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Rio de Janeiro is known as "the divided city"
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It is a term that was coined about the reality of Rio de Janeiro
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The revolution has already begun... I think that we
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can exist in the vision of the city, and no longer
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as a "divided city," as though the favela doesn't exist.
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We have to glue together the informal part
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of the city, to the formal part of the city,
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We have to integrate, unite.
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Because everything that comes out of the favela
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goes into the rest of the world, and that's where that concept of interconnectedness
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cannot be denied, and so I think it's also
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important for people to get connected to the fact that
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there is a lot of poverty in the world, that there's massive urbanization in the world,
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and this where the favelas are coming from. Now we have 80, 90% of our population
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living in dense urban situations, and most of these are slum situations.
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And they're growing, and they're growing...
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"Favela" is a word that's Brazilian Portuguese that represents
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communities, or shantytowns, or informal communities that have over time
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become more and more formal because of their concrete structures here in Brazil,
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but effectively there are similar places all around the world.
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Serious problems of exclusion for young people, issues around confidence and schooling,
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teaching young people that they can't rather than they can.
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Most poor people are in the favelas, most black people are in the favelas,
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most violence among young people is in the favelas,
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most lack of infrastructure is in the favelas.
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It has to be done in the favelas so that that these people, and their kids
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in the future deal with less problems than they are dealing with today.
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So I think it's about making urban centers whole
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and trying to find ways to include those excluded areas into the mainstream.
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If we have a state that's deficient in the provision of its services,
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and you have a problem in your face, what capabilities and resources
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do we have to use to turn this problem that we have into something
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that can be useful and positive for the community?
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The biggest growth of cities in the world is going to be in developing countries and for the first time
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in human history, more people are living in cities than not in cities
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and favelas are the segment of cities that are going to grow the most
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so it's very special to have this kind of innovation here and hopefully the elements and the sequencing
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that came together can be disseminated and adapted somewhere else
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to be developed, in Rio, in Brazil, and around the world.
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Rio de Janeiro has 1.4 million people living in favelas, in informal housing.
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That is 22% of the population of Rio de Janeiro.
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So it's not correct, it's not dignified that this huge number of people
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be stigmatized for living in informal housing. This is part of the history of the city.
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We have over 1020 favelas in the state of Rio de Janeiro, over 780
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within the municipal area of Rio de Janeiro, and favelas are part of the city.
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The favelas of Rio de Janeiro are at least 100 years old, the first was Providencia,
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but they grew in the middle of the last century,
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basically because of a migratory influx from Northeast Brazil, a part of Minas Gerais.
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This process also affected me, I am from the Northeast.
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That was a world that I knew well and so I increasingly
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seek to find different types of solutions.
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It is a chaotic thing, the city grows in a chaotic way
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and the communities started to manage themselves, organize the space
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in the way that they could.
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Only that the community didn't have a way to expand.
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It started to expand vertically, so the roofs of the houses served as foundations.
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Instead of expanding the house, the (roof) became the foundation for another house for another family.
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Now, to translate favela as "slum," I think is a mistake.
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When you enter the communities, you will find
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very well-structured houses, very well constructed,
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with all types of internal comfort.
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There is water, electricity, telephone, internet.
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It wouldn't be a "slum."
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It would be more like neighbourhoods that don't have public services,
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that are not regulated by the government.
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Various realities exist within the same favela, and various realities exist from favela to favela.
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Each community has its own reality.
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This favela is more than 100 years old, and if you ask someone if they want to leave here,
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they would say, "No, I don't want to leave here."
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Some favelas are associated with poverty,
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extreme poverty, as we see in Maré, Manguinhos, etc.
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Now, other favelas have social cycles
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of generations, years and years...
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I am the third generation.
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If the media shows that the resident is simply studying, developing a project,
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this does not bring a lot of attention, but if they show cases of violence, shoot outs,
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comparing a favela to a war between two countries,
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the number of deaths, this does get a lot of attention
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and the result is that it shows other countries, other people
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that it is violent here, but it's not really like this.
