Math is forever
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0:23 - 0:25And inevitably, during that conversation
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0:25 - 0:29one of these two phrases come up:
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0:29 - 0:32A) "I was terrible at math,
but it wasn't my fault. -
0:32 - 0:36It's because the teacher
was awful." (Laughter) -
0:36 - 0:39Or B) "But what is math really for?"
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0:39 - 0:40(Laughter)
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0:40 - 0:42I'll now address Case B.
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0:42 - 0:44(Laughter)
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0:44 - 0:48When someone asks you what math is for,
they're not asking you -
0:48 - 0:51about applications
of mathematical science. -
0:51 - 0:53They're asking you,
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0:53 - 0:56why did I have to study that bullshit
I never used in my life again? (Laughter) -
0:56 - 0:59That's what they're actually asking.
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0:59 - 1:03So when mathematicians are asked
what math is for, -
1:03 - 1:05they tend to fall into two groups:
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1:05 - 1:1154.51 percent of mathematicians
will assume an attacking position, -
1:12 - 1:17and 44.77 percent of mathematicians
will take a defensive position. -
1:17 - 1:20There's a strange 0.8 percent,
among which I include myself. -
1:20 - 1:22Who are the ones that attack?
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1:22 - 1:25The attacking ones are mathematicians
who would tell you -
1:25 - 1:27this question makes no sense,
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1:27 - 1:30because mathematics
have a meaning all their own -- -
1:30 - 1:32a beautiful edifice with its own logic --
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1:32 - 1:34and that there's no point
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1:34 - 1:37in constantly searching
for all possible applications. -
1:37 - 1:39What's the use of poetry?
What's the use of love? -
1:39 - 1:42What's the use of life itself?
What kind of question is that? -
1:42 - 1:44(Laughter)
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1:44 - 1:47Hardy, for instance, was a model
of this type of attack. -
1:47 - 1:49And those who stand in defense tell you,
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1:49 - 1:54"Even if you don't realize it, friend,
math is behind everything." -
1:54 - 1:55(Laughter)
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1:55 - 1:57Those guys,
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1:57 - 2:01they always bring up
bridges and computers. -
2:01 - 2:04"If you don't know math,
your bridge will collapse." -
2:04 - 2:05(Laughter)
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2:05 - 2:09It's true, computers are all about math.
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2:09 - 2:11And now these guys
have also started saying -
2:11 - 2:16that behind information security
and credit cards are prime numbers. -
2:17 - 2:20These are the answers your math teacher
would give you if you asked him. -
2:20 - 2:23He's one of the defensive ones.
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2:23 - 2:24Okay, but who's right then?
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2:24 - 2:27Those who say that math
doesn't need to have a purpose, -
2:27 - 2:30or those who say that math
is behind everything we do? -
2:30 - 2:32Actually, both are right.
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2:32 - 2:33But remember I told you
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2:33 - 2:37I belong to that strange 0.8 percent
claiming something else? -
2:37 - 2:40So, go ahead, ask me what math is for.
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2:40 - 2:43Audience: What is math for?
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2:43 - 2:48Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón: Okay,
76.34 percent of you asked the question, -
2:48 - 2:5123.41 percent didn't say anything,
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2:51 - 2:52and the 0.8 percent --
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2:52 - 2:55I'm not sure what those guys are doing.
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2:55 - 2:58Well, to my dear 76.31 percent --
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2:58 - 3:03it's true that math doesn't need
to serve a purpose, -
3:03 - 3:06it's true that it's
a beautiful structure, a logical one, -
3:06 - 3:09probably one
of the greatest collective efforts -
3:09 - 3:11ever achieved in human history.
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3:11 - 3:13But it's also true that there,
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3:13 - 3:17where scientists and technicians
are looking for mathematical theories -
3:17 - 3:20that allow them to advance,
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3:20 - 3:23they're within the structure of math,
which permeates everything. -
3:23 - 3:27It's true that we have to go
somewhat deeper, -
3:27 - 3:28to see what's behind science.
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3:28 - 3:32Science operates on intuition, creativity.
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3:32 - 3:36Math controls intuition
and tames creativity. -
3:37 - 3:39Almost everyone
who hasn't heard this before -
3:39 - 3:42is surprised when they hear
that if you take -
3:42 - 3:46a 0.1 millimeter thick sheet of paper,
the size we normally use, -
3:46 - 3:50and, if it were big enough,
fold it 50 times, -
3:50 - 3:55its thickness would extend almost
the distance from the Earth to the sun. -
3:56 - 3:58Your intuition tells you it's impossible.
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3:58 - 4:01Do the math and you'll see it's right.
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4:01 - 4:03That's what math is for.
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4:03 - 4:07It's true that science, all types
of science, only makes sense -
4:07 - 4:10because it makes us better understand
this beautiful world we live in. -
4:10 - 4:12And in doing that,
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4:12 - 4:15it helps us avoid the pitfalls
of this painful world we live in. -
4:15 - 4:19There are sciences that help us
in this way quite directly. -
4:19 - 4:20Oncological science, for example.
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4:20 - 4:24And there are others we look at from afar,
with envy sometimes, -
4:24 - 4:26but knowing that we are
what supports them. -
4:26 - 4:29All the basic sciences
support them, -
4:29 - 4:32including math.
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4:32 - 4:35All that makes science, science
is the rigor of math. -
4:35 - 4:40And that rigor factors in
because its results are eternal. -
4:40 - 4:43You probably said or were told
at some point -
4:43 - 4:46that diamonds are forever, right?
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4:47 - 4:49That depends on
your definition of forever! -
4:49 - 4:52A theorem -- that really is forever.
