Winning the battle against online hate speech in Myanmar | Min Thu Aung | TEDxUM1Yangon
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0:07 - 0:09OK, (Burmese) Hello.
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0:11 - 0:12My name is Min Thu Aung,
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0:12 - 0:15and I'm trying to find a solution
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0:15 - 0:19to solve the problem
of online hate speech in Myanmar. -
0:20 - 0:23So you might ask,
"Why is this so important?" -
0:23 - 0:26After all, hate speech
is nothing new, right? -
0:26 - 0:31Countries all over the world
have experienced hate speech in some way. -
0:32 - 0:37And as a country we have
a lot of problems to solve. -
0:37 - 0:39I'll give you one. Healthcare.
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0:39 - 0:41We need to improve our healthcare,
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0:41 - 0:44we need to improve our education
our roads, electricity maybe - -
0:45 - 0:46a lot of problems to solve.
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0:46 - 0:50Why hate speech? And why now?
Well, here's why. -
0:52 - 0:53As we know well,
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0:54 - 0:59back in August 2017, there
was the Rohingya crisis of course. -
0:59 - 1:01The UN fact-finding mission
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1:02 - 1:06concluded that online
hate speech on Facebook -
1:06 - 1:11was one of the main reasons
for this crisis. -
1:13 - 1:18This is hate speech
that divided communities -
1:18 - 1:20and caused a refugee crisis.
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1:21 - 1:23This is hate speech that -
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1:25 - 1:30really damaged our country's
international reputation, -
1:30 - 1:34and also reduced
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1:34 - 1:40the investment friendliness
of the country from a Western perspective. -
1:40 - 1:45It also is hate speech
that one day will affect all of us, -
1:46 - 1:49and, therefore, I believe
that it's an important problem to solve. -
1:50 - 1:51Here's another reason:
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1:51 - 1:54Just last month,
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1:55 - 2:00an LGBT librarian
at a private university in Yangon -
2:01 - 2:06was forced to confess his status
in a case of workplace harassment. -
2:06 - 2:12This harassment continued online
where he experienced cyberbullying -
2:13 - 2:18and also hate speech
because of his sexual orientation -
2:19 - 2:22and, tragically, he took his own life.
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2:22 - 2:24It's a big problem.
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2:24 - 2:26Another reason.
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2:26 - 2:29Another reason is that the elections
are coming up in 2020. -
2:30 - 2:34Political parties now are already
taking their positions, -
2:35 - 2:38and just like the US
election in 2016 also, -
2:38 - 2:41we expect that hate speech
could become, and fake news, -
2:41 - 2:44could be a feature
of the elections in 2020. -
2:44 - 2:47So that's why I'm convinced
that online hate speech, -
2:47 - 2:48in any democracy,
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2:48 - 2:53is an important issue to solve,
and Myanmar is no exception. -
2:53 - 2:54It applies to Myanmar as well.
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2:55 - 2:58I guess we first need
to look at what is hate speech? -
2:58 - 3:00What is the problem we're trying to solve?
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3:01 - 3:02What is free speech?
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3:02 - 3:06Where does free speech end,
and where does hate speech begin? -
3:06 - 3:09And for that, we can rely on -
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3:10 - 3:14international definitions
of hate speech and free speech. -
3:14 - 3:18So article 19 of the Universal
Declaration of Human Rights -
3:18 - 3:24and also the International Covenant
on Civil and Political Rights, ICCPR, -
3:24 - 3:28says that free speech is the right
to hold any opinion you want -
3:28 - 3:32and also to seek and receive
information in any way, right? -
3:32 - 3:35That's quite clear. You can say
anything you want. That's free speech. -
3:35 - 3:39But article 20 of the ICCPR
goes one step further. -
3:40 - 3:43It tells you where
your free speech could be limited. -
3:44 - 3:47If your free speech includes
any propaganda for war, -
3:48 - 3:51any advocacy of national, racial,
or religious hatred -
3:51 - 3:56which incites discrimination,
incites hostility or violence, -
3:56 - 3:59then your free speech can be restricted.
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4:00 - 4:01That's pretty clear.
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4:01 - 4:04But what does that mean
in normal language? That means ... -
4:04 - 4:07Well, in private
you can say anything you want, -
4:07 - 4:09even if it's very controversial,
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4:09 - 4:12but if you use that same speech in public
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4:12 - 4:17to incite any violence, any hostility
against specific groups of people, -
4:18 - 4:22then that can be considered hate speech,
and that can be offline or online. -
4:22 - 4:24It's the same.