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Before I came to live in a favela, I used to watch soap operas when I was in Senegal.
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I saw how people were from the soap opera,
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they put the focus just on how miserable are people, how poor are people.
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So I always had an idea about the favela: favela is a place that is unsafe, that has drug dealers
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that has this criminality and so on.
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So you would never think that if you come to Brazil
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the best place to stay is in a favela.
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But when I came here I really changed my mind,
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and I used to say that whoever wants to know Brazil should come to...
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-of course, visit Ipanema, go to the other Brazilian nice places-
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but if you want to really know Brazil, you should also visit at least one favela.
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When I arrived here 20 years ago, Rio de Janeiro was a city that everyone loved for its beauty
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but it had an aspect that was obviously in decline, and this lasted for a long time.
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We got used to turning on the television to see the new tragedy Rio de Janeiro presented,
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each one more barbaric than the previous.
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And this is very connected to a question of public security
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that is much more complex, it is not only a question of
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police repression or controlling these armed domains
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but involves a series of social questions.
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Some time ago, a new security policy emerged which is the UPPs,
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the police units in the areas that before were areas dominated by gangs
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and clearly outside of the sphere of public authority in Rio.
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It is a very controversial question, the UPPs
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but from my perspective, extremely positive.
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The program has existed for four years,
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it makes it possible for the favelas to have an opening never before seen,
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at least not in the twenty years that I have lived here following this matter.
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I have the impression that before the pacification the work would have been more difficult because of the local violence.
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I think there is a certain romanticism of what drug trafficking was,
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I think that drug trafficking continues to exist.
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The mission of the UPPs- the Police Pacifying Units
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is NOT to eradicate the drug trafficking industry.
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This was never the objective.
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I think that what couldn't keep happening was the ostentatious display of weapons,
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that trivialization of laws, because we need public security here also,
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just as we have public security in the asphalt (formal city).
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I think that many problems could be avoided if the police had a different attitude,
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less warlike, less militarized, and more humanitarian.
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I think that they don't need to be so militarized, you don't need rifles up here!
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We are not in a war!
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So I think we need public security, just as we need public utilities,
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just as we need housing, and everything that any other part of the city has.
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It's every citizen's right.
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The city is passing through a moment of transformation
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and it is interesting that, regardless of the motivations,
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whether it's the Olympics, the World Cup, the oil,
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but somehow the issue of favelas has been brought to the table.
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I act where the state does not invest.
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A person from the community, that was born and raised here,
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has a different power than someone coming from the outside.
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Our greatest enemy is hunger, unstructured families,
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the lack of infrastructure, open sewage systems, the lack of water, the issues of electricity, trash...
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So I think it is a time of learning not only for communities but for NGOs as well.
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We learn a lot from them (the communities).
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I would improve the sewer system because it is leaking,
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the pot holes on the street,
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and I would put another bus stop, people have to climb Rocinha to catch the bus,
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and I would circulate more buses through Rocinha, there are very few.
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Look, something I would change is transportation, the first thing.
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And the second thing is a bank, which we don't have here.
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But transportation is the worst of all.
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Here we improvise a lot. The people improvise in order to survive.
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We have a saying here in Brazil that we sell lunch to buy dinner,
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and it is more or less this. We endure during the day so that when we arrive home,
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our families have a little more comfort.
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But tomorrow is another struggle, a battle, and this battle doesn't end.
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There are still serious human rights violations
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mainly of women and children... children that are exploited for domestic labour,
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kids that are not in school,
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and we cannot close our eyes to these situations.
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From the moment that citizenship arrives, that you pay taxes,
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you can start making demands.
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Before this was a lawless territory.
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The state didn't come, the state didn't participate.
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They knew that there were human beings here but
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they didn't treat them like humans; they treated them like trash.
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Today no, nowadays the state has a different perspective
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which is directly conditioned by NGOs and global entities that have realized
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that human beings exist here, that they are part of Rio de Janeiro.
