A universal translator for surgeons
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0:00 - 0:04So I want to talk to you about two things tonight.
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0:04 - 0:06Number one:
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0:06 - 0:10Teaching surgery and doing surgery
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0:10 - 0:12is really hard.
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0:12 - 0:13And second,
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0:13 - 0:16that language is one of the most profound things
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0:16 - 0:19that separate us all over the world.
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0:19 - 0:21And in my little corner of the world,
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0:21 - 0:23these two things are actually related,
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0:23 - 0:25and I want to tell you how tonight.
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0:25 - 0:29Now, nobody wants an operation.
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0:29 - 0:33Who here has had surgery?
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0:33 - 0:34Did you want it?
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0:34 - 0:36Keep your hands up if you wanted an operation.
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0:36 - 0:38Nobody wants an operation.
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0:38 - 0:41In particular, nobody wants an operation
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0:41 - 0:46with tools like these through large incisions
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0:46 - 0:48that cause a lot of pain,
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0:48 - 0:52that cause a lot of time out of work or out of school,
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0:52 - 0:54that leave a big scar.
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0:54 - 0:57But if you have to have an operation,
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0:57 - 1:00what you really want is a minimally invasive operation.
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1:00 - 1:02That's what I want to talk to you about tonight --
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1:02 - 1:04how doing and teaching this type of surgery
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1:04 - 1:06led us on a search
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1:06 - 1:08for a better universal translator.
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1:08 - 1:11Now, this type of surgery is hard,
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1:11 - 1:14and it starts by putting people to sleep,
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1:14 - 1:16putting carbon dioxide in their abdomen,
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1:16 - 1:18blowing them up like a balloon,
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1:18 - 1:23sticking one of these sharp pointy things into their abdomen --
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1:23 - 1:27it's dangerous stuff --
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1:27 - 1:32and taking instruments and watching it on a TV screen.
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1:32 - 1:34So let's see what it looks like.
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1:34 - 1:35So this is gallbladder surgery.
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1:35 - 1:37We perform a million of these a year
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1:37 - 1:40in the United States alone.
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1:40 - 1:42This is the real thing. There's no blood.
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1:42 - 1:45And you can see how focused the surgeons are,
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1:45 - 1:47how much concentration it takes.
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1:47 - 1:49You can see it in their faces.
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1:49 - 1:55It's hard to teach, and it's not all that easy to learn.
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1:55 - 1:57We do about five million of these in the United States
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1:57 - 2:03and maybe 20 million of these worldwide.
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2:03 - 2:06All right, you've all heard the term:
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2:06 - 2:07"He's a born surgeon."
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2:07 - 2:11Let me tell you, surgeons are not born.
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2:11 - 2:14Surgeons are not made either.
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2:14 - 2:18There are no little tanks where we're making surgeons.
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2:18 - 2:22Surgeons are trained one step at a time.
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2:22 - 2:26It starts with a foundation, basic skills.
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2:26 - 2:31We build on that and we take people, hopefully, to the operating room
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2:31 - 2:33where they learn to be an assistant.
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2:33 - 2:35Then we teach them to be a surgeon in training.
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2:35 - 2:38And when they do all of that for about five years,
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2:38 - 2:41they get the coveted board certification.
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2:41 - 2:44If you need surgery, you want to be operated on
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2:44 - 2:46by a board-certified surgeon.
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2:46 - 2:48You get your board certificate,
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2:48 - 2:51and you can go out into practice.
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2:51 - 2:55And eventually, if you're lucky, you achieve mastery.
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2:55 - 2:59Now that foundation is so important
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2:59 - 3:01that a number of us
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3:01 - 3:04from the largest general surgery society in the United States, SAGES,
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3:04 - 3:07started in the late 1990s a training program
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3:07 - 3:12that would assure that every surgeon who practices minimally invasive surgery
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3:12 - 3:16would have a strong foundation of knowledge and skills
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3:16 - 3:19necessary to go on and do procedures.
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3:19 - 3:23Now the science behind this is so potent
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3:23 - 3:27that it became required by the American Board of Surgery
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3:27 - 3:30in order for a young surgeon to become board certified.
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3:30 - 3:34It's not a lecture, it's not a course,
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3:34 - 3:37it's all of that plus a high-stakes assessment.
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3:37 - 3:40It's hard.
