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DISCIPLES: The Cult of TB Joshua, Ep 3 - The Collapse - BBC Africa Eye documentary

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    If this man
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    had not disguised himself,
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    everybody would have
    known this truth so quick.
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    The
    Bible made me to understand that the devil
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    who would disguise himself
    like an angel of light.
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    He would come as a wolf in sheep clothing,
    very, very innocent, very, very subtle.
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    But it is until you come very close
    to them, you know that they are wicked.
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    Now some news coming out
    of Nigeria the last hour.
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    One of the worst disasters on African
    continent in recent memory.
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    The death toll has now risen to 80.
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    What really happened
    at the Synagogue Church of All Nations He
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    was never remunerful or
    pitiful for these people.
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    He could see a man die and never feel it.
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    He was all over the world.
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    Open your lift, share your testimony
    to those who care to listen.
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    By this point, Joshua's miracles had
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    gained him an international following,
    and he was a household name.
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    I welcome you in the name of Jesus.
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    He had huge resources,
    huge amount of influence,
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    not just in Nigeria, throughout Africa,
    Israel, Mexico, Singapore.
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    His reputation globally was enormous.
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    He was a God.
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    He was the Deputy Jesus.
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    Everybody wanted to be
    close to the Prophet.
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    A lot of Dominicans with dreams in their
    hearts for miracles have gathered here
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    to witness the momentous
    arrivals of Prophet TB Joshua.
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    Right from the port, you see convoy,
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    army, police, expert riders
    in front and back by the side.
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    His private jet was very fancy.
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    So inside, all the leather interior.
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    It was very posh, as you would call it.
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    Moments ago, Prophet TB Joshua landed
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    and was welcomed by the President
    and the entire cabinet.
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    Tb Joshua creating an empire
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    of these dignitaries and presidents
    that could give him credibility.
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    He would display these world leaders
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    on the stage to show
    everybody how powerful he was.
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    Man of God, I want to thank you.
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    Don't miss a day without
    watching Emmanuel TV.
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    This is somebody then in the end
    who became like a father.
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    He believed he was
    more valuable than the President.
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    People should pay to come and see him.
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    They should be prepared to pay
    their life savings in essence.
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    And that is what happened.
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    Would you like to visit the Synagogue
    Church of All Nations, Lagos, Nigeria?
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    This foreign visitors would
    come from all across the world.
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    It was the greatest tourist
    attraction for Nigeria.
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    There was not enough space,
    and he's somebody who loved money.
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    So he built a guest house.
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    He would send people and say,
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    Go and see what they charge
    at a five-star hotel in America.
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    I'm worth that.
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    They can't come here and expect God
    to give them something for nothing.
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    People were also desperate for healing.
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    They would pay this ridiculous amount.
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    Money is a good thing,
    but the love of faith is bad.
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    We take the balance sheet
    to him in his office.
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    Tibi Joshua would stand from his chair
    and started laughing.
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    Meaning that money has come.
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    The guest house was a huge
    business industry.
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    There were tour groups going up
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    from South Africa in quite large numbers
    who came to stay in the compound.
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    These are my daughter's photos.
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    When she was growing up.
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    My daughter's Sibongile, Princess.
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    It was It was her first trip to Synagogue.
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    She was looking forward to be there
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    as well, just like every
    body that you see on TV.
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    This one, it was a week before
    she went to Synagogue.
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    She still had a Teddy bear in her room.
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    She told her, siblings,
    make sure you take care of them.
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    She was this perfectionist.
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    My sister,,
    she is a golden child of the family.
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    She was injured.
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    She had a back problem at work.
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    She couldn't get any assistance.
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    Somebody referred her to this church
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    in Nigeria, promising all these
    miracles or whatever.
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    Hallelujah.
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    You see the miracles every day
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    on television, and you go like,
    this can only be the hand of God.
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    That day, I was working in the office.
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    He sent me to go and call someone.
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    I went into the church auditorium, and it
    just felt like this dust in the air.
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    It was really surreal.
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    I just saw this huge plumes of dust.
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    I was close to his office,
    one of the disciples.
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    He ran inside and he said,
    The building came down.
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    The building came down.
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    I remember running towards there,
    and it's just complete chaos.
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    No one really understands
    what's actually happened.
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    I saw that the whole building had
    turned to rubbles that collapsed.
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    I realized that it was the guest house.
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    That was where 99% of the guests
    he had then were lodged.
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    It was all silent.
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    You didn't hear
    cries of people or anything like that.
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    And I guess it's because
    people were buried so deep.
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    You're looking at pictures
    from just a few hours ago.
