187th Knowledge Seekers Workshop, Thursday, August 31, 2017

The Keshe Foundation,

an independent, non-profit,
non-religious,

space-based organization

founded by nuclear engineer

Mehran Tavakoli Keshe

is introducing to humanity

the Science of the Universe,

Plasma Science

Keshe Foundation develops

universal knowledge
and space technologies

that provide solutions
to major global problems,

revolutionizing

Agriculture, Health, Energy,
Transportation, Materials, and more.

The application
of Plasma Science in the form

of specially developed Plasma reactors
and other devices,

will give humanity the real freedom
to travel in deep space.

Plasma Science exists
throughout the whole Universe.

It is here and it belongs to you.

Our knowledge, research and development
regarding the Plasma structure

has progressed to the point of enabling
everyone to participate in the process.

Become a creator and understand
the work of the Universe

for the good of humankind on this planet,
as well as in space!

The use of MaGravs, Nanomaterials,
GANS, Liquid Plasma, Field Plasma

and other Plasma technologies

have come as a new dawn
for humanity to progress

and work in harmony with the Universe.

Conventional technology
applications are wasteful,

damaging and cause pollution
to the planet and all living beings.

aspects
that touch the lives of all beings.

Plasma is defined by the foundation
as an entire content of Fields

which accumulate
and create matter

and it is NOT defined
by its physical characteristics

like ionization or temperature.

Also, with Plasma science,

we understand how we can convert
matter back to the Fields.

Quoted from Mr Keshe,

“MaGrav stands for Magnetic-Gravitational,
which means Plasma absorbs or gives.

And every Plasma has the both,
it has give and it has take…

And when they can’t find the balance
they distance themselves

until they find the balance
they can give to the others

that they can receive what
they want to receive and give further.”

Certain atoms and molecules release and
absorb Magnetic or Gravitational Fields.

Released Fields are available
to be absorbed by other objects.

The Keshe Foundation has developed a way
to gather these free flowing Fields

from the environment within
a resourceful and beneficial

new state of transitional matter
which M.T. Keshe named GANS.

The first step
of the process of the formation

of various basic types of GANS,
is Nano-coating metals.

This is carried out
either chemically by etching

(steam coating with Sodium Hydroxide)

or thermally by heating
(Fire Coating by gas burner).

During either coating process,

gaps between the outermost
layers of atoms are created.

The residual coating is often
referred to as nano-coating,

defined by the structured layers
of Nanomaterial,

which build up during
the creation process of the coating.

Nano-coated metal in interaction
with other various metal plates,

in a salt water solution,
creates MaGrav Fields.

These Fields then attract available
elements to form a specific GANS,

which collects and settles
at the bottom of the container.

This GANS is formed from independent
energized molecules (like little suns)

that can be used
in various applications.

(RC) Welcome everyone to the
187th Knowledge Seekers Workshop

for Thursday, August 31st 2017

and once again we're fortunate
to have Mr Keshe

of the Keshe Foundation Spaceship Institute
available to speak with us

at least on the first part of this Workshop
and I think Mr Keshe is ready to go here.

Hello Mr Keshe?

(MK) Yes good morning,
good day to you as usual,

whenever, wherever you listen to these
Knowledge Seekers line of teaching .

As we set out, from the beginning
to teach about the Space technology

we knew that, once we go into
the phase of Spaceship Program,

it is important that we learn
more and more about ourselves,

about the structure
of human body in the Space,

about how we will behave in the Space
and what can we take with us,

and what cannot be taken.

In the past few months, as we keep
on going deeper and deeper,

we understand more and more
about the reality of Creation.

Part of this is, in a way,
to understand our own structure

and partly, it's to understand
how this structure will react

and show how it manifest itself
in different dimensions in the Universe

On the other hand,
the other part is trying to educate man

in the new ethos of work of
the Human soul.

Which means now that we understand
we are responsible for whatever we do

there is no need to be scared,
or be frightened of

whatever imaginary of punishment ,
now we know

the Soul is the Creator of Physicality
and the Physicality

is responsible for the
elevation of his own Soul.

In so many ways, if we can explain it,
is that Man up to now,

always do, how to convert Matters
into different energies.

We made electric energy,
we made all sorts of powers

we burned gases to create energy,
we burned everything else possible.

We use chemical effects
to create energy.

But the beauty with the new technology,
as we said before.

Is now, for the first time,
understanding the operation of the Soul,

understanding the operation
of the reactors in the field transfer.

For the first time
in the history of Man,

Man now is learning how to
transfer energy into Matter.

How? This has been the secret,
the biggest secret in the Creation.

How can we change ?

Do what the Universe has been,
doing it naturally, to learn a ways,

to be able to imitate
and develop technologies,

full understanding of conversion
of energy into the Matter.

Or as we say,
"Energy within the soul of the man,

converting itself to the Physicality
of existence of the body of the Man."

Now, we understand
the whole process.

Now, we have seen
how materials have changed,

how we have changed and
brought in creating

Matters into Nano and then into GANS,
and then into the Fields.

And then putting interaction
of the Fields with each other

producing different matters from
what we call, the 'Space of the Universe'.

This is the beauty
of the new technology

independence from
any Matter-State

In a way be free, to understand to be
able to transfer energies of the Universe,

into any Matter, in any point anywhere,
which Man needs.

In a way, if you look at it in
a simple way, if it could be explained

it's very much like we have a dam,
we thrown water over it,

we have turbines
which create energy.

Now we're doing the reverse

we're putting energy the turbine reverse
and we create a water, which is in the dam.

Now we understand that much

We have progressed in the knowledge
in past 3 to 5 years, to be able to cover

what man tried to cover for millions
of years in one space of meantime.

Now the process is, what happened
when we create the Soul ?

what happened when we create this free space
of energy of different strength

we call it the 'Soul', the 'Sun',
the 'center' in the central line of the Galaxy

any name you like to
choose for the same thing.

It's what happens to it a the end?

Is it immortal?

Or dose it choose its own dimension,
to become immortal at the point?

Or how does it demise?

Where does it end ?

Is there an end
to the Soul of the Man?

Or does the Soul decides to convert itself to
another Field or another energy ?

What and where and how
the end comes for a dimension,

in what we created
as a non tangible entity

what we call the 'Soul',
the 'central line' or the 'Principal Matter'.

It's all the same, but we have
chosen different names

as we progress in the knowledge of Man
in Science of the Creation.

But how far can we go, to what extent
are we prepared, to be free

to understand unconditionally
the Truth about the Creation?

Does the Soul die ?

What happened to it,
how does the Soul decides its demise ?

In so many ways,
the Soul do die.

In so many ways,
Galaxies do end.

In so many ways,
the Suns do finish.

But what? Consider
what happens to the Soul of the Man?

How does it,
choose its ends ?

How does it,
choose to merge ?

And in a way not to completely dismantle itself
it links up in the strength

where it feels it'll be guaranteed part of
its survival to merge with another entity,

to become part
of another entity.

This is how the Soul come to an end,
as singularity.

But, in collaboration in interaction
they become part of another.

In reality, Souls once created,
which is a collection of magnetic fields,

never stay the same, they just
convert from one to another

to guarantee the survival
of the compactness of the energies

which is they created,
they called in themselves.

The Plasma of live, the essence
of the energy of the Creation.

But how far can we accept this ?

What is this?

Limited to the intelligence of Man
or acceptance of the Truth

about what happens
to the Soul of the Man ?

It's easy to understand,
but on the other hand,

if we put collective obedience
of the Souls together

is what we have shown,
the creation of Universal Councils

the creation of the Earth Councils,
these are all connected.

In the time to come
many of you will realize

the collective Soul,

the collective soul of the individuals
in Universal Council,

the collective soul of the
individuals in the Earth Council

becomes One Soul.

In fact, if you look at it,
it's like creation of

a child in the womb
of the mother

The womb
is the Planet Earth.

But the...
at the inception,

the Totality of the different souls
of the members of the Councils

give rise to soul of singularity,
to One entity, to One being

This is the beauty of it

in so many ways, we can come,
we can understand to one point

that now we, as collective,
as members of the lives on this Planet

We have, we decided, to bring
a singularity to Totality of the Souls

This is what the end will be.

So, what we understand
is very simple.

To what extend Man is prepared
to understand about the truth about himself.

And how he decides
to bring Unity amongst the Souls.

Got to realize one thing, if you remember,
it started with one egg, and one sperm,

and the Totality
became the Soul of the Man.

The interaction between the Universal Council
and the Earth Council,

is like the Soul,
the Creator of the Soul of this Planet.

This is why we set it up this way.

It has the Physicality of the Earth,
which is the Earth Council,

and it has the dimension of this Ether,
or it's Earth Atmospheric condition,

which is
the language of the Soul.

Which has nothing to do
with the Physicality of the Entity.

So, in a long term,
but it'll come to be understood,

is that the Totality of the interaction
of the members of the Universal Council,

and the Earth Council,
will lead to Unify Soul of the Planet.

Which means One Nation,
One Planet.

And, as of teachings from today,
you will realize,

we are extending the knowledge.

It is for the members of the Universal Council
and the Earth Council,

to come forward,
and explain their understanding,

and how they see the Unification
of this, Nations become one,

and how we make this Planet
as One Nation.

As I explained to the members of the Councils
in the public teaching of last week,

or earlier this week, both Councils
and the Men and the Humanity,

has to be aware of very,
very, very dangerous line,

the dangerous line is,
by Creating the Universal Council,

by Creating the Earth Council,
by giving birth to One Nation, One Planet,

the Mankind has to be aware that we
do not change the boarders of the Nations,

to the boarders of languages, that
we start a new division in the Humanity.

We have to understand
the language has been chosen

for the understanding of the Soul
of the Totality of the Entities on this Planet,

and not just the Man.

Do the chickens
have their own member in the Council?

Or do the birds
have their member in the Council?

Or do the lions
have their member in the Council?

The Soul of the members of the Council
has to understand the Totality

of the ?maze?
of the Souls of this Planet.

That's why we have chosen the
Universal Council and the Earth Council.

That the merger of the two
leads to One Nation operation.

Which means
guaranteeing the Peace.

So, when we understand more,
we need to understand,

in fact, what these people think
and what is behind the line of thinking,

that they envisage, that the Universal Council
and the Earth Council has to be,

which in collectively is you,
every individual one of us,

is a member of the Council.

We connect to it through our wishes,
we connect to them through our needs.

For this reason, as of this week,
we start giving more platform,

to board the Universal Council,
and the Earth Council.

It's their job on a regular basis
to interact,

and understand the need of the Humanity
in writing the charter for Mankind.

In today, I was talking to, communicating with
one of the members of the Earth Council.

And she said,
"How do we define this charter?"

I wrote in a very, very, simple language,
and that is,

"If you want to define the Humanity
and the language

and what has to be the charter
of the Universal Council, Earth Council,

as One Nation One Planet is very simple,
it's to be true Human,

and Lover of all lives,
in every dimension, and strength,

in every point of the Universe,
as one will manifest itself."

Which means we take the dimension
out of this Planet into Universal condition,

which means every Entity on this Planet
is to be Loved, and to be cared for.

Understanding the Loving
is giving.

Then it becomes irrespective of place
dimension and time.

And this is what
we have to understand.

The members of the Universal Council
and the Earth Council

will take most of this morning teachings,
and in the coming weeks.

Because we have to understand,
what is the new generation of Peace,

what it means to follow
the pattern of Peace.

It's not just because as I said
we establish the One Nation, One Planet,

it's finished, it's the beginning,
the structure for financial,

and the structure for commercial,
the structure for the health,

the structure for every need of Man,
now is in the hand of the Councils.

But with a difference, that from now on,
we work through the Soul of the Man,

the Soul of the Planet, to reach
the Physicality outcome we need.

And not the vice versa, as has been
in the religious believes of the past,

by punishment, fear, and always threatening
what's going to be.

From now on, is how much more
I can elevate myself by serving more.

And this is where it is,
it means I don't want to fall behind,

it means I want to be there
before anybody else.

I want to give
as much as possible,

philanthropist does not
have a meaning in your new life.

Being generous by s... by giving from
the Soul, does not make one philanthropist,

but it makes one understanding
the art of life in the Universe.

I give my life for the others to live,
in so many ways if you look,

that if you understand,
and if we ever understood,

what we said,
in the life of Christ bless His name,

is the true meaning of life.

Sacrificing, giving from ones life
that the others may survive, and flourish.

Then it puts the question,
"Was there ever a Christ?"

Or we changed the name of generosity of Man
to love, to the name of Christ?

Then it changes a lot of things
for a lot of us.

It brings a new meaning,

"Do we all want to be, the same
as the one who's been so generous?"

Why do we choose these ways
of elevating our Souls?

Is it because we always have been
frightened of confirming

the existence of the Soul within us?

And this is what is brought,
a lot of changes.

And in time will bring more changes,
because as we understand more,

we come to understand,
we understand very little of the Totality.

My wish is my command
and my wish is Peace on this Planet.

And my wish, is to Unify the Souls
of beings on this Planet and beyond.

And in so many ways,
we have achieved it.

Numbers does not count, the strength
of those who believe the change has come,

and it will now flourish to become
what we call, 'Unifying Peace Force',

as established.

I think it's time to listen
to the members of the Universal Council,

we have allocated this morning
one hour to each Council.

In trying to explain, and then
in trying to bring discussions on the table,

to see how we can move on,
to establish One Nation government.

One Nation group of understanding,
One Nation, One Planet,

that there shall be no more war.

My mission as I've said many times,
is to Create the condition favorable for Peace,

and favorable for the World leaders
to accept that this is the path for Peace.

We have to understand one thing,
all these killings over past centuries,

or thousands of years, has brought nothing
but degradation of the Soul of the Man.

Let us move back on the track,
and let us go the way the whole Universe goes.

Which means
we become the givers unconditional,

and not for looking
what will be the benefit to me from it.

But, how can I benefit the Soul of the others
by sacrificing my own time and Soul,

that by giving more, I receive more
to be able to give more.

I close the session with me this morning here,
because I think it's time to

in a way, see the fruits of
some ten years of teaching,

see the fruit of the
first blossoms of Peace.

Which is established through the establishment
of Universal Council and the Earth Council.

Maybe, maybe now
we start the real process of Peace.

Thank you very much for being here,
we step down,

and we'll leave the two Councils
to explain their position,

and bring you in to become part of it.

Do not forget, every member of this Planet,
every citizen, is a member of the Council.

It's just how much you want to serve
to be heard through your action,

and your Soul, and by shouting
nobody moves.

Thank you very much.

(RC) Okay thank you Mr Keshe.

(MK) Are there any members of the...
Ah, a member of the Universal Council is here.

Would you like to enlighten us?

(MR) Yes ... Ma name is Mosfeq Rashid
and I am... I represent Universal Council

... Bengali language of
the Universal Council

So, as Mr Keshe was talking about ...
Unity to achieve the Peace.

So, this ... would be the basic theme
of what I'm going to talk about.

So, as we have done this ...
One Nation, One Planet, One Race Peace Treaty

As we signed this,
this is the beginning of it.

Beginning of it on the sense that
we have marked the ground that...

and now we have to
proceed along these markings.

So, unity has been with us,
here and there and everywhere

for a long time.

In a way, we weren't able to make it flourish
everywhere on the Planet,

recently we saw hurricane Harvey in Texas
and it was really devastating,

and it is, still is and...
but here we see people who Unify.

And Unifying to help each other,
irrespective of where they live in their life

and what position or wherever
they may be, to help each other.

So, in this... in this strange situation
where we have a lot of suffering

but we see that people
are engaging in Unity.

Now here there is an interesting thing,
this Unity

that we see manifesting in this situation.

Can we have this Unity without
the suffering and why not?

So let's... let's go back
a little bit in History.

I'll talk a little bit about the history
of the part of the world I come from.

About 200 years or so back.
The British invasion took place in India.

Although it's story of my part of the World
and it's the same story in many place,

be it American Indians, be it Africans,
is the same story.

So my story is the story of all of us.

So, as they came ... there was a lot
of suffering and we didn't even,

not know about it until
very recently, that...

what kind of atrocities
that happened.

Particularly, in damaging the educational
and the health care system.

And it's all in the archives of
the British Library right now,

and which has been discovered recently.

But, yes this happened, but even in this
bad situation we have the seeds of Unity.

Now we're... I speak in English language
and others as well

and we communicate
with the rest of the World.

So, I learned to speak English language
because of this British invasion.