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3:40 - 3:43Now just this past year,
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3:43 - 3:46one of our partners, the American College of Surgeons,
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3:46 - 3:48teamed up with us to make an announcement
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3:48 - 3:51that all surgeons should be FLS (Fundamentals of Laparoscopic Surgery)-certified
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3:51 - 3:54before they do minimally invasive surgery.
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3:54 - 3:58And are we talking about just people here in the U.S. and Canada?
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3:58 - 4:00No, we just said all surgeons.
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4:00 - 4:04So to lift this education and training worldwide
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4:04 - 4:06is a very large task,
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4:06 - 4:10something I'm very personally excited about as we travel around the world.
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4:10 - 4:14SAGES does surgery all over the world, teaching and educating surgeons.
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4:14 - 4:18So we have a problem, and one of the problems is distance.
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4:18 - 4:21We can't travel everywhere.
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4:21 - 4:23We need to make the world a smaller place.
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4:23 - 4:26And I think that we can develop some tools to do so.
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4:26 - 4:30And one of the tools I like personally is using video.
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4:30 - 4:32So I was inspired by a friend.
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4:32 - 4:35This is Allan Okrainec from Toronto.
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4:35 - 4:37And he proved
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4:37 - 4:42that you could actually teach people to do surgery
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4:42 - 4:44using video conferencing.
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4:44 - 4:49So here's Allan teaching an English-speaking surgeon in Africa
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4:49 - 4:51these basic fundamental skills
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4:51 - 4:54necessary to do minimally invasive surgery.
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4:54 - 4:55Very inspiring.
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4:55 - 4:59But for this examination, which is really hard,
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4:59 - 5:02we have a problem.
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5:02 - 5:05Even people who say they speak English,
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5:05 - 5:07only 14 percent pass.
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5:07 - 5:09Because for them it's not a surgery test,
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5:09 - 5:13it's an English test.
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5:13 - 5:15Let me bring it to you locally.
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5:15 - 5:16I work at the Cambridge Hospital.
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5:16 - 5:20It's the primary Harvard Medical School teaching facility.
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5:20 - 5:25We have more than 100 translators covering 63 languages,
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5:25 - 5:30and we spend millions of dollars just in our little hospital.
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5:30 - 5:32It's a big labor-intensive effort.
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5:32 - 5:36If you think about the worldwide burden
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5:36 - 5:38of trying to talk to your patients --
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5:38 - 5:40not just teaching surgeons, just trying to talk to your patients --
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5:40 - 5:44there aren't enough translators in the world.
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5:44 - 5:49We need to employ technology to assist us in this quest.
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5:49 - 5:53At our hospital we see everybody from Harvard professors
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5:53 - 5:55to people who just got here last week.
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5:55 - 5:57And you have no idea how hard it is
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5:57 - 6:00to talk to somebody or take care of somebody you can't talk to.
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6:00 - 6:03And there isn't always a translator available.
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6:03 - 6:08So we need tools.
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6:08 - 6:11We need a universal translator.
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6:11 - 6:16One of the things that I want to leave you with as you think about this talk
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6:16 - 6:21is that this talk is not just about us preaching to the world.
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6:21 - 6:24It's really about setting up a dialogue.
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6:24 - 6:26We have a lot to learn.
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6:26 - 6:30Here in the United States we spend more money per person
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6:30 - 6:34for outcomes that are not better than many countries in the world.
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6:34 - 6:37Maybe we have something to learn as well.
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6:37 - 6:42So I'm passionate about teaching these FLS skills all over the world.
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6:42 - 6:45This past year I've been in Latin America, I've been in China,
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6:45 - 6:49talking about the fundamentals of laparoscopic surgery.
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6:49 - 6:52And everywhere I go the barrier is:
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6:52 - 6:57"We want this, but we need it in our language."
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6:57 - 7:00So here's what we think we want to do:
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7:00 - 7:02Imagine giving a lecture
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7:02 - 7:07and being able to talk to people in their own native language simultaneously.
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7:07 - 7:13I want to talk to the people in Asia, Latin America, Africa, Europe
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7:13 - 7:18seamlessly, accurately
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7:18 - 7:22and in a cost-effective fashion using technology.
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7:22 - 7:24And it has to be bi-directional.
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7:24 - 7:26They have to be able to teach us something as well.
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7:26 - 7:28It's a big task.
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7:28 - 7:31So we looked for a universal translator; I thought there would be one out there.
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7:31 - 7:35Your webpage has translation, your cellphone has translation,
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7:35 - 7:40but nothing that's good enough to teach surgery.
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7:40 - 7:43Because we need a lexicon. What is a lexicon?