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    Part of the Synagogue Church
    of All Nations collapsed.
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    Many are set to be trapped inside.
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    There were all these
    news fleshes coming in.
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    This church building has fallen,
    and they don't know the details.
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    The whole family was panicking.
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    An incident described as one of the worst
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    disasters ever to strike
    a place of worship.
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    No fewer than 50 persons have been
    killed following the collapse.
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    The building was believed to be a guest
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    house for foreign members
    of the TB Joshua Synagogue Church.
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    I tried to call my daughter,
    tried to send an SMS.
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    There was no response.
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    Oh, no, that's when now
    I could not breathe.
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    When we asked for information,
    they couldn't give us anything.
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    They said, No, I must wait.
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    We must pray.
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    How?
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    No phone call from synagogue.
    I couldn't sleep.
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    You're waiting for the next day.
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    You're waiting for the phone call.
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    In Minimum TV, God with us.
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    It was Sunday afternoon.
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    Tv Joshua came as a life service.
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    He was all over the world.
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    Let me start from Friday morning.
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    I received a phone call that was a jet
    here at the church,
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    over and around the building,
    passing He was flying over
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    the building four times at a very low rate
    before the building collapsed.
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    So we are going to show you the video.
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    Take note of the upper left-hand corner
    of the screen, a strange aircraft flies
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    over the building at the
    Synagogue Church of All Nations.
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    Nine minutes later,
    the strange aircraft returns.
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    This is the moment of the incident.
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    On
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    television,
    they were showing us that the building had
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    been bombed,
    and they were showing us this aircraft.
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    Don't be scared.
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    You are not the target.
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    I'm the target.
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    I know my art has not yet come.
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    I have not yet finished my job.
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    The President's helicopter touched down
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    on the grounds of the Synagot Church,
    waiting to receive him, Prophet TB Joshua.
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    My personal condolence is
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    in that of the federal government
    to the church,
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    but primarily my common here is
    to express a condolence to Prophet Joshua.
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    I had from Scowen a the five days.
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    They said, We are afraid your
    daughter did not make it.
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    My daughter died in the place
    where I thought it's safe.
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    Because the Bible said,
    Bring your child in the way of the Lord.
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    I made sure that they
    were always in church.
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    I didn't know that I was taking
    them to church to be killed.
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    That's what that That's
    what I was not expecting.
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    That Father was not expecting.
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    A delegation from this Nigerian Church,
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    they came, they pronounced
    my sister has passed on.
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    I didn't have a chance
    to say goodbye to her.
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    I was in South Africa.
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    That's when Daddy called
    and the instruction was I needed to assist
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    in going around to these families within
    South Africa whose children, husbands,
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    or wives had died at the building
    to go and give money, bags of money.
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    It was scripted.
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    Your relative that has passed on,
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    they are more privileged than you because
    they died in the house of the Lord.
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    We would give family cash.
    There were no transfers.
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    We would give cash.
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    We would tell them they mustn't speak
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    to media, they mustn't
    give reports or anything.
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    Basically, we were silencing them.
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    When they came, we asked,
    Why are you giving us money?
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    We were told it's a gift.
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    I said, No, this is not a gift.
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    You are trying to buy our silence.
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    When we refused taking the money,
    he started threatening us.
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    I'm a prophet, I know
    you, I know who you are.
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    Just when I said, No, your daughter
    won't be happy if I don't take the money.
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    It's not that you are poor,
    but it's an obligation.
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    Your daughter will not be happy.
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    As long as in peace,
    she will not be happy.
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    He sent me these messages.
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    It says, If you focus on what you
    have lost, you might lose everything.
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    Now, he's threatening me that my whole
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    family will go down
    the same way my daughter went down.
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    I started searching for information.
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    You start asking questions.
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    What are you hiding?
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    What really happening?
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    The families were lied to.
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    The airplane story is just pure lie.
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    I can tell you the honest truth.
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    On the 12th of September,
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    somebody working in the maintenance
    department went to that guest house.
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    As he was there, he realized that
    that building was unstable.
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    It was shaky.
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    By 12:01, the building collapsed.
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    They told us then that,
    Don't say what you know.
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    So he knew that there was something wrong
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    with the building,
    but they were managing it.
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    There was no plane that dropped bombs.
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    It was structural failure.
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    During the time it was being built,
    I stood with TB Joshua on that building.
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    He was given instructions to his head
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    of maintenance, and he just kept
    pushing and saying, I want it higher.
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    It must go higher.
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    The foundations were never built to cater
    for the height of the building
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    that TB Joshua categorically
    demanded, Must be built.
