Why are people hoarding toilet paper? | Hans Hacker | TEDxUAMonticello
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0:10 - 0:14Why are people hoarding
toilet paper and hand sanitizer? -
0:15 - 0:16Why?
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0:16 - 0:17Why?
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0:17 - 0:20It's like we've decided
we're going to play a game -
0:20 - 0:22called "win the pandemic"
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0:22 - 0:29and beat our neighbors
at what's become a very disturbing game. -
0:30 - 0:31Why?
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0:31 - 0:33Why are we doing this?
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0:33 - 0:36Actually, that question
deserves an answer; -
0:36 - 0:37it's not merely rhetorical.
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0:37 - 0:40And today I want to address what it is
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0:40 - 0:45that motivates people
to take shelves that look like this - -
0:45 - 0:46perfectly fine shelves -
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0:46 - 0:50and turn them into shelves
that look like this. -
0:50 - 0:53Some people might say
we don't like each other - -
0:53 - 0:57that's the reason why
we're hoarding goods. -
0:57 - 1:01We don't like each other so much,
we are so uncivil, -
1:01 - 1:04and we are so antagonistic
toward our neighbors -
1:04 - 1:06that we are willing to trample them
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1:06 - 1:12on the way to clearing off
shelves of toilet paper! -
1:12 - 1:16In fact, a lot of people
attribute the problems, -
1:16 - 1:18many problems in society,
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1:19 - 1:21including our response to the coronavirus,
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1:21 - 1:26to incivility, particularly in politics.
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1:26 - 1:32Name-calling, conspiracy theories,
demonizing the opposition - -
1:32 - 1:33you name it,
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1:33 - 1:34we've got it.
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1:34 - 1:38In an election year
which is already pretty nasty, -
1:38 - 1:40and it's going to get worse,
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1:40 - 1:42today, I want to suggest
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1:42 - 1:49that the problem in our society
and politics is not incivility. -
1:50 - 1:53Today, I'd like to make two points.
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1:53 - 1:57First, the problem is disconnection.
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1:57 - 2:00We are disconnected from each other,
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2:00 - 2:01our neighbors,
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2:02 - 2:03our communities,
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2:03 - 2:05and government.
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2:05 - 2:11And secondly, we can understand
this problem a little bit better -
2:11 - 2:15by analogizing it to the rules of a game.
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2:15 - 2:21Now, why is disconnection
the answer to the problem -
2:21 - 2:23rather than incivility?
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2:23 - 2:30It's because while uncivil people
can be mean and rude, -
2:30 - 2:34disconnected people behave selfishly.
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2:34 - 2:36Think about it like this:
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2:36 - 2:38It's Thanksgiving.
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2:38 - 2:42After your family
has driven each other nuts, -
2:42 - 2:46several arguments have broken out,
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2:46 - 2:50and your significant other
is no longer speaking to you, -
2:50 - 2:52it's time for dessert.
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2:52 - 2:54What prevents you
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2:54 - 3:00from taking the large
piece of pie on the right -
3:00 - 3:06and leaving that small sliver
for your family and your friends? -
3:07 - 3:08It's the connection.
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3:08 - 3:11You're a member of a group.
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3:11 - 3:16What kind of a sociopath
takes all of the pie for himself, -
3:16 - 3:22leaving only the scraps
for his family and his friends? -
3:22 - 3:27The different ways in which we respond
to pumpkin pie and toilet paper -
3:27 - 3:33illustrate a much-documented problem
in American society and politics. -
3:33 - 3:35It goes something like this:
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3:35 - 3:38The problems that we experience
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3:40 - 3:46are the result
of an increase in incivility, -
3:46 - 3:47nastiness,
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3:48 - 3:50causticness,
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3:50 - 3:53and aggression.
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3:54 - 3:57But here's the problem
with that explanation. -
3:58 - 4:01American society has always been uncivil.
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4:01 - 4:03In fact, when this guy,
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4:05 - 4:07Alexis de Tocqueville,
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4:07 - 4:10visited the United States in 1831,
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4:10 - 4:17he found a people practicing
what he called a "vibrant democracy." -
4:17 - 4:22Now, this is our idealized vision
of what that vibrant democracy looks like. -
4:22 - 4:24But that's not what de Tocqueville found.
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4:24 - 4:27He found a people practicing a politics
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4:27 - 4:32that was nasty, vitriolic, and malicious.
