Equals | Mário D'Andrea | TEDxSãoPauloSalon
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0:07 - 0:11"A camera does not judge,
it simply photographs." -
0:12 - 0:14With this simple thought
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0:14 - 0:18my staff and I, at Dentsu Brasil,
the agency I own, -
0:18 - 0:22set up an exposition project
called "Exposição Iguais." -
0:23 - 0:27It only has one objective:
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0:27 - 0:30to celebrate the differences among people.
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0:30 - 0:35For this, we invited
20 totally different Brazilians, -
0:35 - 0:3920 people who'd never met
or seen each other, -
0:39 - 0:42of different colors,
from different ethnic groups, -
0:42 - 0:46creeds, and social classes.
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0:46 - 0:49We took them to a photographic studio
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0:49 - 0:54and we placed only one thing
between them: a photo camera. -
0:54 - 0:57Then, we asked them,
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0:57 - 1:02"Talk, get to know each other,
spend some hours together -
1:02 - 1:06and take pictures
of one another, just that." -
1:06 - 1:08We spent some days doing this.
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1:09 - 1:11A black woman, an albino woman.
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1:11 - 1:13A Jewish man, a Muslim woman.
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1:13 - 1:16A grandmother, and a punk stylist.
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1:16 - 1:18In short, several different types.
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1:18 - 1:21I confess that it was
a spectacular experience, -
1:21 - 1:23not only for them, but also for us,
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1:23 - 1:26and this experience,
which was almost a social experiment, -
1:27 - 1:30brought forth a series
of wonderful photos, -
1:30 - 1:32some can be seen here,
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1:32 - 1:35but more important
than the pictures themselves -
1:36 - 1:41were the 20 testimonies
that we were able to gather from them, -
1:41 - 1:42from these 20 Brazilians.
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1:43 - 1:49A small example of how the differences
among people should be valued -
1:49 - 1:51for the development of a society.
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1:51 - 1:56The TEDx staff asked me,
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1:56 - 1:58"Where did this idea come from?"
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1:58 - 2:00I'll have to go back in time
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2:00 - 2:03and tell you a little bit
of my personal history. -
2:03 - 2:06My parents are Italian.
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2:06 - 2:09Actually, I'm the first Brazilian
in the D'Andrea family. -
2:10 - 2:14My parents were engaged when they arrived
in Brazil, where they got married, -
2:14 - 2:18and I was obviously born
and raised in Mooca, São Paulo. -
2:18 - 2:20My haircut hasn't changed a bit, has it?
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2:20 - 2:22(Laughter)
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2:24 - 2:30The fact that I was born in this place
brought me some great opportunities. -
2:30 - 2:32They may seem simple,
but they were really great. -
2:33 - 2:35My childhood was very simple, of course.
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2:35 - 2:39I used to live in a street that was full
of workers' small houses. -
2:40 - 2:42We always lived close to each other,
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2:42 - 2:46just like every Italian
who goes to live in another country. -
2:46 - 2:50The official language at home was Italian,
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2:50 - 2:54the official food was also Italian -
no problem whatsoever with that. -
2:54 - 2:57But, when I was around four or five,
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2:57 - 3:01I started to play with the kids
who lived in other parts of the street. -
3:01 - 3:04Then I made my first great discovery.
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3:04 - 3:08One day I observed,
"Wow, not everybody is Italian!" -
3:09 - 3:10For me, that was way cool
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3:10 - 3:15because I started to learn some games
which were different from the ones I knew, -
3:15 - 3:17to eat different things...
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3:19 - 3:22One of the things I most liked
when I was a kid -
3:22 - 3:25was to go with my dad
to Bom Retiro, here in São Paulo. -
3:25 - 3:28It just meant work to my dad -
he used to visit his clients. -
3:28 - 3:29To me, it was pure fun.
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3:29 - 3:35I'd spend hours listening
to my dad chatting to his clients, -
3:35 - 3:37mainly the jokes between them.
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3:37 - 3:39Of course, all his clients were Jewish.
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3:40 - 3:44I'd spend hours listening,
and it's funny that, at the time, -
3:44 - 3:47there was a Lebanese family
living next to my house -
3:47 - 3:50and, through them, I learned
to love Arabian food. -
3:50 - 3:53As a matter of fact,
I'm crazy about it to this day. -
3:55 - 3:59I confess there was indeed a division
between the kids in my neighborhood, -
3:59 - 4:03but it was about one thing only:
those who were good or bad at soccer. -
4:03 - 4:06I'd always been bad at it,
but, stubbornly, -
4:06 - 4:09after learning so much with the other boys
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4:09 - 4:11I started to play reasonably well,
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4:11 - 4:16and began to participate in every
imaginable championship. -
4:16 - 4:21We'd go to places I had never been to
just to play some soccer. -
4:21 - 4:25Marquinhos was one of the guys
who most taught me about this sport. -
4:25 - 4:27He was older than me.