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4:52 - 4:53(Laughter)
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4:53 - 4:56The Pythagorean theorem is still true
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4:56 - 5:00even though Pythagoras is dead,
I assure you it's true. (Laughter) -
5:00 - 5:01Even if the world collapsed
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5:01 - 5:03the Pythagorean theorem
would still be true. -
5:03 - 5:07Wherever any two triangle sides
and a good hypotenuse get together -
5:07 - 5:09(Laughter)
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5:09 - 5:12the Pythagorean theorem goes all out.
It works like crazy. -
5:12 - 5:14(Applause)
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5:19 - 5:22Well, we mathematicians devote ourselves
to come up with theorems. -
5:22 - 5:24Eternal truths.
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5:24 - 5:27But it isn't always easy to know
the difference between -
5:27 - 5:30an eternal truth, or theorem,
and a mere conjecture. -
5:30 - 5:33You need proof.
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5:33 - 5:35For example,
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5:35 - 5:39let's say I have a big,
enormous, infinite field. -
5:39 - 5:43I want to cover it with equal pieces,
without leaving any gaps. -
5:43 - 5:45I could use squares, right?
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5:45 - 5:49I could use triangles.
Not circles, those leave little gaps. -
5:50 - 5:52Which is the best shape to use?
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5:52 - 5:57One that covers the same surface,
but has a smaller border. -
5:57 - 6:01In the year 300, Pappus of Alexandria
said the best is to use hexagons, -
6:01 - 6:03just like bees do.
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6:03 - 6:05But he didn't prove it.
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6:05 - 6:08The guy said, "Hexagons, great!
Let's go with hexagons!" -
6:08 - 6:11He didn't prove it,
it remained a conjecture. -
6:11 - 6:12"Hexagons!"
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6:12 - 6:16And the world, as you know,
split into Pappists and anti-Pappists, -
6:16 - 6:21until 1700 years later
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6:21 - 6:27when in 1999, Thomas Hales proved
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6:27 - 6:32that Pappus and the bees were right --
the best shape to use was the hexagon. -
6:32 - 6:34And that became a theorem,
the honeycomb theorem, -
6:34 - 6:36that will be true forever and ever,
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6:36 - 6:39for longer than any diamond
you may have. (Laughter) -
6:39 - 6:42But what happens if we go
to three dimensions? -
6:42 - 6:46If I want to fill the space
with equal pieces, -
6:46 - 6:48without leaving any gaps,
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6:48 - 6:50I can use cubes, right?
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6:50 - 6:53Not spheres, those leave little gaps.
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6:53 - 6:56What is the best shape to use?
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6:56 - 7:00Lord Kelvin, of the famous
Kelvin degrees and all, -
7:01 - 7:06said that the best was to use
a truncated octahedron -
7:08 - 7:11which, as you all know --
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7:11 - 7:12(Laughter) --
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7:12 - 7:14is this thing here!
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7:14 - 7:17(Applause)
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7:19 - 7:20Come on.
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7:21 - 7:24Who doesn't have a truncated
octahedron at home? (Laughter) -
7:24 - 7:25Even a plastic one.
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7:25 - 7:28"Honey, get the truncated octahedron,
we're having guests." -
7:28 - 7:29Everybody has one!
(Laughter) -
7:29 - 7:32But Kelvin didn't prove it.
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7:32 - 7:36It remained a conjecture --
Kelvin's conjecture. -
7:36 - 7:41The world, as you know, then split into
Kelvinists and anti-Kelvinists -
7:41 - 7:43(Laughter)
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7:43 - 7:46until a hundred or so years later,
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7:49 - 7:53someone found a better structure.
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7:54 - 7:59Weaire and Phelan
found this little thing over here -- -
7:59 - 8:01(Laughter) --
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8:01 - 8:04this structure to which they gave
the very clever name -
8:04 - 8:06"the Weaire-Phelan structure."
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8:06 - 8:09(Laughter)
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8:09 - 8:12It looks like a strange object,
but it isn't so strange, -
8:12 - 8:13it also exists in nature.
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8:13 - 8:16It's very interesting that this structure,
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8:16 - 8:18because of its geometric properties,
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8:18 - 8:23was used to build the Aquatics Center
for the Beijing Olympic Games. -
8:24 - 8:27There, Michael Phelps
won eight gold medals, -
8:27 - 8:30and became the best swimmer of all time.
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8:30 - 8:34Well, until someone better
comes along, right? -
8:34 - 8:36As may happen
with the Weaire-Phelan structure. -
8:36 - 8:39It's the best
until something better shows up. -
8:39 - 8:43But be careful, because this one
really stands a chance -
8:43 - 8:48that in a hundred or so years,
or even if it's in 1700 years, -
8:48 - 8:54that someone proves
it's the best possible shape for the job. -
8:54 - 8:58It will then become a theorem,
a truth, forever and ever. -
8:58 - 9:01For longer than any diamond.
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9:02 - 9:06So, if you want to tell someone
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9:07 - 9:10that you will love them forever
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9:10 - 9:12you can give them a diamond.
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9:12 - 9:15But if you want to tell them
that you'll love them forever and ever, -
9:15 - 9:17give them a theorem!
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9:17 - 9:18(Laughter)
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9:18 - 9:21But hang on a minute!
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9:22 - 9:23You'll have to prove it,
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9:23 - 9:25so your love doesn't remain
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9:25 - 9:27a conjecture.
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9:27 - 9:31(Applause)
- Title:
- Math is forever
- Speaker:
- Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón
- Description:
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With humor and charm, mathematician Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón answers a question that’s wracked the brains of bored students the world over: What is math for? He shows the beauty of math as the backbone of science — and shows that theorems, not diamonds, are forever. In Spanish, with English subtitles.
- Video Language:
- Spanish
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 10:14
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