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-okay.
-welcome.
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Hi.
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Thanks for sitting down with us.
We appreciate it.
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Would you recount for me
the incident where you were wounded?
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Well, I was standing...
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...on the top of this hill
at the aid station...
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...and a random shell came in.
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It couldn't have gone off
more than 10 feet away...
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... because all I remember
is a tremendous blast and a flash.
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And the next thing I knew,
I was on the ground in the snow...
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...and I tried to get up.
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And when I tried to get up, l....
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only thing I could see
were the broken ends of my legs.
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And I thought my legs
were gone. I was--
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Because that's all--
Both femurs were shattered.
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They were laying down here as I was
on my back, trying to raise my legs up.
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And I thought:
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"I'm dead," you know,
"I'm about to die."
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And I said--
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I said my Act of Contrition,
because I am a Catholic.
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And then the next thing
I thought of was my mother.
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And I thought,
"What's she gonna say?"
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Because I was an only child.
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My name is C. Carwood Lipton.
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I was born in Huntington, west Virginia.
Grew up in Huntington.
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Frederick T. Heyliger. Concord,
Massachusetts was my hometown.
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I was born in a town named
lnchelium, Washington.
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It's on an lndian reservation.
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My name's j.B. Stokes.
I was born close to Bonham, Texas...
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...in an area called Leonard.
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Born and raised in Columbus, Ohio...
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...my dad worked for the railroad.
My mom was a housewife.
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My nickname was Babe.
And my mother...
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...she was a little lrish broad.
Red hair. Fiery.
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Great woman.
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Born and raised in Philadelphia,
where times were tough.
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Mom had 10 children,
so you had to work to survive.
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It was just survival
in the streets of Philadelphia.
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We came up in the Depression. Sometimes
we'd live on a farm and have...
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... pigs and raise a garden.
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I saw people that really were hungry
and had hard times.
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My father was able to find employment.
We never went hungry.
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We lived on a farm. Everybody
was poor. That was the Depression.
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When I got to about 10,
I got a paper route.
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I made $5 a month. Something like that.
But it was something.
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There's a work ethic the Pennsylvania
Dutch in this area are very proud of.
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I was the oldest one, so I sort of
branched out on my own at an early age.
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I was married when I was
19 years old in 1941.
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on December 7 of '41...
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...we were in a store,
and a guy, he says:
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"The U.S.A. is in a war with japan."
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And everything just went silent.
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I said, "Let's go in the Army."
He said, "l don't want to."
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I said, "You're gonna have
to go sooner or later."
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Something was wrong with you
if you weren't in the service.
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It was what you had to do.
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I wasn't gonna be in the infantry.
I was gonna be in some...
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...top kind of a unit,
or I wasn't gonna be in the Army.
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LIFE magazine had run
an article on paratroopers...
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...sometime in early 1942.
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And it told about the
training that they got...
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...and the difficult physical
requirements, and I got interested...
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...in seeing if I could
become a paratrooper.
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Nobody forced you to do this,
you volunteered.
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And it was the notion...
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...that you wanted to do something.
You wanted to be with the best.
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But once you got in there,
you was proud to be.
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we was proud of our boots,
and our shoulder patch.
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And we was proud to be paratroopers.
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And we was proud to be working with
the guys we were working with.
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You know these people
that you're in service with....
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You know those people better than
anybody in your life.
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You know them right down
to the final thing.
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And that comes when you start
your training, while that progresses.
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-Each man was like a championship boxer.
-out of 100%, only 10% made it.
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-I thought I'd die.
-No holding back.
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-You had to hang in there and be tough.
-We marched 118 miles in three days.
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The training I got
and the men I trained with...
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...gave me the confidence
to go into battle.
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We were just a bunch of ordinary kids
when we went in.
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The training was to build you up
physically and mentally.
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Some of them lost as much as 40 pounds.
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But I didn't have nothing to lose.
I weighed about 130.
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If I lost 40 pounds,
I'd have been too small to stay.
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You know, they weeded out so many.
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They'd be there one day,
and they'd be gone the next.
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They couldn't keep up with it.
They couldn't take that hard training.
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You had the cream
of the cream of the cream.
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we had to climb this mountain called
Currahee every morning. Run up and back.
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If you couldn't,
you'd end up in another unit.
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The name Currahee means
"We stand alone together."
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That's an lndian name.
It became a symbol of the camp...
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...because it was rough and tough,
going up and down.
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A lot of times, when some of the guys
would go and get them a drink or so...
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...you'd see them laying on the road,
where they were sick.
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It didn't matter how hard you trained
and how tired you got...
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...you would still go out on your own
and run the mountain at night...
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...which was ridiculous
because during the day...
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...all you did was bitch and moan.
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At night, they'd get a couple guys
and go up and do it on your own.
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we learned how to be
soldiers at Toccoa...
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...as a group, all of us coming in...
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...from no experience
in the Army at all...
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...coming in directly
from civilian life.
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I'm gonna say this,
I believe...
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...that the paratroopers
of the 101st Airborne Division...
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...was as well-trained as you
could get a soldier to be at that time.
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-We packed our own chutes.
-Nervous as hell.
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You're asking yourself,
"What am I doing here?"
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-Coming down is great.
-lt affects everybody different.
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-I broke my foot.
-You're dropping 16 feet a second.
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I can remember
just like it was yesterday.
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That morning after breakfast...
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...they marched us all
out there to the airfield.
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There were guys
that already made their jump.
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And they were all hollering,
"You're gonna be sorry!" You know?
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You didn't want
to be afraid, you know...
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...because these other guys are there
with you. Your bravado and all that....
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You didn't wanna be afraid,
so you kept that out of your mind.
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Jumping out of a plane wasn't like
today. My first flight up, I jumped.