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I always felt I was part of the city, even when there was drug trafficking,
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I never thought of myself as different from them.
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But I want them to see me as equal, as a resident of the city.
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Here you have professionals of high quality in all areas
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you have good builders, bakers, pharmacists,
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students with post-secondary education,
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there is everything in the community.
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But these people weren't given the right to feel like professionals
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because they live in a poor place.
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As soon as you live in a poor place, you are a terrible baker, a terrible builder, a terrible anything
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because you don't exist when you live in that place.
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So in the Third World, people are valued by their address, by their appearance, by their connections.
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They forget that actually you are measured by the fruits of your labour, if your labour has value or not,
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this is how you will be measured.
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Communication today, mainly through the social networks,
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is able to give us strength, we are able to mobilize
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The social networks today, for me stopped being
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an informal chat between friends or a search for people.
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I think that we can work professionally, work for a greater cause,
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a social objective, to mobilize, to prompt reflections, to provoke debates,
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shape opinions, and to construct these opportunities.
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The time is right for us to implement, within the communities and within Rio de Janeiro itself,
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a more positive view, less hostile,
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and one of individual liberty,
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so that people can have the right to realize their dreams.
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This is what it means to be a citizen.
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From the moment that you can't dream, that you can't realize your dreams, you aren't anything.
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You are a prisoner, you don't have bars,
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but the bars of poverty, oppression, prejudice, are blocking you.
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Why does living in a favela have to be a marginal life?
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Why can't we transform this place into a dignified space to live?
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The favela has culture, the favela has different ways of life, that can teach us a lot.
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There are many values in the favela,
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and the favela can stop being a problem and start being a solution.
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My life story?
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My life story, well I was born and raised in Complexo do Alemão.
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I lived my whole childhood here, it was a good childhood.
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At 14 or 15 years old, I got involved in drug trafficking
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where I used to buy food for the drug dealers, I was carrying weapons, transporting drugs.
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I spent many years in this.
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I lost my childhood, I lost friends.
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In the drug trade, I discovered literature, I discovered books.
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That's when I dedicated myself to studying again.
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I started to like books, it was a way to free myself from what was happening in the community.
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What took me out of that life was education.
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I think that we need to change the paradigm of education in Brazil.
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We have to see education as an investment in the future.
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Perhaps you or I will not see the results of this,
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but certainly my children, or my grandchildren, will live in a more just world
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if we invest in education today.
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To change this idea is very hard,
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but it is a challenge.
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In education, we need a lot more daycare centres.
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We have 4 or 5 daycare centres constructed for the community,
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but this does not meet the needs of 140,000 inhabitants.
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We only have one high school which cannot support the whole community.
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If the kid can't be a soccer player, what will he be? He needs education.
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This is the foundation of everything. As Monteiro Lobato said,
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"A country is built with men and books."
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Here our country is built with men and guns, and books are left to the side.
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For me, the main thing is education.
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it is what brought me here today.
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I am here today because of education.
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If not, only God knows where I would be today.
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The most exciting thing is to hear the stories of the students
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because of the excitement of the child.
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An example, which is so exciting! The kids have a lot of difficulty with division.
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But when the child understands division- I had a kid that fell off her chair!
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Because she was so excited, she finally understood something that didn't make sense before!
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Folks, no kidding... The child might never return to tutoring,
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but something will stay with her.
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One day I was taking my oldest son to school
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and a little girl of 4 or 5 years asked me two questions.
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The first was, "Are you a ballet teacher?"
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And the second, "And when will you give me classes?"
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And for the first time in my life I entered a favela,
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a favela full of armed people, where drug trafficking dominated the community,
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and I offered to volunteer, and I started giving classes to 12 girls.
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And there were more than 100 children wanting to do ballet classes.
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So I saw that alone, I wouldn't be able to provide all that these children needed.
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These children were victims of domestic violence, exploited in child labour,
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sexual abuse, and many other violations.