And in the same way you see all the yoga,
yoga outfits

in various cities in the West and people
are exercising, getting healthy,

many such things are happening.

We get to know each other more,
but the price was high,

the suffering was enormous and the
people who instigated it, this...

this process are the same people
that are doing it right now.

The British Empire, the Monarchy
and others associated with them.

You don't want... you don't want to go
there, but the Unity was there,

it happened very slowly by efforts of people,
simple people all around us.

Simple people recognizing, "Yes there
are something to learn from Indians."

Simple people that are in India ,
learning yes, English learning,

English language brings
us closer to these people.

People who were controlling this whole
affair did not do it, but its us that did it.

And it is us that,
we will do it now.

In spite of the intention behind it,
Unity was achieved,

So... I'll take another part of history,
this is few hundred years furth... back,

from the time the
British came in India.

This was the... Central Asian attempt
to come to India,

which later on became
the Mogul Empire and...

There was something
different here though,

yes it was done through force,

done through movement of army of military.

But, the intention of those who are invel...

involved in instigating it
were to bring the Islamic culture

and the Hindu culture together.

And, so they came and it, it was...
in my opinion surprisingly successful,

a lot of things came
as a result of it

and the two religions learned
each others strengths.

And, much of the culture or science,
medical practices that followed

comes from this togetherness or
Unity, that came as a result of this effort.

And it was a very prosperous time
for the Indian Sub-Continent

and Indian food you eat is that most people
in the World are familiar with these days,

is a product of this united effort.

And... and this effort not only
brought Islam and Hindu,

the two almost polar-opposite religions
together, each had their strengths together.

But, it became more.

Yes, there were divisions, there were
attempts to create division and still is,

but the undercurrent is flow of this Unity
is still flowing there

and as a result of it created the Vashti
movement or the movement of devotion,

in India and that resulted in many poets
who contributed to this movement or...

Vashti is... devotion
is in a way respect as well.

So, a lot of love poetry,
with respect attached to it,

came out as...
came out as a result of... of it.

So it's... old, new spiritual movement
which, we call now 'Indian',

is in a way product
of this unity.

So, that was ...
successful operation in a way.

Yes, there are things that
came later on to create division

and even now this Hindu-Muslim divide
is being instigated by some.

But the... the main current
is still there and we feel it.

So, not too long ago when
I was visiting Central Asia,

and I was in a taxi and there was
this tax... taxi driver,

who was speaking about the Mogul,
how the Mogul Empire

started in his broken English and he was...
he was proud that,

how it contribute to the Indian culture,
and we both appreciated each other.

Although we could hardly communicate,
but the communication was done.

And in the end when we parted
our company, we had mut... mutual respect.

He... he realised he
and others in that culture know

that they have contributed, to
something very creative in an United way.

And, although few words were
exchanged the message went through.

So, unlike what we see
of the things

that are still stored
in the British Museum,

this positive intention
resides in the hearts

of people in Central Asia
and in India right now.

And... this devotional movement
that created all this poetry

which has Love and
responsibility attached to it.

This is the same thing we see when we
see our militaries, serving for their Nation.

Because, it is the dignity of Human being
and the Love for the Country

that they are trying to defend.

So, so that basic elements of there,

but the way things are done
has to be from a higher intention.

So in a way, the militaries
have the Love and the responsibility.

Now, as On Nation and One Planet, One Race
do we see any border... we don't.

So, the military
still can exercise their Love

and responsibility for
the people that they serve.

Much like all of us,
wherever we are in this Planet.

So... and in a way, every military men
or women have this within them,

as they join their forces.

Now they join forces with
all of us, wherever we are

and we will Unite with this
Love and responsibility in mind.

To carry out the task of bringing us together,
and there is no border to defend,

because what we are really defending is our
Love and responsibility, not the borders.

So, in a way all of us, and here
I would welcome everybody's suggestions

on how we go about doing it.

We can start doing it locally by those,
by sending our wishes

to those who would participate in this,
out sending our wishes.

Yes we can do but through a higher
strength field, we can do it through talking.

We can do it another way, through conduct
and as Keshe Foundation members

and those who are listening to this.

We are... we use languages
and we can use conduct as well

... because conduct is
what we will carry forwards

as we move beyond
the confine of this Planet.

So, this conduct is how we...
We will make various devices

and things using the
Keshe Foundation technology,

it's not only... that yes we
make these with our intention,

but how we give this to other people,
with the Love and responsibility.

And, then much of the things
that we worry about disappear,

because the higher intention is
operating here

and, our worries
need not to be there

because we are doing the same thing
like, like everybody else.

Loving others and giving in that
process and being responsible in...

in receiving what
they have to offer.

So, the Magnetical
and the gravitational are in...

in one package as...
as Mr Keshe has said.

You know, you cannot really
separate these two, they're together.

So, locally what can we do.
I mean we can give this and I'll be...

I'll go into a little more
specifics here in the sense that...

yeah, we can give
these devices to serve others,

whether it's health
or if we would need, or others.

... Yes, we will give them these things,
but it is equally important, the way we give,

way we give them, in the conduct
and in the manner we do this.

And... and this not only is...
elevates us as we have to

in order to serve better,
and better.

But, others can see that
there is more to the story

than just these devices
or this technology.

And, and that there is a...
there is a way to use these things,

it's not just,
"these things do this."

But there is a purpose
or an intention behind it.

It can be as simple as,
that I will get healed by it,

it can be even more
much more than that.

So, this is one area where
we can do it similarly, as we know,

education is an important
aspect of creating Unity.

... Those who know a little bit
about the brain washing know that,

some of our education system
uses that tec... some of those techniques.

But once we have our
intention there and make it fun,

then we bypass those
kind of mechanism.

I remember when I was
(chuckles) in high school.

I... I dreaded memorizing things
and that's kind of like a...

that's a (chuckles)
brain washing technique in a way.

So, ... so what can we do?

So we hear in teaching
we not only teach through our words

but through our conducts,
that our conducts bring Unity.

The children come together
because they are attracted by it,

they Unite with
the teacher in a way.

And, it's not just children,
but anybody...

... this, these ideas
and this technology

all has to be propagated
or throughout the societies.

So, in order to do that
it is important that

... people are attracted to it
but not just by the technology element

but way we deliver it.

And same goes for manufacturing the products
and other activities that we engage in.

So, right now I talked a little
bit about history and... you know,

and many of you can relate to it, although
I talked about it in terms of local sense.

And in the same way I talked about, a little
bit about how one might go about doing it.

But I'm sure many of you have lots of good
ideas on this and lots of local wishes

and even higher strength
wishes to make this a reality.

So, my request would be for you to
come forwards and ... give us some ideas.

Because, in a way
we are all the same,

although some of the beings on this Planet
speak a different language.

For example, the Mosquito sometimes
don't want to listen to me but,

but in due course I'm sure they will listen.

But... but we start with our close neighbors,
the fellow Human beings on the Planet

and then we start communicating
with others and get their input.

And we will feel it,
as we move into the higher strength fields.

And... we take the request and
we make it a reality.

And this time unlike the
previous time where it was written

in the British Library archive, or in the
hearts of people, in various Continents.

It will be written in the Soul,
archive of our Soul and,

and it will be,
it will propagate throughout...

the Universe or the Unicos.

So please ... come forward and
suggest your thoughts and wishes

For us to listen to ….
as we write this charter

Thank you very much.

(RC) Okay. I thank you Mosfeq.

So is there somebody willing to
come forward with that?

I see we have a attendee
with their hand up.

And is…
(GM) ... I'll come in,

... this is Gatua, from Kenya.

Yes, and thank you very much Mosfeq,
for talking about Unity

… The history of ... Unity and
the way to the future,

Unity and your experiences as a Bengali
representative of the Universal Council.

It is very important for all of us
to understand ... that for the first time

the Keshe Foundation is uniting people
through languages.

Why is this important?

Languages have been used to divide.

They have been used as divisive element
since colonialism,

... The so called tribes,
I call them Nations,

so I don't like tribe
because it's divisive by itself.

Because of his, its history
how it was used by the colonialist,

To divide indigenous peoples all over
the World, or everybody we have colonized.

Now a lot of people,
especially in politics today,

... see the languages as divisive.

Those who seek political offices,

Have been known to use the languages they speak
to look down upon others,

because of the bad history
that came from colonialism, how they were used.

And even before colonialism by the
divisive entities,

especially the Europeans who colonized
and took other people's lands.

Now, and we have
learned from Mr Keshe

that we can use
these languages to unite.

And this is important in that,

people who speak … a Particular language,
for example the Bengali

of India are all over the world they are
not restricted to one single space of India,

they are here in Kenya
they are everywhere in the World.

and so are the Gikuyu People of Kenya,
that I represent in the Universal Council,

so they are everywhere,

and we wish to unite them
where ever they are.

So, for the very first time
we're using languages without Borders

to unite for Peace.

Now, when we achieve this,

which we can begin locally,
Mr Mosfeq talked about what we can do locally?

So you begin where you are locally,
you unite as a member of UC,

... Universal Council of a particular language,
you uni.., you invite, I mean Unite

those who speak your language
wherever they are,

And in so doing
you are also is uniting others.

We encourage many more languages
to have representatives... in the Council

And there is a process of applying
to become a representative of your language.

So, we are very inclusive, we respect
all languages in the World, big or small.

And this is what makes the Keshe Foundation
approach unique in that it's using

what the common bind, the deal
that keeps people together, the languages.

And we must also understand that…

Everything in this Universe has
Gravitational-Magnetic Fields,

the Energy, the Soul,
there is a Soul of a language.

That Soul has
a Gravitational-Magnetic Field.

And in Unity, and we have also learned
today this morning from Mr Keshe,

that ... all of us are
members of the Councils.

These Councils, whether you
you have registered or not,

and when we unite,
the Totality becomes one Soul.

And of course that add strength in terms of,
Gravitational-Magnetic Fields,

so that when we wish for Peace,
we attain that Peace faster.

Now I'll try to say
what I just said in Gikuyu,

... the language that I represent
in the Universal Council.

(Dr Gatua Speaking
in Gikuyu Language.)

Thank you very much,
I have tried to just ... translate,

not directly but ... the idea,

the main ideas that
I said in English earlier.

And, again, uniting through languages
as we do in the Universal Council,

is a very important step, and we should
definitely understand and take away that home

I, I'll, ... what we learn today, we,
we, we have learned this in various places

you see like where they say,
"Unity is strength" and all that,

but in most cases,
they were united to disunite,

but for the first time
we are united for Peace.

Thank you very much,
I appreciate very much,

giving me this opportunity to contribute.
Thank you very much indeed.

(RC) Okay.
(GM) Over to you Rick

(RC) ... I was thinking there might be
some other Universal Council people

that would like to say something, I see
there is a number of them in panelists here.

(YM) Hey, everyone,
hi good day,

this is Paul from Togo.
(RC) Hi Paul.

I want to bring my part, and I want to
start in French for comeback in English.

(Paul (Yatoute) speaking in French.)

Hello everyone, was explaining in French,
about our understanding of Unity.

And I'm going to give the summary
of our understanding.

And our understanding is that
Man comes from the egg,

the Core, so Man is make by the Core,
which is the family.

And this family comes from the society.

In this way,
we understand in very simple way,

that, without society,
the life is not possible.

And without also Man, Human beings,
the society is not there.

So, this means that each society,
to serve the society.

And society have already served Man
to let Him be.

We have two ways, the way of One,
to become all, and the way of all to become One.

We are part of this society,
and we have to live in this society.

And as individual parts of this Planets,
have limits.

We are only limited.

But by integrating ourselves in our society,
there is no limits for us.

So, there is no needs and parts
not serving Humanity,

there is no need to say that I don't want to
stay alone without integrate in my society.

We needed to become one with
our society,

we have to serve our society because
we are made from society,

and society is made by Man.

So Man made these society and His,
and the society made Man.

So, I invite everyone to just understand
this simple principle,

that without society,
any life is possible,

and we are there to serve society,
and society already serve us.

We are part of this society.
We needed to be part of this society.

We needed to bring our part
to construct this society.

And there is no time, no energy
to loose by division each other.

There is no benefits,
because when you stay alone,

you understand that
you can't do nothing. Nothing.

Any life is possible without society.
we need society to make life possible.

So, please join One Planet, as big society,
from understanding of Human beings from now,

to bring your part to construct
where Man will not get no limit,

where Man will live in Peace,
because there is no limits.

Where Man will get what he needs, to be
enlight, because he didn't get no limits.

One part of reality is that, one Man
don't understand that

he create mayhem and created this
in Himself and then the society,

he cannot integrate our society.

Now we understand that by being limited
we start going out of the real and normal life.

So, this is big opportunity
to put out of our life our limits.

So, and we have all the tools
to Create a life for others.

What is what we need more?

We need everyone to be in Peace,
we need everyone to be enlight,

we need everyone to be
the life from society from the Universe.

So, the opportunity of One Planet,
One Race, One Nation is there.

Bring your efforts, your energy,
to construct this society.

For us, and for the next generation.

The color of skin of Man
is just the beauty of Creator.

It's just like the different parts
of Human body,

which have different shape,
and different form,

different color in us.

So this should not bring
division inside of society

because you see in yourself
the black color from your head,

our head is black color,
so you have black Man from Africa.

So, you understand that you have
in your structure this color.

Why do you have it?

Yellow, you have it,
another color from Humanity, you have it.

So the color from understanding
of us Human beings

should not bring division
in our society from now.

And language
is different type of vibration.

And when you see the Planet Earth,
we have different type of vibration

around the World,

when you just touch water,
it is one kind of vibration,

when you just touch the heat,
it is one kind of vibration.

So, you are already in also this part
of vibration, different part of vibration.

We have to understand that vibration
from the language,

which is the tool of expression
of anyone of ??? beings, ??? also.

And I want to end
by the money system.

Today, you are Man or you have more values
if you have money.

If you don't have money
you are nothing.

And we from this money

made by Man

to create a division.

We have to stop this.

We have to understand that we are, we
have more value and we are more than that

and we should
not let it to be

our value.

Our value is precious and

we don't need this
to put Man at his place.

I want to end by here by inviting
everyone to joins... to join with us

in this process of
One Planet, One Race, One Nation

By, Mr Keshe said,
"Understanding the Unity",

to let be the other one and to let put
out these, to get to one perfect society.

Thank you.

(RC) Thank you Paul.

Okay, is there someone else in
the panelists who'd like to go ahead?

(JG) I would like to say only one thing.

What about his ...

(RC) Could, could you say
who you are ??? please.

(JG) Yeah, sorry,
it's Jalal from Iraq.

(RC) Okay.

(JG) What I'm, what I'm thinking
Paul is already speak about it

about the black cells and
the white cells and all that.

So we are connected. I...

100%, without speaking also.

Thank you. Thank you Paul.

(RC) Anybody else in the panelists
who would like to ... say something?

Maybe,
someone coming?

(RP) Yes Rick.
(RC) Go ahead.

Can I come in? It's Rui from
the Universal Council speaking.

I represent in the Universal
Council the Portuguese language.

I have two ... points ... that
I would like to speak here

to manifest the importance
of Unity and ... how I understand ...

And first of all, the
first of that ... is ... we ...

I ... speak here as a speaker
Portuguese language because ...

the language ...
organize it in our brains,

in our understanding of the... the Reality
in the structure of the language,

so the sensibility
of the language.

That's what I represent here,
it's the sensibility

the structure of the understanding
reality in Portuguese.

So everyone speak Portuguese,
can ...

understand ... the same
structure of theory... reality

in the matter of the
language to end the civilities.

So they can be represented and the
if it's me now, can be anyone else ...

But I speak in Portuguese, sorry I speak
in English with all the other members

to put my, my sensibility,
Portuguese sensibility in English

because they don't
know Portuguese.

So in this way like Mosfeq said
when the English ... been in India

they give the
language to Unify.

So English is the language
that to used here to speak

with each, to Unify
the communication ...

but everyone of us has
the different structures ...

the different ...

I would say feelings
and understanding Reality.

But when we speak in English and you
could hear, we see we are all the same.

So the language here works as a ...

diverse ...
I wouldn't say diverse but

bigger, bigger understanding
of the Reality

in differ aspects that Reality manifest
with a little color each language

these little colours
and it shine different way.

So, that is the beauty,
it's the... to... to... make bigger

the... the understanding
for all of us.