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4:33 - 4:35It was so nasty
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4:35 - 4:40that even George Washington
was not insulated from abuse. -
4:41 - 4:44By the way, you may remember
from the play "Hamilton" -
4:44 - 4:46that these are the words
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4:46 - 4:51that got Charles Lee
shot by John Lawrence in a duel. -
4:51 - 4:55Politics then looked very much
like politics now. -
4:55 - 4:59Saying our politics is uncivil
doesn't really explain what's different. -
4:59 - 5:01So what is different?
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5:01 - 5:03What has changed?
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5:04 - 5:06In the 1800s,
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5:08 - 5:13when Americans got done
abusing and maligning each other, -
5:13 - 5:14they went to church together,
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5:15 - 5:17they played baseball together,
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5:17 - 5:18they ate dinner together
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5:18 - 5:22without much thought
to political differences, -
5:22 - 5:25and their children married each other.
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5:26 - 5:31People connected their interests
with the interests of the whole, -
5:31 - 5:35and those interests surmounted
any political differences. -
5:35 - 5:38De Tocqueville called this "civic virtue."
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5:38 - 5:40So what's different today?
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5:40 - 5:46Unlike in 1831, Americans today
feel disconnected from each other, -
5:46 - 5:48from their communities,
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5:48 - 5:50and from their government.
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5:50 - 5:51We have,
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5:51 - 5:53to put it in de Tocqueville's terms,
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5:53 - 5:55much less civic virtue.
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5:55 - 5:58The documented process looks like this:
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5:59 - 6:04As affluence grows and people acquire
much more money and resources, -
6:04 - 6:09they become individualistic
and self-involved. -
6:09 - 6:15And self-involved people
become disassociated. -
6:16 - 6:18They become so disassociated
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6:18 - 6:24because they cannot stand to be around
people who think differently than they do. -
6:25 - 6:30Generally, people have two responses
to this kind of society. -
6:31 - 6:37The first response is to sort yourself
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6:37 - 6:40into tribes of like-minded other,
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6:40 - 6:44to associate only with people
who think like you do. -
6:44 - 6:48The problem with that is we end up
having a conversation with ourselves. -
6:48 - 6:51We end up having
very limited relationships -
6:51 - 6:53that don't challenge,
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6:53 - 6:55they don't expand the mind,
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6:56 - 7:00they don't create
the potential for new ideas. -
7:00 - 7:01The other response -
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7:02 - 7:07well, and also, it may result
in fury directed at out-group, -
7:07 - 7:10at people who don't think like you do.
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7:10 - 7:13The other response is a little different.
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7:13 - 7:15Many people didn't sort
themselves into tribes. -
7:15 - 7:19They went home,
and they turned on Netflix -
7:20 - 7:24Study after study correlates
increased wealth and affluence -
7:24 - 7:25in Western democracies
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7:25 - 7:30with a range of pathologies
like social disconnectedness, -
7:30 - 7:32loneliness,
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7:32 - 7:34declining civic participation,
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7:34 - 7:36and a lack of trust in government.
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7:36 - 7:39Disconnectedness and social isolation
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7:39 - 7:43correspond with decline
in empathy for others, -
7:43 - 7:46a rise in emotional dysregulation,
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7:47 - 7:52decline in attachment to government.
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7:52 - 7:55It includes anxiety, narcissism,
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7:55 - 7:58and a range of
psychopathologies and neuroses. -
7:58 - 8:01I want to offer
a different way of thinking -
8:01 - 8:04that might help us break out
of the social isolation -
8:04 - 8:10and the silos of similar opinion
into which we have warehoused our brains. -
8:12 - 8:16Let us think for a moment
of society as a game. -
8:16 - 8:18Think of your connections to society -
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8:18 - 8:22to your friends, your family,
your neighbors, and community, -
8:22 - 8:23and government -
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8:23 - 8:24as a game.
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8:24 - 8:25What are the rules of this game?
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8:25 - 8:27There are two things to know:
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8:27 - 8:30First of all, there are generally
two types of game. -
8:31 - 8:36Secondly, you may be thinking
you're playing one game, -
8:36 - 8:39but you're actually playing another.
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8:39 - 8:42You can be wrong
about what game you are playing. -
8:42 - 8:45So what are these two type of games?
