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- [Shannon] "The Venture
Brothers" is a cartoon
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about a lot of things.
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The go-to is it's a
show about failure,
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but I would say it's about
abuse and emotional neglect
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and the many failures
of masculinity
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and the horrible reality of
lives we romanticize culturally,
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the actuality of
these cultural myths,
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how awful they would
be if made real.
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[Rusty] The only people I get to
hang out with are grownups.
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The only time I get to leave
the compound is to go someplace
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creepy, like the
Bermuda Triangle.
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And then I get
kidnapped by grownups.
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- [Shannon] And what
it means to suffer
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and to have no
control over your life
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and to have your
dignity taken from you
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and to make horrible
mistakes and hurt people
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and then go on living.
To keep living.
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I know "BoJack Horseman"
is described similarly
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and I like BoJack all right.
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But I like "The
Venture Brothers" more
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and it's a very different show.
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It's not just a
show about failure.
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It's about how life is
failure, life is suffering.
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Life is comprised of let
downs and indignities
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and the brutality of the show,
the sometimes baseness of it.
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[Hank] I also heard that he sliced
off a kid's hand and ate it.
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Yeah, it was that big headed guy
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that operated on
your balls Dean. [Dean] HANK!
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- [Shannon] More often than not
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lends it an uncommon honesty.
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I can't think of a more sincere
TV show which if you've seen
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it is kind of a
funny thing to say.
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Plot wise, it's a show
about a pair of twins
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and their former Jonny
Quest-esque boy adventurer
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dad and his body guard.
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[Brock] For a minute there I
thought you were gonna do
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your killer hand thing. - [Phantom Limb] So did I.
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- [Shannon] And his
arch supervillain rival
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and his dead super scientist
father whose shadow
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he can never get out from under.
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- [Killinger] Do not call out to
your father to save you.
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He is the one who tied you up
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and buried your
dreams in this tomb.
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He commands these
creatures of the dark.
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Fear, self-loathing, stinkin'
thinkin', und dilly-dallying.
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- [Shannon] And the world
that these people live in.
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It's a world of super
scientists and supervillains
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and mercenaries and government
secret agents and so on.
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And it's like the truest
thing you'll ever see?
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Out of fiction, out of TV,
movies, books, whatever.
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I have never seen the truth
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of the frustration and
the misery of existing,
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especially existing
and experiencing trauma
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the way it's portrayed
on this show.
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I have never in my life seen
a truer and more enjoyable
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expression and fictional
entertainment of human misery.
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- [Jonas] Remember Rusty in here I'm
your doctor, not your father.
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Now let's get back
to it shall we?
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Now you were telling me
how you're ungrateful
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for all the opportunities
your father's given you
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and you blame me for
all your problems.
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- [Shannon] Dr. Venture super scientist
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and former boy adventurer
is a miserable person.
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[Doc] So you can see why
I've been reluctant
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to go back into therapy.
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- [Shannon] He's not the main
character per se,
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but he is the character
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at the center of everything
else, kind of the anchor
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that ties all the other
aspects of the show together.
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And he's not a good person,
but he's not not a good person
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the way Walter White is,
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the way all these
cable prestige TV
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morally ambiguous, middle
aged white men are.
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You're never in danger
of thinking he's cool
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or thinking he's
doing the right thing.
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He's pathetic, and there's a
lot of surface level parody
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humor derived from how deluded
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and how pathetic
he is initially.
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But every time the show
digs into his character
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and why he is the way
he is and just how awful
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celebrity and hero worship are.
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- [Hatred] So I can see why he's
your best friend, I mean-
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- [White] He's not my best friend.
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I just work with him.
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- [Hatred] And live with him and
do everything with him.
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That's best friends.
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- [White] Maybe.
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But I always thought of
Rusty as my best friend.
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- [Hatred] What?
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You know what White?
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You are a starf**ker.
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You have the greatest
friend in the world
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and because he's not
famous you don't care.
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You should be
ashamed of yourself.
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- [White] Rusty and I went
to school together.
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We were inseparable.
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- [Hatred] Starf**ker
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- [Shannon] And the
difference between a life lived
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and a life perceived
on television
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and what would drive
people to act the way
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they do in superhero shows.
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Again, the reality of that
kind of universe as populated
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by real human beings.
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- [Doc] Brock and the boys
are still trapped,
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probably dead by now.
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- [Orpheus] We must help them!
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- [Doc] No duh.
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I have a zero point magnet
somewhere around here
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that will take these
pyramid walls down on a jiff
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so thanks for nothing.
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- [Orpheus] Pyramid?
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- [Doc] Yeah we were
trapped in a pyramid.
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Some stupid cult
made a time machine.
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- [Orpheus] What pyramid cult?
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- [Shannon] And without
getting into spoilers,
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how a person's cruelty
and selfishness
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can have very far
reaching consequences,
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sometimes Dr. Venture's, but
often from other characters.