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    Anything close to Jesus, this is Atal.
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    I want to assure you that our
    God will get back to them.
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    The building collapse is a good example
    of everyday life under TB Joshua.
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    It's just a series of cover-ups.
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    It's just this one was so big,
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    it was almost impossible
    for him to make it go away.
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    Tb Joshua blocked the site immediately.
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    He was trying to hide how brutal it was.
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    Even the emergency units, they never
    allowed them to come in at first.
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    So because of that, there were critical
    cases where people were trapped.
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    I even witnessed one
    of the guests that came.
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    He was trapped in the rubble there.
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    He was holding his leg.
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    A church worker like me told the guy
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    that the only option is they
    are going to cut off his leg.
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    They had to bring this chainsaw.
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    Fuck.
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    Chocked off the leg.
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    Issues like that was not handled
    without Tibu Joshua's awareness.
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    He's the one that gave that instruction.
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    I just remember all these people coming
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    towards me, and one of them was this man,
    and somebody was trying to carry him.
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    His leg was just hanging off,
    and I think his arm was, too.
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    The next thing I would hear is, Emmanuel,
    Emmanuel, go and take your camera.
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    The man of God needs to see
    what is happening here.
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    Tibu Joshua wanted me to film.
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    He prioritized filming
    over rescuing people.
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    They created a small hole.
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    Then they put in this halogen light.
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    When I entered that hole,
    my God, horrific sin.
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    You could hear people.
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    Help me, help me.
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    And their voices are finting.
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    You don't know what they are going
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    through, but you're assuming
    that these people are dying off.
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    Quite quickly after it happened,
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    we all were designated like our roles,
    and I was in charge of press.
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    Initially, the press weren't allowed to go
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    in, but after a while,
    we tried to get things organized.
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    The church was pulling out people,
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    showing to the external media
    team that they are saving people.
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    Telling them to wait and say,
    Thank you, Jesus.
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    Thank you, Jesus.
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    Then they hit dead bodies.
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    So when it was 8:30 to 9:00 PM,
    they asked everybody to leave.
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    That was when the real work was done.
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    All the hands, the legs,
    the heads, scattered bodies.
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    Oh my God.
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    At night,
    that was when we were doing the recordings
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    of the dead people
    as we were putting them into body bags.
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    The body bags were being put
    in our own church ambulances.
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    They were stacking bodies.
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    I can't count the bodies
    that was brought out.
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    There were bags and bags and bags.
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    I never knew the final destination.
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    We got into a bus,
    and the It was like this smell.
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    Someone told me that this bus is full
    of dead bodies,
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    and we're transporting them at night so
    that the press can't see during the day.
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    The whole system was just to protect the
    image of the church and him and TB Joshua.
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    When this happened, I thought he would
    come and see the site straight away.
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    He didn't even go.
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    He just stayed in his office And I was
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    just like, why is he not
    coming to see this tragedy?
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    When I left this scene,
    I have to go and give him my report.
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    He watched those tapes, and I can tell
    you, I never saw an atom of compassion.
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    He could see a man die and never feel it.
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    That same day, he still met one of those
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    ladies, the same way it has always been.
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    I was like, Again?
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    Over the years,
    the abuse, the rape was just too much.
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    People tried to speak up to expose him,
    but nobody would listen.
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    Had people listened,
    no one would have died.
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    To live as part of the synagogue
    community is really difficult.
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    Sometimes, cracks begin
    to appear in your own head.
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    Years and years of lack of sleep,
    you're so exhausted.
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    I had a tap when I was in bed asleep.
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    Daddy's calling you.
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    And my heart sank.
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    I walked up the stairs and I remember
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    thinking, No, no, no, no, no,
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    It was angry, and it was forceful.
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    The most horrendous, terrifying
    experience I have ever, ever been through.
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    I remember walking down the stairs crying.
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    I thought, I have to talk to somebody.
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    And I said to one female disciple,
    From a human point of view,
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    the relationship I have
    with Daddy is wrong.
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    And she immediately bent and buried her
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    head in her hands and said,
    I know what you're talking about.
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    It does it to me, too.
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    And I was, Oh, my goodness.
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    And I remembered all those young girls
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    going up and downstairs He says,
    I'm not the only one.
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    We're not the only ones.
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    It was like I had a blindfold on.
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    And in that one moment, suddenly,
    I was like, Whoa, he's not a holy man.
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    The
    way he hits people,
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    the way he shouts at people, the way
    we don't have any sleep, the reporting.
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    I was petrified because at this point,
    I knew exactly what I was a part of.