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That was years before
I landed an aircraft.
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Most of the troopers
was the same story.
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Foolishly, I didn't think
it'd be so tough, but....
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The first time-- The first jump
you make is not all that bad.
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You don't know what you're doing.
When you step out...
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...the chute just opened right then.
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As I went out the door, I was blank.
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I cannot remember leaving the plane...
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...until after the chute
opened up. My God.
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But after that, it wasn't as bad.
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It was a thrill.
It was like going on a roller coaster.
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You get off
and want to get back on.
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It was a thrill.
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It was a high, as they say these days.
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Everybody enJoyed themselves.
Landing was the hardest part.
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once that chute opened,
I was happy as a lark.
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You know, coming down is great.
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I was small too, and I didn't
hurt myself when I hit the ground.
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Some of the big ones hit
like a ton of-- what's his name?
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You worried most about your chute.
Did you pack it right?
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You'd pack it one day and jump the next
day. You thought about it all night.
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You had...
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...ideas of what you might
have done wrong, or....
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But it worked out fine.
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We made five jumps
in the third week there.
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Then you were a qualified paratrooper.
Got your wings pinned on...
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...and became one of the elite members
of the parachute regiment.
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We were thoroughly prepared.
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The men were...
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...trained, hardened...
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... physically and mentally.
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And they were ready to jump.
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That's how we started
off for Normandy.
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When you walk up that gangplank,
you know you're gone.
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As you pull out of harbor,
and you pass the Statue of Liberty....
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"Will I ever be coming back?
I don't know."
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You know you're in a parachute troop.
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You're gonna be jumping behind
enemy lines. what do you expect?
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You have no idea.
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That'll make anybody stand...
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...and search his soul
for a few minutes.
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We were ready.
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We were stationed in England
for about a year before D-Day.
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we had a lot of maneuvers
and parachute jumping.
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They put us in a camp...
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... preparing us for D-Day.
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At just about a week before D-Day...
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...they put us in. No liberties, no
nothing. You couldn't get out of camp.
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They had guards around
the marshaling area...
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...so nobody could leave.
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That's when you felt
that, "This is it."
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We did not know which day.
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we did not know where we were
gonna jump until we were locked in.
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And then they had the briefing...
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...to tell you exactly
what your mission was.
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And they took this map...
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...and they made a model
of the features of the land.
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They put in all the buildings,
the bridges, the knolls...
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...all the sand dunes.
Everything was in on that layout.
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We knew it by heart.
We knew where we were going.
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We knew exactly what to do.
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I mean, if you could've been there
at the time to see...
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...where the planes were lined up and
all the gliders hooked up to the planes.
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T anks and trucks
and fields and fields of them.
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I had no idea that there was
that much hardware.
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No question, we knew
it was gonna be big.
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And that day...
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...that we got the orders
to get on the planes.... This is it.
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We had confidence in our leaders...
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...and all the plans and preparations
that took place before the invasion.
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We were confident and calm.
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we were all loaded down. we carried
everything we thought we could...
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...in the line of personal items...
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... plus the necessary things
we were assigned to carry.
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And we were loaded.
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Everybody got in there...
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...and a lot of them were
very scared. I was scared too...
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... but probably in a different way
that other people were.
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As long as I was in that plane...
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...and they were gonna
get me there safely...
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...that's all that I worried about.
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At the time,
I had no feeling whatsoever.
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My feeling was for my brother,
who was killed.
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That infuriated me.
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And that's why, when I jumped
on D-Day, I swore....
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I swore I would kill every damn
German I came across.
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That's why they nicknamed me
Wild Bill. I killed a lot on D-Day.
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The sky was clear,
coming across the channel.
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Since I was jump master, I could lie
at the plane door with my head out...
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...in the slipstream, looking down.
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And I saw the thousands
of craft ships...
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...everything from LCls
to battleships...
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...down there in the channel.
I think that's when I first realized...
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... how large the invasion was.
T remendously large, the invasion was.
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We were out for 1 1 /2 hours before we--
We went down the south end of England...
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...and then across
the jersey islands...
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...and then across
the Cherbourg peninsula.
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And that's when
the fireworks started.
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Flak was terrible.
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Anti-aircraft was absolutely horrendous.
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It was like...
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...a july the 4th celebration,
10 times over.
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Then it would hit
under the wings and body...
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...and you could hear it go...Iike
gravel hitting a car fender.
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You could see
tracers all over.
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Everybody wanted
to get out of the plane fast.
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Whether it was high, low,
no matter where we were. Out!
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They were getting shot up.
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Finally, the pilots--
I happened to read their minds--
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" Okay, we got so much gas...
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...and we're gonna have
to get back to England.
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What do we do with all
the guys back here?
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Give them the green light. Get out."
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We're ready to jump.
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There was a relief when the green
light came on, and we said, "Let's go."
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Well, I jumped up on a run...
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...and hit the static line
with the hook and out the door...
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...and got such an opening shock...
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...from the prop blast,
that it broke this chin strap...
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...that we had on this helmet liner.
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And that's when I lost this famous
leg bag that everybody talks about...
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...just from the shock of the opening.
It just flew right off my foot.
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The British call them leg bags.
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They gotta be this big, and you
stuff everything you can into them.
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They're supposed to weigh 1 5 pounds.
By the time you're done, they're 60.
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Everyone that jumped
with a leg bag, they lost it.
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Most of the paratroopers
that landed didn't have nothing.
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I was one of them.
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It tore right off...
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... because we jumped at speeds
of 1 50 miles an hour...
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... maybe even higher. I don't know.
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And lower than we should've been.
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That wasn't bad either,
because you got to the ground quicker.
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When we went out the door, I looked
to see if my chute was open...
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...and I saw tracer bullets
burning holes in the chute.