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But the show also celebrates
small victories and small joys
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all the time and explores
how you find meaning in life
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in spite of suffering
and how through accepting
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the horrible circumstances
of your weird life.
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I mean, what else can you do?
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You can get through it.
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And it's really funny.
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- [Orpheus] WHO IS HECTOR MOLINA
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AND WHY DO THEY KEEP SENDING ME HIS JUNK MAIL??
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[GGI] Hello.
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(baby babbling)
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Someone left their baby.
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- [Doc] Bill, bill,
bill, final notice.
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(dramatic music) AAGH!
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Oh, June 6th 2003.
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I really got to get my
s**t together.
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- [Shannon] Without
"The Venture Brothers"
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StrucciMovies and Critical
Bits wouldn't exist
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in the forms they exist now,
or wouldn't exist at all.
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And I know I would
be a different person
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if I had never gotten into
"The Venture Brothers"
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and been aware of the
circumstances of its creation
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of first one person,
then two people.
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- Hello, viewers,
I'm Doc Hammer.
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- And I'm "Jackson Publick".
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- We're from "The
Venture Brothers".
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- We made it up.
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- Would you please join
us for a very special
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venture brothers episode
tackling some of today's hottest
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teen issues like teen swearing.
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- And teen action.
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- And Tina Turner.
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- [Shannon] Who maybe second
only to like David Lynch
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and Mark Frost are at
the top of their field
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as far as getting their
specific vision onto television.
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And through that, making
something so weird and brutal
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and upsetting and uncompromising
and hysterically funny
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and depressing, then touching
then mean and funny again.
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And in later seasons gorgeous,
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like especially later
on the backgrounds,
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the production design, the
blocking with characters,
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it's just, it's a stunning
looking show on top of being
-
written so well and
performed so well.
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- [Red Death] The obsession
starts. The darkness.
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A man can do terrible things
when he's lost his way,
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terrible things.
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- [Shannon] A lot of
early venture brothers
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throws around the words
gay and retarded a lot,
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and there's some homophobic
and transphobic stuff.
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And if you're put off by that
or other offensive content
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in the show, then fair, it's
worth giving a warning about,
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and I'm not trying to
make anyone watch a show
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they'd find upsetting,
but I never once felt
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it was trying to be
deliberately offensive.
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It's more presenting this
world with these people
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not ever in an edgy way,
but in an honest way,
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and they're immature sometimes
cruel sometimes bigoted
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or ignorant people and a
lot of it is cleaned up
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as the show goes along
though on rewatch,
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not as fast as I would
have hoped or not as fast
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as I remembered it being,
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that stuff is in
the show for awhile.
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And I'm not saying it's
perfect representation,
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but the show goes some
interesting places
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with disabled characters
and gay male characters
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specifically, and has
a huge and very intense
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queer fan base, which I
would include myself in.
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I already really liked
"The Venture Brothers"
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and had for years and
years and earlier this year
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I finally caught up on
season six and seven
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and was completely blown away.
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"Hannibal" was my favorite
TV show and after watching
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the Blue Morpho arc of
"The Venture Brothers",
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I was just like,
wow, this is it.
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What can compete with this?
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Nothing.
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This is so fun and terrifying
and funny and deeply sad.
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It's not like, oh, I'm crying
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at this tear-jerker
sad, it's like, oh,
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this is tragic on a
level I feel in my soul,
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I feel this as a human being,
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while also being weird
and gross and pulpy
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and referential and pay
off after years and years
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of buildup venture
brothers is what you get
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when a medium self actualizes.
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I have multiple projects
in the works to go into
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the show's history
and analyze it.
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But in very brief here, Jackson
Publick was a storyboard
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artist and a comic artist
and he came up with the show
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and pitched it and got his
friend Doc Hammer involved
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to help him and they've written
almost every single episode.
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And I think Hammer edits the
show and Publick directs it
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and they voice most of the cast
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and it's been on 16 years
with only seven seasons
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because of how much work
they put in individually
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and how meticulous the
production of it is.
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I'd highly recommend
the art book,
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which has in depth sections
on the conception and history
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of every episode
through season six
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and is like 375 pages long.
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I'm going to be more
active than I usually am
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with this sort of situation
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in trying to get
the show uncanceled.
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I don't know how much
online petitions ever do,
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but I'll sign them.
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I'm going to write
letters and mail them.
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I'm going to keep
tweeting depressing tweets
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about how upset I am, whatever.
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And I've read HBO Max,
maybe picking up the show.
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But I also read a bunch about
how "Hannibal" was going
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to be picked up by a streaming
service when it got canceled
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and that was five years
ago and I'm still waiting.
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If right after I
put this video up
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it is announced that
"The Venture Brothers"
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is no longer canceled and
will be taken care of by HBO
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then like stellar,
I will be elated.
-
"The Venture Brothers" is just
such a perfect articulation
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of what it means to be human.
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Like I think of "Ikiru" and
I think of "The 400 Blows"
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as these sweet moving
works on, you know,
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these works on humanity
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or like "Bicycle
Thieves" or something.