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    I realized I've got to escape.
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    There is no fence to sit on.
    There's no in between.
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    You're in or you're out.
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    And that was partly why it was such
    a huge big deal to leave, to escape.
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    You have to make a choice.
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    There's no tracking them.
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    If you left, you were leaving salvation.
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    You were going to die and go to hell.
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    And you really believed this.
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    This was terrifying.
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    The fear was physical.
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    I was shaking.
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    If I could have, I would have
    ran through that airport.
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    I was doing the unthinkable.
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    I was doing a sin.
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    When I saw the greenfields of the UK,
    I thought, I've done it.
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    I can't believe this has happened.
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    I had to tell TB Joshua wasn't coming
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    back, because if I didn't,
    they would come after me.
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    I said, Daddy, I believe the relationship
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    I have with you is wrong,
    and I'm never coming back.
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    And for those few seconds before I put the
    phone down, I heard panic in his voice.
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    I received a phone call.
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    I was asked if I knew anything about
    Anika leaving, and I said, No, I didn't.
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    Tiffa Joshua said, She just said she left
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    because she says that I
    was lying on top of her.
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    It just made me think, Oh, my gosh.
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    I didn't think that that was
    happening to her.
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    He had said, That thing
    only happens to me.
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    Tiffa Joshua started crying and saying,
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    You know I've said whatever I do
    to you is just for your salvation.
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    I've not done this to anybody else.
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    Whatever Anika is saying is not true.
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    The next thing I know,
    I'm called in and some disciples' parents
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    are there, and he said, You need to tell
    them that what she is saying isn't true.
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    I remember that meeting because I had
    to lie, yet knowing what happened to me.
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    It's just horrible how you go through
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    so much pain and then you cover
    for the person that is causing this.
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    Emmanuelle, thank you for joining us here.
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    I was very good at looking happy,
    but I was dead for a long time inside.
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    I decided I'm him out.
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    I can't take this at all.
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    When I left, I went back to confront him
    because I wanted abuse to stop.
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    Why did he come here and meet.
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    I I was filming this on my phone
    in case something bad happened.
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    We'd obviously seen the security
    manhandle people before.
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    Let me get out.
    Let me get out.
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    Why can't he come here?
    What?
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    Is he so hard?
    He cannot come here.
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    When he had sex with me.
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    Let him come here.
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    There was just a panic out of nowhere
    that just grew in the office.
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    Tibi Joshua didn't see it coming.
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    He didn't expect Angie,
    of all people, to confront him.
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    So that day felt like his whole
    life was coming to an end.
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    Everything that he had worked
    hard for was coming to an end.
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    The taxi driver said, Okay,
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    look, I can't drive fast.
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    They're going to shoot my tires out.
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    I'd seen police on the gates beat people.
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    Beat disciples, beat followers.
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    When we're working for a Nigerian state,
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    they were working for TB Joshua,
    who paid them huge sums of money.
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    Two security guards there there held me,
    but I just wrest my way free.
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    There happened to be an Ocada that came
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    past, and I just hopped on,
    and we just said, Go to the airport.
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    You're in and out of traffic, right side
    of the road, wrong side of the road.
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    To just get on that plane.
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    When
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    we left, we wrote a letter that we sent
    to the Church, itemizing the serious
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    abuses that people were having
    to endure George as being a disciple.
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    The Church knew they didn't investigate.
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    They did absolutely nothing.
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    When I left,
    I told this police officer everything.
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    And she said, Because this happened
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    in another country, all we can do is
    take your story, give it to Interpol.
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    But I never heard anything.
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    I watched that place like a Hawk.
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    All those brothers and sisters that I'd
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    made, I knew they were trapped there in
    their mind and physically trapped there.
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    Now, as Christians,
    our life is not our own.
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    Years and years,
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    I watched to see who would come out,
    who was the next person to leave.
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    I write it that would be
    betrayer among my workers.
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    But greater is he that is a man.
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    I was there Almost 14 years of my life,
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    all these beating, sexual abuse,
    it was too much.
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    I was traumatized because was what I
    witnessed, I couldn't live with it.
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    I had the guilty conscience
    of what we did there.
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    When I left, I wrote a 13-page petition
    against him to the police.
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    They couldn't do anything.
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    Tb Joshua said, If people
    leave, they will die.
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    All right, before I die,
    let me tell the whole world.
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    We team up and did that video.
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    I wanted people to know the truth.
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    All true believers need to be
    aware of the man TB Joshua.
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    It was a concentration camp.
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    People were being tortured,
    suffering and smiling.