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And they told us all you'll have to do
is shuffle up to the door...
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...throw that leg out, prop blast
will hit it, and you're gone.
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Well, they were right.
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only I was going out,
and my leg was in...
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...and I was hanging upside down...
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...Iooking at everything down
with my leg in the plane.
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All this happened in a split second.
Paul rolled me out.
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Paul Rogers rolled me out.
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I just helped him out. I just picked
him up and threw him out, I guess.
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I had to get out.
We wanted to get out so bad.
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And I come down
right behind city hall...
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...watched them shoot at me all the way,
which wasn't very long.
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I could see the tracers. They were
kind of spraying around in the air.
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Whoever the machine gunner was down
there that was concentrating on me...
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...apparently was
not a very good shot.
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They were firing in every direction.
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You don't know which way to go.
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The next thing is that you are
getting close to landing...
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...and you're saying, "There's
some trees. There's a road.
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Try and slip to avoid the trees. Try
and slip to avoid landing on the road."
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I slipped and my chute fell across
power lines, and I hit a fence...
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...and fell into a farmer's garden.
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I'll never forget that fence.
It had glass on top of it...
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...and cut me up,
but that didn't bother me.
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I just-- I was down,
and I got down with my gun.
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I hit the ground in a field, and we
were way-- I got looking at my map...
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...and we weren't close to where
we were supposed to be.
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We was plumb off our maps
that they'd given us.
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So we had to make our way back.
we knew that the beach...
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...was to the east. We headed that way
to find out where the outfit was.
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My friend from Erie
was in another plane.
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when I hit the ground, I hit about
2 feet away from him.
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And him and I start walking around
looking for more of our troops.
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And we were running into Germans
everywhere, but we had to hide.
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You know, because if we didn't,
we were dead meat.
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And I laid in a tree.
I had my trench knife.
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And I reached up...
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...and grabbed hold-- It was a big
trunk, the tree, and I swung into it.
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I cut those risers with,
I think, one swipe.
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And I come down that
tree like a monkey.
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And then there I was
with a trench knife and a canteen...
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...and about six candy bars
in my pocket...
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... ready to fight
the German army, you know.
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So there's four guys
that were with me on D-Day...
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...who didn't have nothing
but a jump knife when they landed.
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So we had to hope, scrounge.
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As it worked out for all of us...
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...Iater on, we'd run across somebody
who had been killed...
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...and you'd take his weapon.
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And that's how you get
a weapon for D-Day.
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Rather haphazard.
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we were scattered
all over the peninsula...
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...so it was quite
a confused situation...
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... but we were better prepared
than the Germans were.
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The Germans didn't know
where we were.
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Whereas on the beach,
those people coming in on boats...
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...those Germans had guns
aimed at them, waiting on them.
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They had it tough.
I admire every one of them.
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These guns were pointed
and firing right down on the beach.
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People on the landing craft were coming
onto the beach and were being fired at.
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This battery of 105s was placed
precisely where it should be...
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...to protect any troops
coming up that causeway.
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As you sit back years later,
you think:
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"This was laid out
exactly right, tactically."
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we thought we knew
every foxhole in Normandy.
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We knew where everything was.
We knew it cold.
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But on this one, the Germans
had moved in there...
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...and camouflaged it so well,
we didn't know it was there.
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E Company was the assault company
of the battalion.
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we were trained from special assaults
and whatnot, special assignments.
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They weren't aware of what we had. They
didn't realize we only had 1 2 people.
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We worked our way down
through the farm area...
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...to a hedgerow. Lt. Winters
had us set up a firing position.
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And I went up
to scout it for myself...
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...crawled out along this hedgerow...
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...to get a little closer, to look it
over, and I felt I could see a trench.
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And I thought I knew
where our machine gun was.
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Winters...
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...was an exceptional leader.
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And he was able to size up,
all through the war...
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...size up combat situations
and decide quickly...
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...and correctly the best way to take
care of whatever the problem was.
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I divided the group into two units.
Lt. Compton was with me.
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I gave him half the men,
and I took half.
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I gave instructions, "I want
Compton, Malarkey...
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...and wynn to crawl up there
and hand-grenade that machine gun.
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Crawl through the grass,
and as you throw your grenades...
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... I'll charge up
with the rest of the guys."
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I had the two machine guns set up...
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...to give him covering fire
while he crawled up there.
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I get out to this hedgerow...
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...and I peek-- I look out,
and I peek through the bushes...
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...and I see a couple of Germans
over there, about 30, 50 yards away...
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...stoking this gun and firing it.
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I pull out a grenade
and pull the pin...
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...and I threw it as high
and as far as I could throw it...
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...in their general direction.
It had enough hang time on it...
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...that by the time it got to them,
it went off in the air.
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I jumped up with other guys,
and we charged...
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...so that we all jumped into
the first position together.
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They had trenches cut in where
they worked, the Germans did.
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They jumped down
in them trenches...
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...and they worked them Germans
like a ghost assault.
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Three Germans broke off
from this position...
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...to run across the field,
which was the wrong thing to do...
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...from their viewpoint.
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We cut them down.
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I was in a trench, and I looked,
and I saw an arm.
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I didn't even see-- The man
was in a camouflage tent...
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...and I didn't see him. Then I saw
an arm stuck out of that tent...
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...and one of those
potato-masher grenades...
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...you know, with a stick
come out of there.
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I said,
"He's gonna miss me."
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It fell right down
in that trench with me.
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I was trying to scuttle my way
out of the way, and it went off...
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...and I felt like it blew my butt
over my head, and it pretty near did.
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He's behind the enemy lines on D-Day.
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Does he holler, "Help"?
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No.
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He hollers, "l'm sorry, lieutenant.