So this say so I
continue speak in English

because it's important
it's the...
what to use in the, in our ...

in our committees ...

The other ha... idea that
was here talking about Unity

of the Planet and Nation
and Mr Keshe said so.

My understanding, it's that we
should ... defend and manifest ...

ourselves in the Universal Community
and as a Planet as One all, all Beings

because the Life ...
we are... we should be

representatives of the
Life in this Planet and ...

not only ... Humans but ... all
kind of Plan... Plants,
all kind of insects

but ... even stones and
the mammals, everything

because we
depend on it to live.

We com ... dissolve
of the Sun let's say

manifest Life on, on,
on the Planet ...

different ways ... and
for we can be support

and be supported by
each other as Unity.

So, I want to say here that we should
realise importance to be our kind of Life

in this Planet as Human integrated
with the other ones as One

and start to harmonize ...
all this

because, we did a lot of bad stuff
here and unbalanced the Planet.

So, we should correct then ... at
least, to understand the need to do it.

And we have technology for that.

We can... and we have the knowledge
to because we know that we,

we should and we have to
integrate ourselves in the way of Life.

And it's not the way to exclude ones

we don't, we feel that, we
don't he... here with all they are

we proceeding wrong.

They are this, we are the same.

We did the same before
because we didn't understand.

So, we have to give the knowledge to,
for everyone integrate and understand

integrate as One and ...
understand Life and manifest,

manifestation of the Life on the Planet.

That ... we are not only
the Humans in the Planet.

We are part of a Life and a
manifestation of Life on the Planet.

So it's all what
I want to say about it.

Thank you everyone.

Where is a, is that always pleasure
to be with all of you. Thank you.

(RC) Okay, who's ...

Who is next on the panelist
would like to go forward?

(MR) This is Mosfeq again.

I would like to men...mention
one thing that ...

our enlightened members of the ...

Council Members from
Africa ... Paul and Gatua

did is that they
used another language.

So, one of the most important thing
about ... saying it in another language

which I did not do, is that it conveys ...
a different Emotion as well as perhaps

as we learn

to understand

perhaps it conveys
more than the emotion.

A certain feelings at
a higher strength that

we give to each other

and help us enlightened

what is there in our cultural background
over the many years ... it has operated.

So, I think that there was a very
interesting point they brought up

without saying it
and I would like to say that

that's an important element in
uniting us in a higher strength and...

become closer in a more
intimate way sort to, sort of

going closer to the Reality.
Thank you.

(RC) Okay. Is there someone else in
the panelist would like to come forward?

Well, I could mention that ...
this is Rick Crammond here

I ... some of these stories reminds
me of when I was a child and I,

I would have what
was called a 'pen pal'.

And a pen pal is someone that you
would write to in a foreign country

and ... you just exchange letters
and, you know, develop a friendship

with this, basically a stranger in
some ... foreign country is a pen pal.

And now with our modern communication
such a Facebook and

all the other different medias available
to us as ... cultures in the World

... there's much more ... communication
occurring on a World wide basis

and so we have, naturally, much more
overlapping of the different cultures

the different colours, the different
languages, all of the variations

in the World, now
are more easily accessed,

they're more easily ...
in...in our attention.

So, I propose that now
instead of having pen pals

we now have what we
could call, 'Plasma pals'.

So, what's happening now is,
there's people Uniting all over the World

in the most incredible way
over well, what we call, 'Plasma'.

This teaching about Plasma,
the knowledge about Plasma

and how that applies
to our own ... Physicality

and to what we call our
Soul, maybe our essential self.

So, I propose that we can use
the term 'Plasma pal' and replace

what used to be call the pen pal and when
we make these connections with others

with a... a common purpose,
with a common ... understanding

then we have these 'Plasma
pals' all over the World ...

for example ... I'm in communication
with the people on the Livestream chat

and I haven't met these people and don't
know them outside of the Livestream chat.

But yet, we find there's, one person that
is from San Diego in the United States

next one is from Romania and another
from India and another from ... Nepal.

So ... that's just in the Livestream. I
know that's true of the Universal Council

and of... generally with the
interactions of the Keshe Foundation.

It's amazing how much of a cross section
of cultures that are involved and...

and ... they get totally
excited about this technology.

So ... I was thinking of that today,
I've got this overwhelming number of,

of ... what are called 'friends'
in Facebook

and most of these people
I've never met personally

and don't really
know who they are

but yet, almost everyone of the
literately thousands of friends that have ...

befriended me
in the last few years ...

have been very much ... Peaceful people,
people that are concerned about the World

and how we should
be progressing towards Peace

and they are, almost all, what
we called perhaps 'spiritual people',

not necessarily religious
but more sensitive or spiritual

or what we call,
'feeling' the Fields.

There's a terminology
that's coming up lately.

So, we have this interconnecting
network of 'Plasma pals' around the World

with... that have a... an understanding,
that when you meet another 'Plasma pal'

you know that, they
know something special,

something more than
just the ordinary ...

education and knowledge
that we receive in school.

And the chances are that,
when you connect with them

you'll be talking about things that,
aren't of just the ordinary...

you know sports and ... and ... movies
that are happening and,

and so on on TV and whatnot.
It's usually something more substantial,

let's say, that's going on as a communication,
as a interaction.

And often it has to do
with GANSes and the reactors

and some the other different aspects
of the technology of the Keshe Foundation

which again,
brings out that tendency,

that people that are connecting
in these networks,

sort of, already have and
they're already manifesting

and it brings it out in them in a,
in a glorious way

when they encounter the GANSes and
they have healing ... events that take place.

So they ... know their dog
gets healed by a Plasma Patch

or they save energy on their MaGrav
that they put together themselves.

And they happen to be a grandmother,
living in way out in the sticks

of some ... rural area somewhere,
and so on.

The stories just keep
coming in all the time

and it's an amazing process for me
personally to be involved with this.

To see ... especially the interactions
among ... the Human Beings of this Planet

and how they're getting
together, in so many ways.

And getting excited about ...
not only the technologies

it's not about getting excited
about the ... the technical stuff,

which was part of it initially that's kind
of why I got into it, it was a bit exciting

in terms of learning about this knowledge
and ... how do apply it and whatnot.

And it's still with us,
it's still absolutely is

but now there's much
more ... layering involved

many, many layers of knowledge

many layers of means,
of manifesting and so on.

So now it's ... become a much wider ...
area of exploration for myself and others.

... Many opportunities come
up, within the Keshe Foundation,

or within the environment that
we end up creating for ourselves,

with this intention of going forward
in a Peaceful manner, number one.

And with the idea of helping
and giving toward others

as a, a prime feature as well.

So, some of these ethics
and ethos are embedded into the way

people operated around
the Keshe Foundation.

And ... it's ... I just wanted to say
that it's quiet a fascinating journey

to... to watch that
and be part of that

and I'm very fortunate and full
of gratitude for that opportunity.

So, thanks to everybody
for helping with that to happen,

and for participating in all the ...
the "crazy shenanigans"

you might say,
that have occurred,

all the wonderful things that have been
invented and innovated and developed

And the ideas and
concepts that have come out.

And ... all the wonderful people that
have connected and wanted to share

and wanted to get knowledge
and... and receive and so on.

So, it's a... it's a amazing process
and thank you everybody

for that ...
for that opportunity.

Okay, so opening it up to someone else
who'd like to say something.

How about you Lisa?

(LM) I'm here Rick ...

... I actually would like
to share a screen because I've...

I've put together a little bit of stuff that the EC
have been discussing

and I though that it can help
enlighten some other people.

So, if I could share the screen please?

(RC) Go ahead.

(LM) I'm just organizing here.

Can you see that?

Hello?

(VV) Hi Lisa. Yeah Rick I think he just
dropped out for a second...

so he'll be right back in.

(LM) I thought it was me.
Okay can you actually see that?

(RC) Sorry about that, yeah...

Okay we're back again hey.
... All is good.

(LM) Okay so, ... we've just been having ...
a bit of a discussion in the 'EC'

about how we can take everything forward now,
because Mr Keshe has...

has... has systematically gone through
different parts of the Plasma for us,

from the Nano to the GANS and the Fields
and he's taught us about the Soul,

but ... somehow a lot of people are not
managing to make the connection and so,

we need to discover
how we can help them and,

how we can learn
and grow and mature

and to understand
all of the stuff that he's taught.

And, so we posed different questions
to ourselves and...

and had, you know,
went around this question.

And we said,
"What is the difference,

between a Man that has an experience...
has experience and and that one has wisdom?"

And, the one that has wisdom
has learned from his experience

as opposed to just reacting from it.

And, what is the difference
between us

having fleeting glimpses of Truth
versus fundamental enlightenment?

Because, through the eons, religion
has always just given us fund...

... fleeting glimpses of Truth.

It hasn't really taught us
much fundamental enlightenment.

And we constantly need to ask ourselves
when we feel these glimpses of truth...

we need to ask ourselves why
and delve deeper.

And, we need to be open also,
to all new information

as being a stepping stone
to further understanding.

Because we need to acknowledge that,
knowledge for everyone

... the knowledge of everyone
is useful to you too.

Because, everyone on this Planet
has experienced and has learned things,

and when we listen to them with
open hearts and open minds,

we learn something new.

And, this is what Mr Keshe
does all the time.

I notice every time he
asks somebody for information,

he's very open and he listens
and he gains from that knowledge.

And this is how we are going to
help ourselves to enlighten ourselves,

because only we can do it.

And, so this means that we actually
have to do the work now,

because he's given us all the tools,
he's given us the way

and he's taught us all the bits.

But, now we have to figure out
how we have to put it together.

And, so we have to start doing the work,

and doing the work is actually using
our critical thinking and delving deeper

and being open
to build your understanding,

and taking responsibility
for your own enlightenment,

because I'm afraid
there's no short cuts.

I think that what
we've learned about the Plasma

and operation of the Plasma,
is the shortcut.

And so, we're not going to
be able to learn about our Soul

by finding a new meditation technique
or breathing in a special way.

We're only going to learn by
understanding the operation of ourselves

and by gaining the knowledge
we need to understand

and by giving that knowledge
and that understanding

and that enlightenment
back to others.

And serving them,
to help them to understand,

Loving them
and allowing them to...

to grow in their understanding,
however they need to,

is the only way we're going
to find that enlightenment.

And, so it means that we're really
going to have to now connect

the dots between the
science of the Plasma

and the Soul aspects of
what Mr Keshe has taught.

And so, now we really need to
dig deeper into the science of the Soul

and we now have the knowledge
that our Soul is the source within us.

And how does this creator
which is us, actually work.

And, so now we need to use
the knowledge we've gained

with Plasma science
to figure out how we operate.

Because, in essence we now understand
we're the reactor,

our Soul is the essence of us,
that can create anything.

And how does this actually work?

... So, the science is the basic user manual,
to explain the Field interaction

and move which is at the
essence of all existence.

And so now we
need to learn how to fly.

Because Mr Keshe has
given us our Spaceships,

'cause we are the Spaceship
and our Soul is the pilot.

And, the Plasma science and
the Field interaction is our user manual,

on how we're going to learn, to now
navigate our way without harming others.

How we can navigate our way
to help others?

How to not crash
into each other anymore?

Which we seem to do
on a regular basis.

And ... I think that this is
what we need to try and work on

in the next while to connect the dots,
to get our user manual organized,

so that we can
get our learners license and...

start operating our Souls
on a slightly different level,

because now we start understanding,
that every interaction we have is a Field

and how the Fields move,
how the Fields interact.

And, this is all going to come to help
us to understand how our Souls work,

because this...
this is a fundament...

been a fundamental problem
with religion all the time.

We've told we need to believe,
we need to believe this and believe that

and the core truth in many of the religions,
just little fleeting glimpses,

but we've always had to believe.

Now, we don't believe anymore, because now
we know, the science can explain it for us.

And we need to understand the science
so that we can use it to understand the Soul.

And, yes we will use ourselves
as our Spaceships to fly,

if we delve deeply
enough into this.

And, when we look at... a bit above the page
we were talking about how...

how... how we learned
to mature and grow.

... If we look at everybody on the Planet
and everywhere else in the Unicos

as an aspect of the creator,
they all have experience,

and if we listen
and learn from them,

they all, will basically help us to be
in a sense, the flight simulator,

because at the moment
we're just learning.

But if we have other experiences from
other people and we understand

fundamentally at a Soul level
and touch their Souls with our Souls,

by giving them Love and understanding.

We can understand their experiences
and we can allow them to...

to give us the knowledge
and the Field-Strengths

to understand certain conditions.

And to gain from that, and
to be able to teach and serve more.

And so I hope that this inspires everybody,
to have a new deeper understanding,

and to start delving deeper into
the science of the Souls.

As we know now what it is. Because we always
feared, connecting the science and the Soul.

Scientists don't
want to know about Souls.

And a lot the Soul seeking people got
necessarily want to do the science.

Because I think it's difficult, it doesn't,
isn't sitting nicely in their brain,

But, we are going to have to connect,
connect the dots to be really empowered

and enlightened people
in the time to come.

And so, I please encourage
all of you to do that.

(RC) ... Excuse me Lisa, could you
make your... the screen bigger?

There is an request ...
to make the writing larger.

(LM) Uhm OK,
(RC) F5 is suggested by Flint.. to ... to ...

(LM ) That better?
(RC) No, that didn't change.

(LM) No...
(RC) Ah, there we go! That's way better.

Thank you so much.
(LM) Okay.

Okay, so I... I wondered if anybody
had any... any ideas and thoughts on that?

... Any feedback or discussion
they'd like to have?

Because by discussing, is how we...
we learn from each other

and how we gain
from other's experiences.

(UC) Hi, Lisa and everybody.
I'm Ursula.

(LM) Hi, Ursula.

(UC) Universal Council in Spanish,
... I agree with all what you say.

Very beautiful message.

And we know it's already inside of us
and sometimes we forget.

Because there are fears,
they had competitivity,

they are all the things that makes us
feel sad sometimes.

With family problems
or community problems,

or catastrophes like that... that
in United States in this moment.

And we know
from where they're come

and we feel also the fear of everybody,
they are around us.

And sometimes it's hard to... to have
this strongness to... to show them the way.

And sometimes they don't believe us
when we are talking.

We must be Unified for this reason
to be stronger all together.

And, thank you for your...
for your message. Thank you very much.

(LM) ... We, we also had a few idea
when we are discussing the Charter.

And I don't know if any of the
other EC members are... are available

Because unfortunately a lot of them
have other commitments

or they fast asleep in the middle
of the night at this time

So, I don't know
if anybody else is there?

(K2) Hello Lisa, Hello together.
This is Klaus from Austria.

(LM) Hello Klaus.

(K2) I love your development.
It's wonderful, wonderful.

and I want to say some words
from great Nelson Mandela. He said,

"I am the master of my life.
I am the captain of my Soul."

And I say, "So it is."
Thank you for all. Thank you.

(LM) Thanks, Klaus.

So, when we were
discussing the Charter,

we are trying to come up with...
formulating idea.

on how the Charter needs to work.
and because of this

the EC we had good
debate and discussion,

and tried to... to formulate ideas
coming from Souls.

Because, everytime before in any
form of religion, or any form of, of legalese

Everything has always come from
physical operation.

None of it has come from
a Soul level understanding.

And as soon as you come from
physical operation, things fall apart.

Because you stick, stick boundary
that are not supposed to be there.

And so, it doesn't work.

And so, we thought that we'd share a few
of our discussion points with everybody

Because, it opens up
a lot of thought.

And opens up a lot
of avenues to try to understand.

And, hopefully it will help
all the members of the Councils

and everybody else out there,
who listens to this,

to, maybe, gain some insight as to
how we end up creating the Charter

and... and
what it actually means.

So, this is not a Charter
to tell us how to behave,

because that's
done with it.

We don't know, we don't need to know,
we don't need to be told how to behave.

We're not children,

But rather it needs to be an
understanding of how we need to be.

And "Be" is a very different word
to behave.

And I hope that that word means
something to people.

So, man understands its origin
and he respects his Totality.

And we understand that our Soul
is within us and we are the Creator.

And also that we're part of the whole,
and therefore our Soul is

part of the Totality of Souls,
which is The Creator.

And therefore we understand,
whatever we do in physical form,

impacts on all other Souls
in Creation.

So, this was the first point that
we come up with as a discussion point.

To kind of help us to decide, how we need
to operate in the future, as a Human race.

And what points we need
to discuss in the Charter.

So, we first have a look at division borders
and physical difference.