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    After Bistola left, TB Joshua said she was
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    being a betrayer against the Ministry,
    saying lots of lies.
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    He spoke about that Usually,
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    he lets God speak for him, but this time,
    he has to defend himself.
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    I was called to go and run a voiceover.
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    I was given a script to read
    targeting Bistola Johnson.
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    She was a liar.
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    We have to make her look
    like a complete nutcase.
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    We have to discredit her.
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    He'd clearly taken footage of times
    she had been forced to confess things.
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    What is the problem you
    have with your brain?
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    I always have a terrible headache, and any
    time it happens, I always misbehave.
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    I always behave irrationally.
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    Is this the behavior
    of somebody in the right mind?
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    Is this the person who we should believe?
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    Bisalah was disgraced
    and humiliated created.
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    Paula Gaumont, yeah,
    he did the same thing.
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    Would you put your trust
    in a man like this?
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    This thing went all over YouTube.
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    It's still there today.
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    It was sent all around the world.
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    That was a warning to everybody.
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    If you leave,
    if you speak about the things you've seen
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    and heard, and we all held secrets
    individually, that this could be you.
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    Oh, God, please.
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    Oh, God.
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    Please help me.
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    It was all about silencing opposition.
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    Cribs, the Defunal of Tibi Joshua.
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    When Sister Bisola and the Prophet Agamem,
    when they left,
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    Tibi Joshua came to the mountain,
    said, They are now rebelling against us.
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    Tibi Joshua said, I should cause them.
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    Sister Abisola Pisho, Agamem Pisho,
    they sat it inside that tree.
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    The assignment given to me
    It's for them to die.
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    He didn't tell us the meaning.
  • 31:08 - 31:10
    Either it's God or it's Juju.
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    But I know God is forgiving God.
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    Life was turning around against me.
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    I left my house around
    10:00 in the morning.
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    This when I saw these three men,
    they beat me blue-black.
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    I'm not a Muslim, but I have to put
    on hijab in order to cover my identity.
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    Tb Joshua continues sending
    different people to threaten my life.
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    I ran from Lagos to Abuja, from Abuja
    to Cotonou, from Cotonou to Ghana.
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    This is terrible.
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    Everywhere I turned to was like war.
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    Joshua came after me.
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    He sent people.
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    I was driving.
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    They shot at the back of the vehicle.
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    He sent them to kill me.
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    He knew I knew so much about him.
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    All the secret things he do,
    the manipulations.
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    It is time for healing.
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    In the name of Jesus.
    Christ.
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    Be healed in Jesus name.
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    The miracles he did, the whole
    thing is stage managed and faked.
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    It's faked.
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    You are healed.
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    You are healed.
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    You are healed.
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    I supervise everything for years.
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    I know everything that happens.
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    Come out if you're suffering
    from cancer of any part of the body.
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    Body poison of any part of the body.
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    It's a complicated system.
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    We have the emergency section.
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    Here is the emergency section
    of the Synagogue Church of Our Nation.
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    They are being trained by medical doctors.
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    Any cancer or situation,
    they send them away.
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    Then people that have ordinary wounds
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    that can heal will bring
    them in to present as cancer.
  • 33:21 - 33:23
    By his wounds, she is healed.
  • 33:23 - 33:26
    Those people are being fed medication.
  • 33:26 - 33:32
    They give them drugs
    to get a speedy recovery.
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    What you just see is
    the before and the finality.
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    I know because I was
    Synagogue Chief Video Editor.
  • 33:42 - 33:45
    You would think that that thing
    just happened the same day.
  • 33:45 - 33:50
    Some of them took a span of one year,
    six months.
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    With her wound healed
    after just a few days.
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    Why should anyone
    question so much evidence?
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    The Emergency Department were responsible
    for making miracles look real.
  • 34:08 - 34:16
    They would be the ones responsible
    for writing and approving the placards.
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    The names of their ailments are
    written broadly on their placard.
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    Someone would come and say,
    I've got a headache,
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    and it would be written down as
    some other exaggerated condition.
  • 34:27 - 34:31
    Some people who say,
    I'm having pain in my leg and waist.
  • 34:31 - 34:32
    We are telling him that, Look,
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    if you come out there and walk with your
    leg, papa will not pray for you.
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    You must shout, Man of God, help me.
  • 34:38 - 34:39
    Man of God, help me.
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    I cannot walk.
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    Man of God, help me.
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    I have difficulty in working.
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    Man of God, help me.
    I cannot walk.
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    When I go help me, when I go help me.
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    The people themselves are
    clearly being manipulated.