I'm sorry. I goofed."
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I felt like I kind of let him down,
but that's neither here nor there.
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My God.
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It's beautiful when you
think of a guy who's...
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...so dedicated to his company,
to his buddies...
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...that he apologizes for getting hit,
but that's the kind of guy he was.
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That's the kind each one of them was.
They were all the same.
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I look upon them,
each man, with great respect.
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Respect I can't describe.
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Each one of them proved himself...
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Each one of them proved himself...
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...that he...
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...could do the job.
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We've been through Normandy, through
battle. Maybe if I had been harder...
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...if I had done a little bit better job,
more men would've gone home.
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I never thought
I'd get through D-Day...
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...Iet alone the next phase. I thought
I was gonna get killed instantly.
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The chances of survival is very slim.
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There's the parachute.
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I got that done
in Edinburgh, Scotland, 1944.
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Me and johnny Martin.
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Drunk as a skunk.
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Guarnere and I decided
we'd go to Scotland and get a tattoo.
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We didn't figure
we had a chance to come home.
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But....
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Yep.
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We thought, "Well, hell...
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...the war is just starting, and Christ,
we're 50% gone now.
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So it's a long haul."
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The 101st came back from Normandy
after about 33 days...
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...and we were replacements
for those who were killed...
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...or wounded in Normandy.
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There were young kids that came in...
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...and for some reason,
I don't know why...
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...they were the first ones killed.
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And I think maybe
they were trying...
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...to impress the older guys,
maybe people like me or Shifty.
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We were in awe of them. They had
infantry badges on their uniform.
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They had a star on their
Jump wings. They....
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They were our heroes.
That's how we looked at them.
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I don't know why, but I got
right there to where...
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...I didn't want to be friendly
with replacements coming in...
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...because, God, I didn't like
seeing them get killed.
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It just tore me up, and....
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I don't know why, but they
were the first ones killed.
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My 10-man squad that I was in,
eight were replacements.
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The squad leader and
the assistant squad leader...
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...Sgt. Muck and Cpl. Penkala
had been to Normandy. we hadn't.
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The eight of us hadn't
been anywhere but Aldbourne.
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The training got really tough
between there and the Holland jump.
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Training, training, training.
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We had missions scratched.
We were to jump on...
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...a French city of T ouraine.
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And it got to the sand-table part...
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...where we gathered round
to see who was gonna do what...
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...and Patton's troops overran
the drop zone, so that was called off.
-
we were wondering if we'd ever get to
go, and then it got to be September.
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It was a Sunday afternoon,
noontime, 70 degrees.
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The drop was perfect.
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Everybody was dropping
on the same field.
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Daytime drops are a lot easier.
You can prepare for the landing.
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I saw a plowed field,
and I slipped right over it.
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I believe I almost landed standing up,
you know, soft. A great jump.
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The most dangerous part about it
was that people were...
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...Iosing helmets and equipment, and
all this equipment's raining down...
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...and if you got hit with this,
you're gonna be killed...
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...or wounded before you
got off the drop zone.
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Everybody got together.
We all assembled very fast.
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We moved out towards
the Wilhelmina Canal.
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our mission was, first, to take
a bridge over the wilhelmina Canal.
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It took us hours to get there.
-
And taking hours to get there,
the few German troops...
-
...that were securing this bridge
had plenty of time...
-
...to set their charges
to blow the thing up.
-
And just as we got to it,
I was maybe 1 50 yards away...
-
...it blew up in our faces.
-
Rocks and timbers were flying
and falling all around you...
-
...and you can't help but think,
"My God, what a way to die in combat...
-
...to be killed with a flying timber."
-
We were that close.
-
It delayed us until morning.
We wanted to get across that night...
-
... but it took us till
the next morning to get across.
-
But once we got in, the Dutch--
-
It was just marvelous, their reaction.
-
They loved Americans, and still do...
-
...for coming in there
and pushing the Germans out.
-
They called us "angels
from the sky, " which we were.
-
I mean, you're under German
occupation for four years, right?
-
It's horrible, and you see
paratroopers come out of the sky.
-
Who were they? They were the angels.
They loved you.
-
Their welcome was unbelievable.
-
They couldn't restrain
how happy they were to see you.
-
It was hard to get
down the streets...
-
... because the people
were swarming over us...
-
...trying to congratulate us
for being there.
-
They hugged you and kissed you,
and we didn't mind.
-
Naturally, we was young,
We didn't mind at all.
-
And they were really proud
to see us in there...
-
...to the point where it
was dangerous for us...
-
...trying to clean out the town
because snipers did damage...
-
...in a situation like that.
-
We had a lot of fighting
because we're on the Rhine River...
-
...and Germany is across the river.
-
They're fighting like heck
to keep us out of Germany.
-
It's called "The lsland." We called it
The lsland, and we set up...
-
...positions there.
-
We had some substantial battles there.
-
They could observe any movement
we made during the daytime...
-
...and at their will...
-
...they could just shell us. Mortar--
Put mortar fire on us...
-
...when they had
a target of opportunity.
-
I heard something coming down.
-
I knew what it was...
-
...a mortar shell, and I threw
my arm up, like that...and went down.
-
It lit within 3 feet of me, 4.
-
But when it blows,
it goes up like that:
-
It went through my arm and hit me in
the head. I was bleeding pretty good.
-
Well, I was picked to go up on a dike.
-
So, of course, when you get
to the top, you don't expose yourself.
-
I took my rifle
and put my helmet on it...
-
...and put it over, even with
the road, on a dike.
-
No action, so I brought it back down,
put the helmet on...
-
...and I sort of peeked over.
-
when I peeked over, I saw a hand with
a potato masher, and he threw it at me.
-
I ducked. It hit my helmet
and bounced off.
