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- [Sal] This is Sal, here,
I'm here with Jeffrey Rosen,
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head of the National Constitution Center
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and we're gonna talk about Article Two
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of the United States Constitution.
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So, Jeffrey, what does the Article Two,
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what does Article Two deal with?
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- [Jeffrey] It deals
with the executive power,
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the powers of presidency
and it lays them out
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and it starts by saying
the executive power shall
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be vested in a President of
the United States of America.
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- [Sal] And today that
seems somewhat commonsense,
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the the executive power is invested in the
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President of the United States of America.
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Why did they, what's special about that?
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- [Jeffrey] Well, when the
Constitution was drafted,
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it wasn't obvious we'd have
a single executive under the
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Articles of Confederation,
all the state governors,
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some of them had plural executives.
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Alexander Hamilton at the
Constitutional Convention
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was proposing a kind of
monarchy, a President for Life,
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so the idea of setting out
limited powers for the presidency
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and specifying what they
were, creating a President
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that was energetic enough
to achieve common purposes
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but restrained enough not to be a tyrant
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was a huge achievement
for the Constitution.
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- [Sal] That under the
Articles of Confederation
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there wasn't a proper
executive branch, it was really
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the President presided, so
to speak, over Congress.
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- [Jeffrey] That's right
and each, you needed
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unanimous consent to get
anything done, which is why
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the Confederate Congress
couldn't raise money
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to support the war efforts
and couldn't raise taxes.
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So the framers came to
Philadelphia to create an
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energetic executive but one
that was also restrained
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and that's why the vesting
power is so important.
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It basically says that the,
all executive power is vested
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in the President
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but that power is not unlimited.
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Now, people have disagreed
about how much power
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the vesting power grants.
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Theodore Roosevelt had
this stewardship theory
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that the President can do
anything that's not forbidden
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by the Constitution and Article Two.
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William Howard Taft, who
came after Roosevelt,
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had the opposite theory,
a kind of judicial
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theory of the President.
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He said the President can
only do what isn't forbidden.
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So the question of whether
Article Two is the exclusive
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series of presidential
powers or whether there
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are other implicit powers
is a debate that continues
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to this day.
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- [Sal] This will be fascinating.
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We'll go into much more
depth in future videos.
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And just going through
the rest of Section One,
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it looks like there's
a lot of the mechanics
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of what does it mean to
have a term of office.
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What the, how you become President.
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Is that essentially Section One?
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You see this first part, he
shall hold his office during
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the term of four years and
together with the Vice President,
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chose for the same term,
be elected as follows.
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And then they kind of go into
the electoral college system.
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- [Jeffrey] Exactly, and then there are
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a couple other requirements.
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No person except a natural born citizen
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can be President and we
know that term was subject
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to some debate during the
recent presidential election.
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And then there's the provision
that says that Presidents
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have to 35 years old,
it's the most explicit
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part of the Constitution
and the point was to prevent
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aristocratic scions
without a lot of experience
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from taking office.
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The framers were really
concerned about having
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new monarchies and they wanted
to make sure that Presidents
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were seasoned enough
so that's why you can't
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be President unless you're 35.
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- [Sal] Fascinating.
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And as we go further,
and I've copied this text
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from your website, from the
National Constitution Center
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and why did you all
highlight some of this text
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of Article Two in this
yellow-orange color?
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- [Jeffrey] Well, we're really
thrilled by this website,
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we're excited to be doing a
series of videos with you,
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Sal, and it's the
interactive Constitution,
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folks can find it at
constitutioncenter.org.
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These are the main clauses
where we commission the top
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liberal and conservative
scholars to write about
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what they agreed and
disagreed about these clauses.
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So in Section One of
Article Two, the main clause
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is the vesting clause and
that's the one to focus on.
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The other stuff, as you
said, is basically just
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requirements of what you have to
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be in order to be President.
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And then we highlighted
other important provisions
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in Sections Two, Three, and Four.
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- [Sal] Yep and in
particular this section on
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the electoral college
system, this was superseded,
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I saw, I learned from your
website, by the 12th Amendment.
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Is that because of what happened with
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Aaron Burr and Thomas Jefferson?
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- [Jeffrey] Yes, we know that
from the musical Hamilton,
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the election of 1800 did not end well.
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There was actually a tie in the House
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and so it went into the
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electoral college and Aaron,
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rather a tie in the electoral
college, it went to the House
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and Alexander Hamilton cast
his support for Jefferson
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over Burr and Burr was
so furious about that
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that he challenged Hamilton to the duel
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that ultimately killed him.