  • 34:53 - 34:57
    They would be told,
    Exaggerate their problems so that God can
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    heal you and exaggerate your healing
    so that God could your healing.
  • 35:01 - 35:04
    You can see her doing what she could do.
  • 35:04 - 35:07
    Don't give me the glory.
  • 35:07 - 35:09
    Thank you, Jesus.
    Oh, my God.
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    To be candid,
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    I've never seen any crippled person
    that was healed in Synagogue Church.
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    Tb Joshua was the one who masterminded
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    the manipulation
    from the beginning to the end.
  • 35:27 - 35:31
    It's very difficult when you begin
    to dissect
  • 35:32 - 35:37
    the fact that these miracles were staged,
    because then you have to start
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    understanding that people
    died who didn't have to.
  • 35:42 - 35:44
    Dr.
    Tricks, go ahead.
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    Tb I'm sure I advise people after
    praying for them not to take their drugs.
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    If you cannot trust in God
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    with your medicine, You cannot
    trust in God without your medicine.
  • 36:05 - 36:09
    People stopped taking their medication.
  • 36:09 - 36:10
    They stopped taking their pills.
  • 36:10 - 36:12
    I want to throw this away.
  • 36:12 - 36:17
    So where is it at, baby?
  • 36:17 - 36:20
    They were dying in their droves.
  • 36:20 - 36:22
    So many of them.
  • 36:23 - 36:26
    I know people died because they didn't
  • 36:26 - 36:32
    take their medicine,
    and it's It's difficult to live with that.
  • 36:33 - 36:36
    Some people will ask, You know all this?
  • 36:36 - 36:38
    Why were you still there?
  • 36:38 - 36:40
    It's difficult to explain.
  • 36:41 - 36:45
    Tb Joshua told me,
  • 36:45 - 36:50
    Don't worry, we use this thing
    to build people's faith in Christ.
  • 36:50 - 36:54
    I wasn't having in mind that I was
    actually doing something wrong.
  • 36:54 - 36:56
    I thought I was doing something that will
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    help to build the faith
    of people in the church.
  • 36:58 - 37:02
    This miracle has gone a long
    way to build your faith.
  • 37:02 - 37:05
    Restore the agony that he
    was going through.
  • 37:05 - 37:10
    I think everybody that came
    from that piece has guilt.
  • 37:10 - 37:16
    What's so desperately painful and sad is
    we thought we were doing the right thing.
  • 37:16 - 37:23
    It's difficult for me to put
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    my hands on the number
    of people that lost their lives.
  • 37:28 - 37:30
    He has a lot of blood in his hands.
  • 37:30 - 37:33
    The death of people doesn't
    mean anything to him.
  • 37:33 - 37:37
    Today marks exactly a year since
    the church guest house collapsed.
  • 37:37 - 37:42
    116 people, including 85
    South Africans, were killed.
  • 37:42 - 37:46
    Tb Joshua had claimed his building
    was destroyed by a terrorist strike.
  • 37:46 - 37:49
    But the corona has ruled
    the building wasn't built properly.
  • 37:49 - 37:52
    Family suffered a huge injustice because
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    it came out later that actually
    floors were added without permission.
  • 37:55 - 38:00
    So it was obviously a structural error.
  • 38:00 - 38:03
    The Corona found that TB Joshua must be
  • 38:03 - 38:09
    criminally liable
    for whatever happened there.
  • 38:09 - 38:12
    He kept on skipping court.
  • 38:12 - 38:16
    The whole case was postponed
    over and over again.
  • 38:16 - 38:21
    It's like he's been protected
    by who I don't know.
  • 38:22 - 38:26
    Politicians were coming visiting him.
  • 38:26 - 38:29
    He was giving them money.
    He would give me money.
  • 38:29 - 38:32
    Me personally, Drop
    it in this person's car.
  • 38:32 - 38:36
    There was a time, he signed $9,000.
  • 38:36 - 38:40
    He bought the whole system.
  • 38:46 - 38:52
    He never even set his foot in court
    to come and answer for what happened.
  • 38:52 - 38:54
    No one has been arrested.
  • 38:54 - 38:58
    All we hear is lies and more lies.
  • 39:00 - 39:05
    My daughter I was buried alive
    and helpless.
  • 39:05 - 39:08
    The pain is too much.
  • 39:09 - 39:12
    I'm still waiting for justice.
  • 39:13 - 39:17
    We can't get over it
    because we have no closure.
  • 39:19 - 39:24
    It's like a huge black albatross
    hanging around us.
  • 39:24 - 39:28
    This pain, we are going
    to take it to our graves.