-
When that thing bounced off my helmet,
I hollered to the guys below:
-
" Live grenade."
-
If Lesniewski hadn't
hollered, "Grenade"...
-
...and I had enough sense to know
that that's that grenade...
-
...that hit my rifle and is right
in front of my face, practically...
-
... I'd have either
had my head blown off...
-
...or I'd have definitely been blinded.
There's no question about that...
-
... because I just got turned,
just part way...
-
...and it exploded, and it
caught me in the face, neck...
-
...Ieft arm, under the arm,
in the shoulder.
-
I hollered for them to take off.
I said, "Get the hell back."
-
I had eight grenades,
so I had taken them off...
-
... pulled the pins
and threw them over.
-
And while the grenades were rolling
down or landing wherever they were...
-
...they were hitting
some of the rauts...
-
... because I could hear
screaming, crying.
-
I think I threw eight grenades
in about four seconds.
-
And then I took off running.
-
So the doctor that counted
the holes in me down at Nijmegen....
-
Yeah, NiJmegen.
-
The first doctor that
really counted the holes...
-
...said there was 32.
-
That was our first experience
with artillery in large numbers.
-
I can remember sitting there a couple
of nights listening to artillery land.
-
And the 88 was the fiercest
cannon that the Germans had.
-
It was the way they used it,
an all-purpose gun.
-
It could shoot anti-aircraft tanks,
anti-personnel, airburst.
-
That was the bad ones,
when shells went up.
-
I saw a huge mushroom cloud...
-
...from the shell...
-
...and joe T oye stepped out of it.
-
I run up. I remember that
like it was yesterday.
-
I run up, and I grabbed him.
He said, "Don't touch me."
-
I said, "What's the matter?" He said,
" l'm hit all over." He said, " l'm bad."
-
I said, " Okay."
I said, " l'm gonna go see jim."
-
He said, as bad as he was hurting,
Joe T oye, he said:
-
" Heffron, I already
checked him. He's gone."
-
Jim Campbell might be alive today
if he hadn't said to me:
-
"Heffron, you stay here with your gun.
-
I'm going up."
-
And I never, never, never--
I sleep on it, I eat on it--
-
I never, never forgot that.
-
And anybody that went through it...
-
...will tell you the same thing.
They can't--
-
It's just...
-
...so bad all your life, you gotta
remember what one guy did...
-
...because he thought it was his
Job to do, and he took a shot for you.
-
The exhaustion on these men,
the physical exhaustion...
-
...affects their endurance
to be able to cope.
-
You don't realize it at the time
you come off the line...
-
...from living in the mud
and being absolutely miserable...
-
...for 70 days straight.
-
You didn't realize
that you'd only be off the line...
-
...for a few days, and you're
gonna be facing Bastogne.
-
This is the last desperate
action of the Germans...
-
...to turn the tide of this whole war.
-
What it is, it is Bastogne. It is--
-
-This is Bo jack's woods, right?
-lt is the woods.
-
Sure looks different now.
There ain't no snow.
-
These trees might've been replanted.
-
I think if the trees look
like they did in '44 or '45...
-
...we could get a better idea.
-
-That's it.
-Yeah.
-
That's the town of Foy.
-
oh, this is definitely the area.
This is definitely.
-
There's the town of Foy, after the empty
field, where those cattle are grazing.
-
About half a mile away.
-
Yeah, we had an outpost set up
looking right into the town of Foy.
-
They had to watch everything
because we'd come in here and sleep.
-
we had our foxholes right over here,
and the other area and the other.
-
wherever we had to move out
and dig in again...
-
... because the Krauts had artillery.
-
Most intense I ever
went through here, shelling.
-
Most intense in the world. Couldn't
believe it. You had to be here.
-
You just dove in the hole
and prayed, and that's it.
-
If it comes in,
you ain't gonna know it.
-
we lost Muck and Penkala over on this
side. They were killed instantly.
-
The shell went down,
direct hit right in the hole.
-
-Made mush out of them.
-Luz come over and hollered:
-
"l can't see nothing of them,
nothing there."
-
They were all gone,
just disintegrated.
-
Unmerciful shelling, really.
-
Everything out here was shredded.
Yeah, shredded by it.
-
I tell you, it's an odd feeling.
-
T o me, it brings a lot of memories,
memories of the men, the times...
-
...good and bad, a lot of memories.
-
It was the most miserable place
I've ever been in my life, even today.
-
on a real cold night,
we go to bed...
-
...and my wife will tell you,
I'll say, " l'm glad I'm not in Bastogne."
-
The Germans wanted Bastogne
because of the road network.
-
That's why it was such an obJective.
-
So that's where we had
to hold, which we did.
-
31 8 trucks come in around
noontime, and by that evening...
-
...everybody was loaded
and moving out.
-
We were short of equipment.
-
we didn't have enough ammunition
or enough warm clothes.
-
But we had confidence that our...
-
...higher military authorities would get
to us whatever we needed.
-
When we got up there, we didn't know
what we were getting into.
-
There was very little information...
-
...only that the Germans had
broken through.
-
We went down, loaded on the trucks.
Another truck came by with weapons...
-
...and pitched weapons. You catch one,
that's what you got until Bastogne.
-
As it worked out,
there was some men who actually...
-
...got on the trucks and left
for Bastogne that didn't have a rifle.
-
when we got there, we saw men
singly and in twos and threes...
-
...working their way back,
some of them without weapons...
-
...without equipment.
-
Some of them were terrified.
-
They were beat to a nub.
Every one of them were saying:
-
"They're gonna kill everybody."
-
They couldn't believe, when they
saw us up there, that we intended...
-
...to set up lines
and stop the Germans.
-
They said they couldn't be stopped.
-
We went in and started taking up
their weapons and ammunition.