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8:45 - 8:48Well, the first is called
a collective game. -
8:48 - 8:53A collective game is one
in which you play as a group: -
8:53 - 8:56you cannot win unless the group wins.
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8:56 - 9:01An example of this is Dungeons & Dragons
or World of Warcraft. -
9:02 - 9:06The other type of game is called
a zero-sum or one-winner game. -
9:06 - 9:11This is a game in which you win
and you can only win -
9:11 - 9:13if everyone else loses.
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9:13 - 9:18An example of this
type of game is Monopoly -
9:18 - 9:19[Monopoly]
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9:19 - 9:23There are also in-between games,
I will admit to that. -
9:23 - 9:24There are in-between games.
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9:24 - 9:27There are games where
somebody is going to win, -
9:27 - 9:29but nobody really cares who does;
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9:29 - 9:34it's the group experience, the connection
with others that matters the most. -
9:34 - 9:38And an example of an in-between game
would be Cards against Humanity. -
9:39 - 9:41So what game are you playing?
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9:42 - 9:46The civic-minded people in society
are playing Dungeons & Dragons. -
9:46 - 9:48They are connected with others.
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9:48 - 9:52They have connected their goals
with the goals of a group. -
9:53 - 9:56The disassociated tribe?
They're playing Monopoly. -
9:56 - 9:57They have to win,
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9:57 - 10:01and they cannot win
unless everyone else loses. -
10:01 - 10:06The socially isolated
have stopped playing altogether. -
10:07 - 10:09I'll freely admit that no game is perfect,
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10:09 - 10:13and every single game has its problem.
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10:13 - 10:18Just because you're playing a collective
game doesn't mean that you win. -
10:19 - 10:22There are some games,
collective games in particular, -
10:22 - 10:28where to win, you can't just simply focus
on the goal that the group must achieve, -
10:28 - 10:30you have to convince
members within the group -
10:30 - 10:33not to exploit common resources
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10:33 - 10:38and take advantage of other members
by acting badly or selfishly. -
10:38 - 10:42Here's an example of that.
Does anybody remember Leeroy Jenkins? -
10:42 - 10:45If you haven't heard of this,
go look at it on YouTube. -
10:45 - 10:47A group of people playing
World of Warcraft -
10:47 - 10:50are attempting to go through
a set of doors. -
10:50 - 10:54They know on the other side
of those doors there are monsters. -
10:54 - 10:58They are attempting to
coordinate their activities -
10:58 - 11:01when one of their members
decides to go rogue, -
11:01 - 11:05yells his name out and goes
through the doors and into the room. -
11:05 - 11:07The rest of the group
doesn't know what to do. -
11:07 - 11:09They follow him in and everyone dies.
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11:09 - 11:10Everyone loses.
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11:10 - 11:14Now, that was a setup,
as we know now, it was a setup, -
11:14 - 11:16but it's a very good illustration
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11:16 - 11:19of what happens when a member
of a group behaves badly. -
11:21 - 11:26Society is a collective game
by definition, -
11:26 - 11:29if you are a member of a society,
you are playing a collective game, -
11:29 - 11:34but for some reason, we often
mistake that game for a zero-sum game. -
11:35 - 11:39For example, that moment when you realize
you weren't playing a zero-sum game. -
11:40 - 11:42This individual recounted on Facebook
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11:42 - 11:46an instance in which he, an interviewer,
was standing on a subway, -
11:46 - 11:51and a man brushed by him
and then told him to go F himself. -
11:51 - 11:55A little later that man
showed up for his interview -
11:55 - 12:00with the man he had just
cussed out on the subway. -
12:00 - 12:04It got a little tense when he asked him
how his commute was. -
12:04 - 12:08This individual thought
he was playing a zero-sum game, -
12:08 - 12:11but he was actually
playing a collective game, -
12:11 - 12:15where he needed a job, and the interviewer
needed to hire someone, -
12:15 - 12:20and everyone lost because he mistook
which game he was playing. -
12:20 - 12:22Now, the problem
with zero-sum games is this: -
12:22 - 12:25It's hard to identify the bad actor.
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12:25 - 12:27It's hard to identify the bad actor.
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12:27 - 12:31For example, these three people
represent a society, -
12:31 - 12:37but it's one in which a powerful actor
who controls most of the resources -
12:37 - 12:42has convinced the other two members
that they need to play a zero-sum game -
12:42 - 12:46for control of the scarce resources
that remain to them. -
12:46 - 12:48The same situation exists here.