  • 39:30 - 39:34
    I don't I tell God that I
    miss my daughter today.
  • 39:36 - 39:40
    I know she's smiling in heaven.
  • 39:43 - 39:50
    In a diary, she wrote For her wedding,
    these are the wedding song, and all that.
  • 39:53 - 39:55
    I miss her.
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    That blood What we're still
    there is crying for justice.
  • 40:05 - 40:09
    But to TV Joshua, it's business as usual.
  • 40:13 - 40:15
    Hallelujah.
    Hallelujah.
  • 40:15 - 40:16
    Hallelujah.
  • 40:16 - 40:22
    Everyone here in the stadium say,
    I love Jesus.
  • 40:22 - 40:24
    Te amo, Jesús.
  • 40:24 - 40:28
    Every night above.
  • 40:28 - 40:30
    Less than a year after the building
  • 40:30 - 40:33
    collapse, Joshua was back
    on the world's stage.
  • 40:33 - 40:39
    It was as if the building
    collapse had never even happened.
  • 40:39 - 40:43
    What matters to him was his reputation.
  • 40:43 - 40:49
    Everything was just for camera footage,
    to please crowd, to raise his name high,
  • 40:49 - 40:59
    and he's ready to sacrifice any one just
    to keep that name, even his own daughter.
  • 41:00 - 41:02
    My existence as a child
  • 41:02 - 41:08
    from another mother undermined
    everything he claimed to stand for.
  • 41:08 - 41:13
    He felt threatened by the fact that I
    had the boldness to confront him.
  • 41:13 - 41:16
    He locked her in a room for months.
  • 41:16 - 41:20
    She was treated like a prisoner.
  • 41:26 - 41:31
    Every day, the beating were not seizing.
  • 41:34 - 41:37
    Eventually,
    this disciple escorted me to the front
  • 41:37 - 41:43
    of the church gate
    and then just left me there.
  • 41:43 - 41:45
    I found myself homeless.
  • 41:48 - 41:53
    The securities of the church,
    he has given them instruction,
  • 41:53 - 41:57
    this girl should never
    come close to the gate.
  • 41:57 - 42:00
    He doesn't want to even
    hear that she existed.
  • 42:00 - 42:04
    I had nobody to reach out to me.
  • 42:04 - 42:07
    No one would believe me.
  • 42:07 - 42:13
    Nothing prepared me for that,
    for that life.
  • 42:14 - 42:19
    She was sent on the street as a begger.
  • 42:19 - 42:22
    And her dad is a multimillionaire.
  • 42:22 - 42:24
    And this is the same person that would
  • 42:24 - 42:30
    come out on TV doing charity,
    giving people a bag of rice.
  • 42:30 - 42:38
    You know how it is to survive
    in the street of Lagos?
  • 42:38 - 42:44
    It was as good as
    she was given a death sentence.
  • 42:46 - 42:49
    He never loved people.
  • 42:49 - 42:53
    He never cared for people.
  • 42:53 - 43:00
    He was just an opportunist
    feeding on vulnerable young people.
  • 43:00 - 43:01
    Amen.
  • 43:01 - 43:04
    The exact moment that Prophet TB, Joshua,
  • 43:04 - 43:08
    touched the photograph, we saw a wonderful
    example of God power on the scene.
  • 43:08 - 43:11
    I had worked for him for years.
  • 43:11 - 43:16
    I've sacrificed my life for this man,
    and yet Still,
  • 43:16 - 43:21
    I was not free from the problem that I'd
    gone there with, which was that I was gay.
  • 43:22 - 43:25
    All the blame was placed on me.
  • 43:25 - 43:30
    It was my lack of faith.
  • 43:30 - 43:34
    You used to see that isolation
    was the best way to receive Jesus.
  • 43:35 - 43:43
    I spent two years
    in the compound isolated.
  • 43:43 - 43:49
    I wasn't in a room, but no one
    was allowed to speak to me.
  • 43:49 - 43:52
    There were buildings that were under
  • 43:52 - 44:00
    construction, and I used to go there and
    smash my head against the wall.
  • 44:00 - 44:07
    I I had a complete mental breakdown,
    and I tried to commit suicide.
  • 44:07 - 44:14
    He knew how I felt, but he didn't care.
  • 44:14 - 44:19
    I began to realize that he
    wasn't who he said he was.
  • 44:20 - 44:23
    That was when I was able to face myself
  • 44:23 - 44:27
    for the first time at 33 years old and
    look in the mirror and say, You're gay.
  • 44:27 - 44:29
    Accept it.
  • 44:29 - 44:31
    Deal with it yourself.