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The ballet classes were a fun space for these children, but they needed much more.
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From the moment we founded the institution
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we started to broaden the support, not only for the kids but for their families and for the community.
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Usually, these extra activities are just for people who are really rich.
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So you register your kids in a swimming pool to do some swimming course,
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soccer course, volleyball course, ballet dance course,
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Imagine if poor people want to do the same, and pay. They will not be able to afford it.
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But here we let them live as they are, in the same level as every kid in the world.
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So we understand that only education can transform a person's life, regardless of where they're living,
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where they were born. What matters is where they want to go.
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We want to decrease social exclusion through these opportunities
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and for equality to be achieved through education.
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I've run a project in Morro dos Prazeres, in the Central-South Zone, for 11 years.
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It is called Colectiva Galera.com.
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It is a series of transformations. I was a dancer for many years,
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and so I started with a dance group in Prazeres.
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I didn't want to recruit talents, nothing like that,
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I wanted to use art as a dimension that is capable of making huge transformations
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in the world of these boys and girls.
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After came galera.com, which is a nucleus of audio-visual and graphic design.
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This group had great difficulty with literary expression,
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but they had an incredible visual capacity to express themselves.
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So I wanted to work with this talent that is also art,
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and be able to give them a means of expression based on their realities.
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I think the idea was to use DJing and music as a form of media, of self-expression to get the word out.
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Of course, to showcase the life in the favelas.
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I have always been about showing people the other side.
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I think the biggest thing that really upsets me,
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and why I got involved tourism as well,
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was to show the other side, to show that favelas are not these garbage pit holes
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of just crime and bad people and drug dealers and murder...
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You know after a while we get tired of this idea.
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I had a personal tragedy, I was rescuing a kid
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that died in my arms because of drug trafficking
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so I wanted to do something to change the future of these youth.
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They had too much idle time, they would be a tool for the drug traffickers, or worse things.
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I matured and saw that through Jiu-Jitsu I could attract young people to my martial art.
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These kids have a different mindset today.
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No one talks about guns anymore, no one fantasizes, "I will be the best gangster in the world".
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Before it was like this.
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Now they only talk about Jiu-Jitsu, Jiu-Jitsu, Jiu-Jitsu, 24 hours a day.
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I started Luta Pela Paz (Fight For Peace) primarily to access and engage young people
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that are involved in drug trafficking.
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Rio has a serious issue with young people's involvement in armed groups
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who dominate communities like Maré.
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Unfortunately this is a problem that affects almost all favelas across the city.
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So in the beginning I think it was an instinctive response to a very tragic situation,
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and that was my instinctive response.
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I was walking in a community, I literally turned a corner and walked into a young person
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holding what I later learned was an M16
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and instead of immediately being terrified, my first thought was, what a tragedy, this is terrible
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what a waste of life for a 13-year-old to be in a sitaution like this.
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Fear definitely came later, but that was the initial response.
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So it was an instinctive response to "What can I do about this situation?"
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I had been boxing as a young person, I knew the power of boxing
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in terms of engaging and accessing young people that don't traditionally go to other sorts of projects.
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So as a first step that's what Luta Pela Paz was, it was a boxing club that had
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what was called a citizenship class at the time
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where young people would have a chance to discuss and form opinions
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and learn about cognitive thinking processes.
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We are developed as beings living in green spaces, and we feel instinctively the need
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to have more of that in cities around the world.
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I think it is very special here because it has been done by the citizens of a favela in a developing country.
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Favelas have high density, low presence of autos,
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low carbon dioxide and greenhouse gas emissions.
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If you make infrastructure better, education, health, security,
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it could be a model of sustainability for developing cities around the world.
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So I think this is the most crucial time to start working on environmental issues
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because after that they will start to become more like the formal city
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where it's really hard to change the way we live,
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so I think this is a really good opportunity to start imagining new ways to live in a city
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and live in harmony with the environment.
