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I'm going to quickly
sketch out a flu
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virus for you--
something like this.
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And it has an envelope, so
this is our little envelope.
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And on the inside
of this envelope
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are eight chunks of RNA,
so let's draw out the RNA.
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This is the genetic material.
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And this genetic material,
among other things,
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codes for protein.
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And so one of the proteins
here is sitting on the outside.
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I'm drawing it as if it
looks like a little hand.
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And the reason I do that is
because it reminds me that this
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H stands for hemagglutinin, but
it basically holds onto sialic
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acid .
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And that's how it gets
inside of little cells.
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And then there's another
protein over here.
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And I draw these as
a pair of scissors
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just to kind of remind me that
this one nicks the sialic acid.
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This is called neuraminidase,
and it nicks the sialic acid,
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and it helps it cut itself
loose from the cell.
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And so it can move on
to other cells- kind of
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helps with exiting.
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And I haven't actually been
drawing this other protein.
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There's another one here.
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And I'm going to draw it now.
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This is called an M2 protein.
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But it's not actually
found on all flu types.
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It's actually found
on flu A, but actually
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not found on flu B. So this is
a really important difference
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between flu A and flu B.
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And you'll see why, because
one of the medicines that we
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use now to treat flu-- and
yes, you heard me correctly,
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that we do have
anti-viral medications.
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You probably heard
from many people
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saying antibiotics
only treat bacteria,
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not viruses, and that's true.
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But we have a special
word for these other drugs
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that actually do treat viruses.
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And we call them
anti-viral drugs.
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And there are couple of them.
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I'm actually going to write
out some of the names.
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So this is called
Amantadine or Rimantadine.
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And it's kind of
easy to remember
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that they are in the
same class because they
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share a lot of the same letters.
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And these two anti-viral
drugs, they actually
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work on stopping or blocking
the activity of this enzyme.
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And I'm just kind of drawing
it like a little negative sign.
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But that's just to remind
you that it blocks the M2.
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So if you know that
flu B doesn't have M2,
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then you also know
that these drugs then
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don't work against flu B.
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These drugs don't even work
that well against flu A,
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because flu A has
become quite resistant.
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So remember, resistance
happens because there
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are little mutations.
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And it turns out that flu A has
kind of a mutated form of M2,
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so that it actually doesn't
get blocked by Amantadine
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or Rimantadine quite so easily.
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So unfortunately for
us, that's bad news.
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And the CDC in 2012,
2013 have recommended
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not using these
drugs because there's
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so much flu A resistance.
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So that's unfortunate,
but the good news
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is that we actually have
a couple of other drugs.
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So we have a drug
called Oseltamivir,
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and related to
it-- and you'll see
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with the spelling--
we have Zanamivir.
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And these, of course, share a
lot of the same letters again.
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And these two actually
block the neuraminidase.
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And this is actually
in flu A and flu B.
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So that's good news, because
it blocks both flu A and flu
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B. And let me actually just
write that down, flu A and flu
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B. And that's important, right?
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So we have these two drugs,
and one of them is a pill.
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This first one is a pill.
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And the second one is
kind of an inhaled powder.
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So they're taken
in different ways.
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And another important
difference between them--
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this is something that we have
to just kind of keep in mind--
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is that there are
age restrictions.
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So you have to be
a certain age to be
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able to take these medications.
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And they differ
between the two drugs,
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and whether you're
using it to treat,
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or if you're using it to prevent
getting sick from the flu.
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There's a difference there too.
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So there are age
restrictions that we just
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have to keep in mind.
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But overall, I'm pretty
happy with the fact
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that at least we
have these options
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if we need to treat someone
that's very sick from the flu.
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So let's talk about
that treatment then.
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So what if you have someone--
and this happens to me all
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the time where someone comes
in kind of frowny faced
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because they're sick with
the flu, and you're thinking,
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OK well, this person
obviously needs treatment.
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So I'm going to write
that at the top.
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They need some
sort of treatment.
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And I guess the
first question is,
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why would I treat this person?