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And I think through
it's darkness
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and its cruelty
and its crassness
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along with the earned
genuine sweet moments
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Venture Brothers makes
me feel the same way.
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And it's like these two New York
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art weirdos doing
cartoon voices together.
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- We have two voices that we
do that are almost the same voice
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there's the guy from
the The Council of 13.
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The one who speaks like this.
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And then he does Ghost Robot
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and they're really
long, horrible voices.
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I want to do a whole episode
that is just those two guys
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talking and just excruciating
everybody around them
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not having a good time.
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- [Shannon] Making
references to bands
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I've never heard of that I
especially never heard of
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when I was 13, when
the show started.
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- We've been trying to get
into an episode since day one
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and it's not even funny.
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- It's really not gonna be funny
with all this build up.
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- You guys won't even,
you won't like it
-
but we want Hank to go, "Stop
wasting all my time-time!"
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which is like the world's w-
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- [Jackson in Hank Voice] "Wasting
all my time-time!"
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(audience laughing) - [Jackson] Little miss little miss can't be wr- I was gonna say that-
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It's kind of based on, uh, little miss little miss cant be wrong
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- But it's from a Cars song
and I just think it'd be
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so funny if Hank for some
reason knows a Cars song.
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'Cause he has this
like weird recollection
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of crap that never
happened to him.
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- [Hank] And they kill clean.
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Don't let dames get in the way.
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- [Brock] Honestly, Hank, where
do you pick that stuff up?
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I never see you read.
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- [Dean] It's weird, right?
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- [Brock] It's like he channels
dead crazy people.
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- [Hank] You think it's a cry for help?
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- [Shannon] I'm around 30
now and it's been a part
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of my brain for that
long, part of how I draw
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and how I look at visual art.
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And even more than that,
an inspiration to me
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creatively overall, their
work showed me that something
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so unique and so special and
so, so dense and sprawling
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and so unconcerned
with popular appeal.
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Some of the show is just
cruel and revolting,
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one of the main
cast is a pedophile,
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could exist and it
inspired me a lot.
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I never get a lot of views
on my YouTube channel,
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but I do make what
I want to make
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with little regard to views
and I'm really proud of that.
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And Doc Hammer and Jackson
Publick and their whole attitude
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towards the art they make
is a big reason for that.
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Even if I make dumb video
essays and not an adult
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swim cartoon, I
mean, coincidentally,
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I just quoted Hammer in a
video I put out last month,
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the comedy one, the show has
been a creative influence
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on me and an influence
on me as a person
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since before I became
an adult a long time.
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It's two art weirdos who
loved comics and loved movies
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and loved music and had this
story they wanted to tell
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and they told it until
because capitalism
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has a stranglehold
on any art being made
-
in the country I live in,
-
I guess it was no longer
profitable enough,
-
just like "Hannibal" wasn't.
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I don't know.
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I don't know the circumstances
of it's cancellation.
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I hope something happens
and they can continue.
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If you can do something
to help make that happen.
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Please do.
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If you have Hulu, the
whole show is on Hulu.
-
First season is a little
rough, but by two or three
-
it picks up a lot and by four
and five it's really, really
-
good and by six and
seven it's transcendent.
-
Specifically like I said,
the Blue Morpho arc,
-
it's like a three episode arc.
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And I think after
that, The Monarch
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who was like Dr. Venture's rival,
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I had always liked
that character
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but after that I think he
became my favorite character
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and everything that happens
in it is just incredible.
-
Also some of what I said
in the intro to this video
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about the characters
changes as the show goes on,
-
I know that please don't be
a pedant in the comments.
-
I said what I said to
avoid spoiling people.
-
Speaking of spoilers,
here's part of a clip
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I thought was really
nice that Ken Plume
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tweeted to close out.
-
It's a song Publick and
Hammer wanted to use
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for the ending of a
season three episode,
-
but weren't able to
get the rights to
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and Plume edited
music over the clip.
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I think I saw it before
when he had initially
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tweeted it out a while ago,
-
but he tweeted it again
after the cancellation
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and I've just been
like sitting here,
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watching it over and over
and getting emotional.
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The song is "Not The
First Time" by Neil Innes.
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The episode is The
Invisible Hand of Fate
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and here it is.
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- [Hatred] Dismissed, Samson!
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- [Brock] What about the kid?
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- [Hatred] What, do you want to adopt him?
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I said take it on the arches.
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Psi-Ops needs guinea pigs for
the memory wipe project, okay?
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So, unlike you, he
still works here.
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(somber music)
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♪ No, this is not
the first time ♪
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♪ Or the last time
we shall meet ♪
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♪ It's hard to understand
the circumstances ♪
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♪ And so easy to be indiscreet ♪
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♪ Of all the chances
we are given ♪
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♪ Which one can we take? ♪
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♪ And after all the indecision ♪
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♪ Do we have a choice to make? ♪