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So the idea here is to remove the trash.
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The focus and philosophy of Sitiê is to "liposuction" the land,
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to remove the surface trash and dig out the trash from underneath.
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It's not like the guy who only to removes some trash and leaves.
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Our philosophy is to clean the land, to "liposuction" the land so we can plant.
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From there emerged recycling, landscaping, vegetable garden, fruits,
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and later there will be environmental education, to educate the children with gardens.
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But first thing is to clean the land. We want to transform what is ugly into something beautiful.
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To transform a dump into a paradise like this one.
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Our project aims to diminish trash in the community.
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Reciclart works with dry trash, but in the beginning,
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it wasn't successful because people don't value trash, right?
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So the idea of Reciclart in 2013 is to make handbags of milk cartons
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which will be produced for the gay community, the LGBT community
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and the bags will have written phrases against prejudice, against homophobia, against violence
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and the idea is that we work with our community.
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I saw on TV that this was the dirtiest community in Rio de Janeiro.
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My friend Nivaldo and I were outraged by this.
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Caramba! We live in the dirtiest place in Rio de Janeiro
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and we aren't doing anything to change this, man?
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And so far we have changed the awareness of the people, which was our primary intention,
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to throw trash in the proper places, to start to clean the community.
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Today, we see that trash, in fact, does bring problems,
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but the whole problem is not just the trash, it's the logistics; it is what to do with the trash.
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The absence of public authority is very notable here in the community.
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We thought about it, because I am a musician and like to compose,
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I made music to raise environmental awareness, and played it on the community radios.
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People passed by, "Oh the music is playing, don't throw trash on the ground, let's throw it is in the correct place."
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People picked up the trash and threw it in the correct place.
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When there were places where people didn't hear it, we had this...
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This little sign that we tore down after the political campaign
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and we started to put these signs in the alleys of the community, saying,
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"Folks? Throw trash on the ground? NO! NO! NO!"
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It was an awesome idea, and also used recycled material.
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So if the government supported these initiatives,
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we could create healthier communities, a healthier Rio de Janeiro.
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If I had money, I would invest in this project
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because it is a project that is working, we are replicating and it is succeeding.
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And there are a lot of young people that came for the sport and are now in the Brazilian Team Selection,
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just like I am, because of the project.
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If this project didn't believe in me, where would I be, since age 14?
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I could be in jail, I could be dead.
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And today my goal is the Olympics.
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Today, what is lacking, not only in Brazil or Rio de Janeiro,
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is the bridge between international investors and local projects.
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I think that the financial return, which is a thing that donors are worried about,
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the social impact of their investment,
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I think that for the investor, to have this guarantee of the local social project,
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this bridge, it serves as a seal of approval.
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I think the return for the investor would be greater
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by investing in a local project that bears fruits.
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You get a chance to experience these local social projects.
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Because otherwise, how would Canada, Indonesia, Thailand know about a project in Brazil? And vice versa.
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The beauty of having this local-global thing going on, is these networks. You know,
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we're all living in this kind of cyber world where we can access people and resources like that from anywhere.
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A big characteristic of this work is to form partnerships.
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We never had any support, we've worked for 11 years without... Well, support, no, we've had a lot of support.
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Many people have got involved in this, but we never had sponsors.
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So what we've accomplished is because of what we call NGIs...
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...Non-Governmental Individuals- which was a play on the term NGOs.
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It was one step above volunteering, but below the complexity of an NGO,
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and these were the NGIs, and any person that could collaborate in this way did.
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We put it all together and from there created a large mosiac
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that impacted the lives of tens and hundreds of kids throughout the years.
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There is a direct channel to talk with us here in the institution,
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you can contact us via the website and we can exchange ideas and see what is the best way to help.
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Sometimes people think that they can't help, "Oh, I don't have financial resources."
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But it goes beyond financial resources. Sometimes a letter for a child,
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volunteer work can make all the difference.