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Of course, everyone's
going to be frowny faced
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if they get the flu.
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So why am I treating
this person?
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What makes them so special?
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Well, one thing that
could make them special
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is-- let's say that
they're high risk.
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Remember high risk groups in
our society, in our community,
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include real young
kids-- so let's
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say under two years
old-- or older folks--
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let's say people
over 65 years old.
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It could be someone
that's pregnant.
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That's another high risk group.
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Or it could be someone that has
some sort of chronic disease.
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And that could be like a
lung disease or asthma,
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any sort of chronic disease
that makes them ill.
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Maybe their immune
system isn't working.
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And that would be a
group I would definitely
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consider treatment for.
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Now another group-- I'm
going to put it just right
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below-- is let's say
you have someone that's
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completely healthy-- young,
healthy person, not pregnant.
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They still might get
treatment if there's maybe
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severe disease.
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Let's say they get
really, really sick.
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They're just feeling awful,
and I'm worried about them,
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and they might need
to be hospitalized.
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If they're very,
very sick, or they
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get some sort of
complication, or they're
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going to get hospitalization,
anything like that,
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then this is a person, again,
I would be careful with.
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And I would consider treatment.
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Let me bring up a
little bit of space.
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So this is the kind of group
that I would definitely
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consider treatment in.
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So what else should we
think about or consider?
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Well, the next question,
often, that comes up
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is how soon do you need
to start treatment?
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When do you need
to begin treatment?
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Or when do you start?
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And of course that
answer's going
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to be as soon as possible.
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But a bigger range on that
would be within two days.
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So really, if they've started
getting symptoms a week ago,
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I might still be
inclined to treat them.
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But I'd be more inclined
if it had just started.
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What other questions
or considerations
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should we just
kind of go through?
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What about treatment?
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So how long do you
treat them for?
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And generally speaking,
it's about five days.
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So five days of either
Oseltamivir or Zanamivir.
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And sometimes it goes
a little bit longer,
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but usually it's just five days.
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That's kind of a normal course.
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So this is how I
would manage someone
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that's being treated for flu.
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But of course, what if they're
not being treated for it?
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What if they come in,
and they're feeling fine?
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And we have to draw
another face here.
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This is a smiley face,
something like that.
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And I'm going to draw two.
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So let's say there's two.
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And we're going to deal
with them separately.
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So let me actually draw
a line between them,
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something like this.
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So we've got two more cases.
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Both are feeling fine, but
they might need prevention.
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Another thing these drugs
can do is prevent you
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from getting sick.
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So prevention is
important as well.
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And let's say these folks
are living in a home.
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Let me actually build
a little nice house
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around my first
smiley face person.
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And I'll do the same around
this second smiley face person.
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And let's say this
first person--
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this person gets a
visit from someone
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who's feeling flu symptoms.
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So this person comes to
visit, and our friend,
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our smiley friend, is worried.
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They think, oh my gosh,
now I'm going to get sick.
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So if they're high
risk-- and we went
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through some of the
categories-- actually,
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I should mention there are
other categories, not just these
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that I listed.
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There are some others as well.
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But if they're high
risk in some way,
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then I would
consider giving them
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a medication like
Oseltamivir or Zanamivir
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to prevent them
from getting sick.
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Now this whole bit about severe
disease or hospitalization--
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this doesn't really apply
because they're not sick.
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They're obviously not going
to have severe disease
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or hospitalization already.
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What about this question of
when would I start treatment.
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Well ideally, again, it's
going to be within two days.
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So within two days
of their exposure.
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We call the visit,
or whoever kind of
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made them worry that
they might get the flu,
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we call that the exposure.
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And so really you want to start
treatment within two days.
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And you also want to start
prevention within two days.
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So how long would you actually
give them the medications for,
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to prevent them
from getting sick?
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Well it really depends
on whether or not
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they've had the vaccine.
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So let's say they've had the
vaccine, the flu vaccine.
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And they were high risk.
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They got visited by
someone, or had an exposure.
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For this person,
I'm thinking I want
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to treat them for two weeks.
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Or give them two
weeks of medications.