And, once we know our Soul is within us,
and our Soul is Creator itself,

and also part of the grand Creator
of whole Unicos.

We are therefore all inter-connected
through our Souls and part of Totality.

And so, there is no border between Souls.
No physical border can divide us.

No language and culture should
come between us.

And every other Soul,
no matter its manifestation,

is connected to us
on this Planet and all of Creation.

So every Soul in every Galaxy, universal
dimension is part of

and connected to
our Soul and is beautiful.

And all division is ultimately
just the physical deception.

When you understand that, it starts...
it starts allowing you

to understand how we need to operate,
on this Planet and beyond.

Because, now we understand
we can't set limits on

who we're going to eat
or who we're going to kill.

We can't set limits on who
we're going to interact with

or love
or not love at all.

It means we have to consider that
every single things.

In Totality, it's just another part of
the Creator, which is us.

And, so, that brings with it a fundamental
understanding of how we need to operate.

Because, if we hurt any other being,
no matter what, we are hurting ourselves.

And that starts a whole idea of
we need to go with our Charter.

And, I don't know if anybody would like to,
come into the discussion on that one.

And ... give us your
insights that you might have.

Okay, I'm going to carry on with
our governance and hierarchy.

Because this was something that I suppose,

many people are thinking,
How on Earth are we gonna govern a society?

Do you even call it 'governing' because
we're not here to tell people what to do.

... We're just here to help
and so ...

We have to look at ways
that the society can operate.

That is totally different now
from what we are used to.

And we've always had and it's,
it's ... it, it's quite a difficult thing

to come to, to understand
how we need to operate as a society,

because now we we've got to look closely
at what Soul says.

So, if we see the beauty of every Soul,
and we celebrate its uniqueness,

as contribution to the beauty of Creation,
... It elevates all of us.

And so, if we have a combination of
dynamic individual uniqueness,

if it, it enhances the Totality,
and gives Creation its dynamic beauty.

And Mary explained this
in a very beautiful way.

She was trying to describe
a set of colored lights,

in a, in a beautiful ball,
and all the colored lights are flashing,

and together they make this beautiful
... light display that we see,

but as soon as you take one or two
of the lights out of the equation,

it changes the whole, the whole light show,
it doesn't look the same anymore.

And this is why every little light
of every little color, is important.

And that is why Creation is so beautiful,
because we are all so unique.

And, we all can bring something to
the table, it doesn't matter who we are,

we all have unique qualities
that are a Field-Strength

that can help something else,
or help someone else,

or explain the beauty of something
to somebody else,

and in your unique way,
you are important.

And so, we have to make sure
that everybody feels

that they're taken care of,
in their unique way they are happy.

And, we also understand
that we all can serve in our unique way.

So we need
to celebrate diversity and know

that we're all unique expressions
of Creator itself.

And if our Souls carry Totality,
we are all in essence the same,

We're all however,
each an expression of the Creator,

carrying within us a combination of energies
that make us unique.

And this allows us to serve
in a myriad of ways,

to bring us closer to the Creator.

So, with this understanding
there's no place for hierarchy,

or voting or terms of office, or any kind of
previous methods we used to govern the Planet.

And because we need
to choose to serve in a way,

that matches our needs and others,
for as long as we choose to do so.

And, in this way it'll allow us
to all serve and give more,

and to benefit Humanity and Totality.

So, if I feel I have a unique talent,
and I wish to be of service,

that is the way
we should happily want to serve.

We can't squeeze people
into a box and say,

"You must do this and you must do that
and so you must serve."

That would never be the purpose.

The purpose would be, "Allow everyone
and their unique expression,

to serve in which ever way
they felt comfortable."

And their Field-Strength will contribute
to the whole Field-Strength of everything.

And when they feel
maybe that their Field-Strength

doesn't match the spot
that they're in at the moment anymore,

they can move on,
and do something else to serve.

And that means yes, if you want to
move on and do something else,

you have the freedom to do that as well.

And I, we see this as a way for Humanity
to operate in the Councils from now on.

And ... I don't know if any of you
might want to

work... think on that one and how,
it means that your positioning,

you position yourself
where you're comfortable.

As a reactor, as we've learned
before and the Fields,

you position yourself where...
where you feel comfortable,

and you accommodate all the others
and the others accommodate you.

And this is the best spot
for you at the moment,

and so that is
where you can serve.

I hope that makes
sense to people?

And then we had a good discussion
about mutual consent.

And this was something we
tossed about for quite a while,

because, to create a positive outcome,
for both Entities, there must be an agreement,

on the interaction.

So, mutual consent allows for Totality
to benefit from all interaction.

And there seems to need to be
a matching of Fields,

when we see that ... you need an attraction
of matching Fields and then

something seems to mesh
and you can give and take very happily.

So, where the Fields are not matching
we can change our position

and find a place
where balance can be achieved.

So, mutual consent needs
to be the essence of how Humanity organizes

and restores our beautiful Planet.

And those who wish to serve will find ways
to bring about harmony and balance,

where all consent to the most
beneficial cause of action.

In this way Human society can operate from,
from... one level through,

sorry, through to Planet wide,
and though it's necessary

to have a level of maturity
for this way of operating.

Because it's quite difficult
when you understand

that we don't work like this yet,
at the moment.

We think we know better, we think we know
how we need to restore the Planet.

We think we know what is good for the animals
and what is good for the Earth,

and what are good
for the plants and the trees.

... I don’t think so, I think we have
to learn to ask them how they would like,

to come back into balance.

And not be arrogant enough
to think that we know best,

And it will be of
great learning process

for us to communicate
with the plants and the animals.

And the stones and the rivers
and whatever, the ecosystems,

because this is also
very important part I learned.

I've learned a lot
from the original people of Australia.

... They lived in balance
and harmony with nature,

on this Continent for 40 thousand years
before a white Man came.

And, when the settlers arrived here,
they took one look and they said,

"Oh, these wild Men they do nothing,
they don't understand how anything works,

they're not civilized," and promptly
decimated everything around them.

... But what they hadn't realized was that,
the original people of this Continent,

had connected on a Soul level,
with all the creatures on this Continent.

From the smallest... smallest animal,
to the plants, to even the microbes.

And they understand... understood
how to manage the environment,

in harmony with everything.
So they every 5 years,

would burn a certain patch of...
of ... of land,

because they understood that burning creates
a regeneration for certain of the plants.

But, only after a certain amount of years,
because then they wouldn't decimate

any of the other vegetation around
and only certain parts of the land.

That would allow
for regeneration.

They understood how, the land was fragile,
and so could not be cultivated on a heavy scale.

Like we do in ...
in Europe or anywhere else.

So, they would create almost
'forest gardens', you could call them.

And they would plant and nurture little seeds
and dot them around the environment.

And create their food forest,
so that they knew,

that all the vegetation was helping each other
to survive in times of drought.

These are all things that we can gain
knowledge from people

that have been in this position.

And they could literally, as well,
speak to the animals through their Souls.

They would hunt by asking in dream-time
the night before,

for all the old
and infirm creatures to come,

so that those would be the ones
that could be hunted.

... So that they left the, the babies alone,
and they'd call in the night.

To the Souls.

So, yes we understand now we shouldn't
be eating any, any other creatures.

But, this was a very balanced way to live.
because they touched the Souls

of all the creatures around them, and
could live in harmony and balance with them.

As they knew then how to do.

And so, we need to learn how to do this.

Yes, not eating any other creatures,
be them animal, mineral or vegetable.

but we can learn so much

... about how we need to operate
in this mutual consent and discussing,

and

Soul to Soul
with all of these other beings,

how we need to operate
on this Planet and beyond.

And so those were just a few topics
that we had brought up in our discussions

about how to set up the Charter.

And ... I'd Love for anybody else
to maybe have a comment or

a discussion
on any of these points.

I hope I brought up some, some discuss...
discussion points for people

Thanks, Rick.
(RC) Oh, definitely. Thank you Lisa.

For example Alex says, "Lisa, your depth of
understanding is astounding, I love it."

um, so thank you for that.
And others in the Livestream have

... similar ...
comments there ...

they're agreeing with your understanding
is being a good way to explain things.

Course it's not just you.
It's the, the group work done, these ...

(LM) Yes, unfortunately they weren't here
to share today, but ... they all,

we all worked on this together.

(RC) Uh-hm
(LM) as a kind of a preamble

to the Charter. So that people
have a deeper understanding once

we start working on the Charter,
which are going to be quite short,

... sharp, .... to the point, ....
ways of operating.

(RC) Okay. Is there somebody else
who'd like to say something about that?

Let me see. I see Pia has come in
to the panelists, for example.

(PL) Yes, hello. It's ...
it's Pia from Denmark.

... I would like to say thank you to you,
Lisa for those really good words there.

And I just want to add a little ...

I'm so inspired to ...
when you pick up the word 'balance'

Because, this is ...
what I was thinking about

... during all the speaks
I've heard today

that ...

what we are looking for,
and what we all are working with is ...

trying to get closer to the balance.

And ... it's not always easy,
but it's like ...

like Mr Keshe he also ...
talked a lot about. ...

When the Planets are working natural
in our Universe, and ...

our Solar System.

They need to find balance and, otherwise
they cannot work. They cannot be there

in the, in the right position. And they
cannot hold, hold it, everything together.

So ... it's like the nature,
over and over again and ...

it's just like we need to ...

though nobody can tell us
what we need to do,

but a it's just an, an awareness

just to look, maybe more
into the word 'balance', and...

and listen to the nature around us
to see, how do they found balance.

How do they

... the Fields work?

You know, they have to position
themself to find balance.

And if they cannot find balance there,
they ...

reposition themselves.

And ...

it's like they're probably putting much attention
if we look in the worldwide scale

in all the discussions
about Peace and

about everything ...

we need to do to,
to get a more safe World and

more beautiful World to live in.

It's like we have not heard much
about the word 'balance'.

But em ...

if we cannot find the balance somewhere
in our own system,

it can be difficult to find the balance
on the others

So, it's like I, I have a feeling
we need to go to look to more or so

to start with ourself always.

to do more to ...
How can we find this balance so we can

... touch other people,
and help other people?

And this is ...
always the question.

And I just wanna
stick some words into it, you know,

you know, we all know the importance
of listening for example.

... to find balance
in our communication.

... if we,

we ever have to,
will find balance we need to

to do specific things with ourself
to find it.

And ... to be aware where we can look at,
where it's not working.

And, very often we see in conflicts

the problem can very often be,
maybe not listening to each other,

not listening enough.

and knows,
know when you have to step forward

and maybe sometimes
know when to step back,

and just listening.

And this is

something, maybe to be aware of,
if it could be an inspiration.

And ...

This is a way to create balance,
actually.

It's like when you are,

your singing in a very big choir.
We all have each voice.

And it's really good
we have each separate voice.

It's really strong, and we come
from very different places in the World.

When we are going together
and we are, if we are having,

if we will make a good voice,
good sound, we need to blend,

with our voices so it will be a blend.

But it doesn't mean that we don't have
our individ, (individuality)

what you call it, yourself.

We are still strong
in our own language.

We're still strong in our culture and,
but what we do, we are just blending.

That's all.

And we're listening
more to each other

And then we'll be stronger.

So, that was just a little input
to what you saying.

And that's all for now.

Thank you very much.

(LM) Thank you.

(RC) Thank you, Pia.

Okay, ...

Got Erick coming in here. If you'd like
to say something, apparently?

Lisa do you have a ... more ...

(LM) No, Rick. That.. that was...
that was it for today.

(RC) Okay, well we can keep that up as a...
something to share on the screen

till we have some
(LM) If you'd like to...

otherwise just tell me
and I can unshare.

(RC) Okay. Thank you.

Erick, did you have something
you wanted to say?

(EK) Yes, Erick from Denmark.

... Now we are talking about balance.

And we talk also
about government and control.

And what I find is not okay,
and not in balance

this that here in the Western World,
the banking system is crumbling.

The banking system has harvested
so much money out of our societies

that it almost
cannot function anymore.

That is why we have the interest rates
very, very close to zero.

... When we look at the... the
African Continent, it is totally different.

If... if I want to transfer money to Norway,
to Germany, to England, to France,

... and a lot of other countries.

I can do this without any effort.
It's so easy.

You just go into your PC,
and use your net banking program

and you transfer money.
Very easy.

But, when we look at the African Continent
it is something else,

because the
African countries are not included

in the countries
I can transfer money to

and this is very bad.

It has a lot of implications.

One of them is that if's, if investors
want to put money into Africa,

invest in Africa, it is very
difficult for them or has been,

because they are, they are a
little loophole in a bank in African

that enables you to transfer money
in two days and that is very, very, good

But, what is not so good is that
very few know about this and ...

it is like a closed society,
Africa, banking wise.

If it was not, then it would be
impossible to have interest rates

of 17% 10% in Africa and
here in Denmark we have ...

below 1% in interest rate.

This is very bad, because
this is a very big load on society

that the banks they
harvest this so much money

and they create the
money out of nothing.

There's only three countries in this
World that has control over their money.

The rest is unfortunately
still done by the Rothschilds

and they take our money
and this is very bad.

There's a lot of initiatives to stop
it, but it has not been stopped yet.

But, hopefully we will see in the
coming month that this system will end.

And there's also this... Mr Keshe
has a very large capacity

of analyzing everything and he has
announced his own banking system

and I think this will open up Africa.

If the, the other don't do it and ...

this is needed, because as
I say have said more than once

"Africa is a continent that
has been robbed for centuries"

and it's still going on.

A friend told me about ...
I don't know which country it was

but they had a lot of Gold
and nothing else is mostly sand.

And the American soldier they come
and work there and ... harvest Gold.

And I saw a picture of a
container half filled with Gold

and two soldiers sitting
laughing upon the Gold.

They steal what belongs to Africa.

This is bad and this must end.

So I think in the future,
because Mr Keshe put

his development center in Ghana.

We are at the beginning of
another way the World is organized.

Because, as long as the network
of the existing power structure

is in place in Denmark
and other countries.

As long as we haven't ripped up all
the pedophile rings in the power structure.

You have to understand

if we hypothetical ...
hypothetically assume

that you wanted to go into
the top level of Hell's Angels

in order to get up to the
top level of that organization

you need to kill somebody
or do something else very bad,

so they have something on you.

Because, if you don't stick to the
order and the rules of that organization

they can easily hand you out to the
police and you are no problem anymore.

When you con... consider
our political system

the politicians and now
maybe I'm a little bit rough here,

but in my view it's not the
brightest people that get politicians.

It's so often so, that the people
who deserve to have power

are not the one desiring
to, to get the power.

It's another type of people.

And ... they ... they work inside
the constrol... control structure

called 'political parties'.

And political parties is actually a
very anti-democratic institution

because it's top level controlled.

So, if you join a political
party in the Western World

if you are not willing

to do everything
to get to the top

you have no chance of getting
any influence in that party, nothing.

And if you are willing to do
anything then you will be promoted,

then you will get to the upper level.

You will be accepted in Bilderberg
group and in Tri-lateral Commission

and you are told to do ... what
you are told, what you have to do

you are told everything and
then you will be rewarded in some way

that unfortunately not
see the day of light now,

but ... hopefully will see
the day of light in the coming time.

And this political structure, is
controlled the same way as Hell's Angels,

in principle.

When the political system
has ... the illusion of a democracy

they have ... elections

and we elect the very few
that is willing to do anything

they get to the top of the structure.

They win the election because they
have all the mass media behind them

that's why they got to the top

and then they celebrate the election.

At these celebrations
there will be a lot of girls

and depending upon the
country, more or less worse,

there will be a lot of girls, lot of liquor,
lot of drugs and lot of video cameras.

And I cannot say this is a case
every time but many, many cases

when you hear about a
political... sex scandal of a politician.

In my view that is a polici... politician
with a bit of conscience left.

He has, he has refused
to obey an order and they did

than they just expose some of
the material from the election they...

the videos or whatever
material they have

and he is done as politician.

Then he gets replaced with one
that is willing to do everything.

This is the way our
society is controlled.

And the controllers Bilderberg
group and Tri-lateral Commission

that is organizations,
made by the big banks.

So where the big bank
want to rob a country

they change the laws so that
the, the inside in the decisions,

in the political system gets removed
we are not allowed to know what,

what ... they discuss, the politicians,
even though they call it a democracy.

That has happened in Denmark.