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4:27 - 4:31I was around 16, and he was 21, 22
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4:31 - 4:33and back then he gave me
all the tips I know to this day. -
4:33 - 4:35Even now I remember what he taught me
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4:35 - 4:38to play soccer decently.
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4:38 - 4:42Once, Marquinhos went
to the beach with his family -
4:42 - 4:44to spend the weekend,
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4:44 - 4:46and there at that beach, he drowned.
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4:47 - 4:48That was a shock for me.
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4:48 - 4:52I hadn't had contact
with death until then, -
4:52 - 4:56but the second shock
came at Marquinhos's funeral -
4:56 - 4:58because when I got there
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4:58 - 5:00I noticed I was one of the few
white people at his funeral. -
5:00 - 5:04He was biracial,
the son of a black father. -
5:04 - 5:09There, I began to notice
that this coexistence wasn't so simple. -
5:10 - 5:13Life kept teaching me more.
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5:14 - 5:19I got married at 23, had my first kid
at 24, the second at 29. -
5:19 - 5:22I got divorced, married again
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5:23 - 5:26and, at 40, I thought I knew everything.
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5:27 - 5:28But then I had a daughter.
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5:28 - 5:33For someone who had spent his life
with brothers, nephews, male cousins -
5:33 - 5:36and sons all my life,
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5:36 - 5:39in my early 40s
I had this girl before me, -
5:39 - 5:42and then I had to learn everything again.
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5:42 - 5:44I relearned how to dialog, to convince
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5:44 - 5:48and especially, just between us,
how to be convinced. -
5:48 - 5:49(Laughter)
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5:49 - 5:52I confess there were some moments
in the relationship with my daughter -
5:52 - 5:56I had the distinct feeling
of discovering parts of my brain -
5:56 - 5:58I didn't even know were there.
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5:58 - 5:59(Laughter)
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6:01 - 6:04When my daughter arrived,
I began to see some things -
6:04 - 6:07that brought some other kind of feeling.
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6:07 - 6:10They were basically two:
first fear, then anger. -
6:10 - 6:13I remember well when I felt
that fear for the first time. -
6:13 - 6:17It was when I saw this broadcast on TV
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6:17 - 6:20and which was all over
the media at the time. -
6:20 - 6:24Several years ago, a young man
walking down Paulista Avenue -
6:24 - 6:27was assaulted by a group of guys
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6:27 - 6:30who hit him in the face
with a fluorescent light bulb, -
6:30 - 6:31just because he was gay.
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6:31 - 6:35When I saw that video
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6:35 - 6:39I confess I was surprised
and instantly thought, -
6:39 - 6:40"How come?
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6:40 - 6:43Why does someone attack
another person like that -
6:43 - 6:46just because they're different?
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6:46 - 6:52What kind of morbid pleasure
leads someone to do such a thing?" -
6:52 - 6:54My mind wouldn't stop racing.
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6:54 - 6:57I thought, "In daylight
on Paulista Avenue? -
6:57 - 6:59My kids walk down that place every day.
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7:00 - 7:05What if it was some other kind
of prejudice, say, against bald people?" -
7:06 - 7:09I'm not sure you've noticed
but I haven't got that much hair. -
7:10 - 7:14"I'd be walking down Paulista Avenue
on that same day, at the same time, -
7:14 - 7:17and I'd probably
be assaulted by those guys -
7:17 - 7:20with a fluorescent light bulb to my face.
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7:20 - 7:23That's it. That's what we're left with."
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7:23 - 7:26And that started to make me angry,
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7:26 - 7:29mainly because every day
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7:29 - 7:33the media started to show
more and more examples, -
7:33 - 7:37more and more cases of intolerance,
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7:37 - 7:40of stupid prejudice,
of gratuitous violence, -
7:40 - 7:42of limitless sexism.
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7:43 - 7:46I felt so much anger when I saw that,
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7:46 - 7:49but then I came to my senses and thought,
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7:49 - 7:52"Anger is exactly the tool used
by these biased people. -
7:52 - 7:54It won't solve anything.
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7:55 - 7:57So I think it's time we did something
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7:57 - 7:59to guide the media in a different way,
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7:59 - 8:03to show some more encouraging news,
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8:03 - 8:06at least to fight the minority
that causes all this damage." -
8:06 - 8:10And then I had the idea
of gathering my staff -
8:10 - 8:14to create something that would simulate,
at least for a few hours, -
8:14 - 8:17the experience I'd had when I was a boy.
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8:21 - 8:23More than photos,
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8:24 - 8:25they're beautiful...
