
    they had an increasing number
    of enemies in Greece,
  • 56:14 - 56:16
    and indeed an increasing number
    of enemies at home as well,
  • 56:16 - 56:18
    who were beginning
    to think of democracy
  • 56:18 - 56:22
    as perhaps the immoral
    inversion of the righteous order.
  • 56:22 - 56:24
    The question was,
  • 56:24 - 56:28
    as the glorious Golden Age of
    the 5th century drew to a close,
  • 56:28 - 56:31
    how would theater and democracy,
  • 56:31 - 56:34
    which had so spectacularly
    grown up together,
  • 56:34 - 56:39
    survive in a much harsher
    and more difficult world?
  • 56:39 - 56:45
    [nature, dramatic music]
  • 56:45 - 56:49
    Although the future of Athens
    now looked uncertain,
  • 56:49 - 56:52
    the past century had
    been a spectacular era,
  • 56:52 - 56:57
    Athens had invented and pioneered
    an array of things
  • 56:57 - 57:00
    which underpin our own civilization.
  • 57:00 - 57:03
    From classical sculpture
    and architecture
  • 57:03 - 57:06
    to new directions
    in philosophy and history.
  • 57:06 - 57:07
    [music swells]
  • 57:07 - 57:10
    But for me,
    out of all those legacies,
  • 57:10 - 57:13
    two stand out as the most
    extraordinary...
  • 57:13 - 57:16
    First, democracy:
  • 57:16 - 57:20
    Athens created the first
    democratic constitution in history,
  • 57:20 - 57:23
    which has become a beacon
    across the centuries.
  • 57:23 - 57:24
    [music]
  • 57:24 - 57:27
    And second: at the very same time,
  • 57:27 - 57:31
    Athens invented a powerful
    and incisive new art form
  • 57:31 - 57:35
    –theater– an innovation
    without which, perhaps,
  • 57:35 - 57:37
    that democracy might
    never have survived.
  • 57:37 - 57:38
    [pause]
  • 57:38 - 57:44
    Drama comes from the Greek word,
    "dram": to do, to act, to perform.
  • 57:44 - 57:47
    And if there is one thing
    that has become abundantly clear
  • 57:47 - 57:50
    it's that theater was
    never just mere entertainment,
  • 57:50 - 57:51
    never a passive spectator.
  • 57:51 - 57:55
    It was a performer in Athens'
    story in the ancient world.
  • 57:55 - 58:02
    From tragedy making our most
    important beliefs uncomfortable,
  • 58:02 - 58:05
    to comedy questioning
    and policing citizenship,
  • 58:05 - 58:06
    and keeping people in check.
  • 58:06 - 58:12
    Theatre was an institution that
    plugged into religious, civic,
  • 58:12 - 58:15
    political, and military aspects
    of ancient Athenian society.
  • 58:15 - 58:20
    It was an extraordinary,
    and an extraordinarily uncomfortable,
  • 58:20 - 58:24
    risky, and yet essential
    part of Athenian life.
  • 58:24 - 58:26
    Join the Open University
    as we explore
  • 58:26 - 58:30
    the connections between Greek
    theatre and modern-day democracy.
  • 58:30 - 58:32
    Go to bbc.co.uk/ancientgreece
  • 58:32 - 58:36
    and follow the links to the Open
    University's free-learning website.
  • 58:36 - 58:39
    [dramatic end music]
  • 58:39 - 58:43
    Female voice over: Peter and Dan Snow
    explore another 20th century battlefield
  • 58:43 - 58:47
    in just a moment's time here on BBC Four
    this evening, and then a chance to re-meet
  • 58:47 - 58:54
    the ancestors: families of the Stone Age
    in stories from the dark earth at eleven.
  • 58:54 - 58:54
    Stay with us.
  • 58:54 - 58:57
    [dramatic end music resumes,
    continues to end]
  • 58:57 - 59:00
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