And then the biggest entity say, in ... the...
company in Denmark

has been sold to Goldman Sachs,
one of the biggest banks in the World,

one of the most greedy
banks in the World.

They even say on their homepage
that they don't deal in win-win situation.

"We always win", they say.

And they did it in Denmark.

They got 19% of the
CS in this company.

They got ... they got the right
with 19% of the CS to decide

who is the chairman of the board

and they even got some rules
that is was impossible for them

to lose money on this investment.

If they lose money the Danish
tax payers has, has to compensate.

This is just an example
for my country and I'm sure

if we began digging in other
countries we find similar stories

and especially in
Africa where they are

keep, kept in such
a tight grip, everyone.

I say this, this is a
less nice information

than much of the
more Humans stuff,

but ... I think is, this is a
part we need to focus on also.

How to stop this in a nice way

because ... fast and violent changes
is not what I desire,

we have to do it in a way,
so nobody get's hurt.

But we need to change this.

I think that was what are my
view on balance,

it's, there's a lot of other things to say,
and a lot of other things has been covered,

but the control system
and the money system is bad,

and we need to do something about it.
Thank you for listening.

(RC) Okay, thank you Erick.

Okay, is there someone else?

(MR) ... This is Mosfeq, and I want to talk
a little bit in a slightly different way,

about what Erik
just talked about.

Long ago the same people instigated
the British invasion in India.

Yeah, it caused a lot of damage
and we are still affected by it.

But in spite of all that,

there was a Unifying element,
as I talked earlier.

So, given the situation,

things we can do as Council,
as individuals, anywhere in the World,

is to use a stronger position,
a higher strength of the Field,

the Soul level, to elevate these people,
so that they serve the,

our condition, which is Peace.

In, in that we Unify them
for our cause.

In case of the British invasion in India,
it took two hundred and fifty years or so,

by people, very few people, who were
responsible for this action of Unifying.

But in this case, we have the Councils,
we have the people.

We can accelerate with this strong field,
this process, so that we achieve Peace.

These people they pander to the
lower level strength,

of physical fear and other things,
we all know about those.

But, if we engage together,
it shouldn't take very long at all.

And signing of the Peace Treaty
of One Nation, One Planet and One Race,

is a mark on the ground,
for this coming down of this facade.

Thank you very much.

(RC) Okay, thank you. Any more of our
panelists have something to say?

Michelle said, "Brilliant presentation Erik,
thank you."

Okay, I've got one attendee with their hand up,
that perhaps we can bring in.

Lucas, I'll promote you to a panelist,
then you'll have an opportunity to speak.

You could say who you are,
and what your question is or comment?

Hello Lucas?
(LV) Yes, hello, can you hear me?

(RC) Yes, hello!
(LV) Yes, hello. Hello everybody.

... My name is Lucas from Vienna,
and I'd like to make some comments maybe,

which are coming out of following
the last Soul teachings,

the Universal Council,
the Earth Council,

and my feeling and my question
is in this regard,

How or can we, when we make a wish,
that we can bring everybody,

with the Field-Strength
of the Universal Council,

or everybody who is involved
to a higher level or to a stronger level?

There is a very easy technique actually,
how you bring yourself in the now.

And ... this is basically where you,
when you take your index fingers,

and put them maybe on the table before,
you feel your left finger

how it feels on the table,
and the right finger,

how it feels on the table,
and then both together.

Then the brain, which is actually
always bringing us out of the now,

... can ... is a little bit busy
with the two fingers feeling on the table,

or the knees or whatever, and then you can,
... then you are in the state of now.

then you will, you're stronger to your Soul
and closer to your Soul.

And if, this is maybe what you can try,
or I can add,

if all the Universal members,
the Earth members,

are doing this when there
is a special wish,

together they can create out of the now,
a much bigger or let's say a bigger Field,

or a higher Field, that it's,
they can be attached to the others.

This was my idea,
that I wanted to share.

(RC) Okay, thank you.
That's an interesting technique,

and people can try that one I guess.

(ME) We could share harmony.

(LV) If everybody does this now?
Let's see what it does!

(RC) Okay. If everybody
is brought into the now,

with this technique as you say,
... then what Lucas?

(LV) Sorry?

(RC) Now that you've brought everybody
into the moment, at this moment, then what?

(LV) Then what?
...Then if you're in this feeling,

... you can let this,
the whole thing go,

and then in the
Gravitational Magnetic Field,

the Field itself can manifest,
manifest itself,

in the absolutely appropriate way.
And the interesting thing what I experience,

for many years now,
and I also get out of the now very often,

because of the Fields outside,
but the more you practice this,

and the more you are in the now,
the things are manifest, manifesting themselves,

... in the right way, the,
let's say in the more total way,

or more the Totality how I understand it,
or let's say I have an understanding of that.

(RC) Okay. Is there any other comments
about that? In particular?

Did, did anyone try the exercise
with any success?

(ME) Oh sure, I felt like everyone
was sharing harmony, peace, bliss etc.

(LV) Then the interesting thing is that,
if you're in the now,

you, there is no space for fear,
or threats, or wrong doing,

because you, you are basically in this
very close to your Soul.

(RC) Okay, good point.

(LV) So, I know it sounds funny,
but it's very interesting.

If you experience that,
experiencing it.

(RC) Yes and that's a good exercise
in the sense that we...

bypass the brain, the busy brain that's
gets in the way of being in the moment.

(LV) Yeah.

(RC) Okay, but we need to move forward,
besides the moment,

in order to have less dead air-time,
otherwise we'll sit here in silence,

in the moment.
Not too much will necessarily happen.

This is one of the problems
with being totally in the moment.

Then you go to flow with the environment,
but if everyone's in the moment,

there is not much flow going on.

(LV) You, you leave it to the Field
then afterwards. Then you...

(RC) Pardon me, leave it to...
(LV) Leave it to the Fields,

to, to make it perfectly,
because the, the thought we have,

they are still thoughts
from wherever they come from.

and not... a lot of them,
are not hundred percent close to the Soul.

So how do you know if it's right or wrong?
You leave it and then you,

the more you operate close to the Soul,
in this state of mind,

it comes, comes out of yourself,
much easier.

The more appropriate things we have,
or more balanced Fields.

(RC) ... Okay. That's a good point.

Okay, any other, any other comments?
God, God, give me some feedback.

Okay, is it working now? Yes.

(ME) Rick's always in the now.
Being the moderator.

(RC) I wouldn't say that.

(ME) Being the moderator
of a live show.

(RC) Well, it puts you on the spot,
that's for sure

and there's not lot of
... personal time, let's put in that way.

Okay, is there any more from the
Earth Council or Universal Council,

members or others who'd like
to make a comment, at this time?

And... do we have Carolina here yet,
is she?

Well, I don't see her
on the list, actually.

Okay, there's ... maybe some comments
I can read from the Livestream?

Get my ... glasses on
there you go.

... BJ mentions it's important now,
not to dwell on negative thoughts,

there'll be new forms of governments
and banking very soon.

And Swetha mentions,
"Here in India

pedophilia is so much easy to get,
in the name of religion.

These pundents and Gurus are worshiped here,
even many know about them.

Flowers and fruits and golden chair,
for the pedophiles in India.

And BJ mentions Mr T. Mr T?
maybe she means Mr Keshe,

... is eliminating the pedophiles,
and it is happening in most countries now,

they are being found
and arrested.

Not sure BJ, if you meant
Mr T or Mr K?

Okay ...

... Swetha mentions, "where I live
I am surrounded by families,

each following a Guru, or they are their
family Guru, and the family members,

don't... don't hesitate
to give time to that,

oh they, they don't give time to that Guru
to be alone with their children."

So ...

Anyway, there seems to be abuse
through religions is the concept there.

And BJ, the last comment
is ... about

Being in the now and mentions,
"taking a breath before speaking,

and allowing source to give guidance
on the next words or action."

And Jay McDougal says in the chat,
"I took my kids to McDonalds yesterday.

All the staff's been taken away
and replace with TV screens,

now you place your own order
and take a ticket, then wait for it to arrive.

So, in the long runs,
McDonalds make a lot more money.

But still the prices go up.
Probably wrong eating a thousand chicken, etc,

in the first place, but as things progress,
they don't seem to get better, just more greed."

Well that's a good point
in terms of the automation,

is actually making a huge difference,
in the next few years,

the artificial intelligence,
and the ability for machines

to do the work of Humans,
we have automated cars

and we see
new self-driving electric trucks,

semi trucks that have come out
in the last week or two,

introduced by one of the major manufactures,
and also the Tesla car company

is having a semi truck,
electric truck, self-driving,

coming out in the next few weeks,
it'll be announced.

Depends, what happens there
is the reason I mention that is,

those jobs like in developed countries,
and most undeveloped countries,

one of the main jobs that pay people,
the most popular job in Canada for example,

is truck driver, and if those
truck driving jobs are taken away,

and if the other jobs,
such as the McDonalds,

where I read recently,
they're raising the minimum wage,

in the area,
where I'm at in Canada.

And what's gonna happen,
...

they automatically... is places like
McDonalds, will be letting people go,

and installing these automated machines,
that take over,

because there's a break-even point
where your Human slave labor.

is cheaper than the machines,
and if the machines become cheaper.

It's a no-brainer for these companies
to switch over.

If they can get away with it,
it's part of what they do.

So, we're have a lot of people
without the jobs,

that have been the main stay for people,
you know, these McDonalds type jobs they're,

they've been entry level jobs
for young people,

specially to get... you know,
get going in the job market as such, and ...

get extra money for summer
or whatever... whatever it is.

And, if those are taken away,
then we have more unemployment in that way.

So, that's actually a big opportunity
in a way, for other ... Plasma Technologies,

to ... become more important
and ... sort of get a footment in the door,

so that these people that... may now
have a necessity for that information,

for that knowledge, for these devices,
and for the health benefits,

and the feeding benefits
and so on and so forth.

When they lose their jobs
and they're looking for something else,

it may be that that's one of the
backup plans that will be helpful for them.

As, as well as the replacement
of the money system,

with the different way of...
of supporting people,

and having them
support themselves and whatnot.

So, these kind of things
seem to be in the pipeline and ready,

ready to ... pipeline so to speak,
speaking of pipelines they're, they're in...

not in good shape right now,
the... the...

Houston is pipeline central of the world,
in terms of refining of oil,

especially for United States,
but also for international companies,

and one third of, or more, of the
production of the US has been taken out,

because of the storm, and it looks like
more might be taken out as well.

And, ... there's also possibilities of
other issues popping up that we have to be,

watching out for in that area.

There's the chemical plant I just read about,
in the last couple of hours,

that they expect, and know and totally
are waiting for this entire chemical plant,

large chemical plant to blow up,
in Southern US.

And they've evacuated within two and a half
kilometers of this... kilometer radius.

of this, oh it's a five miles, or
five kilometers, sorry ... circle, around this,

this factory that produces Peroxide,
and they totally expect it to,

to explode in a big way, like a very,
very large gasoline fire they said.

So, this is the kind of thing
that's happening on the Planet,

but at the same time,
all these urgent situations,

also have a
Silver lining within them,

because as we were discussing
in the last workshop,

the ... the disaster
in the Houston area,

in the Southern US and along the coast
from the Hurricane Harvey,

actually is bringing people together,
and forming ... you know,

at least minor bonds
if not major ones,

with total strangers, that had never
met before the storm,

and suddenly they are helping each other,
lending boats and lending their vehicles,

and trying to get help in and
food supplies, and shelter and so on.

And, neighbors have to help people
that they haven't met before,

or didn't... wouldn't normally
have anything to do with perhaps.

But, yet they're getting along and we even
see animals that are getting along

with Humans that wouldn't normally be and,
even ... perhaps even a few alligators,

climbing into peoples homes,
and whatnot,

but the authorities say,
"Just leave them alone,

and they'll go away
when the water goes back down."

So ... it's surprising actually, how...
what a small loss of life there is so far,

during this major storm,
compared to what it could be,

if people were not more helpful for each other,
and more understanding.

So, it's, it's a good sign
that we do see this cooperation,

rather than... you know, rather than
adding to the, to the catastrophe,

and the... adding
to the stress of the situation.

There's, there's many people
helping out in order to alleviate that.

So... it's good to see there,
Human beings helping each other,

I think that's an indication of... a...
you know, that's what, that's what...

higher life forms do, they either
leave things alone or help when it's urgent,

and it's you know, part of your environment,
to... to help where you can,

It's ... sharing and ... a sense of giving
of ones own energies,

ones own Plasma to the other...
Plasma's out there.

Normally, we talked
about bubbles the other day,

and normally we are all in our own
little bubble and we go about our business,

and we interact with other bubbles
and bump into them at work,

and bump into them when we're shopping,
and bump into them ... as friends and...

Sometimes, we open up our bubbles,
to include other bubbles,

in a more intimate basis and so on,
but basically, we're in our own bubbles.

But, extreme circumstances
of stress and ... especially loss,

when people have lost
everything they own,

and all they have is the wet clothes
on their back essentially and...

and they.... you know, a temporary shelter
to hopefully hang out in,

if not their roof on their
demolished house.

They have a different attitude
at that point,

about who is a friend
and who is their foe?

And, ... whether someones skin color,
really makes the difference,

or whether their religion has anything to do,
whether their... you know,

part of a boat that's coming
to rescue them or whatever.

That's probably one of the last things
that they have in their minds at that time,

and I've seen such expressions
of gratitude and ...

You know, ... people that were...
had just lost everything they own,

but they're just so happy to be rescued,
and their, you know there is one example,

for example in, in ... the Houston area,
I believe it was in... just yesterday.

It was an old folks home that was flooded,
up to about chest level water,

or waist level, and these people
and the odd one where in their wheelchairs,

up to their waists in wheelchairs ...
old folks, up to their waist in wheelchair,

in this sludgy looking,
pretty awful looking water,

with things floating around and whatnot,
and there was about a dozen of them,

and they were waiting for rescue,
and had a picture of them.

It was a pretty desperate situation,
and they did get rescued,

and the after picture was..
the all except one,

and it might, maybe she wasn't
capable of swimming,

but all of these dozen people
had a big smiles on their face,

they were so happy, they were in this
you know, temporary shelter,

but they had dry clothes, they... they
had been saved, they, they were you know...

Here they are, in an old folks home,
near the end of their lives anyway,

and yet, they got through this circumstance,
and they were smiling like they're,

their Soul was coming through,
their essence was coming through,

they were full of gratitude,
they weren't full of resentment,

or you know, anger with the situation,
or, or despair.

They were happy, that they were together,
they were, they made it through as a group,

and it was a big thing.

So, my point is that even under
this really severe circumstances,

and in fact, especially
under this kind of ...

you know, disturbing circumstances
for there's total loss.

There is... it's a... a catalyst,
as Doug puts in the chat,

it's a catalyst for change,
it's a catalyst.

this... these events
are a catalyst for change.

And, if you think about it on the grand scale
with that event in the Southern US.

This huge storm, that they say,
is one in eight hundred

or one in
one thousand year storm.

That it's made a huge change
and will continue to make a huge change,

for years to come, especially now that
people, they have this thing in mind,

of climate change, and,
Man-made climate change especially,

and if Man if it's... if it's true,
I'm not saying it is,

but if it's true that fuel, the burning of fuels
is a big part of our Man-made

climate change,
which has produced this storm,

which has hit most severely
in the oil producing or oil shipping.

As the greatest energy center
of the World essentially,

so it's this... this freak storm
has hit at a very core center

of the energy industry
and of the Space industry.

The Johnson Space Center has been
taken offline in the last few days.

So, some of the weather reports of the area,
have been taken offline,

because they can't access the feed,
from the Johnson Space Center,

from the satellites and ta ta ta ta,
and all of a sudden the

weather channel is
missing some of its...

information for the
storm movement and whatnot.

So... not to mention there's
nuclear reactors... reactor....

nuclear reactor facilities,
that are also involved and so on.

So, a lot of things going on,
but at the same time,

we have this opening up
of people's Souls,

they're become more unveiled
under these circumstances.

Because, normally we're so busy,
going around, doing our thing,

all the little details of life,
and all the distractions

that we don't open up
to each other,

as much as we would
under a stressful situation like that.

Okay, that's what I
wanted to say about that,

I didn't mean to go on
quite so long but, so be it.

Who else, where we have...
we have a couple of attendees.

Alex, I'll promote you to a panelist,
so we see what you would like to say.

(YM) Hello Rick.
(RC) Oh hello Paul.