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8:25 - 8:28Remember, taken by 20 Brazilians...
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8:28 - 8:33There was no professional photographer,
no Photoshop, no tricks. -
8:33 - 8:37Besides the photos
the Brazilians took of each other, -
8:38 - 8:41this experiment, this exposition
gave us the chance -
8:41 - 8:45to collect 20 truly
remarkable testimonies. -
8:45 - 8:48Several of them contained painful stories,
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8:48 - 8:51but several others had stories of hope
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8:51 - 8:54and of good examples
of coexisting with differences. -
8:54 - 8:58For example, Leonor,
the friendliest grandmother, -
8:58 - 9:00who said in her testimony,
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9:00 - 9:07"Sonny, we're all born the same way
and we'll all die the same way. -
9:07 - 9:09People sometimes forget this."
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9:09 - 9:12Or the punk stylist
who did the photoshoot with her -
9:12 - 9:16- by the way, one of the most
fun sessions of all - -
9:16 - 9:19who said, "The subway may be crowded.
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9:19 - 9:22If there's an empty seat next to me,
nobody will sit there." -
9:24 - 9:25Divina Raio-Laser,
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9:25 - 9:29the exuberant and wonderful name
of the drag queen -
9:29 - 9:31who asks just for one thing
in her testimony, -
9:31 - 9:35"I exist. I am here. Respect me."
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9:35 - 9:39The one who did the photoshoot with her
was a pacific 58-year-old family man -
9:39 - 9:41whose name is Nino, a little Italian man.
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9:43 - 9:47He said, "If there were only
one type of human being, -
9:47 - 9:50we'd probably be extinct by now."
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9:52 - 9:56Isabela, who's a ballerina,
said something I found impressive, -
9:57 - 10:02"People mistake attitude
for personal characteristics. -
10:02 - 10:05Characteristics do not offend
or hurt anybody; -
10:05 - 10:07but attitudes do."
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10:07 - 10:11No doubt, from the 20 testimonies
that we collected, -
10:11 - 10:14the one that most impressed
not only me but the whole staff -
10:14 - 10:18was given by a Syrian woman
called Rasha, who's a Muslim -
10:18 - 10:20who fled from the war in her country
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10:20 - 10:23and has been in Brazil
for less than two years. -
10:23 - 10:25She speaks reasonable Portuguese
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10:25 - 10:30and said during her testimony,
"I had only seen Jewish people on TV." -
10:31 - 10:35Then I said, "Did I get that right?
Let me check that out. -
10:35 - 10:37You're saying that, until day,
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10:37 - 10:42you had never seen
a Jewish person in front of you?" -
10:42 - 10:46"Here with us was your first time,
in this photographic studio?" -
10:46 - 10:48She said, "Yes, today was the first time."
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10:48 - 10:52I couldn't resist asking her,
"How was that feeling?" -
10:52 - 10:53She looked at me
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10:53 - 10:56with a beautiful smile
and said, "Normal, right? -
10:56 - 10:59He has different clothes
and another religion -
10:59 - 11:00but he's a person like me."
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11:00 - 11:04I said, "You don't need to say any more.
That's all I need to hear from you." -
11:04 - 11:07This exposition was
in São Paulo for two weeks. -
11:08 - 11:11It had great media coverage,
which was exactly what we wanted, -
11:12 - 11:14and it's going round
some cities in our country. -
11:14 - 11:19Recently, it was in Curitiba
for three weeks. -
11:19 - 11:22Something happened in Curitiba
that touched me very personally. -
11:22 - 11:27Some schools took their students
to see the exposition, -
11:28 - 11:30and not only did they show it to them
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11:30 - 11:33but they also made the students
watch all the testimonies, -
11:34 - 11:38and later asked them to discuss
and do some related work in class -
11:38 - 11:42about the importance of diversity
in the construction of a society. -
11:43 - 11:45I confess that when I saw these photos,
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11:46 - 11:50I couldn't help remembering
a little Italian boy, long ago, -
11:51 - 11:55who lived and learned with kids
who were totally different from him. -
11:56 - 11:59This exposition has brought me
one great certainty: -
12:00 - 12:03the more we coexist with different people
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12:03 - 12:06the more we look similar as human beings.
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12:06 - 12:07Thank you very much.
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12:07 - 12:10(Applause) (Cheering)
- Title:
- Equals | Mário D'Andrea | TEDxSãoPauloSalon
- Description:
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Are really so different? Mário D'Andrea talks about the exposition called "Exposição Iguais."
Mário D'Andrea is an Advertising Agent for important international brands and an Advertising Executive at multinational agencies, as well as the President and CCO at Dentsu Brasil, the biggest advertising agency in Asia.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- Portuguese, Brazilian
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 12:15
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