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Understand the following: people, let's not try to reinvent the wheel,
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let's see what is already happening locally and try to help these local initiatives.
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Another important thing is that the NGOs often work with the potential of the local resident.
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It is interesting, the NGOs are closer, talk more with the resident.
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The state is a little further away in this sense.
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When they develop projects, often it comes from the top down.
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The NGOs already communicate more with the local resident,
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and start to discover the ability of the resident to develop the project.
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I am not going to be able to change the world.
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But if I can do a small part for my people, that already will be doing a lot.
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Even without financial support, sponsorship, I think that the work has to proceed like this.
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And it's also around saying, "What can I do as an individual, what's that instinctive response that I can do?",
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which was my first step into Maré, "What do I understand?"
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Well, I know boxing, and I know that having boxed in a number of places it's a great way to talk to young people.
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So what should I do? Let's set up a boxing club here with a social focus.
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I'm not saying that everyone has to do a similar thing,
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but potentially they could find out another organization in communities near to them
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that need their support and need their time. It could be an hour a week.
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That makes a big difference.
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I want to take advantage of this interview, for people to hear this, and come to talk with us.
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Come to visit the projects here in the community, the goal of each project,
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sit down with us, see our proposals and what we have done without help from anyone,
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our own initiative, our outrage wanting to change our community.
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The idea of the NGIs- the Non-Governmental Individuals- is a two-way street.
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It is an affirmation of this connection, our shared values,
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greater than one-time donations which only exist for a limited time.
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We need one-time donations for sure, we always need resources
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for the ideas that are never-ending in this creative group.
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But the most interesting kind of support that can be offered
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is the visibility of their work outside of the country, outside of Rio
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outside of their own favela, and also learning about experiences from abroad.
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This exchange is the greatest benefit we can have.
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We see that there are people with the same objectives
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that need the opportunity to meet
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in order join forces and really strengthen
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what is happening in my, your, our area, and in our world.
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Something that the community, all of us are learning is the following:
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If we don't come together, there is no possibility (of success).
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Being informed and being educated, inform yourself, find out what is really going on.
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The information that you are being told on television may be real, it may not be.
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And the idea is this: it is to unite the city, to weave people together and strengthen this social network.
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I think that we can share the tools that we have,
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the expertise that we have gained here, we can replicate it in other places, in other countries, in other states.
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We've learned two fundamental points.
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First, always give a chance to the improbable.
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The improbable is not the impossible.
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Sometimes, there is possibility when we think there is none.
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Another lesson that we can pass on,
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not only for Brazil but for other communities around the world,
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is the power of outrage.
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When the human beings lose the power to become outraged,
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because of human rights violations, wars, and oppression, they lose the essence of their own being.
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A person who has the power to become outraged, is moved by an energy, a force,
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to allocate resources, to mobilize people, to unite forces in order to change the situation.
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When we lose the power of outrage, things stop. The world doesn't evolve.
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This was a collective learning here in the institution.
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So the multiplication of this outrage promotes the unity of people,
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and when you can unite people for the common good, you have a huge transformative force.
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I think we are in a moment of new paradigms, the 21st century.
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What worked in the 20th century won't work anymore in the 21st century.
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What we are seeking is no longer money, it is no longer financial gain.
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I think that we are starting to find another truth.
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The right to come and go,
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the right to choose,
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freedom for children to play, to run in the streets.
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The majority of houses don't have space, don't have a yard,
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so the kids play, run, enjoy the school holidays.
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Before, at least in my time, the community did not have this freedom,
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to fly kites, to play soccer in the streets.
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These are rights.
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There are many good people here.
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The best thing inside this community is its people, our community itself.
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The sense of solidarity is very strong.
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One helps the other, a neighbour is always concerned
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about whether their neighbours have food or not.
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If there is smoke in a house, everyone worries if there is a fire,
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if someone fell asleep with a pot on the stove, if there's an iron plugged in.
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It's a sense of unity and solidarity that sometimes is missing
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in many places of the country, even in the world.
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