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4:25 - 4:28Now, how big is the problem, right?
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4:29 - 4:32I think it's first important to note
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4:32 - 4:35that social media and the internet
is not all about hate speech, right? -
4:35 - 4:41If anything, the UN in 2016 passed
a resolution that says that the internet -
4:41 - 4:47is actually required or actually allows
the enjoyment of people's human rights. -
4:48 - 4:52It's very important, and some countries
have also even made internet access -
4:52 - 4:55a constitutional right, right?
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4:56 - 4:59So it's not the internet and social media.
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4:59 - 5:01It's not all about hate speech.
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5:02 - 5:07However, in 2014, when most
of the Myanmar population -
5:07 - 5:09got access to the internet,
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5:09 - 5:13they also got access to a tool
which allowed them -
5:13 - 5:17to access and express their views
to millions of people -
5:17 - 5:19for the first time in their lives.
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5:19 - 5:22Behind the veil of anonymity,
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5:23 - 5:28users on Facebook realized
that the speech they were using online -
5:28 - 5:29had consequences,
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5:29 - 5:32negative consequences for people offline.
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5:33 - 5:35And with 20 million users in Myanmar,
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5:35 - 5:38Facebook is effectively
the internet, right? -
5:38 - 5:42I think we all know that
in some way, shape, or form, -
5:42 - 5:46and therefore, for the rest of my talk
I'm going to focus on Facebook -
5:46 - 5:51as the main area where hate speech
exists online in Myanmar. -
5:51 - 5:56Now, concrete information or data
on hate speech is hard to find. -
5:57 - 6:01According to a survey done
by Myanmar mobile operator Telenor, -
6:02 - 6:04back in 2016,
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6:04 - 6:08the survey found that around 28%
of the people surveyed -
6:09 - 6:13knew someone that had been cyberbullied,
and hate speech could be a part of it. -
6:14 - 6:18But actually, anecdotally,
we know it's a big problem. -
6:18 - 6:23If you look at any Facebook page
of news outlets in the country, -
6:23 - 6:27you will find in the comments
following each article a lot of speech -
6:27 - 6:31which could be termed hate speech,
relating to religion, relating to race, -
6:32 - 6:33relating to other characteristics.
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6:34 - 6:36We also know, of course,
as I mentioned earlier, -
6:36 - 6:39that the UN fact-finding mission also said
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6:39 - 6:44that hate speech on Facebook
contributed to the Rohingya crisis. -
6:44 - 6:47So, in a nutshell,
it's a big problem, right? -
6:47 - 6:49But this is not a new problem.
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6:49 - 6:54Of course, countries in the West
have used social media and the internet -
6:54 - 6:56since the mid-nineties, right?
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6:56 - 6:58So how are they tackling the problem?
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6:59 - 7:04Well, I will show the way
that they are tackling this problem, -
7:04 - 7:09based on this framework
of the four solutions for hate speech. -
7:09 - 7:13First, let's look at
the state solution which is - -
7:15 - 7:20the governments regulate
and control speech online and offline. -
7:20 - 7:23One example of this
is actually in Germany. -
7:23 - 7:27They passed an act which
has been called the "Facebook Act," -
7:27 - 7:32which requires Facebook
to remove any law-breaking content -
7:32 - 7:35within 24 hours of been told.
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7:35 - 7:36If they don't do this,
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7:36 - 7:39then they could be fined
up to 50 million euros. -
7:40 - 7:44And just in July this year,
Facebook was fined 2 million euros -
7:44 - 7:47for breaking some part of this law.
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7:47 - 7:53So this law is actually been described
as one of the most severe ways -
7:53 - 7:56that the government
and regulators around the world -
7:56 - 7:58have limited hate speech online.
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7:59 - 8:02And I know that France is also looking
at a similar law as well. -
8:03 - 8:06So civil societies, the NGOs
and rights groups in Germany -
8:07 - 8:09have actually criticized this law,
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8:09 - 8:14saying that it could actually
reduce free speech, -
8:14 - 8:16it could actually lead to censorship.
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8:16 - 8:18Why is that?