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But the peculiarity of
having the original system
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where the first place winner
in the electoral college
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became President and
the second place winner
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became Vice President was
so unwieldy that provision
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of the Constitution was
amended and now, as we know,
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Presidents and vice Presidents
run on a single ticket.
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- [Sal] Yup, yup.
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And the rest of Section
One, it kind of finishes
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off with, in the case of the
removal of the President,
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his death, resignation,
or inability to discharge
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the powers, it talks
about how Congress can
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provide for who should be President next.
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- [Jeffrey] Exactly, so,
and there are statutes
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that provide that and
Congress has an elaborate
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rule of succession that
it's created as empowered
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by this part of the Constitution.
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- [Sal] Yep, and then
the last two pieces here,
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it talks about just the
compensation of the President,
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cannot be increased or
diminished during the period
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for which he shall be
elected, maybe to prevent him
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from giving himself a raise
or herself from giving
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herself a raise and then
the last is just the famous
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oath of office.
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I do solemnly swear or
affirm that I will faithfully
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execute the office of the
President of the United States
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and will do to the best
of my ability, preserve,
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protect and defend the
Constitution of the United States.
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- [Jeffrey] Sal, you did a
great job, although there was
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an extra do in there and
I'm pointing that out
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because you remember when
Chief Justice Roberts
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administered the oath to President Obama.
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The fact that he slightly
bungled it led Roberts,
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just to be safe, to
re-administer the oath.
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So, if you want, I can
do it again and maybe
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you'll be President.
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- [Sal] Sounds good.
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So then we get into Section
Two which is, I think, maybe,
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gets a little bit more involved.
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This first paragraph here,
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it says the President shall
be the Commander in Chief
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of the Army and Navy of the
United States and clearly
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they don't say all of the
different forces of the
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United States because we
didn't have an Air Force then.
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- [Jeffrey] Yes.
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- [Sal] Or Marines.
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- [Jeffrey] We sure didn't,
but there was a concern about
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the king controlling the
military, so the two main
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purposes of this Commander
in Chief clause are, first,
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total civilian control of
the military and second,
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the idea that there's
just a single leader.
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So the military is
subordinate to civilian and
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democratically accountable
control and unlike the
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Articles of Confederation, a
single person gets to control
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all of this power so that you can have a
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coordinated military force.
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- [Sal] And as simple and
as clean as this statement
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seems to be, in future
videos we'll discuss more
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of how this may or may
not be in contention with
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the power given to Congress in Article One
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around the right to declare war.
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- [Jeffrey] Exactly right,
we know that the President
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in Section Two has the power to,
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Congress has the power to
declare war and the question
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of what the President can do
is contested, as you said.
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We'll talk about it more
later but everyone agrees
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that the President has the
ability to repel sudden attacks.
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At the same time, we
haven't had a declared war
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since World War Two,
although there's been lots of
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military actions and
the question of how much
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independent power the
President has to initiate
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military action is very hotly contested.
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- [Sal] Yep, and in this next
section, this talks about
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the power of the
President to make treaties
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but with the advice and
consent of the Senate and
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it has to be approved,
provided two thirds of
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the senators present concur.
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- [Jeffrey] Yes, so the
treaty power is shared between
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the President and the Senate,
and generally people think
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that the Senate can approve
or disapprove or maybe
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attach conditions or
reservations to the treaty
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but the President, alone,
has the power to negotiate
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treaties and that was a precedent
set by George Washington.
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So the treaty power is shared.
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- [Sal] And there's a lot
here cause it also talks
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about the power of the President
to appoint ambassadors,
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other public ministers,
consuls, judges of the
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Supreme Court, and other
officers of the United States.
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So this is a pretty
important sentence there.
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- [Jeffrey] It sure is.
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We know now from the controversy over
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Supreme Court nominations
that the so-called advice
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and consent clause is really important.
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The advice and consent
clause is limited to
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high officers as opposed
to inferior officers.
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Because the clause says
for inferior officers,
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Congress can vest the
appointment in the President
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alone, in the courts of law or
the heads of the department.
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But for high ranking officials
like Supreme Court judges,
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the President can nominate,
the Senate exercises advice
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and consent and this is a
shared power between the
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President and Congress.
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- [Sal] Yes, and just
to make people familiar
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with the language, when
they're talking about inferior
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officers, they're not
making any judgment about
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those peoples capability,
they're more talking about
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a more junior, less senior
officials in the government.