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7:43 - 7:47A lexicon is a body of words that describes a domain.
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7:47 - 7:49I need to have a health care lexicon.
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7:49 - 7:53And in that I need a surgery lexicon.
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7:53 - 7:57That's a tall order. We have to work at it.
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7:57 - 7:59So let me show you what we're doing.
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7:59 - 8:01This is research -- can't buy it.
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8:01 - 8:06We're working with the folks at IBM Research from the Accessibility Center
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8:06 - 8:11to string together technologies to work towards the universal translator.
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8:11 - 8:13It starts with a framework system
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8:13 - 8:15where when the surgeon delivers the lecture
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8:15 - 8:19using a framework of captioning technology,
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8:19 - 8:23we then add another technology to do video conferencing.
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8:23 - 8:26But we don't have the words yet, so we add a third technology.
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8:26 - 8:29And now we've got the words,
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8:29 - 8:34and we can apply the special sauce: the translation.
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8:34 - 8:38We get the words up in a window and then apply the magic.
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8:38 - 8:40We work with a fourth technology.
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8:40 - 8:44And we currently have access to eleven language pairs.
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8:44 - 8:49More to come as we think about trying to make the world a smaller place.
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8:49 - 8:51And I'd like to show you our prototype
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8:51 - 8:56of stringing all of these technologies that don't necessarily always talk to each other
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8:56 - 9:00to become something useful.
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9:00 - 9:04Narrator: Fundamentals of Laparoscopic Surgery.
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9:04 - 9:07Module five: manual skills practice.
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9:07 - 9:15Students may display captions in their native language.
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9:15 - 9:16Steven Schwaitzberg: If you're in Latin America,
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9:16 - 9:18you click the "I want it in Spanish" button
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9:18 - 9:22and out it comes in real time in Spanish.
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9:22 - 9:25But if you happen to be sitting in Beijing at the same time,
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9:25 - 9:28by using technology in a constructive fashion,
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9:28 - 9:31you could get it in Mandarin or you could get it in Russian --
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9:31 - 9:37on and on and on, simultaneously without the use of human translators.
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9:37 - 9:39But that's the lectures.
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9:39 - 9:42If you remember what I told you about FLS at the beginning,
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9:42 - 9:45it's knowledge and skills.
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9:45 - 9:47The difference in an operation
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9:47 - 9:52between doing something successfully and not
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9:52 - 9:55may be moving your hand this much.
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9:55 - 9:58So we're going to take it one step further;
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9:58 - 10:00we've brought my friend Allan back.
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10:00 - 10:05Allan Okrainec: Today we're going to practice suturing.
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10:05 - 10:07This is how you hold the needle.
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10:07 - 10:12Grab the needle at the tip.
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10:12 - 10:15It's important to be accurate.
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10:15 - 10:19Aim for the black dots.
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10:19 - 10:22Orient your loop this way.
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10:22 - 10:27Now go ahead and cut.
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10:27 - 10:30Very good Oscar. I'll see you next week.
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10:30 - 10:33SS: So that's what we're working on
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10:33 - 10:36in our quest for the universal translator.
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10:36 - 10:38We want it to be bi-directional.
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10:38 - 10:43We have a need to learn as well as to teach.
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10:43 - 10:47I can think of a million uses for a tool like this.
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10:47 - 10:49As we think about intersecting technologies --
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10:49 - 10:52everybody has a cell phone with a camera --
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10:52 - 10:54we could use this everywhere,
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10:54 - 10:56whether it be health care, patient care,
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10:56 - 11:01engineering, law, conferencing, translating videos.
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11:01 - 11:03This is a ubiquitous tool.
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11:03 - 11:05In order to break down our barriers,
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11:05 - 11:07we have to learn to talk to people,
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11:07 - 11:11to demand that people work on translation.
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11:11 - 11:13We need it for our everyday life,
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11:13 - 11:16in order to make the world a smaller place.
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11:16 - 11:18Thank you very much.
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11:18 - 11:20(Applause)
- Title:
- A universal translator for surgeons
- Speaker:
- Steven Schwaitzberg
- Description:
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Laparoscopic surgery uses minimally invasive incisions -- which means less pain and shorter recovery times for patients. But Steven Schwaitzberg has run into two problems teaching these techniques to surgeons around the world -- language and distance. He shares how a new technology, which combines video conferencing and a real-time universal translator, could help. (Filmed at TEDxBeaconStreet.)
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 11:41
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