How close are we to uploading our minds? - Michael S.A. Graziano
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0:07 - 0:10Imagine a future where nobody dies—
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0:10 - 0:14instead, our minds are uploaded
to a digital world. -
0:14 - 0:18They might live on in a realistic,
simulated environment with avatar bodies, -
0:18 - 0:23and could still call in and contribute
to the biological world. -
0:23 - 0:26Mind uploading has powerful appeal—
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0:26 - 0:32but what would it actually take to scan a
person’s brain and upload their mind? -
0:32 - 0:36The main challenges are scanning a brain
in enough detail to capture the mind -
0:36 - 0:41and perfectly recreating
that detail artificially. -
0:41 - 0:43But first, we have to know what to scan.
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0:43 - 0:47The human brain contains
about 86 billion neurons, -
0:47 - 0:50connected by at least a
hundred trillion synapses. -
0:50 - 0:53The pattern of connectivity
among the brain’s neurons, -
0:53 - 0:58that is, all of the neurons and
all their connections to each other, -
0:58 - 1:00is called the connectome.
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1:00 - 1:02We haven’t yet mapped
the connectome, -
1:02 - 1:05and there’s also a lot more
to neural signaling. -
1:05 - 1:09There are hundreds, possibly thousands
of different kinds of connections, -
1:09 - 1:10or synapses.
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1:10 - 1:13Each functions in a slightly
different way. -
1:13 - 1:15Some work faster, some slower.
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1:15 - 1:19Some grow or shrink rapidly in
the process of learning; -
1:19 - 1:21some are more stable over time.
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1:21 - 1:26And beyond the trillions of precise,
1-to-1 connections between neurons, -
1:26 - 1:29some neurons also spray out
neurotransmitters -
1:29 - 1:32that affect many other neurons at once.
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1:32 - 1:34All of these different kinds of
interactions -
1:34 - 1:38would need to be mapped in order to
copy a person’s mind. -
1:38 - 1:41There are also a lot of influences on
neural signaling -
1:41 - 1:44that are poorly understood
or undiscovered. -
1:44 - 1:46To name just one example,
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1:46 - 1:48patterns of activity between neurons
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1:48 - 1:52are likely influenced by a type
of cell called glia. -
1:52 - 1:56Glia surround neurons and,
according to some scientists, -
1:56 - 2:00may even outnumber them
by as many as ten to one. -
2:00 - 2:03Glia were once thought to be purely
for structural support, -
2:03 - 2:06and their functions are still
poorly understood, -
2:06 - 2:09but at least some of them can generate
their own signals -
2:09 - 2:12that influence information processing.
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2:12 - 2:15Our understanding of the brain isn’t good
enough to determine -
2:15 - 2:18what we’d need to scan in order
to replicate the mind, -
2:18 - 2:21but assuming our knowledge does
advance to that point, -
2:21 - 2:22how would we scan it?
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2:22 - 2:26Currently, we can accurately scan a living
human brain -
2:26 - 2:28with resolutions of about half a
millimeter -
2:28 - 2:32using our best non-invasive
scanning method, MRI. -
2:32 - 2:38To detect a synapse, we’ll need to scan
at a resolution of about a micron— -
2:38 - 2:40a thousandth of a millimeter.
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2:40 - 2:45To distinguish the kind of synapse and
precisely how strong each synapse is, -
2:45 - 2:47we’ll need even better resolution.
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2:47 - 2:50MRI depends on powerful magnetic fields.
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2:50 - 2:52Scanning at the resolution required
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2:52 - 2:55to determine the details of
individual synapses -
2:55 - 3:00would requires a field strength high
enough to cook a person’s tissues. -
3:00 - 3:02So this kind of leap in resolution
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3:02 - 3:05would require fundamentally
new scanning technology. -
3:05 - 3:10It would be more feasible to scan a dead
brain using an electron microscope, -
3:10 - 3:13but even that technology is nowhere
near good enough– -
3:13 - 3:17and requires killing the subject first.
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3:17 - 3:21Assuming we eventually understand the
brain well enough to know what to scan -
3:21 - 3:24and develop the technology to safely
scan at that resolution, -
3:24 - 3:29the next challenge would be to recreate
that information digitally. -
3:29 - 3:33The main obstacles to doing so are
computing power and storage space, -
3:33 - 3:36both of which are improving every year.
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3:36 - 3:40We’re actually much closer to attaining
this technological capacity -
3:40 - 3:44than we are to understanding or scanning
our own minds. -
3:44 - 3:48Artificial neural networks already run
our internet search engines, -
3:48 - 3:52digital assistants, self-driving cars,
Wall Street trading algorithms, -
3:52 - 3:54and smart phones.
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3:54 - 3:58Nobody has yet built an artificial network
with 86 billion neurons, -
3:58 - 4:00but as computing technology improves,
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4:00 - 4:05it may be possible to keep track
of such massive data sets. -
4:05 - 4:08At every step in the scanning and
uploading process, -
4:08 - 4:13we’d have to be certain we were capturing
all the necessary information accurately— -
4:13 - 4:18or there’s no telling what ruined
version of a mind might emerge. -
4:18 - 4:21While mind uploading is
theoretically possible, -
4:21 - 4:23we’re likely hundreds of years away
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4:23 - 4:26from the technology
and scientific understanding -
4:26 - 4:27that would make it a reality.
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4:27 - 4:32And that reality would come with ethical
and philosophical considerations: -
4:32 - 4:34who would have access to mind uploading?
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4:34 - 4:37What rights would be accorded to
uploaded minds? -
4:37 - 4:40How could this technology be abused?
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4:40 - 4:42Even if we can eventually upload
our minds, -
4:42 - 4:46whether we should remains
an open question.
- Title:
- How close are we to uploading our minds? - Michael S.A. Graziano
- Speaker:
- Michael S.A. Graziano
- Description:
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View full lesson: https://ed.ted.com/lessons/how-close-are-we-to-uploading-our-minds-michael-s-a-graziano
Imagine a future where nobody dies— instead, our minds are uploaded to a digital world. There they could live on in a realistic, simulated environment with avatar bodies, calling in and contributing to the biological world. Mind-uploading has powerful appeal— but what would it actually take to scan a person’s brain and upload their mind? Michael S. A. Graziano explores the challenges.
Lesson by Michael S. A. Graziano, directed by Lobster Studio.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TED-Ed
- Duration:
- 04:46
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