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8:18 - 8:21Well, Facebook can be fined
if there's any law-breaking content. -
8:21 - 8:27So Facebook could proactively
remove content that some people -
8:27 - 8:30might not even consider to be hate speech,
so that could lead to censorship. -
8:30 - 8:32Now, in a country like Germany,
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8:32 - 8:37which is a very advanced democracy,
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8:37 - 8:39if there's criticism
for this kind of a law, -
8:40 - 8:41in a newer democracy
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8:41 - 8:47where legislative, executive
and judicial capacity are still limited, -
8:47 - 8:49and freedom of the press
is still also limited, -
8:50 - 8:52this kind of a law is extremely risky.
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8:52 - 8:56But some countries
are looking at the solution. -
8:56 - 8:58Let's look at the social media solution.
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8:58 - 9:00And this is where platforms,
such as Facebook, -
9:01 - 9:03remove content proactively,
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9:03 - 9:06regardless of whether
there are laws or not. -
9:06 - 9:09Now, this solution is actually
quite active in a sense -
9:09 - 9:13that Facebook has a few thousand
content moderators around the world -
9:13 - 9:19that review content that has been flagged
by users as hate speech, -
9:19 - 9:22or as another kind
of non-compliant content. -
9:22 - 9:24Also in Myanmar,
I understand that Facebook -
9:24 - 9:28has a hundred or so content moderators
in Myanmar language, -
9:29 - 9:30and I also understand that Facebook
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9:30 - 9:35is in the longer term looking at using
artificial intelligence, or "AI," -
9:36 - 9:39to help detect and review hate speech.
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9:40 - 9:43This can be really fast and scalable,
but under three conditions. -
9:44 - 9:48Number one: that these content moderators
actually can distinguish -
9:48 - 9:51between free speech
and hate speech without bias. -
9:52 - 9:54In an unbiased fair way. Number one.
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9:54 - 9:59Number two: the way
that hate speech is expressed -
9:59 - 10:01from time to time actually changes, right?
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10:01 - 10:04The way it's expressed today
and expressed next week may be different. -
10:04 - 10:06So it's important that content moderators
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10:06 - 10:10actually keep up to date with the way
that hate speech is expressed online. -
10:10 - 10:12That's the second condition.
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10:12 - 10:15And the third one is that Facebook
is investing in AI. -
10:15 - 10:20Well, it's important that this AI
is actually trained well -
10:20 - 10:26by the decisions made by users
and also by content moderators, -
10:26 - 10:32so that the AI can make its own decisions
accurately at a later point in time. -
10:33 - 10:37Of course, this solution
can be quite expensive for Facebook. -
10:37 - 10:40Lots of content moderators,
lots of new technology, lots of AI - -
10:40 - 10:44but I don't think Facebook, frankly,
has a choice but to invest in this. -
10:44 - 10:46They need to invest in this,
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10:46 - 10:50so it's not seen as a place
for hate speech and fake news -
10:51 - 10:52online in the future.
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10:52 - 10:57So we may have heard
of the Cambridge Analytica scandal -
10:57 - 10:59on Facebook.
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10:59 - 11:02I believe that if this hate speech issue
is not solved on Facebook, -
11:02 - 11:06it could become
the next Cambridge Analytica, -
11:06 - 11:09which could potentially be detrimental
for Facebook if they don't invest. -
11:11 - 11:15Now, looking at a third way,
the self solution, -
11:15 - 11:19which is where each of us actually
individually take responsibility -
11:20 - 11:23for what we post, what we share,
what we like online. -
11:24 - 11:26And there are three ways this can happen.
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11:26 - 11:29Number one is through formal education.
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11:29 - 11:32So online curriculum,
online training, online safety -
11:32 - 11:34being part of the national curriculum.
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11:34 - 11:35That's the first way.
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11:35 - 11:37The second way is through
informal training. -
11:37 - 11:39So for people outside of school,
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11:39 - 11:43they can be trained
by mass awareness programs, -
11:43 - 11:47by government on TV,
on radio, in newspapers. -
11:47 - 11:48That's another way.
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11:48 - 11:52And the third way is that we could train
people on Facebook itself. -
11:52 - 11:56Now, I have to say that Myanmar
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11:56 - 11:58is actually making
some progress in this regard, -
11:59 - 12:03so the Myanmar mobile operator
Telenor, for example, -
12:03 - 12:06has actually trained 300,000
students on hate speech -
12:06 - 12:10and online safety in the last
two-and-a-half years, -
12:11 - 12:15and this has been done collaborating
with the Ministry of Education, -
12:15 - 12:18with civil society group MIDO
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12:18 - 12:21and with training provider KMD as well.