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- [Jeffrey] That's an
excellent point but although
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it is a term of art, it's
hugely important and people
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have disputed about who
counts as an inferior officer
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cause a lot hangs on it.
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If the officer isn't inferior
then the President alone
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doesn't get to appoint them.
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- [Sal] And then they--
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- [Jeffrey] Sorry, and
also the question of who
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the President can remove or
fire without Congressional
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approval is important
and may hinge on that
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question as well.
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- [Sal] Right, and we'll talk
more about it, but it seems
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like, you need Senate consent
for more of the getting
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people into their jobs but being able to
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remove them is oftentimes,
there's more power there
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for the President.
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- [Jeffrey] Absolutely,
although again, like most of
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these powers, they're
contested, there are arguments
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on both sides throughout
history and the Supreme
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Court has both recognized
the President's unitary
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authority to fire
executive branch officials
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but in other cases have said
that Congress can impose
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certain conditions on when the
President can fire someone.
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- [Sal] And somewhere we'll
talk about it more but
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this next sentence, really,
is also a really interesting
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one is that look, when
the Senate is in recess,
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the power shall have the
President, the President
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shall have the power to
fill up all vacancies
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and it seems like it's
a temporary filling of
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positions by granting
commissions which shall expire
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at the end of their next session.
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- [Jeffrey] That's exactly
right and the President's
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power to make recess
appointments was just litigated
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before the Supreme Court
and the Supreme Court
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unanimously that President
Obama could not make
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certain appointments because
Congress wasn't technically
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out of session, so the
question of when the Senate
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is in recess is very
contested and the scope
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of that power is really important as well.
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- [Sal] And Section Three,
it kind of just says,
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hey, the President can
get Congress together for
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the State of the Union,
can address Congress,
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can kind of tell Congress
what's on his or her mind.
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- [Jeffrey] Yes.
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It does say that and
the State of the Union
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power is really important.
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You know, there's one
other clause in Section Two
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that just might want to flag and that's
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the take care clause.
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Sorry, that's in Section
Three and I know you're about
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to get to it.
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So we start with this ability to
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give Congress information
about the State of the Union,
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the ability to convene
both Houses of Congress
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in cases of disagreement among them.
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Then you get to this really
core power, that he shall
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take care of the laws
we faithfully executed.
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- [Sal] And why is that
so important that he takes
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care of the laws?
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I mean, isn't that what the
executive should be doing?
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- [Jeffrey] Absolutely, but
there's a serious question,
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what happens if the
President believe a law
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is unconstitutional, then
is it the kind of law
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that he has to execute?
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And President Thomas Jefferson
said no, he refused to
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enforce the Sedition Acts
which basically allowed
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the government to punish
people who criticized
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the President on the
grounds that Jefferson
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believed that it was unconstitutional.
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More recently, we've had a big
controversy over this clause
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when opponents of President
Obama's executive orders
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about immigration have said
that they're a violation
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of his power to take
care that the laws are
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faithfully executed because,
according to opponents,
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Congress reached a different
immigration policy.
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The Supreme Court ultimately
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refused to cleanly decide
that because of the four four
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split and it didn't clearly
rule on the question
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of the take care clause
and the immigration policy.
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- [Sal] Fascinating.
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And just to finish up
here and we'll go deeper
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in future videos as we
go into Section Four,
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this really just talks
about how the President
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or the Vice President
and all civil officers
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of the United States, how they
might be removed from office.
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- [Jeffrey] That's right
and we know from not so
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distant history that the
only way the President
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can be removed from
office is by impeachment.
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A President is impeached
by the House and has to be
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convicted by Senate.
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Two Presidents have been
impeached in American history,
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Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.
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Neither has been convicted
so we've never actually
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had a President who's
been removed from office
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under the impeachment clause.
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- [Sal] And a lot of
times in popular language,
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impeachment, to be clear,
impeachment is the accusation
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and then you have to be held
at, no you actually did,
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those crimes happened and
that's what you're saying,
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the Senate is responsible for it.
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- [Jeffrey] That's right,
you can be impeached but
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acquitted and that's what
happened to both Bill Clinton
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and Andrew Johnson so it's
like being indicted but
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then you go to trial and
you're later acquitted,
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you get to keep your office.
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- [Sal] Well thanks so much, Jeffrey,
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this is a super valuable overview.
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- [Jeffrey] Thanks,
it's been great to talk.