Do you wanna say something?
(PY) Yeah. I have something to add.

Yes, I have something
to add more.

And when we see the structure
of the World going on now,

their power is essentially
in two points,

technology and manipulation
of intelligence of people.

In somebody, there is these two points,
on which they play with us.

There is no power
without technology.

And when you see, when they go to negotiate
they put in front of them, their technology.

And this technology show that,
they are the most advantage,

or the most intelligent
people than us.

And from there on,
they manipulate us, also know that,

we don't have this capacity and this ability,
to develop this kind of technology.

So, manipulate technology
is the essential point

of the power of this material
world, going on.

Now, by Plasma Technology,
we have also technology to play with them.

We have now technology
to get back our freedom.

And, we are now open in intelligent way
and we have now our intelligence back,

that they can not manipulate
about what is going on.

So, I want to invite us, to now go
on development of this technology.

No one will come and do it for us.
They manipulate us because of their technology.

We have to get alternative technology
to be able to let the technology out,

and then use our technology
to be free.

Otherwise, then will not
freedom come back to us,

if we didn't develop the practical tool,
as technology, to serve us.

So, we have now our intelligence back,
we are now open about what they are doing,

when they want to play with our intelligence,
we have to say to them directly,

that we know what they are doing,
and we have to let them also know that,

we have also technology,
so they have to stop play with us.

And, it is essential,
when you see for example...

Rick have mentioned
about for example,

banking system for Africa. You can send
from Africa to the rest of the World,

any amount of money you want,
but impossible to receive any single money.

If you are not going to
make a different formality...

that they know, that...
this money will not serve you.

They control everything. I am so irritate.
For example, when I see PayPal,

from Africa
any can not receive money.

Except from Kenya
and some two country.

You can not use PayPal to receive any money.
No one can pay you by PayPal.

But you can send by PayPal from Africa,
any amount of money you want.

And when you go back from the,
what you call,

the, the transferring
money system from bank.

There is so limitation, so limitation,
that it is impossible that Africa develop.

It is impossible
that the Third World develop himself.

That's because of technology.
That's they have build it some technology,

and they use
this technology to control us.

Now we need alternative,
we need now for that technology,

to replace their technology,
and then we get back our freedom.

There is the, there is a, there is the
only way that to get this freedom back.

It will not going to be easy.
Because it will not being to go that,

we just say and it's done.
We have to work so hard to build this World

We have to sacrifice ourself from now,
to free the next generation.

And, it is not the problem of one year,
two years, five years, ten years.

It's going to take time,
because we need to develop this technology.

So, we have to sacrifice ourself,
to freedom the next generation.

Don't think about us,
we already lose.

And this is not also lose,
it is just experience,

to understand one kind of
evolution of man, the rubbish of man.

Now we have to freedom Humanity.
They use essentially technology

and manipulation of our intelligence.
We have to stop this.

If everyone use Plasma Technology
to get his health back,

we already paralyze
the pharmaceutic system.

They cannot do nothing.
If we use this Plasma Technology,

to feed, to go our... what you call,
our foods, we take back our freedom,

from all the rubbish they put
in the food system for us.

And now the ... energy part is there.
They cannot do nothing.

So, we have now the practical tool,
but we need hard work.

Hard work, to bring this freedom back.
It is not easy, it is not pop-corn.

We need really, really sacrifice.
We need really hard work.

(RC) Hello Paul, you are still there,
Hello?

(PY) Thank you.
(RC) Think we lost maybe the...

(PY) Hello?
(RC) Did we lose the last sentence perhaps.

(PY) Please?
(RC) Did you... I think we might have lost

the last sentence or two
that you said.

(PY) Yeah, I, I said
that I invite all of us,

to start now to develop this technology,
according to the need from his environment,

to freedom, or to give freedom
to heal environment, to heal society.

This is the way we can put them
out of our control.

We need... to develop practical tool
for every type of needs, in our society.

So, we have everything we now on,
and One Planet, One Race, One Nation,

give us cooperation and collaboration,
to get any type of knowledge,

to be able to make this
in operation.

If you are limited,
this was what I was saying.

If you are limited
because you don't have knowledge,

at the table of One Planet,
there is no limited.

You just ask someone, I have this problem,
how to solve this, you will get the answer,

and then you freedom yourself,
you freedom your society,

you freedom the rest of your society.
There is no borders, there is no limits.

You are not limited.
And you are not limited in intelligence,

you are not limited in the technology.
You just need to put yourself in work.

This is what we have to do from now,
to get this freedom back. Thank you.

(EK) I would like to add something
to Paul's comments. It's okay?

(RC) Sure, go ahead Erick.

(EK) Yes.

We had the teaching Tuesday,
and even though it was said very shortly,

and Mr Keshe mentioned
about the heating system.

And he was also a bit tired in his voice,
and I understand him.

because when I presented
some of this,

I was expecting to see
a lot of discussions about it,

in... in the class chat, and I will not say
I've seen everything,

but I think in the English class chat
that I was almost nothing, if nothing.

In the German, there was some talk about it.
Not much but ... some discussed it.

And now we are back
to the social engineering.

Because, we have been
programmed to think this way.

If you desire something,
a product of some kind,

then you borrow money
and you get it immediately,

and after that you are slave to the bank.
This is how we are programmed.

I want to stress that with the
Keshe Technology it's the opposite.

You have to work first
and then you get it.

And afterwards
you are not a slave.

Two opposites, think about it.

We are so used to just buying,
and then paying interest of the money

we borrowed to get
something immediately.

But consider, the warming
or your house where you live.

A lot of people live in a place,
where it's very cold in the winter.

And if they don't do anything about it,
they will freeze to death.

The worst places.

Then think about how much hours
do you have to go to work,

in order to pay
for heating your house.

And I will say, depending on who you are,
you will have to work between one hour,

and two to three months
of income to heat your house.

Depending on who you are,
if you are the top level of society,

with these hilarious wages
with millions a year,

then you don't have to work much for it and
you don't care because you have enough money.

But, at the lower end of society, where
not lower mentally, but lower income wise,

you have to work a lot,
to get heat in your house.

So, if you are one of the guys,
that have to work maybe one or two months,

to pay the heat in your house,
after all the taxes has been drawn.

Then think about it,
if you join a workshop,

and you learn
how to make a MaGrav,

and you learn to make the few,
the basic four GANSes,

then you have what you need,
to heat your house.

You can just listen
to the latest testimonials,

there you get all the information
you need to do it.

And even if you join some friends,
one take care of the GANSes,

and one take care of learning
how to make the MaGrav,

or even maybe join a workshop where you
get a MaGrav home from the workshop.

Be a bit smart, then you create
an investment for the rest of your life.

And not having to work maybe one or two
months, in order to heat your house.

Isn't that freedom in a way?

You release a lot of time,
that you can use for your own purpose.

Maybe use it for learning how to reduce
your food bills to a minimum,

because you learn to
how to live partly from the fields,

and just a little bit food,
to keep your stomach working.

And when you do
the other things I mentioned,

you have light, electricity
and you have heat in the house.

Two big steps, you also get the GANSes.
You could use some of this time.

You don't have to work in order to,
to heat the house, you could use this,

to learn a little bit
about the medicine.

You can in a very, very basic way,
improve your life if you are in pain,

or suffer from something. Because there
is a lot of recipes on how to mix GANS,

the liquids to drink or to put in patches,
or whatever,

in order to improve your health.

Then you don't have to pay
a lot of money for the medicine.

But again, you have to be aware
of the social engineering.

You have to free your mind
of the programming.

You have to understand,
that in order to get your freedom,

you have to work like Paul said.

Maybe not so hard
in order to help just yourself,

but maybe a bit harder
if you want to help others also.

And you should do.

The worst thing about the health system is,
that we have seen so many bad things,

they add poisons to the vaccines,
for example.

I have read that vaccines are designed
to lower the IQ of a child with twelve.

We have a... a... an autistic son here,
with some limited abilities mentally,

and we have seen,
he was not born an autist,

but he became an autist
right after vaccination.

And now we have used some of the things
we have been taught here in Keshe Foundation,

and he is improving. I expect him
to be almost regenerated within a year.

That will be fantastic. Because
that is another control mechanism.

Many years ago, one child
in one hundred thousand, was an autist.

But then they made
the vaccination program,

and the latest number
I have seen,

is that one child in forty-eight,
in USA, is an autist.

What about if we come
to one to ten?

Then, the whole society could do nothing,
but take care of the autists.

It is another control mechanism.
You have to understand this.

And ... I can only very strongly
advise anyone of you,

to avoid vaccines whenever possible,
because it's bad for you.

Go to the net, study, educate yourself,
because freedom is not for free.

Freedom has a price.
You have to fight for it.

And one of the most important
things you can do for yourself,

and friends, and family and the whole society,
is to educate yourself.

This is what Mr Keshe has
been doing for many years now,

but it's, it's a hard work,
because we are so programmed,

we want the joy first and then
we have to pay the bills afterwards.

We have to change this way of thinking.
That was my comments, thank you.

(RC) Okay, thank you Erick.

Okay, ... any other comments
from our panelists?

(A) Rick may I step forward?
(RC) Sure Alex, yes.

I meant to bring you in there.
(A) Yes, thank you very much.

My name is Alex and I'm from Canada.
My God, this is tough act to follow,

the comments today,
have been absolutely outstanding.

... I think the point that you brought up,
with the people in Houston,

how they're coming
together is ... classic...

classic point that shows
the ... spirit of the Humanity.

And it shows the true spirit of Humanity,
so that clap, brings us to the question,

of, you know, why, why are
things the way they are?

And you know, if the true
spirit of Humanity was so...

the, what we are having right now,
in our ... in our whole Planet actually,

is not in the sync with that.

So, what I'm... what I'm saying is that
this it's taken a disaster, like in Houston,

to, to bring people together, and yet,
and so... so that is the basic spirit.

That is the basic spirit
that is the foundation ... of our Humanity.

Why... why is that absent
in, in the rest of our times?

And you know, is,
is, is that ... unique to Houston?

And the... the previous week
we had the disaster in China,

with over two hundred people
dying I... I believe.

There are disasters
all around the World,

and some we give more attention to
and others less,

but the point of the matter is,
that they all, all of these disasters

bring out the best qualities
in... in the humanity.

So the question I am putting forward is,
you know, "Why are we having what we have?"

And... and the second point that I'd like
to ask about is, is, " We deserve what we get?"

And so, when we take those two things
into consideration,

... adding to what Erik and
and absolutely what, what Paul said,

this is, is magnificent, you know,
we, we do have to work hard,

but we also have to work smart,
and one of the things we have understand,

is, "How smart we really are?"

And, I think what has happened in our history,
we've talked about history today,

is ... when I was younger,
I actually asked the history teacher,

you know, so like why, why are we learning
this type of history?

And, I was hoping for a really good
answer to that and it actually was,

"Well that's just the way we do it."

... That was not an adequate answer,
but I remember that answer vividly,

because it was inadequate.
And now I find out that,

you know, the real reason
that we wanna learn about history,

is because we wanna learn
about the truth.

And when we learn about the truth,
then we learn about the deception,

and when we learn about the deception,
then we get angry.

And I think that's where we're at.
And the point of the matter is,

is that all the participants here today,
have an inspiration enough to show up.

Now this is a twenty-four hour meeting,
you know, for, for...

for us it's in the dead of the night,
and for others is in the Sun of the afternoon.

So, everyone has made a strong commitment
to be here. Because it's important.

And, and why, why is it that important?
Because we have a lacking.

And, and where is that lacking come from?
And so if, if we deserve what we get,

and then we are lacking in understanding,
of what we're getting.

And where does this
lack of understanding come from?

So, we see that the people
who are controlling this Planet,

are quite happy
to be controlling this Planet.

And they are failing to understand
the one important thing,

which the people in Houston
are learning right now.

And that is that, the basic, fundamentals
of the Human spirit, is to help others.

And the reason for that, it's not money,
it's not money.

Tho... those people
who had come in from Louisiana,

and I've seen them broadcast
on... on the TV,

so that's what I'm going by, and I said,
"You know we were in Louisiana,

and we've seen the results and we
were not satisfied with the results,

so we want to be proactive
and we went to Houston,

and we became proactive,
and so we were, we brought our boats,

and we're floating around looking for
people who were waving white towels

and need... need help and we'd bring them
off the roof, and bring them to safety,

and you see how happy they are even despite
the fact that they've lost their possessions.

Which bring me to the next two points.
They did this ... certs...

What, without a financial reward.
Yeah, they did it for free.

It's not for free. The reason is,
is because the are reward that they got

for doing what they're doing
is Soul edifying, it's Soul edifying.

They feel good doing it.
And when they leave,

you know,
money comes and money goes,

but when they leave, they will know
that what they did was Soul edifying.

When we look at the force of action
of the Keshe Foundation,

one of the most important things,
is the health aspect of it.

There are other fields of interest,
but the health aspects of it is

always coming to the foreground.
And the reason for it,

is because when you lose your health
you lose everything.

So, those people who in Houston,
who'd lost all their possessions,

managed to save their lives and,
their health goes with their life, obviously.

So, the... the point is that when
we lose our health we lose everything.

So, conversely when we get our health back
we gain everything.

If we lose our health we lose everything,

if we gain our health then the opposite
must be True, then we gain everything.

And if we have everything that we need
when we have our health,

then we really don't need money.

But as Paul said so eloquently,
you stole my thunder.

"Freedom, we need our freedom."

This whole exercise is about the freedom
and emancipation of Humanity.

And the reason for that freedom,
is because we have a lack

of understanding
of who we really are.

And so the people that control us
play by the same rules

and they don't understand who they are,
that's the problem.

They don't understand who they are.

You can not hurt someone
without hurting yourselves.

So, the rescuers in, in, in Huston
have realized that by helping someone,

they help themselves.

And the people who control
this Planet realise that

by hurting someone
they hurt themselves.

And in order to satisfy themselves,
they have to continue hurting.

So, if it now falls on our shoulders,
that we have to elevate their Souls,

then why are they in charge?

And the reason that they are in charge is
because we've abdicated our responsibility.

And this is exactly what
Lisa has been talking about.

You know, we have a...
we have a responsibility.

And when you look the numbers of
people who are participating in this,

at this point in time we are not taking
our responsibilities serious enough.

People over here are very serious,

but this is far more serious
than what it's representative.

I... I know that there's millions
of people who are listening to this

and they're all taking
it very, very seriously

because what we know is that we
don't know a lot and the more we know

the more we find
out whether we don't know.

In history, it's taught us that,
but what we do know with certainty

is that what we know now and what doing now
is not working and it needs to be fixed.

So, why is it not fixed?

Because, it's our
responsibility to do that.

So, how is it our responsibility
when we are not in control?

Well, the reason for it is
because we have been brainwashed

into believing that we are inadequate.

We've been brainwashed
into believing we cannot do it,

but I think, clearly now that we've
seen the that we can do it.

And so, so what has happened
through this whole exercise is

that we realise that there
are other technologies and,

you know, we have an
educational system that is well entrenched,

well entrenched,
thousands of years going back.

And this educational system has
let us down into believing and understanding

that we only have
a Matter-State capability

and is completely ignoring that
we have a Plasma-State capability

which is totally different, orders of
magnitude far stronger than what we have.

And so we've wasted our time really,
exploring the outer reaches of Matter-State

and as soon as we come to the point
where we're able to go into the next level,

we are either ridiculed, suppressed
or ignored, in some way, some form.

And... and denied access to it.

And one of the ways they deny
access to it is history, money.

So, you know we have technology,
technological advancements

out there that are
always chasing money.

And there's always money out there
looking for advanced technology.

I can never understand ... well in the
environment that I was brought up,

you know, we'd...
we'd try and excel.

You know I was involved in sports

and then when you're
involved in sports you want to win.

So, I could not
understand that money

was seeking technology
to suppress that technology.

To suppress it through
patents and whatnot that would

lock it up for twenty two years
and deny access to the population for it.

I mean, we were
all having flat-screen TV's.

Right now when I remember when I was sixteen,

which is fifty years ago
the announcement of flat-screen TV's.

Fifty years ago, holy cow!

And then I looked at the advance
of the cellphone, back in the 1890's,

1890's Tesla invented the cellphone

and we're so enamored with our
little touch screen cellphones right now.

Which really, really they
are using to control us.

So... so what we have to realise,
that we have greater capability

and in order for us
to fulfill our Soul objective,

I'm talking SOUL,

Soul objective and to satisfy ourselves
and we have to step forward.