-
Asking the retreating guys, "You got
any extra ammunition or grenades?"
-
You could hear the firing going
on up ahead, and we're marching...
-
...to it with little ammunition.
-
We marched through the night, went
to the front of Bastogne and dug in.
-
And then it snowed.
-
Snow, cold up to your rump.
-
We didn't have
no winter clothing or nothing.
-
A third of the doggone
casualties was either...
-
...frostbite or trench foot,
whatever you want to call it.
-
Bad move. A lot of snow...
-
...a lot of everything
you didn't like.
-
It was a cold place.
-
At this particular time,
we was on top of kind of a hill...
-
...and the top of the hill
had pine trees.
-
We set up our positions around
the fringe of the woods.
-
In Belgium, trees are planted.
They don't grow like in Maine.
-
There are rows of trees.
-
You look down a row
and can see half a mile.
-
on top of this hill,
there was a ridge with a tree line.
-
We were dug in there.
-
The Germans knew right where we were,
and they really gave us a shellacking.
-
T o an infantryman...
-
...in wartime, the mother earth
is your best friend.
-
You could always dig a hole and get
out of sight, you know.
-
We dug plenty of those.
-
You get through
hard ground quickly...
-
...when someone's shooting,
and shells are falling.
-
You can make fast work of it.
We just have to dig that hole.
-
we say we became experts
on foreign European soil.
-
we dug in, and two people
could dig better than one.
-
In ground that's frozen, it takes
a while. You just chip it out.
-
By the time you finish, they
whistle to you, "We're moving out."
-
And you go someplace else
and dig another one.
-
You must understand,
the Germans were--
-
We were surrounded. The Germans
were maybe 100 yards away from us.
-
No matter where you looked in a circle,
you could see artillery flashes.
-
So we knew from that
that we were surrounded.
-
But we went through a couple
of shellings at Bastogne...
-
...that were earthshaking.
-
If you lived through them, you remember
them for the rest of your life.
-
I'm not sure you're the same
for the rest of your life...
-
...after you live through them.
You never forget them.
-
There was one moment
I remember. I'll never forget it.
-
one guy got hit in the arm
with shrapnel...
-
...took his arm off above the elbow.
-
They were taking him out, he said,
"Get my watch off my arm."
-
Before they took him out.
-
That always stayed with me.
-
I mean, calm voice and everything,
"Get my watch off my arm."
-
on the 3rd of january, we withdrew
back to our former positions...
-
...there, up the hill from Foy.
And when we got there...
-
...we could see that the Germans
had zeroed in artillery there.
-
T rees were knocked down.
There were holes in the ground.
-
It was right at dusk, and
the Germans had this....
-
This woods of ours
zeroed in completely.
-
And as we hit the woods,
this tremendous artillery attack came.
-
They knew where we were...
-
...and started shooting,
point-blank, 88s into our area.
-
They let us have it.
Everything, the kitchen sink...
-
... mortars, a rocket thing
with a screaming sound.
-
It scared the hell-- I was scared,
but I think I was petrified then.
-
I thought the whole world
was shooting at us at once.
-
I jumped into a foxhole somebody
had started and hadn't finished.
-
So I was crouched down in that foxhole,
but it wouldn't hold all of me.
-
From about my nose up
was above the ground.
-
I could see all these shells hitting.
-
Sgt. Guarnere
and joe T oye each lost a leg...
-
...in the same place, right there
on one hill. I remember.
-
just this certain instance.
-
Joe got caught not near his hole,
and Bill and I were ahead of him...
-
...and Bill had not been hit.
-
He came up out of his hole quickly.
We were still under heavy fire.
-
Joe said, "Jesus Christ...
-
...what do I have to do to die?"
-
He got hit real bad
in the back of his leg.
-
He's out hollering, "Medic,"
and he can't find a medic.
-
I went out to see what
I could do for him... I got it too.
-
I went over to Guarnere.
He was sitting on the ground.
-
His leg was badly mangled.
-
He was holding his leg,
and it was jerking like that:
-
He said, "Lip, they got
old Guarnere this time."
-
He had been hit before,
but they really got him there.
-
We got him out of there,
Babe Heffron and I and some others.
-
And they brought a jeep down,
and we put him on stretchers.
-
I better not talk about him.
-
I better not talk about him.
-
It was terrible.
-
We had lost some
very good men there.
-
T oye and Guarnere
had lost their legs there.
-
A number of other people were killed.
It was a difficult situation there.
-
When a man was wounded,
we felt glad for them...
-
...we felt happy for them.
-
He had a ticket to get out of there,
and maybe a ticket to go home.
-
And when we had a man
who was killed...
-
...we found that he was at peace.
-
And he looked so peaceful.
-
And we were glad that he found peace.
-
We had this...
-
...assistant squad leader,
name of Mellet.
-
He was from New York City.
-
And I overheard him
talking one time...
-
...this was in Bastogne,
he says:
-
" I been through...
-
... Normandy and went
through Holland...
-
...and to this day, I haven't
got one scratch."
-
He says, " l'm afraid when I do get it,
l'm really gonna get it."
-
And he was right.
-
In this little town of Foy,
he got killed.
-
I don't think he had any premonition
of it. He just wondered about it.
-
But I never did wonder.
-
Never give it much thought.
You just live from day to day.
-
Keep your fingers crossed,
and that was it.
-
I have the honor to present the supreme
commander, Gen, Eisenhower,
-
It is a great personal honor
for me to be here today,
-
To take part in a ceremony
that is unique in American history,
-
Never before has a full division,,,
-
,,,been cited by the War Department,,,
-
,,,in the name of the president
for gallantry in action,
-
This day marks the beginning
of a new tradition,,,
-
,,,in the American Army,
-
With that tradition will always
be associated the name,,,
-
,,, of the 101st Airborne Division
and of Bastogne,
-
Good luck and God be with each of you,
-
The Germans had started to surrender.