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12:22 - 12:24All four partnering together.
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12:25 - 12:32Of course, we also know that online safety
is in the national curriculum in the UK, -
12:32 - 12:35in Germany, in Singapore,
and Sweden for example. -
12:36 - 12:40So this is a solution that could work,
long-term is probably required, -
12:40 - 12:43but because it requires behavioral change,
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12:43 - 12:45we have to change the way
we think, the way we act. -
12:46 - 12:50That takes time, and therefore,
it cannot be acting alone. -
12:50 - 12:54And last but not least,
the civil society solution: -
12:54 - 12:59so this is where NGOs work together
to actually determine what hate speech is, -
12:59 - 13:03and in Myanmar, this has been quite
an important part of reducing hate speech. -
13:03 - 13:07So there have been a number
of campaigns done by civil society. -
13:07 - 13:12So the Panzagar campaign by MIDO,
for example, is one example. -
13:12 - 13:15The Myanmar Institute
for Peace and Security -
13:15 - 13:16has an online hate speech tracker,
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13:17 - 13:21and there's been a lot of media literacy
and fact-checking campaigns -
13:21 - 13:23organized by civil society as well.
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13:23 - 13:25Civil society are very active
and they will remain active -
13:25 - 13:27I believe going forward.
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13:27 - 13:28Oops!
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13:29 - 13:31So what's the answer for us in Myanmar?
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13:31 - 13:34How can we actually apply
the learning from around the world -
13:35 - 13:37and create our own solution?
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13:37 - 13:39Well, let's use the same framework again.
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13:39 - 13:42And as I mentioned, the state solution -
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13:42 - 13:44so having laws to regulate hate speech,
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13:45 - 13:47maybe it's a little early
for that in Myanmar. -
13:47 - 13:52But I do think though that Facebook
could play a much more prominent role. -
13:52 - 13:55They need to hire more content moderators
familiar with Myanmar language -
13:55 - 13:57and also even the ethnic languages.
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13:58 - 14:01The second thing is we need
better content moderators: -
14:01 - 14:03content moderators
that can keep up-to-date -
14:04 - 14:06with the way that hate speech
is expressed online. -
14:06 - 14:08Content moderators
that can distinguish clearly -
14:08 - 14:11between free speech and hate speech,
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14:11 - 14:16and content moderators whose decisions
are reviewed regularly, -
14:16 - 14:20and as used as a way to train future
content moderators as well. -
14:23 - 14:25I think that Facebook cannot act alone.
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14:25 - 14:28They need to partner
closely with civil society, -
14:28 - 14:32and civil society can help Facebook
spot new trends in hate speech -
14:32 - 14:36and also help train and support
the content moderators, -
14:36 - 14:38so that they work hand in hand.
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14:39 - 14:41So that's in the short term.
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14:41 - 14:44In the medium term,
I mentioned earlier that I believe AI -
14:44 - 14:45artificial intelligence,
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14:45 - 14:48is a very important part
in reducing hate speech. -
14:49 - 14:55So with more content moderators,
collaboration with civil society, -
14:55 - 14:58I believe that these -
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15:00 - 15:02decisions made by content moderators
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15:02 - 15:05should be used
to train the AI of Facebook, -
15:05 - 15:12such that posts can be flagged, reviewed,
and maybe even taken down one day, -
15:12 - 15:15consistently in line
with international standards -
15:15 - 15:16of freedom of expression,
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15:17 - 15:20so that we're not relying
on human moderators only. -
15:20 - 15:23Because human moderators to moderate -
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15:23 - 15:28well, 100 to even 500 content moderators
to moderate 20 million people's speech, -
15:28 - 15:29it's a bit difficult.
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15:29 - 15:31We need a technical solution as well.
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15:32 - 15:34In the long term though,
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15:34 - 15:37I think hate speech
can really only be reduced -
15:37 - 15:42if we change the way we think as a people.
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15:42 - 15:44And that can be done in two ways I think:
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15:44 - 15:47First, I think there should
be mandatory online safety training, -
15:47 - 15:49including on hate speech
on Facebook itself. -
15:50 - 15:55New users should be required
to actually go to an online safety course -
15:55 - 15:57before they use Facebook.