We have to realise that there
is more and we have to realise

that it is not satisfying to
be satisfied with what we have.

It is more satisfying to seek.

And that's why this is called the
'Knowledge Seekers Workshop'

It's not the Knowledge Hiders Workshop,

it's not the Knowledge Suppressors Workshop,

is the Knowledge Seekers Workshop,
because what you realise is that,

in order for us to graduate to the next level,
you have to have a basis of knowledge,

our educational system really is based on that
and that part is... is kind of True.

You have to Graduate, as you build you,
you start with the foundation,

you build on it and when you get to the roof,

there's no point worrying about the roof
if you don't have the foundations.

So, the basis knowledge
has to be there.

In order to have that knowledge you
have to know that there is knowledge to seek.

And so the Plasma Technology is not
recognized by science but on April the 18th,

the University of Tokyo findings showed
that not only is the GANS not toxic,

but that Cancer can be eradicated in 3 weeks,
"Oh my God! Really?"

And what do I hear? What do I hear?

"Oh the poor doctors, they will not
be earning their 340,000 dollars"

which is the average cost of
health care in Canada.

Forget about the
poor guy who's paying for it.

The poor doctors.

These doctors have
the same fritiers as we do,

they're humans and they want to help people.

And helping people cut away limbs,
is not helping them.

You know, you meet someone
with a knife in an alley

and he wants to cut you open,
you call him a 'thief', a 'mugger'.

You meet a doctor in the hospital
with a scalpel and not only do we thank him,

but you pay, you pay heavily.

We have an opportunity now,
that's been presented to us, so we know,

we know whats out there.

So we have an opportunity
for a direction to pursue.

The fact that if we know that it's out there
is a really big deal,

because now, forever now, no one can
deny the fact that the Plasma exists.

What we need to understand,
and where we've achieved right now,

according to Mr Keshe's summary.

That you go from
Matter-State to Plasma,

we can also go from
Plasma-State to... back to Matter.

And these skills are
the skills that we have to learn,

and it takes time to learn,
it takes time and effort.

And if you don't put the effort,
well then, we're not going to learn.

Right now, many of us are sitting back
waiting for the others to do it,

because there has always
been a penalty a suppression.

Those who step forwards get hurt.

That's been the history
and the reason for it is

because left hand doesn't know
what the right hand is doing.

But now we have an awareness
this is the beginning,

through our Souls,
that we have a Soul communication.

and you have to understand,
that when the soldiers

go through the flower bed,
can crush all the flowers.

those flowers will be broken,
but you know what,

tomorrow they'll start growing again.

Because, that's the True meaning of Life
and Life wants to Live.

And so the point
that I want to make is that,

we have the capability that we need
and our capability and our understanding

is actually better than
the people who control us.

Because, they have that capability
but what they've realized

is that when they
go to that next step,

they will no longer operate
the way they are operating,

because their Souls
would have to be elevated.

And they really don't want to do that,
because they don't wanna

... re... release their control,
They're too enamored with their control.

And they're afraid to release the control,
then it's too bad for them.

What we have to realise is that we're
better than them and we have the capability,

not only of elevating our
spirits and our Souls,

but we also have the capability
of elevating their Souls.

They may not like it
and that's too bad, you know.

But our freedom is...
is what it's all about.

And, I would just like to add one more point.

We... we are having
assistance from other sources.

We have to have assistance
from other sources,

because we'll blow ourselves up
to smithereens if we didn't.

The question that
has to be asked is,

why are we getting so
much help from other sources?

And the reason is... is because,
we're very very important

and we're failing to see,
how important we really are.

So, this is just
a plume to the next step.

We are all very important,
not only on our Planet,

because we are the ones
who're gonna save this Planet

because the Planet belongs to us.

But, it's important for us to
participate in the rest of the Universe,

and the rest of the Universe
is waiting for us to catch up.

And I think, when we start to
realise how important that is,

then we'll start to
get the surge that we need.

But we're on the right path and so I just
wanna finish off on the positive note,

and say, "All of us as Souls,
we need to understand

that we need to progress
for our freedom,

and our freedom is... is the progression."
Thank you very much.

(RC) Very good.
Thank you Alex.

Okay ... think we're gonna
have to wrap up fairly soon here.

Are there any... is there anybody else
who'd like to come forward

with a comment,
to pull things together here?

(DM) Devotional service.

(RC) Devotional service,
... is that it Doug?

(DM) Yep.
(RC) There's not many words

did we already
get through them today?

(DM) Devotional service.
It's the key and it's the answer.

(RC) And what was the question?
(chuckles)

Just to remind people.

Well, thank you, that's
a good suggestion actually.

I was gonna sugg... also suggest
that the ... the mood of gratitude is

... it seems like a practical way
to proceed there as well.

(RC) You can tie it up in a simple...
a simple thing... a simple statement.

Or a simple intention,
and I reckon devotional service is good.

It has deep meaning and we've
had people talk about it all night

and, it's the way I've been taught
and the way I've ... understood things and

now it's coming to fruition
and it's absolutely beautiful.

(RC) Okay, I've got a question for you then,
because I know

a bit about a country family
you've been associated with ...

Eastern philosophies and Indian, kinda thing...
(AM) Yes

Yeah.

(RC) What about devotional service
as was mentioned with the Rashid there earlier.

(AM) Yep
(RC) with these Gurus in India and so on,

that they're families or...
the ... various people under those Gurus ...

have they would say, they have
devotional service to them.

And because of that devotional service...
and the same could be said for

... maybe, you know, Catholics in
a church in North America somewhere.

(AM) Yep
(RC) They have devotional service toward their ...

bishop or for their priest
or whatever religion is involved.

But especially with a personal relationship
with a Guru type

or minister
or priest of some sort.

What about devotional service
in that sense...

many people would take
those words that way... for that...

more of a personal relationship, where
they're devoted to the Guru you could say.

But at the same time the Guru
may be a pedophile or...

or... you know abusing some
of the children in the community.

How do you reconcile that?
(AM) Well

(RC) those words.
I'm...

(AM) Yep
(RC) I'm afraid that some

people can take it that way and I know
you don't mean it anywhere near that way.

(AM) No, no.
... There comes a point in anybodies ...

devotional service where they may realise
that ... they need to change their service

and their intentions
and their attitudes at a Soul level.

So, if they see certain

things manifesting in their ...
life their Guru ...

they can make a decision and it
doesn't mean that they throw everything

that they've received away,
they simply change course.

They set a new course or a new intention,

not ... giving up all the old experiences
or the experiences,

but, they just set a new course
adding onto what they've already learned

and it creates a pathway

that we must learn to control
or have our intentions set,

so that we are going
in a certain direction.

And Gurus,
or teachers help us

set our course
and they come in all places

and in all times and
they're there to give us directions.

And they're not just one fixed Physicality,

they are actually, the creator coming
to us to help us.

And we take their
advise and we move forward,

and whether we go
into the spans of the Universe

and the Universes and
beyond, they are always with us,

They're always guiding us and we
are taking their advice,

in humility.

And their advice is,
"If you serve, if you give, you will receive."

You'll receive everything you need,
everything you want and even if your a

a bird in a tree, or a worm in the ground
or an atom,

you're happy being in that situation,
because you've got everything you need,

and if you Wish to change position
you can,

at any time.

Without stress, without fear

and that is a state of bliss,
blissful existence.

And, in my understanding,
that is

the spiritual world,
not the material world.

And Mr Keshe
and his knowledge

is showing us how to

transmute Matter,

material World
into Spiritual world.

And I'm just so happy, that the knowledge
has come to this... this place.

I've been waiting

so long

and I have a picture of my Guru
on the wall behind me

and

he was a philosopher

not a scientist

and he was always saying he wanted
a scientist, an honest scientist,

to come forward
and prove scientifically

all of the mystic powers
that a person can have

and all of the wonderful stories
coming from ancient times,

that people thought
were myths and legends.

He said they were
actual historical events and...

and his picture is up behind me on
the wall and he printed or printed books

in his time, trying to spread
this devotional service

One Planet, One Nation, One Race.
Let's all join together

and now it's happening.

It happened then,
it's happening now,

Mosfeq, I think from Bengal

told the story of how, by joining together
and learning from each other,

we grow in knowledge,

we break down all the differences

and we benefit every...
everyone.

And that's all I've got to say really,
I think it's just wonderful, I like.

I really appreciate everyone,

I love you all so much

and I'm happy to be a part of this,
because it's perfection in action.

(RC) Very good thank you Doug.

... Armen did you want to say something,
your mike's open there.

(AG) Hello

(RC) Hi Armen.

(AG) Hello guys, how are you?

(RC) Good

(AG) Well, I listened lot of, you know,
beautiful talks, you know,

but still we're forgetting how to simplify
things and how to not to complicate so much

that we can understand deeper
... points of the knowledge.

If our understanding in our Souls,
in our brain cells, you know in reality how,

understand how to make
and how to create the Fields that we see,

That its all around us,
so if we understand

that the light
becomes a Matter

and the Matter we can turn it
back to the light, meaning energy.

So, then things can be very simple
and we can move one,

from the fallacies that we are learning now,
that its so much wrong in it,

but we have to still, you know,
learn and read all these books

and all learn in school and slowly
when we're understanding that it's simple,

so, we can simplify ourselves.

The point is, I will answer any questions
if you have, you know, according

... to your understanding that
we can clarify a lot of things.

Anybody wants to ask a question?

No questions?

Or everybody's tired?

(RC) Tough crowd here Armen. ...

(AG) Why it's tough?

(RC) Well, they're quiet.

In a... for a...
If you were a comedian,

then it would be
a dead airtime there.

It'd be... called
the 'tough crowd'.

(AG) Without good laugh,
you know nothing moves. Huh?

(GM) I have a question
for you Armen .

(AG) I'm listening

(GM) Okay, first of all thank you very much.
... For all your input.

Now... a lot of us,
or a lot of people do not know...

... how to use their Soul,
in a ways that they understand

(AG) Uh-hm

(GM) Or how to find their Soul easily
(AG) Uh-hm

(GM) Your very advanced in Plasma science
(AG) Uh-hm

(GM) it would be ... very much appreciated
if you could explain that,

So that a lot of people understand how
to find their Soul and how to use it.

(AG) You know, I can add ...
there's how to find your Soul Mr Gatua

but you ask me that questions many times.
You know, you have to find it yourself.

And all the best training
that Mr Keshe show sometimes, I do.

Even when you put a, you know,
a headphones and try to put a certain music

that you can listen not inside your ears
but inside your head,

and slowly you can understand that,
you know, that pressure goes to your Soul

and ... you can find your Soul easily.
Without your Soul you're not operational.

So, you're asking me a question,
how to find your Soul, I don't know.

I found mine, long time ago

(GM) Okay. Don't explain how to...
I will find mine, tell us how you found yours.

(AG) I really can not answer that question,
everybody have to find their Soul their own way.

But if you're asking me how to find your Soul,
just, you know simply, just put the headphones

and, put certain hertz that there's lots
in ... YouTube you can find it,

and... and you can slowly understand
where your Soul located.

Because you're not gonna hear from your ears,
you're gonna hear the music in your head.

The point, there is a point.
And ...

One minute, let me show you a picture
if I can.

Position of the Soul.

Give me a second Mr Gatua,
I'll show you where your Soul sits.

(GM) No problem, no problem,
thank you very much.

(RC) I see Herbert has his microphone open
as well and I know you ...

I promoted you to
panelist earlier but, and then...

(HB) Yeah.

(RC) we started hearing from Armen.

(AG) One minute.

(HB) Yeah. Can I come in now?
Herbert speaking, can you hear me?

(RC) Yeah, were still trying to, we're still
waiting for something from Armen here..

(HB) Okay.
(AG) One minute.

(HB) Okay I'm waiting.

(AG) Can I share the screen?

(RC) Yes go ahead.

(AG) Mr Gatua, this is the scan
of the brain and if you..

(RC) ... Armen could you show the picture
and not your whole desktop please?

(AG) Sure no problem. Yeah.
(RC) Okay great.

(AG) If you pay attention there is a point in...
in here... Where is it?

Here!

If you look at it,
this is where your Soul sits Mr Gatua.

(GM) Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.

(GM) Okay. So,
it's the empty space that you see,

that's where the Fields
are holding in.

And I can show you
a different picture.

One Minute.

(GM) Sure go ahead,
I want to see them all.

(AG) If I stop share for ...

Here can you see?

(GM) Yes please?

(AG) This is where your Soul sits,
in between half of your brain.

(GM) I appreciate that very much.

(AG) And that's why... that's why
when you put your headphones around your ears,

which are located here, you can hear
the music vibration in your head.

So, now your not hearing with your ears,
or you're hearing, where is it, in your head.

I've done it many times actually.
And it's there.

(GM) I appreciate ... very much.
(AG) Your welcome.

(GM) Thank you.

(AG) Anybody else?

(RC) Well we have ... a question from Steve
in the Livestream,

"Will the method on making
Deuterium, Tritium and Hydrogen GANS,

be on the Keshe Wiki soon,
or is the method still being refined?"

(AG) Just ... you know, here.
You have to understand what we are creating,

I am very sorry I'm drawing it with my finger,
so it's very hard to draw.

If you have your plates.

Let's do different colors.

If you have your plates for CO2 box,
and just consider,

what kind of elements
you have around it,

what kind of elements
you have in this environment?

You have ... Copper, you have Zinc,
you have Carbon and CH bond actually,

your box.

So, anything that you creating in here,
because your creating magnet of

... material meaning Carbon, CO2.
Just consider how you are creating,

because a plate, here is Zinc and a Copper,
which the... one is Nano-coated,

You create a magnet of Carbon.

That's why you bringing it
from environment.

From outside,
and from your box too.

Don't forget, you have a Carbon,
now you created magnet.

That's why you have so many
GANS created under it,

which is near Carbon Field.

So, if you create CH3

and you put in a box,
which have no Carbon connection,

and you close the top,
... still you create a Field,

of eight, Carbon, 'C', that we...
and you put, anything you put here

with the CH3 that you put over here,
so you will absorb the Carbon,

and H3 is left.

Because, now you are dealing with the Fields
and the Fields are different huh?

If you create a magnet of the Field
so, whatever is that environment,

because now it's a closed environment,
you're not bringing anything from outside.

So, you absorb the Field of the Carbon
still in the saltwater.

So, pure H3 is left.
A Field of it.

Now if you add in a tank, Hydrogen,
or even Oxygen,

you create different with it,
you create H2.

Now it's Atomic H huh?
Not this in this box, actually CH3 box.

Where you're put your mesh, Iron,
and your Nano-coated material.

Sorry for the drawings guys,
it's very hard.

I don't have a pen.

So, in this environment if you put
a release of Hydrogen,

now you are creating a Field
of magnet of Hydrogen so,

Atomic Hydrogen it converts
to Hydrogen. Field of it.

So you have to understand
what you are creating,

what kind of magnets you are creating,
but because now you have,

just remember, out of the Fields
you have the Matter.

Now, if you have two Matters,
they interact.

Out of the Fields of this two Matters,
you create a Field of the Material.

This is, we've done it with CO2 box,
we've done it with CH3 box,

we've done it with ... Zinc box,
and the rest what we create.

If we put two Zinc plates, one Nano-Coated,
one Nano Coated,

You create here a Zinc.

Field of it.

Because this each GANS, they're,
now they carry individual Zinc Field.

So now you have the millions,
but if you only had a plate,

but now you have millions of it,
which the same strength of Zinc.

Lot of people they don't understand you know,
how, what do you need to use for your body.

To have a match.

What kind of GANS you are using,
at what kind of

combination of the GANS
you are using, what for?

Only thing you have to remember,
Hydrogen which is Acidic, giver,

(AG) Any more questions,
or it's getting late?

(GM) Yes Armen, I have a...
I have a question.

(AG) Really? No problem.
(GM) Oh yes, yes, yes always.

Always I have question for you.
(AG) [laughing]

(GM) You explained very, very well
how to create Tritium.

But, you could you expand this and show,
as clearly as you showed how to create Tritium,

and the process of creating...
I believe Deuterium is very easy,

because in CH3
you have Deuterium.

So, it's the Hydrogen
that your drawing did not explain.

(AG) What you mean, I not explain?
(GM) My understanding is that ...

you showed very
well how to create Tritium.

(AG) Aha.