They still had their arms...
-
... but as you're going
down the autobahn...
-
...there was almost a solid line
of German troops coming north.
-
And our job is to get to the end
and get to the heart of it.
-
Berchtesgaden,
that's the end of the line.
-
It's the retreat that Hitler
had for himself.
-
And he built his Eagle's Nest...
-
... his penthouse on top of the Alp...
-
...to, l'm sure, relax
and confer with his staff...
-
... because they all followed
him to Berchtesgaden.
-
This was their final retreat.
-
of course, this is where
they had their loot as well.
-
This was the goal of the French,
who were on our right flank.
-
This was the goal of the British.
-
And this is the place to capture.
This is the one everybody wanted.
-
Hitler's Berchtesgaden retreat...
-
,,,burned by SS troops
in the war's last days,
-
The chalet from which he hoped
to rule the world now lies in ruins,
-
American Air Force 's pictures
show the gutted rooms,,,
-
,,,and the great window through which
the fuhrer gazed out on the Alps,
-
We took Berchtesgaden May the 5th,
no fighting, no shooting.
-
The only thing I seen
of Berchtesgaden was a couple...
-
...dead SS troopers laying
on the road as we were going up.
-
It was beautiful country. He knew how
to pick out a good spot for a house.
-
We took over his house...
-
...and liberated it, you might say.
-
There was, obviously,
loot of all kinds...
-
...that the men were looking for,
such as guns....
-
There was money
that they were looting.
-
I was a pack rat anyway.
I picked up a lot of German items...
-
...including some post cards
and envelopes addressed to Hitler.
-
Come to find out, that place
was full of big art...
-
... Rembrandt and all those people
hanging on the wall.
-
old soldiers like us, we don't recognize
a painting when we see it.
-
The 101st Airborne Division uncovers
Hermann Goering 's art collection...
-
,,,hidden in a subterranean chamber,
-
Twelve hundred artworks
worth millions are included,
-
The treasures will go back to rightful
owners in pillaged nations,
-
we found a warehouse full of gin
and vodka and stuff like that.
-
Wasn't much whiskey.
Those people don't like it.
-
And we took it all and set up a bar.
-
Had seven truckloads
of champagne and cognac...
-
...out of the wine cellars
out of the Eagle's Nest.
-
So we stayed
pretty well oiled for a while.
-
oh, that champagne was good.
oh, that was good.
-
I started drinking it one day, and l
drank until about midnight that night.
-
I went to the back and went to sleep.
I didn't wake up the next day.
-
I made a two-day thing out of it.
-
It didn't taste like it would hurt you.
It tasted like ginger ale.
-
That was the only time I remember,
when I was in service...
-
...that the company fell out
in their underwear.
-
We didn't even have
to dress, you know.
-
Everybody was looped, and so we fell
out in line formation in our underwear.
-
They're enJoying themselves.
They're at peace with the world.
-
They have a big, happy,
satisfied grin on their face.
-
It was a paradise for
a soldier to move into.
-
I had no problem with the looting,
because I came down through Germany.
-
And I had seen the Holocaust.
-
And I had seen what the Germans
had done to the jewish race.
-
And I had seen what they
had done to the displaced persons...
-
...and what they had done
in their occupation of France.
-
And what they had done to their
occupation in Holland, Belgium.
-
So that by taking over
their homes for a few nights...
-
...to bed down my men....
-
And if they picked up
a few trinkets, I had no problem.
-
Nobody has ever taken their time
to tell you how to handle a surrender.
-
We'll talk about it when we get there.
Here we are. How do you handle this?
-
The German army
was a well-disciplined army.
-
Those prisoners that
come down out of the Alps...
-
...they came down in formation.
They marched down.
-
They didn't drag down
or nothing like that.
-
They came down
as defeated soldiers.
-
We thought the Germans were
the evilest people in the world...
-
... but as the war went along, we found
out also, it wasn't the Germans...
-
... per se, it was the SS
and the special troops.
-
They were the ones
that could kill their own people...
-
...and the regular German
soldier was not that way.
-
one of those prisoners
handed me this little book...
-
...and it was a Catholic
prayer book for the Mass.
-
And I realized, " Hey, I haven't got
Nazis here. I've got some Catholics."
-
And I've got a Catholic good enough
to stick one of these in his pocket.
-
I've thought we might've been friends.
We might've had a lot in common.
-
We might've liked to fish. He might've
liked to hunt. You never know.
-
They did what they were supposed to,
and I did what I was supposed to.
-
But under different circumstances,
we might've been good friends.
-
I have a great deal of respect
for them as soldiers.
-
They were very good soldiers.
-
But they're still enemy...
-
...so they must
be controlled as prisoners.
-
when it reached the level
of surrender for company...
-
...and smaller units...
-
... I was assigned this maJor...
-
...and when he walked in...
-
...he presented me this pistol...
-
...and offered
his personal surrender...
-
...which, naturally,
I accepted gratefully.
-
So that would be the end
of the war for his men...
-
...and this is basically
the end of the war for my men.
-
And the significance is...
-
...it wasn't until later, after he gave
me his pistol and I had a chance...
-
...to look at it carefully,
that I realized this pistol...
-
... had never been fired.
-
There was no blood on it.
-
That's the way all wars should end...
-
...with an agreement
with no blood on it.
-
And I assure you, this pistol
has never, never been fired...
-
...since I've had it,
and it will not be fired.
-
we didn't come home
and flout ourselves.
-
I didn't come home and say
I was a war hero.
-
I came home and went back to it like
we did before war. just go to work...
-
...and live our life.