  • 44:31 - 44:37
    This man can't help you.
  • 44:37 - 44:41
    When I eventually got out,
  • 44:41 - 44:48
    I started looking for people who over
    those 12, 13 years I had been with there.
  • 44:50 - 44:57
    And I just went down this rabbit hole
    of one horror to another horror.
  • 44:57 - 45:00
    People who were repeatedly reaped
  • 45:00 - 45:06
    People who'd had abortions, some Nigerian,
    some Ghanaian, some South African,
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    some Dutch, some from the UK,
    some from the States.
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    They're all coming back and saying,
    Ray, didn't you know?
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    You must have known.
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    I'm like, I didn't know.
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    Why am I going to stay there if I know
    this is happening to all these people?
  • 45:19 - 45:22
    And it was just...
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    It was horrifying.
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    You've got this man who positioned himself
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    as a father with many children and went on
    to rape, molest,
  • 45:37 - 45:46
    and abuse all these people who held
    that bond sacred and called him Daddy?
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    How is somebody like
    that permitted to walk free?
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    Founder of the Synagogue Church
  • 46:13 - 46:15
    of All Nations, Tibi Joshua has died.
  • 46:15 - 46:17
    He was 57 years old.
  • 46:17 - 46:20
    This is a big shock
    to millions of people around the world,
  • 46:20 - 46:25
    and of course, many people in Nigeria
    who were directly following Thibu Joshua.
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    There was no indication that the picture
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    was built before
    his death that has shocked his followers.
  • 46:29 - 46:31
    Thibu Joshua was
    the leader and found out-He was a God.
  • 46:32 - 46:34
    You never thought he would die.
  • 46:34 - 46:37
    Gosh, that is why people went crazy.
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    I don't know what to do.
  • 46:44 - 46:47
    He just lived us like this.
  • 46:47 - 46:50
    I cried when he died.
  • 46:50 - 46:57
    I cried for an apology
    that I will never receive.
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    The Nigerian Senate has
    held a minute silenced.
  • 47:01 - 47:04
    The lawmakers eulogized Prophet TB Joshua
    saying he
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    epitomised-He is probably one
    of the greatest conmen to ever exist,
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    to con so many millions of people
    into believing that you are holy.
  • 47:18 - 47:22
    It goes into glory,
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    where there's no more conflict,
    where there's no more strides.
  • 47:26 - 47:32
    The bad guy won, and very
    powerful men propped him up.
  • 47:32 - 47:34
    He had to have his enablers in the police
  • 47:34 - 47:40
    service, in the government, different
    politicians in different countries.
  • 47:40 - 47:42
    Nothing could bring him down.
  • 47:42 - 47:47
    We are your sweeters.
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    I want to tell my story to say that,
  • 48:26 - 48:29
    Look, it's not easy, but you'll be okay.
  • 48:29 - 48:36
    You can come out of this and you can
    heal and you can find life again after.
  • 48:36 - 48:39
    What kept me quiet was fear.
  • 48:39 - 48:46
    And fear is an illusion.
  • 48:47 - 48:50
    I'm proud of myself
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    for having the courage to tell
    the truth about who this man really was.
  • 48:58 - 49:00
    Here is my son.
    I missed you.
  • 49:00 - 49:01
    Here's my daughter.
  • 49:01 - 49:09
    The fact that I have two kids is a miracle
  • 49:10 - 49:14
    because of the trauma I experienced.
  • 49:15 - 49:20
    It's not been easy,
    but despite all the crying and being upset
  • 49:20 - 49:27
    and being upset about friends and family
    still there, I'm so grateful to be out.
  • 49:27 - 49:33
    I'm so grateful just to be free.
  • 49:43 - 49:48
    I I just want to go through my days
    where I'm at my lowest point.
  • 49:48 - 49:57
    And honestly, I just want more peace,
    like tranquility, stability.
  • 49:57 - 50:02
    I lost everything, my home, my family.
  • 50:02 - 50:06
    But for me, it comes down to the truth.
  • 50:07 - 50:14
    And for as long as there is breath in me,
    I'll defend that until the very end.
  • 50:39 - 50:49
    Good morning, viewers, all over the walls.
  • 50:49 - 50:52
    Good morning.
  • 50:52 - 50:54
    Good morning, Church.
  • 50:54 - 51:16
    It is the new dawn.
  • 51:24 - 51:24
    New done.
Title:
DISCIPLES: The Cult of TB Joshua, Ep 3 - The Collapse - BBC Africa Eye documentary
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Video Language:
English
Duration:
51:24

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