(GM) Okay? I also understand
that once you create CH3,

you already have Deuterium,
because CH3 can also be written as CHD.

Which is Trit.. which is Deuterium. Then
how do you create Hydrogen, just Hydrogen

in this .. box?

(AG) Okay, you remember
Coca-Cola box?

(GM) Yes, but I believe
that Mr Keshe has said

you could create Hydrogen
in the, in the, in this CO2...

Just the way
you created CH3?

(AG) Just put an environment,
gas of Hydrogen.

(GM) But explain, even with
the Coca-Cola box, ... I mean bottle,

but, which one is easier,
from your experience?

(AG) No, there is... No, I will, I will
explain now the difficult part of it.

(GM) Okay, that's... I'm okay with that.
(AG) [laughing]

Difficult part of it, if you understand
the same thing, if you have this box.

And this box in not Carbon, huh?
It could be a fish tank,

... you don't have a Carbon environment.
Guys, you have to understand,

when you open a Magnetic Field,
whatever is in your environment,

just consider it, don't look at it,
though it's there, it's okay.

So consider it, that you know what kind of Fields
you are creating, opening it up.

Otherwise, it will not be there,
the knowledge will not be there.

If you don't pay attention
small things like this.

Because just understand again,
from the Fields you create the Matter.

Out of interaction of the Sun and Earth,
we absorb certain matters

when it enters the atmosphere.
Then they convert this Field,

it's gonna be Gold,
or it's gonna be Silver.

Now, the same thing is in your box.
This is your box of creation of the Fields.

That's why you put two plates.

So, if you put this and you put
the Coca-Cola bottle in it,

and just understand,
now you are dislocating the Carbon.

And this is CH bond.

So if you dislocate Carbon,
Hydrogen releases.

So you collect it in your bottle.
The residuals you gonna see it,

it's gonna be 'H'.

(GM) This is very interesting Armen and,

is this box one for creating CH3
or for creating Carbon?

(AG) Doesn't matter you choose the box
to create a Carbon Field.

Like as you're creating CH... CO2.
It's the same thing.

You create the magnet of it,
that's why you absorb.

(GM) Okay. Thank you
very much ... Armen.

(AG) You're welcome.

Any more questions, or it's late?

Hello?

Rick? Are you there?
(RC) Hi Armen. ...

(RC) We have one question in the
Livestream chat, it's an easy one for you.

LightBullet says, "I was creating CO2 GANS,
but it turned out not white, but greenish bluish.

And the Nano Copper is turning back into
Copper color. Is that the CO2 GANS I created?"

(AG) It's still you carry CO2 Field,

but it's more of a Copper residual
that you released into it,

it's because of your Nano-coating,
it's not firmly done,

or ... I don't know
how you create your box?

Most... sometimes, you know, it happens,
but still you create a Carbon Field.

But most of it the Copper releases, so
you have a Copper there too, don't forget.

(RC) Okay.
(AG) This is what we have to understand.

In this material,
what we hang in the salt water,

out of their interaction you create,
you absorb the Field,

because now
it's in a Plasmatic condition.

You create the flow, huh?
One is in a higher, because it's Nano,

one is in a lower,
because is in a Matter.

So, out of their interaction,
you create a CO2 here.

A magnet, you create a magnet.
A Field.

This is hard, I know some people
it's hard to understand,

but if you, if you think correctly,
that's what it is.

If our Earth composition
was little bit different,

from the beginning of the journey,
when it started its Life,

it will... we will absorb totally different
... materials now.

(RC) ... Armen, maybe the question
from Trevor would be helpful ...

He says, "Armen,
I'd like to know what we can do,

to create these results in our body,
instead of outside of it."

(AG) It's an understanding.
If you have and understanding,

then it's with your Wish actually,
that's how you create the rest.

If you hold your palms together, one it's
one plate, second one it's second plate.

So, if you understand your part of you,
it's your birth.

It's your Soul.

This, you know it's a, it's little bit early
to go to that stage,

but this is slowly we have to understand
what are our interaction we can get,

what kind of Field
we can create.

Then, maybe we can learn
how to do that with our Souls.

Or, from the beginning
you can do that, depends.

(RC) ... Crasmir asks, "Does that mean
that your body is the salt condition?"

(AG) ??? Definitely you carry twelve salts
as we are talking about that, huh?

(RC) Huh-hm.
(AG) Not twelve salts but,

our salinity is near of Earth's salinity,
that we can sustain.

(RC) And we all know
about the saline solution,

that they give in the hospital, I think
it's for shock and for other conditions,

they add a saline solution,
salt solution to your blood.

(AG) You cannot convert
a Matter without salt.

Anymore questions?

There is...

(RC) ... We have a question from Valerie,
just a second here.

Hello Valerie?

(VZ) Yeah Hi, can you hear me?

(RC) Yes.

(VZ) Hi ... Hi Armen I have the question about
... the coke bottle that you just drew.

Is this coke bottle empty
or is it filled with the salt solution

or just with distilled water?

(AG) No caustic solution.

(VZ) Caustic solution?

(AG) Yeah.

(VZ) So it's in a salt solution
and inside you have caustic?

(AG) Correct

(VZ) Thank you so much.

(AG) Your welcome.

That's why in time
your thread is gone.

So, because you converting now
atomic Hydrogen to the Plasmatic. Huh?

Because you're
dislocating the Carbon.

Same thing you can
do with the pins of ...

this is the coke bottle.

Same thing if you create
the pins over here, power chutes.

You're still creating
the same dislocation.

(RC) So, what would you say
to Trevor who says,

"Now that you've spoken that these
results can be created in our bodies",

he says "So this needs to be elaborated
and illustrated for better understanding,

instead of creating
these conditions in plastic boxes"

How would you
reply to that Armen?

(AG) You know what,
there are seven billion of us.

So, if every seven billion will understand,
then we are correct.

But, you know, we try to, you know,
teach different ways that a lot of people

they understand whatever their understanding
will allow them to understand.

If you tell someone you can
just hold and create apple in your hand,

they will laugh at you and say,
"You are out of your mind."

And if I create two reactors and create,
you know, any material in front of them,

then they will start to pay attention,
what we are talking about.

Because, we were not educated in this Field
and it's hard for us to grasp it sometimes,

but when you grasp it, then it
will be easier for you to do.

So, we are not going only one way,
and teaching only one way to the people.

We are trying to teach ...
differently that they understand.

Maybe one day they can use it,
or they will grasp it,

"Okay, that's something I can do
with my Soul, my Soul is in control."

That's all.

This is materialistic you know we're trying
to bring in a commercial side that,

you know, a lot of people
they put the patch,

or direct the Pen and
they reduce the pain.

If you understand the combination
what you can do and then you can do it.

But if you tell them that okay,
forget about everything, you know,

just think that,
"Okay I can an apple."

Maybe in other time, or two hundred years
they need to grasp this knowledge.

Otherwise they will say that
you are one of the lunatics.

(RC) There's a bunch of scratching
in your microphone ... Armen.

Can you fix that please?

(AG) No problem. I did that...

(RC) ...
(JG) I have a question Armen, ... sorry Rick.

(RC) Okay, go ahead.

(JG) Thank you Rick ...
Hello Armen, it's Jalal here

(AG) Uh-huh

(JG) ... If you ... extract the
Carbon from the CH3,

which color you will...
you will get?

(AG) What do you mean?
(JG) Because, we are doing that

but we don't know
which color we will have.

(AG) But, still if you have a understanding,
you already understand what you've done,

So why you worry
about the color,

is too blackish or reddish
or greenish or whatever?

If you created ... CH3 in a proper way,
so now you understand that this GANS

you collected from the bottom
are near Carbon and...

because you have a Zinc
on top of your Iron you created

Carbon and Hydrogen,
actually Field.

Because, this GANS they carry it,
because you...

you created the magnet of it,
to create that Field.

(JG) Yes, ...
we are doing that and ...

we understand that we
are making the Fields of the...

extracting the Carbon from the CH3.

(AG) It depends on what's
in your environment, how...

Okay if you are closing on top of your box,
or are not closing it properly, your box.

Or you are producing in a glass box or
you are producing in a carbon box.

There are many things
that you have to consider again.

What kind of box you are using?

Because this box becomes the environment
of whatever you want to create.

So if you... if you put here
a different materials,

so you're not gonna get CO2,
you're gonna get something else.

(JG) You know that...
that's why I'm asking.

Because before...
the... the black stuff.

The Deuterium what we are sowing before,
then we know this then Deuterium.

So... we should not throw it away.
That's why I'm asking.

(AG) It's up... sometimes
it comes yellowish color,

sometimes it comes little bit
reddish color, so it depends.

Depends again,
how you create it.

I cannot tell you exactly
this color it will be but,

look at the yellowish color
and reddish color.

(JG) Okay, it's depend
in the time also?

How much time you ...
leave it to the processing.

(AG) No, no, no, no, no actually.
No, the time is instant. Huh?

You know if you touch your body,
you're instantly feeling that.

Not feeling after you touch
your finger on another finger

and the information
after a year your receiving.

(JG) Yeah, yeah.
(AG) It's instant transfer.

So, it's a Plasma.

So a bit... it's not something that you have
to wait and, you know, pray for it, no.

If you... if you know that you
create the magnet of it, so you consider,

"Okay, I create the magnet of Carbon,
now I'm gonna extract the Carbon

from whatever material I put it in,
it will be extracted."

Because, you are the one who creates. Huh?
(JG) Okay

Okay, because ... the ...
the experiment what Jon ...

he done for the Hydrogen, it took about
two weeks, you know ... and more of that.

That's why I'm
asking about the time.

(AG) You can split it up,
you can create it slowly,

but if you understand that
you are creating magnet of it.

So you can see there, "Okay,
I created this material inside,

because I know from my teachings, that
if I put Zinc and Copper I create CO2."

"If I put Zinc and Zinc,
I create Zinc Field.

If I put a Copper and Copper
I created CU Field."

So these things already,
like we teach it a lot,

and years but people
still not grasping it,

because, you know, they've not been
educated that way and it's probably dreams.

But still, that's why we're slowly going and
opening slowly, that people can understand.

You have to educate surrounding you,
that then they can use the rest.

(JG) Yeah

(AG) Otherwise, why you doing it?

(JG) You are right.
We need to understanding.

(AG) And when your are
confident and you know,

"Yeah Okay, I created this",
then you put in your balls

or you put in a structure,
that you create a Field out of it.

(JG) Right, thank you Armen.

(AG) You're welcome.

Anymore questions?
(RC) ... It's a question from Steve,

"Should the box be Nano-coated first, so
to create an isolation from outside Fields?"

(AG) Okay yeah, making GANS
or making Nano-Material?

(RC) Well, I think since
we were talking about the GANS,

I think that's what
he's referring to?

(AG) In GANS, if you use the box
that you already Nano-coated,

so ... that box you can use it
to create a CO2 or any,

because its' already Nano-coated.
Huh? Sometimes....

(RC) Surely it's best to have a
Nano-coated box for the ... for the...

(AG) Yeah, yeah. Just understand you have to...
you're creating a Plasmatic condition.

So, if you Nano-coat this box
that's mean from Carbon,

you released it and now
you have this gap and hole.

Now the environment is not the same
as a Matter, it is an environment,

it's like our total
Plasma environment.

Because, now you put... even the metal
you put inside it's because the water now,

you have one Nano-coated material,
this environment is total Plasmatic condition.

It's not anymore Matter condition,
because if you put the food,

the minute your food goes into your mouth,
it's already in a Plasmatic condition.

It has to.

(RC) Will that be enough to create ...
the Nano-coating

on the box if it was not
Nano-coated beforehand.

(AG) You can, yes. Nano-coat it before,
and ... I always do.

I always use the boxes
that I Nano-coat several times,

then I use it
as a GANS production.

(RC) Okay
(AG) It's already there.

I can say what I ca...
what I'm doing. So...

(RC) There is a question from
... 2Guy who asks ...

"How do you wash the materials
that are Nano-Coated with caustic?"

(AG) Okay, use sonic.
(RC) Use? Pardon me?

(AG) Sonic, there is a ...
there is a sonic (inaudible)

(RC) Sonic... sonic cleaner
your talking about?

(AG) Yeah! Yeah, hang...
hang you plates there

(RC) Okay
(AG) a few minutes and ...

(RC) In distilled water I guess?
(AG) Distilled water are good, yeah definitely.

(RC) Yeah.
(AG) Which is best way to do it.

(RC) Some people have talked about
multiple washings.

(AG) Yes, you do multiple washing
but when you do sonics,

or you consider
that everything works in a caustic.

If you're gonna take it out.
(RC) Uh-hm

(AG) Still, a logo just remember
that your plate is still gonna carry,

you know,
caustic Field NaOH.

If you put KOH in there,
still that plate gonna carry as a Field,

you don't have a material now
but because you create it in the Plasmatic

... you open up a Plasma now that...
because in this environment,

when you Nano-coat it,
you put your plates and for Nano-coating.

Consider again
what kind of materials do you have in here?

Because this Nano-coating material,
they're gonna carry that Field now.

From... from the beginning
you can determine exactly what you wanna create.

There are certain techniques.

Okay?

(VZ) ... Hi Amen, I have another question,
if I may?

(AG) I know I'm not gonna sleep tonight,
but it's okay. (chuckles)

(VZ) No but you can go,
it's... it's...

if you don't want to answer
(AG) No it's okay, no,

no, no, no, no, no Good,
I'm good.

(VZ) Alright. ....
Just if you mind expanding a little bit

on how to converting Fields into Matter
in a stationary reactor, like in a box?

Because, Mr Keshe once explained
that you don't need the dynamic cores

and have it so complicated,
you can just make it in a... in a box,

like we make C02.

(AG) Question one more time,
maybe it's late I could not understand.

Can you
just repeat it one more time?

(VZ) ... I mean that ...
Mr Keshe once explained

that we don't have to make things complicated
to create Matters,

that we can do this in just a...
a stationary reactor, like in a CO2 box,

just with plates.
Maybe GANS coat them differently?

(RC) Isn't that what's done
in the CO2 kit?

(VZ) Well yeah, but ...
to a Matter-State to create Matter

(RC) Was there CO2 Matter there before?
(VZ) I... I don't understand?

(RC) Was the CO2 Matter there before,
the box and the plates were put together?

Did it... was there anything
in the solution that you could see,

wasn't it clear salt condition,
we didn't see any ... CO2 in it to start with?

We put the plates in, it...
the Plasma Fields create the Matter.

Do they not?

(VZ) Yeah, that is true, but that is
fourth-state of Matter. Isn't that right?

I'm talking more about if we want
to create the actual material Zinc

in a CO2 box or in,
in a salt solution.

(RC) You already have Zinc.
(AG) You already have a Zinc.

(RC) Why would you wanna create Zinc?
(VZ) Yes

Let's say...
let's change word to 'replicate'.

If we would like
to replicate the Zinc

and create the actual Zinc
instead of Zinc in GANS form,

but Zinc in Matter-State.

(AG) For me I cannot understand,
maybe I'm not ...

(VZ) It's Okay.

Because, I'd like from...
(RC) ... two plates that were not Zinc

to create Zinc out of... out of a kit... of a...
a Plasma kit is that what you mean?

That from two other...
(VZ) Maybe...

(RC) The difference between them
would create Zinc.

(VZ) Well, maybe yes, Well, what I'm thinking is
if we take two Nano-coated plates

and put it in salt solution but we GANS-coat
the Nano-coated plates differently.

Maybe with Hydrogen and Tritium,
so we will have a difference,

and in between we maybe can dictate
what kind of material or Matter we will have.

Or if we GANS coat it with just
Hydrogen and Carbon, on two difference.

So we can ...
try to create elements of the Board?

(AG) Really ... Maybe we will
answer it next time, but truly it's late.

Rick can we end up?
(RC) Yeah sure. I think it's probably...

It's a good question
for next time though,

because how do we create
Matter with the Fields.

So, it's a good question.
Anyway we do need to wrap things up here.

We're gone almost 5 hours, so it's
quite a long time for our production crew.

... So, maybe we can get Flint to ...
wrap things up now with our...

our, what is now our
usual musical interlude.

(FM) Sure, no problem.

(RC) Okay, thank you everybody for today
(AG) Good night guys.

(RC) work... are you okay there Armen?
(AG) No, I said good night.

(RC) Oh, okay. And ...
this has been the

187th Knowledge Seekers Workshop
for August 31st 2017.

Thank you everybody for attending.