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And the logic is that if
I kept them two weeks,
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then that basically covers them.
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And then after
that, I would assume
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that the vaccine would
kind of take hold.
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Because remember, the
vaccine takes two weeks
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to really take full effect.
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So basically, I give
them a medication
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during that period of time when
the vaccine isn't completely
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protecting them.
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And then I expect their
vaccine to kind of take over,
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and for the rest
of the flu season,
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presumably, they should
have good protection.
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So that would be my strategy.
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Now let's say that they can
not take the vaccine, so
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no vaccine.
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And maybe this person
has a severe allergy,
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or had a horrible
reaction to the vaccine.
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For whatever reason, they
cannot take the vaccine.
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Well in this person, if
they can't take the vaccine,
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or don't have the vaccine,
then for this person
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I would actually treat
them for just one week.
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One week after exposure.
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So if the exposure
happened, let's say today,
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I would basically--
and then let's
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assume it's not going
to keep happening--
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so one week after exposure
would then make it next week,
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is when I would
stop the medication.
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So in this scenario,
I'm protecting them
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with the medication
against getting sick
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from this exposure.
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But because they've
had no vaccine,
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if they have ongoing
exposures-- let's
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say they get exposed again
to flu in three weeks-- then
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again they'd have
to come back to me,
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and we'd have to do
this all over again.
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So it really is ideal to have
that vaccine in your system
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to keep protecting
you and preventing you
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from getting ill.
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Now in this second
scenario, let's say
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instead of having a
visitor who's sick,
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let's say you've got people
around you that are sick,
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living in the same place as you.
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Now this person is obviously in
the home with a group of folks.
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So let's call that a group home.
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And what we call this scenario
is basically an outbreak.
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So this person is living
in an outbreak setting.
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And many, many people with
flu are living together
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causing an outbreak to happen.
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We really are worried
about other healthy people
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like our smiley faced friend
from getting sick with the flu
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as well.
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So in this setting,
who am I worried about?
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Who do I want to make sure gets
medications to prevent them
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from getting sick?
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Well, we've got high risk
people, again, living together.
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So if people are
living together--
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and this could be
senior citizens,
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or could be a chronic care
facility, or nursing home--
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and really any kind
of group setting
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where people are
institutionalized
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and they're high risk,
I'm going to be worried.
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And I want to make sure
that we consider prevention
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with one of these medications,
the Oseltamivir or Zanamivir.
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And do I have to worry
about severe disease
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or hospitalization?
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Well, no, again because
here specifically
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I'm talking about
the healthy person
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who happens to be
in an outbreak.
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So they're still healthy.
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They're not hospitalized.
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They don't have
severe disease yet.
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So the whole idea
is to make sure they
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don't get those things, right?
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And when would I
want to treat them?
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Well, it's hard to really
say within two days
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because that implies that
something specific is
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happening.
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When in fact,
during an outbreak,
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you just have constant
exposure, right?
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I mean, everyone
around you is sick.
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Let's say you go down
to eat in the cafeteria.
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Everyone is sick.
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So when you're having
constant exposure,
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we don't really think
about within two days.
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It doesn't really
make sense here.
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So here I would just
kind of be worried
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in general about this person.
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And as far as
treatment, you really
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end up just treating everybody.
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Vaccine or no vaccine,
you treat everybody
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throughout the outbreak
because the whole goal here
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is really to minimize
the outbreak.
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You don't want people to have
all the horrible consequences
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of flu.
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Remember, flu can kill people,
and can cause hospitalizations.
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So to prevent all that,
because it's a high risk
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group of people living
together, you would really just
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treat throughout the outbreak.
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And even one week after the
last case of flu is found.
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So here, unlike
the scenario where
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you have just a single
exposure, because you
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have so many people in
an outbreak that are sick
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and kind of exposing
each other, you basically
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just treat everybody with
Oseltamivir or Zanamivir.
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So now you see we have a
couple of anti-viral drugs,
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and you see when we can
use them to treat folks,
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and also when we can use
them to prevent folks
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from getting sick.