-
I think it was difficult
for most fellows coming back.
-
They didn't know what they were going
to do when they got out. I didn't.
-
Went to work for a coal company.
-
Did some bartendering
and ran a pool hall.
-
T ook up a course in
ornamental horticulture.
-
It didn't pay very much,
but I met a lot of nice people.
-
I went to work where
I was working before the war.
-
It was Caterpillar T ractor Company.
-
I became an industrial arts
and social studies teacher.
-
The spring of '46, I took
a boat to Ketchikan, Alaska.
-
I went to work for the government,
a letter carrier for 37 years.
-
I built homes. I was in construction.
I went into hard work, tedious work.
-
I'd done everything.
You name it, I done it.
-
I ended up working
on the waterfront.
-
I went with the ClA
in Washington.
-
Got my degree in 1948.
-
After the war, I taught
for almost 30 years.
-
Got a job working for
Nixon Nitration works.
-
I was making $75 a week.
-
We've never become
wealthy in life...
-
... but we have a lot of other wealth
that means more than that.
-
Everyone done well,
I done well too, thank God.
-
I want to welcome you...
-
...to our banquet tonight to celebrate
the ending of a fine reunion.
-
Thank you all for coming.
-
I want to extend the best wishes
to all the men from company E506.
-
I love you, God bless you all.
Thank you.
-
The purpose the reunions serve...
-
...is to give us a chance to get
together and talk to each other.
-
we relive some
of the Army experiences.
-
But we have great respect...
-
...and, you might say,
affection for each other.
-
The type of affection you get
when you've lived through...
-
... many dangerous
situations together...
-
...and have learned that
you can rely on each other.
-
If you see them today, that bond's
there. The bond you can't explain.
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Soon as you see them, you're thinking
of battles, thinking of it to yourself.
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The men stand out amongst each other.
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There's an intimacy develops and like
nothing that I've ever experienced...
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... not in college, not with
any other group of people.
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we're a strange bunch of dudes,
as far as I'm concerned.
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T o be this close after all these years,
that's the thing that gets me...
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...is we're like brothers.
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I'm back in my youth now.
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When I get to these guys,
I'm back when I went in the service.
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It's fantastic.
I'd like to make 20 more reunions.
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we had a lot of real
good times in there.
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Those are the times
you really remember, you know?
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A lot of those is what we kid each
other about at these reunions a lot.
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And then you had a lot of bad times.
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My family didn't know
anything about it...
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...and I just didn't tell them.
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I just, you know,
figured it was something...
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...that didn't need talking about.
It was done, over with.
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We didn't know Shifty the way
the men knew Shifty, you know.
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He started talking about it
just in the last five or six years.
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Last five, I'd say.
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It was like he--
That was another life, you know.
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He was another person, and we weren't
aware of the stuff he went through...
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...things he had seen.
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It didn't even dawn on me
that he had killed people.
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I really admire my dad, my daddy.
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He's a good guy.
He's a real strong guy.
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We travel a lot, and we've been
to France and to that cemetery.
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It's incredible. There's crosses
upon crosses lined up perfectly...
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...as far as the eye can see, and then
there's a cliff and the ocean.
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These weren't
just anonymous statistics.
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These were people I knew,
and I told my daughter, I said:
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"This guy here died at age 19 or 20."
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A whole life never lived.
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No family...
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... nothing.
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No children...
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... no opportunity to have satisfaction
in building a life, nothing.
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When I went there, I said,
" Dad, my gosh, you were so lucky."
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He looked at me and said,
"Yeah, l'm very lucky."
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And he started crying.
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These guys have been together
in the absolute base experiences...
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...of human existence.
They were there with each other...
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...thinking you're gonna die or seeing
people dying all around you.
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And there they went day after day...
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...and I admire that and held my father,
even on his tombstone...
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...as Sgt. Joe T Oye.
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506 PIR 101st Airborne Division.
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That's what he wanted on his
tombstone. It meant that much to him.
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How it happened that
those various individuals...
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...ended up in E Company,
I don't know.
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But as you know, every Army unit
thinks it's the best...
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...but we knew we were the best.
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I think about the guys
more than anything.
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I think about most
of them every day.
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It's something that's etched
in your memory, I guess.
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It'll never leave either.
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Am I proud of having served
in that outfit? You bet your life.
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I wore that eagle
on my right shoulder for 1 8 years.
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Probably the proudest thing
in my whole life...
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...was having been
in Easy Company 506.
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The heroes had crosses
over their heads...
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...the ones that are buried
in the cemeteries.
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Those are the true heroes, not us.
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We're just part of the works.
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And we thank God we got
back alive. That's all.
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How would you like to be a mother
or a father to a son never come back?
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The son and the mother and the father
are the heroes of world war ll...
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... not the guys that come home.
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Let me say this...
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... I believe there's very,
very few heroes...
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...that came back from the war.
They're still over there.
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Do you remember the letter
that Mike Ranney wrote me?
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Do you remember how he ended it?
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" I cherish the memories
of a question my grandson...
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...asked me the other day
when he said:
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'Grandpa, were you
a hero in the war? '
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Grandpa said, 'No...
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... but I served
in a company of heroes.'
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Joe T Oye.
oh, there was a big mick.
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And we used to have a few beers
at night, and I'd sing.
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Guarnere would
come over and sing.
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He'd say to Guarnere:
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"Guarnere, you're Italian,
you don't know this song."
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Guarnere could sing
it better than he did.
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"Bridget O'Flynn."
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How's it go?
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Now, that's the song T Oye liked,
and that's what we sang.
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You only needed a sisal of beer.
Two beers you were drunk...
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...because you were
in great physical condition.
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You were too piqued, you know...
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...and two beers you were as high
as Georgia pine, you know.