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12:48 - 12:51These two individuals
are traveling on an airline. -
12:51 - 12:55A woman documented this on Instagram.
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12:55 - 12:57She leaned her seat back
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12:57 - 13:01into the private space
of the individual sitting behind her, -
13:01 - 13:05and the man sitting behind her
proceeded to punch the back of her chair -
13:05 - 13:08throughout the rest of her flight.
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13:08 - 13:12Now, who is the bad actor here?
Who's the bad actor? -
13:12 - 13:15Is it the man punching the seat
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13:15 - 13:18or is it the woman
who has leaned her chair back -
13:18 - 13:25into the personal space of an individual
so that she can travel comfortably? -
13:25 - 13:27It's neither. It's the airline.
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13:27 - 13:29But unfortunately these two individuals
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13:29 - 13:34are so interested in pointing the finger
at each other and assigning blame -
13:34 - 13:36that they've missed who the bad actor is.
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13:37 - 13:42On the other hand, think about this:
The NBA season is cancelled. -
13:43 - 13:48March Madness is cancelled.
TED has been moved to July. -
13:48 - 13:53And I am speaking to a room
full of empty chairs. -
13:53 - 13:59These were decisions made by people
who had millions of dollars to lose, -
13:59 - 14:02and they decided that
they were playing a collective game. -
14:02 - 14:09If they had played the zero-sum
game and held the NBA season, -
14:09 - 14:12and held March Madness,
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14:12 - 14:16there would have been a severe
price to pay for the collective. -
14:16 - 14:21They would have made their millions,
but the collective would have lost. -
14:21 - 14:23So, they are the good actors.
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14:23 - 14:27They made those decisions as good actors
for the benefit of the collective. -
14:27 - 14:29So what is the upshot of all this?
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14:29 - 14:33Well, first of all society stands
a better chance of surviving -
14:33 - 14:36if all of the members of that society
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14:36 - 14:39believe that they are playing
a collective game. -
14:39 - 14:42They can focus on achieving
the goals of the group -
14:42 - 14:45while controlling the behavior
of the members -
14:45 - 14:48and identifying who is the bad actor.
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14:48 - 14:49On the other hand,
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14:49 - 14:54the society where individuals think
they're playing a zero-sum game -
14:54 - 14:56is less likely to survive
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14:56 - 15:00because the individuals are so interested
in competing with the other -
15:00 - 15:04that they miss who the bad actor is
who is exploiting them. -
15:04 - 15:08So, stop worrying about incivility
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15:08 - 15:12and start worrying about connection.
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15:12 - 15:19Start playing the collective game
and stop playing the zero-sum game. -
15:19 - 15:22If you play the collective game,
and we all play it together, -
15:22 - 15:27we can say with a great deal
of credibility to the bad actors: -
15:29 - 15:32You may be exploiting your position
for your personal gain, -
15:32 - 15:34but we are coming for you.
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15:34 - 15:36Thank you for your time.
- Title:
- Why are people hoarding toilet paper? | Hans Hacker | TEDxUAMonticello
- Description:
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In the midst of the COVID-19/coronavirus pandemic, many grocery shelves are empty because of mass hoarding and panic buying. In this enlightening talk, political scientist Dr. Hacker explains that the problem is not incivility, but our social perspective. In this crisis, "winner take all" means taking all the toilet paper and supplies and leaving none for your neighbor. Framing the problem as types of games, he advocates abandoning the zero-sum mentality and adopting a collective attitude.
Dr. Hans J. Hacker is associate professor in the Department of Political Science at Arkansas State University where he teaches constitutional law and civil rights jurisprudence. His research has been the basis for two columns in the New York Times and a segment on CNN Newsroom with Poppy Harlow. His publications include Seasonal Effective Disorder: Clerk Training and the Success of Supreme Court certiorari Petitions (with William D. Blake and Shon R. Hopwood, Law & Society Review,2015), The Brooding Spirit of the Law (with William D. Blake, Justice Systems Journal, 2010), The Culture of Conservative Christian Litigation (Roman and Littlefield, 2005), and various articles and publications in the areas of constitutional law, law and society and public administration. Dr. Hacker’s current research focuses on innovative teaching techniques in undergraduate public law curricula, and the contrasting values of American Pragmatism and modern rights doctrines.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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- English
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