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15:57 - 15:59Existing users, like probably you and me,
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16:00 - 16:06should take annual recertification
in Facebook's Community Guidelines, -
16:07 - 16:09which include online safety
and hate speech. -
16:09 - 16:12And until we complete
that recertification, -
16:12 - 16:13the account should be locked.
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16:13 - 16:18We should be forced to go through
this training every year by Facebook, OK? -
16:19 - 16:21Second thing is I believe it's important
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16:21 - 16:25to have an online safety course
in our national curriculum. -
16:26 - 16:30With that, I'm pleased to announce
that on 12th of July, just last week, -
16:31 - 16:37Telenor Myanmar and international NGO
Plan International signed an agreement -
16:37 - 16:41to explore including online safety
in the national curriculum, -
16:41 - 16:43together with the Ministry of Education.
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16:43 - 16:45We're working on this.
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16:45 - 16:49And if it works well, we will be educating
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16:49 - 16:53millions of our children every year
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16:53 - 16:57on how to be responsible
digital citizens online, -
16:58 - 17:02avoiding hate speech, and using
social media in a positive way. -
17:05 - 17:06So I believe that -
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17:08 - 17:11platforms, Facebook
and its content moderators, -
17:11 - 17:14its AI, civil society, educators,
all working together -
17:15 - 17:18can significantly reduce hate speech,
but what about you? -
17:18 - 17:19What can you do?
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17:19 - 17:21How can you be a part of the solution?
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17:21 - 17:24Or have you been a victim
of hate speech yourself? -
17:24 - 17:29Well, here are four tips to reduce
hate speech and what you can do. -
17:30 - 17:31The first one's obvious, right?
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17:32 - 17:34Avoid hate speech yourself.
That's a given. -
17:36 - 17:39Secondly, don't share or like
any post or comments -
17:39 - 17:41that contain hate speech.
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17:42 - 17:45Sometimes hate speech
can appear as fake news, -
17:45 - 17:47as jokes on Facebook as well.
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17:47 - 17:53So be careful not to share, not to like,
and not to comment on these posts either. -
17:54 - 17:58You can also report any instance
of hate speech directly to Facebook, -
17:58 - 18:01so that their content moderators
can review and quickly take down -
18:01 - 18:04any hate speech quickly.
-
18:05 - 18:08And last but not least,
if you have been a victim yourself, -
18:08 - 18:11you're able to now report
to the cybercrime police in Naypyidaw. -
18:11 - 18:17They now have about 100 officers
that are looking at this issue. -
18:17 - 18:19Again, 100 officers for 20 million users.
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18:19 - 18:22It's still a bit small,
but it's a good start. -
18:22 - 18:25But you can also call on them,
or alternatively, -
18:25 - 18:28report the issue to your local
police station as well, -
18:28 - 18:30for assistance if you
are a victim of hate speech. -
18:31 - 18:33Now, I think for this solution,
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18:33 - 18:36for hate speech to be reduced
in Myanmar long-term, -
18:36 - 18:39we all need to be part of this solution,
and that starts now. -
18:39 - 18:40Thank you so much everyone.
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18:40 - 18:42(Applause)
- Title:
- Winning the battle against online hate speech in Myanmar | Min Thu Aung | TEDxUM1Yangon
- Description:
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We are now living in world of increasing connectivity. This connectivity brings opportunities as well as challenges. One of the overarching challenges is our safety during online activities. Nowadays, we are seeing increasing hate speech, fake news, and other harmful materials on the internet. In this talk, Min Thu Aung analyzes the issue of online safety in the context of Myanmar and explores the ways in which we can tackle the problem. Min Thu Aung leads the Business Sustainability and Special Projects team at Telenor in Myanmar. Since 2016, he has been leading a program that has educated over 300,000 youth in Myanmar in being responsible digital citizens on social media, with a focus on tackling the pervasive issue of hate speech. Prior to this, Min led a microfinance institution in Myanmar focusing on financial inclusion and was a management consultant in the UK before his return to Myanmar in 2013.
As a son of two expatriate Myanmar doctors, he was educated in the culturally diverse environments of Malaysia and the UK, where he personally witnessed how diversity can drive sustainable, socioeconomic growth and social harmony. He believes that empowering future generations of Myanmar’s youth to appreciate diversity as responsible digital citizens and to refrain from hate speech on Myanmar’s social media platforms will aid Myanmar in its ongoing reintegration into the global community following decades of isolation.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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